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  • There is absolutely never any reason to touch a press when it is running. None. And I know of no press foreman or boss who would would ever say other wise.These machines have "safe" buttons on em. When you are doing some thing on a press,you hit the safe button. The safe button pops in and another button pops out. When you are ready to move the press,you hit the button that popped out to take off the "safe". You work a press with others.You may not hear or know when they hit the go button.

  • @Dickeymoe206 I have seen guys take a razor blade to scrape the socks ( part of the water system ) on an Urbanite press to get rid of scumming because ink was building up in it,while at full speed.Or take plates off,or put plates on while on a walk. One fella came close to getting snagged because the folder man went to take the press up because he thought every one was plated up.No safe on. I was never that stupid. In less the a fraction of a second,your new nick name can be Stubby.

  • The one rule that I used for myself,was one I made up. though some one out there may have done it before. I call it " the arms length" rule. Yeah,sounds silly I know. But it has served me well. Basically what it means is,that when ever possible while working on a press,you keep it at arms length.If a web pops out at full speed,you have to stop the guiding rollers to re-web the press. If you get caught with you arm bent while doing so,it will pull that slack out and you in quick. Keep it extended

  • Keep it extended and your body as far away a possible.I have had more then a few times felt it grab and try to pull me,stronger and faster then my arm could pull away.But,I kept it extended and my body weight served to save me. Because my arm was fully extended and my body away,it could not pull my arm into the rollers. But it did scare me a bit.lol If you leave slack in your arms ( keeping them bent at the elbows and body close to press ) for a press to grab,eventually it will.

  • Most presses have what are deceptively called " Finger guards". They are usually between the plate and blanket cylinders. They do not,,repeat "do not" guard your fingers. They are there to make sure that all you lose "is" a finger,and not an arm. I am sure that this third world press that fella got caught in did not have those guards. Even so,he should not have touched it while it was running,PERIOD ! Presses deal out a very harsh reality to those who would deify or ignore the rules of safety.

  • I've met other Printers who have had finger's missing, and they all said the same thing, that it was their own fault, had been working too much, or just wasn't paying attention. I have been printing for over 30 years, had some close calls, but knock on wood, still got all my fingers!!

  • printing sure is cheaper overseas? No need for saftey gaurds

  • It's not blue, it's cyan! haha

  • 40" heidelberg speedmaster is the model,IF you inch it backwards his fingertips will pop off like grapes..he was trying to pick a hickey and clearly didn't pass the"IS YOUR I,Q. above room temperature test.I've repaired and installed Heii's for 25 years...There are only three causes for just about ANY accident! 1) Ididn't see 2)Ididn't know3)I didn't think....most explainations start with one of those three

  • @6942ish I ran presses for 27 years and you couldn't have said that any better than you did. Every printer knows a guy like this, no respect for what that machine will do to you. He's lucky he still has his hand.

  • just inch the press the other way so he can get his arm out!!...thats what the supervisors would say to us!!...those cunts hate 'downtime'!!!

  • what model of machine is that?????

  • It's easy to loose a finger or two in rollers.........seen it happen again and again, untrained staff..... there a danger to them selves and others.

  • Whilst working on a Roland MAN 4 colour with coater my assistant de gloved his finger whilst working on the coating unit.

    A nip gaurd had been removed without notification to the press operators.BIG TROUBLE.

    Unfortunately my colleague lost half a finger due to the incompetence of the person who did not advise staff of the danger.

  • This exact thing happened to a coworker while I was on the press next to him. 5-color 40" Planeta. Fire dept. didn't want to cut the machine apart to get his arm out; they ask for a surgeon to come and take his arm off right there! Waited for the doc, an extra 15 minutes, and the doc said he could save the guy's arm. the cut part of the press and we got his arm out. Two yrs later he lost his arm due to an infection.

  • I have coworkers have lost fingers or even others who have lost an eye in one of the blades,other than for saving the arms are stiff and can not stretch more.I busted fingers where I see the nail just jump in small printing presses.on one occasion to accommodate a sheet misplaced on the shelf of a hand press was about to lose but your fingers, if the whole full left hand,only achieves it out but if I caught the tip of the middle finger, now I battle little stepping on the strings of a guitar

    

  • It was a 5 colour A2 Sakurai i had it on inch and when my finger caught i panicked and pressed the inch button again! I ripped my hand out in the panic and left most of the soft tissue behind including my nails leaving me with the bone tips exposed.

  • i just lost two fingers on my printing press it was so badly crushed they had to amputate two of them down to the first joint. Nothing worst than seeing your own fingers looking like smashed sausages!

  • @scozzieprinter are you serious? I once had my hand go thru a AB dick 360....but my hand actually stopped the press and I only had a cut and bruised finger.you must have ben working on something alot stronger.anyways sorry to hear about that!

  • An oriental smurf!

  • I wondered why there was a big blue hand print in the middle of my DVD player owners manual.

  • meh just remove the protection grill and clean it as it goes.... its much faster

  • I work at a printing press i got my hand caught in the rollers of the red on our heat set. fortunately we stopped the press before my hand reached the dead bar so my crew leader only had to turn the drive shaft backs to roll my hand out, in fact i did this a couple hours ago tho im the fly person so when the doc said i couldnt use my hand for a week i couldnt just go back to work.

  • I operate machines just like this one and ive had my hand caught in rollers, lucky for me they were rubber rollers. I still have my hand, i have had other incidents, the hand being my worst. These machines can quite easily kill you if your not careful.

  • I was a roll tender for a M3000-2, worked with some idiots in my time. One newbie packer thought it would be cool to touch a slip roller in the lower unit as I was cleaning the upper slip roller, pinched his finger, he was ok but he never did that again. Freakin clown... What happened to this guy in the video is scary stuff, shocking.

  • holy shit!!!!!!!!! this is damn frightening...and his arm had to be amputated.........why are you people laughing???? whats funny in losing an arm to a print machine? what if you lost your hand? would it be funny?

  • @rweerakkody4565 No. LISTEN more carefully. The narator clearly says that the man's arm was not even broken.

  • I guess he just really wanted a bit of that Reflex. BAHAHAHAAHA.

    Because... his hand... is blue... and crushed.... like flexible... haha... ha...

  • i'm not one to laugh at this kind of thing but... THIS IS HILARIOUS he's just standing there chillin like ya was up i got my arm in a press so what XD cant say i've ever had my hand get stuck but that could ahve to do with the fact that i used my head and didn't STICK MY FINGERS NEAR THE NIP WHILE THE PRESS IS RUNNING

  • Now, get back to work you slacker!

    Want a real press?

    KirbyWest Equipment 512-992-9072

  • I love it went back to working ahhah Slap some kerosene on it and get back to work :}

  • flexo printer myself, woud never attempt to put my hand near the moving parts, stop the press, be smart

  • i also got my 2 fingers between the ink rollers of my printing press but i was lucky that my fingers are all right they just were swollen for some time

  • look to be between the forms and the plate, could have been worse if he went through the plate and blanket!

  • @Pressmantrev yeah i'd say, i just got my 2 fingers pinched between the plate and blanket the other day and ripped off my finger nails. that hurts, i couldnt imagine what this guy musta bin feeling.

  • When i was in collage doing my apprentaship training. I was working next to a guy who was waring a t-shirt that was not tucked in and as he was washing up the press he was sitting on the gaurd of the top gaurd. The t-shrit got grabbed by the ductor roller and tore it clean off his body. It was kinda funny looking back one minute im talking to this guy and the next minute he was standing shirtless and confused haha.

  • My boss got his hand caught in the press years ago and lost a couple of fingers

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  • reflex blue?

  • My boss tolld me that some long haird guy got hes hair in the web and it pulld some of hes skin off hes head.

  • @pinchealberto , i heard the same story, it's a printing "urban legend" or something, I heard it was a woman!

  • @naneez323 Happened at my company IWCO Direct - she got her hair caught in an SW envelope press. Now she puts her hair up like she was supposed to in the first place.

  • yeah dude i work on presses all day and you dont put your hand anywhere you wouldnt put your dick.

  • Hmm looks like he had loose clothing on and got sucked in. Yeah sometimes you're up to your armpit in ink but it's a small price to pay to just roll up your sleeves. Oh yea and gloves are for wusses.

  • Such things may happen, especially in underdeveloped countries where rules are sidelined and some employees might make do with their untrained and understaffed job environment, where almost everything is valid since it may work out in the end.

  • Im feeling blue!

  • I've never been so bloody stupid to put myself near the parts of a running press - it's obvious who the winner will be and if you can't figure it out then don't come into the machine room.

  • Press men aren't the smartest!  Now, the smart guys work in the finishing department. And we have to wear a shirt at work.

  • Pressmen is one word and your not as smart as you thought. I have seen guys get caught and there not dumb at all. They were over worked, 12 hours a day seven days a week. Without knowing when your next "day off" will be. As far as the shirt goes I took the collar out of a press that was wrapped around the ductor roller. That shirt was ripped off a poor basturd that got pulled in. The guy shit his pants in the process.

  • not all the way in I hope? <:(

    how far was he pulled in? Was he hurt or worse?

  • He was a rather heavy set guy. who got his spare tire pulled in. he was setting a waterform to the vibrator and he kneeled down to see if the ink was even on the rollers and the unit behind him pulled him in, He grabbed onto the unit in front of him, while his love handles and shirt went in the rollers. He got loose and layed on the concrete floor and said: DUDE, I SHIT MY PANTS!! and sure enough there was a bump on his ass. The pmd came and treated him. In the end he was Ok after a day or so.

  • That's not too bad. I knew of a guy running a 77" Harris who got a rag caught in the rollers and instead of letting go he braced himself to pull it out. Unfortunately he braced himself by pushing his leg against the plate cylinder which was spinning at a high rate of speed because they were washing the press. His legged got ripped off at the knee. I got this story from two different people who were there. Nobody wanted to go under the press and get the leg. Can't blame them.

  • When that rag goes in. ya let it go. and hit a e stop.

  • thank god i used the mark andy but really i dont know how my dad does it he's been in tha line of work for over 30 years!! i didnt even last one year.all that mixing of colors and trying to line up all eight rollers was a bitch,and trying to keep them lined up was even harder

  • I 've also been Printing 25 years and your taught that you shouldn't put your hands near moving parts.

    Problem is you get so used to doing the same thing day in day out that it only takes one mistake and you're gone. Most modern presses have guards all over the place to protect you, but probably not where that poor fella worked.

  • My uncle worked at Nortex Press before they shut down in the 80's and he told me about a guy that got his ponytail sucked all the way into it during a press run one night, Ive never seen anything happen like that at the TRN but he said they wound up having to shave the guys head completely bald before it was all over with, can you imagine. I have seen somebody slice the top of their hand completely open running the stamper in the mailroom before, that is an interesting sight

  • If it was the Yellow unit it wouldn't have coloured his skin too bad..!

  • man thats a pressmans worst nightmare, for myself and crew. been in printing for only five years. work on a one color web press, seen someone inch there finger threw blankets, not a pretty site

  • "Grateful for his..... freedom from the press."

    Aha good one

  • Dude i also have been printing for over 20 years rule #1 keep your mind on the job and your fingers away from the rollers

  • Luckily he went in between the ink forms and not the impression. I've seen a guys hand come through the front side of a cyan unit looking like a pancake with fingernails... (i don't eat pancakes anymore). I later asked him why he was looking a little blue and deflated. He didn't laugh ,but maybe he misheard me?

  • Ha!HA! Ha! your mean!

  • Yep, been in printing for over 25 years. Seen two freaky accidents.. One got his finger off. one was feeding webs into folder in run mode.. missed the cutter bar by an 1/4".. Yep, have to be careful

  • SILLY BASTARD.

  • very scarey

  • Its not "blue ink" its CYAN!

  • How can you assume that it is CYAN?? It isn't a 4-color press. For all you know it was PMS 300...ya freakin' know-it-all!

  • A dude at my print shop was using those big green gloves and was taking out a washup tray it grabbed the glove and sucked in his hand also. could see the bones. ugh!! on a Komori 40"

  • CHECKOUT HEIDELBERG REPAIR.....

  • the place I work is lengendary for being low budget. but we look out for each other. even so there are accidents. a friend of mine let his attention wander while hanging plates on a old goss offset web press. His left hand went under the finger guard. I heard him scream from across the pressroom nearly 200 feet away, with 4 other presses running. No sir I have a healthy fear and respect for those machines

  • ive been working in a printing factory for about 7 months now and have already had a close call or 2... and seeing this vid scares the crap out of me and how this guys arm wasnt totally shattered and smashed is beond my comprehention....

  • Be careful Ryan! I have worked 25 yrs and never want to see that, a guy at my shop a few months ago went backward between blankets and lost

    2 fingers up to the knuckle, ( on an inch )

  • Where are the guards on this machine? Non existant I am guessing? It is not worth trying to be a hero and not stopping your press and cleaning something properly. What's the point of losing a finger or worse?

  • this is in thialand they probally dont have safty standards there cause at my place theres so may guards on the presses its not funny

  • inched my finger between the plate cylinder and one of the plate rollers once ,on a solna 125, ouch!

  • yeah i clean the blanketts on the run usually at 35  to 40,000 per hour on a web offset with a rag and some spirit. And i just broke my slabber!!!

  • I have work in a newpapaer press room for 23 years. I have seen some bloody messes before. This guy must of got sucked in on a walk. cause he would lost his arm or his whole body would have gone in on a full speed run.

  • In asian countries, the workers are paid based on impressions completed often at a very low rate. As such they have to complete a huge quantity before they can at least earn a bit. so they remove all safety features which will slow and run at top speed

  • It must be and old press, the new ones have so many damn safetys now that it would be almost impossible to do that now.

  • Not true..!! I'm a printer and if I was stupid enough I could open (nearly) any guard on the presses without stopping the machine and stick my arm in them which would probably end up needing amputated at that point.

  • If that is true, then OSHA would like to know what shop your working in so they could have your company fined and make them fix the safetys.

  • It's very true but what isn't true is that OSHA couldn't do squalidly dit about it as OSHA is division of the US Department of Labor and they don't have jurisdiction outside of the USA (I'm in Switzerland) :P

  • hahaha, i see someone had time to clean the ink duct while one of their colleges were hanging out of the inkers, seriously, look, the duct has been cleaned

  • I was a printer for many years you must have clear thought. Once when I was real tired I went to wipe down the blanket as the cylinder was running fortunatly it only caught the towel and not my damn arm.. After I was thinking "What was I thinking"

  • ya i work on a c700i, (a big press!) and i got my hand pulled down through the folder and nips. i had to be life flighted and everything, back to work now but i know the pain, hurts worse than anything in the world

  • I know a guy that was degloved. It wasn't his fault at all. They were webbing up the inline and the gluer was suppose to have been disengaged. It pulled his hand in. There was blood everywere.

  • I use to run a 3 color press that also coated the paper with an opas for writing thru one copy to another. Thing ran at over 2000fpm.

    The transfer blanket on one cylinder and the printing plates on another. Our web ran up and over a reveiw tower with 8 mirrors rotating that would look as if the print was sitting still. We could see imperfections on the tranfer blanket and clean it while it was running at that speed. Very dangerous and I'm sure this fella was doing something like that.

  • woa thatd be scary

  • I've read all the comments in here, and I see allot of people talking about hicky pickers. What is that? We don't have those where I work. Or is there another term for it?

  • hicky pickers is a tool u use to remove hickys you use them on the back of the plate undr the water pan

  • That sounds too dangerous for me to do for a damn paper! Glad we don't have 'em!

  • It looks like a putty knife or a scraper but the blade is hard rubber... back in the day we used to use spit and our thumb

  • Yeah, I asked around at work about them after this. The old timers there had used them in the past. Now they won't let us get close to anything like that. We have to stop and take care of it. But it usually isn't an issue. Thanks for the reply.

  • thats sooo yukky :(

  • What in the hell was he thinking,or was he thinking. If the press is running keep your hands and anything else away.

  • Your right, not one guard on the press. If they can keep it running while getting hickeys off or making adjustments, the guards are probably in the way for them. Cheap labor...they should know better!!! MONEY,MONEY,MONEY!!Stop button HAD to pushed pretty quickly though or crash bar engaged 'cause it would have ripped his arm clean off (well , not TOO clean!!) There was a union brother at another print shop in town got caught in a 40' press....all that was left of his arm was splintered bones!!

  • i didnt see 1 guard on that press

  • HAHAHAHA freedom of the press! :)

  • Well MelodinElric,

    Please Wise Up before it's too late.

    I have Spent 48 years working all sorts of presses

    If you want to keep your fingers and hands,

    take NO chances whatsoever, you'll get no thanks for injuring youself. You will just be a BLOODY MESSY inconvenience to all around you!

  • i don't count on getting hurt. I know what they can do. I'm just not going to let it get to me and i take no chances at all, i fallow all precautions while i run my presses and when someone messes them up (like these two girls got sunflower seed shells in the rollers) i yell at them because i don't want them sticking there hands in there to get hurt. there really dumb anyway and mess the whole shop up but thats another issue.

  • all of our old pressess go to 3rd world ,cheap labor, and they are pretty much junk metal by then...

  • wow what was he trying to do, trying to pick a lint of a moving roller.

  • yup i work with printing presses too in my school and soon for my job. some how this doesnt scare me

  • You probably have guards. I've worked in Hamilton Web Printing for seven months and never seen anything close to this come close to happening. The worst that happened to me was getting my arm skin caught in the count-o-veyor. I was tired from having three jobs at the time. Remember, only use a printing shop as a stepping stone, don't get stuck there for life. I'm almost in the army myself.

  • yeah i use Wide Automatic Hamadas, Regular Wide Hamada and a Ryobi. I love printing though and if anything i want my own shop. And make everyone work for me but i can do the work if i want. The worst i've gotten was at a competion and it was an old AB Dick and it scratched the hell out of my arm, and cleaning the impression cylinder on the hamada i got a scratch too but thats it.

  • Where the hell is the stop button always keep one hand on the stop button when chasing hickies.

  • how long do you think a press going 20 thousand impressions an hour takes to stop (afer you hit the button) Long enough

    to rip off your arm I would think.

  • they stop pretty quick but ya im sure that buy the time you got caught and the time it took you to clue into what happend and hit the e stop  your arm would be toast

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  • even the elder presses have guard on them!! stupid fucker, he wont do that again,as the man said dont try to beat the safety, its there for us.not the machine

  • This guy should get fired for ruining the press and slowing down production!

  • Damn!!! You work in the office huh?!?

  • I refuse to work in places with no respect to safety. I hate to be a witness to even someones elses mishaps, let alone myself! Stop the press, clean the plate / blanket, and continue, it's that easy pressmen!

  • Always use a hickey picker to reomve hickies.

    By the way printing sux FRUSTRATING CARRER!

  • u know how when u get a bonar when u see a fine looking girl??well my hand hurts by watching this video my left hand too

  • a rolled up piece of blanket works well for hickies(rubber out) or a razor blade with the cardboard sleeve still on.

  • No Guards = No Fingers! Worst I saw/helped remove: Guy ran his hand between the former rollers (.005" clearance) on web press. Hand flattened, size of baseball glove, when it came out. Bleh! Be Safe!! -Dr. Litho

  • guy i worked with got stuck between blanket and impression nip. 12 weeks to heal the gangrenous hand. niiiiice. he didnt try to trick the trips he was just a boof head. usually going thru the inkers will deglove your arm

  • People get hurt like that because of lack of knowledge of the equipment and lack of common sense. I've seen people get hurt hanging a plate or a blanket just because they're plain stupid.... and guards won't help them there....

  • Asia is killing American printers with ridiculously low prices. The average Chinese 6 color 2-man press has a fully loaded labor rate of $3/hour. Watching this video...it all starts to make sense.

  • someone must have been quick on the stop button though. A press like that wouldnt just stop...rip your whole arm off.

  • Just a couple days ago at the printing plant that I work at there was a girl or woman, don't know how old she is, that got her hand caught in a binder! I think it was the part that feeds the covers into the binder. Sliced her hand/wrist up pretty good, and she was only working there for about a month. It's an older binder.

  • hes lucky he got sucked in to the ink rollers and not and inward nip of the plate and blanket cylinder. he would be making blue orgami out of his hand.

  • yes

  • Yeah fark workin on a printing press like that, no guards. But i bet theres heaps of'em in india and asia. I used to use my finger as a hicky picker on a GTO, but the KBA im on now gets fark all hickies! YIPEE

  • Yup, use my thumb all the time on the GTO. Keep your hand on the gate and get ready to lift it if gets hold of your thumb though!!! Even then , the press still has at least one revolution it it before it comes to a stop. BE CAREFUL!!! Graveyard full of people who don't pay attention!!

  • You can't even get near the rollers on the presses i run without opening the gates. Gotta love OSHA

  • safety first

    never attemp to defeat any safety device, it's there for a reazon

    most importan of all USE COMMON SENSE.

  • the prise you pay for the sabotation of your safety caps!

  • Being a printer myself, the only thing that this guy should of used is just common sense! Idiot!

  • well, you kind of expect that with no guards, and the safety circuit bypassed...I work with printing presses too.

  • so one would assume that you'd know better than to go sticking your fingers in it and use something else instead? you can't always depend on the safety circuits to save your ass, you do have to use your own common sense from time to time. we've had more accidents on our safety-caged Ryobi than on our open AB Dicks.

  • I use a credit card instead. Rule one: Keep hands out of the machine.

  • You would be suprized at how many people use their thumbnail as a hicky picker. A cracked plate will effectivly remove your thumbnail.

  • Not only that you get a stupid looking shine on your nail they were it like a badge of honor stupid asses.

  • That is dumb, .010 Mylar is cheap.

  • next time use a hickie picker

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