I wonder how she would have tumbled in '08 if she hadn't had so many ankle problems. Didn't she compete a 3.5 twist at one point? I heard she had her quad, and she WAS training a double layout in '06....
I don't think there would be a big difference. Her puberty is what really hindered her tumbling, and that would have came with or without the ankle injury.
She will never nor could ever compete a DLO due to her body style.
Honestly I doubt the tumbling would have changed much. One could argue the triple twist but why would she take that risk when she could do a 5/2 twist with less deduction.
Come 2008 I don't even know if she could do a triple.
@FlicTuckFull it's not puberty alone. If she wouldn't have sustained an ankle injury, it could be assumed that she would have kept training as an elite gymnast. This constant training keeps the body it a certain physical shape that does not allow for some of the growths that come with puberty. Anyway, what I mean to say is that she would not have been as tall and most likely have been able to continue her tumbling style.
True, her ankle injury affected her tumbling, but she wouldn't have been able to pull her 3.5 twist for example even if she hadnt sustained the injujry.
@FlicTuckFull Of course she could do triples. She's an elite gymnast, you don't just lose the ability to wack in an extra half twist to what she was used to in 2008.
Puberty, along with her ankle injury made back tumbling very difficult for her. She didn't do BHS once she had her injury, so she'd have to do her triple.
Could she chuck a triple? Yea, probably, but it would probably be horribly messy, she probably wouldn't complete it/she'd just fall on the landing.
Gymnasts lose skills all the time due to injuries or puberty.
@FlicTuckFull I know they do, look at Cheng fei a quater way through 2008, she put on a few pounds and filled out a little, but it didn't stop her from performing her renowned skills beautifully. However, I do understand where you're coming from with Nastia, her ankle probably was sensative with backward landings but I still believe if she would have tried a triple back in 2008, she would have got it round - And no, you don't lose the ability physically, but mentally.
What? You don't lose the ability physically, but mentally? That's saying that an elite gymnast who retired, lets say 8 years ago could come back and pull the hardest skill now that they could then?
No, it doesn't work that way. If anything it is the reverse - a gymnast's body can mentally remember how to perform the skill, but physically their body can't do it.
@FlicTuckFull Actually you're correct with your the point about the physical/mental side. However, I'm not saying a gymnast who has retired 10 years ago could do their hardest tumble now, a triple twist for Nastia isn't her hardest tumble, you ask her to do a hsp double front now and no she wouldn't be able to do it, but I'm not talking about her doing her hard skills now, but in 2008, and the fact that she would be able to triple twist then.
Perhaps. Who's to say? But seeing as she'd have to do it from a round-off alone, and the fact that the girl never TRULY completed it even in 2005 WITH a BHS, I think common sense is leading me towards my opinion.
@FlicTuckFull That's quite hilarious, you can blatanly see she completes the triple twist here, and in other routines in 2005. She could 3.5 twist so I don't know what you're taking. If she wouldn't have been credited with the value of her triple in this routine, the s.v would have gone from 9.900, to something lower.
Look at her feet - both are not pointing square to the corner she started in. Yes, the triple clearly would have counted, but she never truly completed it.
Actually any larger twisting that involved Nastia landing facing back to the corner she started in was always short. Her 2.5 here isn't fully completed either, one ankle is 90 degrees from the starting corner.
Look at Asac's triple. She lands with more of her ankles point square to the corner she began at.
@FlicTuckFull No, that is rubbish. Asac has a completely different body type to Nastia, more power - when she does a triple twist its huge, and high and rolls and is ofc completed, just because Nastia's isn't as high doesn't mean she doesn't complete it. When she lands she dances out of her tumbles - so after the triple she throws he arms up and her feet turn out, it's how she's been trained dance wise, so the point you'e trying to make about the triple and 2.5 twist is rubbish and untrue.
Body style means nothing. Alicia sets up and then pulls, where as Nastia pulls right off the floor.
Pause the second she hits the ground, especially on the front 2.5. Her feet are not completely square to the corner. And the "dancing out of it by turning her ankles" makes no logical sense. Dancing out of a tumble, I get, but why would someone land with their ankles turned to make it look dancier?
@FlicTuckFull Because that's how she's been trained balletically. And body types mean nothing? Are you kidding me? Look at Asacs legs compared to Nastia's, and her frame - she's more broad, Nastia is basically a twig here. I do admit, she does pull of the floor, but it doesn't mean that she does this '90 degree' thing with her feet when she lands, it's just rubbish.
Body type means nothing when it comes to basic technique such as setting and THEN twisting on a triple twist. It doesn't matter what your body type is, that is what you have to do.
You can SEE when she lands that she does it, so I mean, ignore it if you want but it's there, especially on her front 2.5.
Being trained in ballet doesn't change the technique you're suppose to use on tumbling so ...
@chocolatefan1711 Nah, she just had trouble with skills that landed backwards after her ankle injury. She mostly did forward landing skills from 2006-2008 (2 1/2 twist dismount on beam, 1 1/2 Yurchenko vault, double front on floor, double front half out dismount on uneven bars). Notice her third tumbling line on floor in Beijing usually had a struggle because of the backwards landing.
anyone think beijing was reminiscent of 2005 worlds? she hasent been that good and consistent in a competiton since this one...and her medaling on floor
font Hs double is her opening pass. sh won like 5 stinkin medals at this worlds. holoym cow. i cant belive she medaled on floor. now she cant because at worlds or olympics they wouldnt dare put her on floor shes not good on landings and steps out of bounds somtimes.
Yea, she got bronze because her ankle underwent surgery in 07' and new gymnasts came onto the international scene. A gymnast can easily be world champion one year and then not even medal the next.
i think she does very well, and if she wouldnt like it she wouldnt be that succesful!!! she lives in america, nobody can force her to do this. think about that.
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Yeah man. I bet she hates not being able to eat whatever kind of food she wants. I bet she also hates not having a social life, because she spends all of her time practicing in the gym. Yeah I bet, man.
I miss this Nastia I mean like she was sooo elegant back then I mean she still is but this was the golden age of Nastia!!
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CalebGete 6 months ago
I love how this routine is all about twisties. More elegant, impossible.
MadeleinePhillips666 7 months ago
If she had a 3 1/2 twist she wouldve beat chellsie...
gymnastagirl141009 7 months ago
soooo skinny!!
LMA629 7 months ago
Shes so graceful she is AWSOME
gymnaztix11 9 months ago
isnt she only like 16 in this video?
JustinBieberLuver687 10 months ago
most of her passes here are twists as in like 2.5 and everything
XxSportyMusicGirlxX 11 months ago
@XxSportyMusicGirlxX it's because of her build. slim bodies are very suitable for twisting.
LMA629 10 months ago
I always thought that leo looked like something a gay spiderman would wear
TheJohntrusk 1 year ago
really really good
msms68 1 year ago
I wonder how she would have tumbled in '08 if she hadn't had so many ankle problems. Didn't she compete a 3.5 twist at one point? I heard she had her quad, and she WAS training a double layout in '06....
kras118 1 year ago
@kras118
I don't think there would be a big difference. Her puberty is what really hindered her tumbling, and that would have came with or without the ankle injury.
She will never nor could ever compete a DLO due to her body style.
Honestly I doubt the tumbling would have changed much. One could argue the triple twist but why would she take that risk when she could do a 5/2 twist with less deduction.
Come 2008 I don't even know if she could do a triple.
FlicTuckFull 1 year ago
@FlicTuckFull it's not puberty alone. If she wouldn't have sustained an ankle injury, it could be assumed that she would have kept training as an elite gymnast. This constant training keeps the body it a certain physical shape that does not allow for some of the growths that come with puberty. Anyway, what I mean to say is that she would not have been as tall and most likely have been able to continue her tumbling style.
481095ymg2 6 months ago
@481095ymg2
True, her ankle injury affected her tumbling, but she wouldn't have been able to pull her 3.5 twist for example even if she hadnt sustained the injujry.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull I agree that it would be unlikely, but there is truly no way we can no.
481095ymg2 6 months ago
@481095ymg2 Puberty and common sense could help us though ...
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull gacoa hoa ahacac H geka
CalebGete 6 months ago
@CalebGete
yees
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@481095ymg2
Common sense.
FlicTuckFull 6 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Of course she could do triples. She's an elite gymnast, you don't just lose the ability to wack in an extra half twist to what she was used to in 2008.
willsbob123 5 months ago
@willsbob123
Yes, you do just lose the ability.
Puberty, along with her ankle injury made back tumbling very difficult for her. She didn't do BHS once she had her injury, so she'd have to do her triple.
Could she chuck a triple? Yea, probably, but it would probably be horribly messy, she probably wouldn't complete it/she'd just fall on the landing.
Gymnasts lose skills all the time due to injuries or puberty.
FlicTuckFull 5 months ago
@FlicTuckFull I know they do, look at Cheng fei a quater way through 2008, she put on a few pounds and filled out a little, but it didn't stop her from performing her renowned skills beautifully. However, I do understand where you're coming from with Nastia, her ankle probably was sensative with backward landings but I still believe if she would have tried a triple back in 2008, she would have got it round - And no, you don't lose the ability physically, but mentally.
willsbob123 5 months ago
@willsbob123
What? You don't lose the ability physically, but mentally? That's saying that an elite gymnast who retired, lets say 8 years ago could come back and pull the hardest skill now that they could then?
No, it doesn't work that way. If anything it is the reverse - a gymnast's body can mentally remember how to perform the skill, but physically their body can't do it.
FlicTuckFull 5 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Actually you're correct with your the point about the physical/mental side. However, I'm not saying a gymnast who has retired 10 years ago could do their hardest tumble now, a triple twist for Nastia isn't her hardest tumble, you ask her to do a hsp double front now and no she wouldn't be able to do it, but I'm not talking about her doing her hard skills now, but in 2008, and the fact that she would be able to triple twist then.
willsbob123 5 months ago
@willsbob123
Perhaps. Who's to say? But seeing as she'd have to do it from a round-off alone, and the fact that the girl never TRULY completed it even in 2005 WITH a BHS, I think common sense is leading me towards my opinion.
FlicTuckFull 5 months ago
@FlicTuckFull That's quite hilarious, you can blatanly see she completes the triple twist here, and in other routines in 2005. She could 3.5 twist so I don't know what you're taking. If she wouldn't have been credited with the value of her triple in this routine, the s.v would have gone from 9.900, to something lower.
willsbob123 5 months ago
@willsbob123
Look at her feet - both are not pointing square to the corner she started in. Yes, the triple clearly would have counted, but she never truly completed it.
Actually any larger twisting that involved Nastia landing facing back to the corner she started in was always short. Her 2.5 here isn't fully completed either, one ankle is 90 degrees from the starting corner.
Look at Asac's triple. She lands with more of her ankles point square to the corner she began at.
FlicTuckFull 5 months ago
@FlicTuckFull No, that is rubbish. Asac has a completely different body type to Nastia, more power - when she does a triple twist its huge, and high and rolls and is ofc completed, just because Nastia's isn't as high doesn't mean she doesn't complete it. When she lands she dances out of her tumbles - so after the triple she throws he arms up and her feet turn out, it's how she's been trained dance wise, so the point you'e trying to make about the triple and 2.5 twist is rubbish and untrue.
willsbob123 5 months ago
@willsbob123
Body style means nothing. Alicia sets up and then pulls, where as Nastia pulls right off the floor.
Pause the second she hits the ground, especially on the front 2.5. Her feet are not completely square to the corner. And the "dancing out of it by turning her ankles" makes no logical sense. Dancing out of a tumble, I get, but why would someone land with their ankles turned to make it look dancier?
FlicTuckFull 5 months ago
@FlicTuckFull Because that's how she's been trained balletically. And body types mean nothing? Are you kidding me? Look at Asacs legs compared to Nastia's, and her frame - she's more broad, Nastia is basically a twig here. I do admit, she does pull of the floor, but it doesn't mean that she does this '90 degree' thing with her feet when she lands, it's just rubbish.
willsbob123 5 months ago
@willsbob123
Body type means nothing when it comes to basic technique such as setting and THEN twisting on a triple twist. It doesn't matter what your body type is, that is what you have to do.
You can SEE when she lands that she does it, so I mean, ignore it if you want but it's there, especially on her front 2.5.
Being trained in ballet doesn't change the technique you're suppose to use on tumbling so ...
FlicTuckFull 5 months ago
shes so skinny!
gymnasticsloveer 1 year ago
she is hammered
iheartme37 1 year ago
i don't understand why she didn't do the triple twist in beijing!!!
she performed it so well!!!
did she get trouble with that skill????
chocolatefan1711 1 year ago
@chocolatefan1711 Nah, she just had trouble with skills that landed backwards after her ankle injury. She mostly did forward landing skills from 2006-2008 (2 1/2 twist dismount on beam, 1 1/2 Yurchenko vault, double front on floor, double front half out dismount on uneven bars). Notice her third tumbling line on floor in Beijing usually had a struggle because of the backwards landing.
markedexclusive 1 year ago
wow just wow. triple twist? do you have any idea how had that is let alone to land it...
Sail17 2 years ago
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lifeoftheparty21 2 years ago
A triple tuck?
xxd55 2 years ago
triple twist
lifeoftheparty21 2 years ago
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does anyone think nastia is a bi bigger??? i mean she defintly not fat but wayy bigger....
chiquitabanana776 2 years ago
well shes taller cuz shes 5' 3''
mangojuice411 2 years ago
It's all the muscle she's been training her whole life.
Gr33nkiwi 2 years ago
Wow, I love this routine the most. I think it's more elegant than her current floor routine now.
annaponork 2 years ago 19
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annaponork 2 years ago
shes the 2nd Svetlana Khorkina skpoakspoaksopkaps
joaopauloloures 2 years ago
She is an amazing gymnats and looks like my friend. Gymnastics rocks.
Jacoblovers118 2 years ago 2
Nastia is so so skinny!!!
parklanegang2 2 years ago
I am surprise she got the silver with 3 passes. Usually those who win medals at 2005 and beyond usually have four and maybe even 5 passes.
Summonearth 2 years ago
4-5 passes didn't become so necessary until 2006 with the new COP.
uwoeric 2 years ago
does she have a 10.0 start value? can't believe that she could got a 10.0 with 3 tumbling passes
sqekcx 2 years ago
dance elements...
and it was a 9.9 SV
OhEmGeeDoubleUTeeEff 2 years ago
If she would have performed her 3.5 twists it would be a s.v 10.000.
willsbob123 2 years ago
That or if she had done a triple turn like she did at the SUI vs USA meet earlier tha tyear.
uwoeric 2 years ago
Really, wow, thanks :D
willsbob123 2 years ago
does any one know where to get her floor music from?
yea she looks sooo skinnny
xxxRaNd0mxxx 2 years ago
I have this song on my channel!
ryzardini 2 years ago
I think her 08 music suits her better though, gives her more room to be graceful.
AmylMary 3 years ago 16
Totally agree.
willsbob123 2 years ago
what;s the name of this song???? can someone tell me asap...thanx!!!!!!!!!
Tiffanycat688 3 years ago
any double back^^
NewMinako 3 years ago
I wonder if she can do a double back
NewMinako 3 years ago
piked or laidout? i cant picture her doing a dbl pike but i think she could pull a dbl layout.
mistybabe5489 3 years ago 2
Yeah there is a training montage of her somewhere on youtube where she is working double layouts on floor!
Megzer1992 3 years ago
she can but she is much better at twisting and stuff so she does that. Her double front is good.
greenkiwi689 3 years ago 2
I am absolutely in love with this routine.
jenngsa 3 years ago
anyone think beijing was reminiscent of 2005 worlds? she hasent been that good and consistent in a competiton since this one...and her medaling on floor
go nastia 5 medals!!! =]
gymnastgirl6992 3 years ago
that's because she was injured for 2006 and 2007 worlds
2005 and 2008 were her best years because she was healthy and more prepared
alexgym09 3 years ago
lmao gymnasticsforever thanks for the info!:D
gymnastics222 3 years ago
Why doesnt she do any double somersaulting tumbling passes?
dcumr 3 years ago
b/c shes better at twisting. now she does a double front b/c of requirements in the new code
mistybabe5489 3 years ago
she does nowm she does a double front
crazy4gymnastics4224 3 years ago
but i've seen her doing a double layout at training. probably she'll get it.
pety95 3 years ago
that was only on a tumble track and on good ankles, I don't think she'll be doing those anymore
OhEmGeeDoubleUTeeEff 2 years ago
cause she doesnt needed here ...
oswaldmgr 3 years ago
to newdeal87:shut up get a life if u dont build a brige and get over it.hellooo
liukin95 3 years ago
does anyone know the song's name ?¿
oswaldmgr 3 years ago
The song is called "The second killed"
NastiaLiukinFan 3 years ago
her triple twist was brilliant here :)
xlozzehx 3 years ago 3
Agreed..sufficient height and speed
eastrun 3 years ago 2
she can do a quad.
happychukles 3 years ago 2
its insane
i've always wanted her music
i'm a level ten too
RavTav 4 years ago
yeah....i found a versoin of it!!! i am using it now!
crazy4gymnastics4224 4 years ago
do u still want her music? i have a copy!
krrustygym 4 years ago
me & nastia have like the exact same body except shes like 500 times better than me
im only a level 7 =[
omgitshallee 4 years ago
yeah same with me...except i'm a level 10.
crazy4gymnastics4224 4 years ago
i8 cant belive she mad event finals. this was her best world championships.
eMthegymnast 4 years ago
omg 0:41-0:48 AMAZING xD
violent0heart 4 years ago
Nastia Liukin is the most beautifull gymnast! <3
siljed30492 5 years ago
is twisting dismount the only one she is capable of?
nadiahharun 5 years ago
no, now she does a front handspring double front. its awesome. shes great.
gymfreak4ever 4 years ago
font Hs double is her opening pass. sh won like 5 stinkin medals at this worlds. holoym cow. i cant belive she medaled on floor. now she cant because at worlds or olympics they wouldnt dare put her on floor shes not good on landings and steps out of bounds somtimes.
eMthegymnast 4 years ago
Er well thats weird since she got bronze in the olympics on floor this year..=P
Megzer1992 3 years ago
Yea, she got bronze because her ankle underwent surgery in 07' and new gymnasts came onto the international scene. A gymnast can easily be world champion one year and then not even medal the next.
greenkiwi689 2 years ago 2
no...she can double front too.
crazy4gymnastics4224 4 years ago
Muito foda minha "irmã" hasudhasu zuera bem que eu queria dhasudhsauhasu xD
thiagow4ever 5 years ago
she came second
apavlova 5 years ago
did she come first
aussiechocy 5 years ago
I wish I had her legs... :(
alexmechanix 5 years ago
you're an idiot!! as a coach that is VERY offensive!!
makemeover27 5 years ago
Her Coach is her father!!
makemeover27 5 years ago
LOL!!! oops
hangman86 5 years ago
Nastia is amazing, of coarse gymnastics is hard work.. but it doesn't mean she hates life you, stupid idiot
CuteGymnast 5 years ago
"newdeal87
i bet she hates her life."
Nope.
Oh and her name is NASTIA.
andyl55 5 years ago
haha thx i just realized i spelled it wrong
danfraz09 5 years ago
@andyl55
het OFFICIAL name is Anastasia ;)
MrJST94 7 months ago
she is sooo skinny. long legs. i love her.
sgtpepper13 5 years ago
i think she does very well, and if she wouldnt like it she wouldnt be that succesful!!! she lives in america, nobody can force her to do this. think about that.
123sasa123 5 years ago
i agree!
gymrin 5 years ago
i bet she hates her life.
newdeal87 5 years ago
yeah, I bet, considering she's the most successful gymnast so far this quad. I bet she REALLY hates life. idiot.
saks07 5 years ago
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Yeah man. I bet she hates not being able to eat whatever kind of food she wants. I bet she also hates not having a social life, because she spends all of her time practicing in the gym. Yeah I bet, man.
newdeal87 5 years ago
if you watch any of the the STT Blueroom videos with her you can see that she loves sushi
gymnasticsforever95 3 years ago
On her myspace, her about me specifically says "I love my life. =]", and that's all it says. Enough said? I think so.
GymnasticsAddict 3 years ago 2
wow, she's so skinny!
phatkash86 5 years ago