i like what it is and want it but vw's are not bullet proof reliable and thus id have to choose a civic si which actually is at a better price point as well. actually i am considering a scion tc.
@toyota420xp the new vw's are very reliable, and cheap to fix when something does go wrong. now if you go to a dealership, it will be a different story.
@Mamodad The Civic Si is impessive because its all motor and although it doesnt make the torque that the GTI makes it has all the top end horse power.
@outlivetheexecution you sir are the definition of a loser...you are arguing with a kid you dont know and through youtube comments none the less...go drive your shitty american made car off of a cliff
@ajlod934893 volvo ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL DUDE SERIOUSLY, see a doctor like dr ballard or dr. scholls, geez what fuckin morons.
@outlivetheexecution Yep. Personally I like the C30's funky styling better and I like the interior more as well. Quickness wise they feel about the same even though the C30 is faster. It's just an all round better car if you ask me.
i have seen many good drivers and NOT 1 of them drive a VW ? It's always VW driver passing on a double line or passing on a curve or on a cell phone ,speeding through a red light etc. Parking in a handicap spot etc. I want to hear your story. Does anyone else see this????Is the seat poking holes in their ASS to make them drive like ASSHOLES??? WHAT IS IT???MENTAL RETARDATION WHAT????LET ME KNOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS
@outlivetheexecution I have seen VW drivers drive like shit plenty, but you cant camp them all into the same category their are a lot of VW drivers who don't drive like you describe.
@ajlod934893 your are right but not the ones I see.I have got to test drive one I guess but then I will have to kill myself.I just want to know why the percentage of them drive that way. its never a bug or one of them thar camper deals,tho.I would love to crush dubs all day long .They are way over priced and NOT a CHEV.Hey thats a good idea , have a VW camp and trash their car @ night .
@tiresmoker123 hey come back when you have more views !!! 2 views in TWO YEARS LOLOL FUCKHEAD.EVEN THE LUNAR VEHICLE IS a GM / NASA vehicle BEAT THAT !!!!! oh , you can,t !! and its a FREE country where I come from ,AT LEAST I HAVE A TIRESMOKER VIDEO FEATURED !!
@outlivetheexecution haha! at least i dont have to get internet friends i'll never meet to feel important. grow up, drop the ego, and just shut the fuck up. peace.
@tiresmoker123 Peace? If you wanted peace YOU should have shut the FUCK UP yourself and I wouldn't have had to explain the big words to you.But like I said your 19 and know nothing so it's to be expected .you couldn't get internet friends even if you tried LOLOLOL, prove me wrong then..........
@outlivetheexecution the gti is better butt fucker in what way is the honda better besides in a straight line? when you buy a honda you end up with a honda when you buy a volkswagen you end up with a audi or something that would cost alot more. you are clearly uniformed!!!
@outlivetheexecution Explain big words to him? I didn't see you use any "big words". Your grammar is horrendous as well, you obviously don't know the meaning of "your" and "you're". Since when did views give you the right to be an asshole? You think because you have 10,000 views on 1 video you're a big shot? I have over 800,000 upload views but that doesn't make me better than anyone. I can't imagine anyone as stupid as you behind the wheel. I'd be scared for my life.
Well, the MK stands for Mark. That's how VW denotes the changing body styles in the Golf/Jetta platform. MK4 was from about 1999 (too lazy to look up right now) to 2004. If I remember correctly, there were a couple of MK4's labeled as 2005's. The MK5 body was used from 2005 to 2009. Now they're on the MK6 (see above video). The R32 was a special edition Golf. There were only 5000 MK4 R32's in the US. The R34 is one of the iterations of the Nissan GTR. And the GTI is the performance Golf
And when I say performance Golf, that just means a step above the standard Golf. The R32 is a step above the GTI. They're also thinking about bringing the Golf R, also referred to as the R20, to the US. The numbers in the R line denote the engine displacement. So the R32 has a 3.2 liter VR6 engine, and the R20 has a turbocharged, 2 liter inline 4. Sorry if I was too thorough. haha
Apparently some people are getting between 40 and 60 hp from a chip, so it's not a big deal. Besides, who is going to buy the Golf R if the GTI is so much cheaper and so close when it comes to horsepower?
This review completely lost me when he said the GTI started in 1984. ANY car guy worth his salt knows it was the '83 model year (and long before that in Europe). For a "tech" director at C&D, he should know. Between that and getting the price wrong, C&D isn't exactly credible.
@ "Uber"...oops, you're right! He was off by $50! OMG! How embarrassing for Car&Driver! I bet when this presenter realizes his mistake, he'll shoot himself.
@emantabrizi why the hell is that car so cheap in the US? In germany the base-price for manual is 26,500 Euro (35,810 USD). That's about 9000 euro more....why so much? just because it is a different country? ;(
For one, the Euro version gets a brand new engine that is 10% better in term of performance, power, fuel economy, and emission. U.S. version has the exact engine as MKV with only a retuned duel exhaust. The rear view mirror has auto dim control and is wide angle. Standard include backup camera and auto light sensor for auto headlamp on/off. Auto park assist is also available. Their remote key can also control window operation. Just a few things the Euro GTI has that U.S. don't.
the performance chip already out for the new GTI grants an hp boost to 266 which is right on par with teh speed 3. The speed 3 is still the more "modable" and faster car but the GTI is more refined / better looking. Both are nice cars and good to see VW step up its game.
my local dealer offers GIAC engine flash upgrade for $600. it gives u an extra 50hp and the sales guy who owns a GTI with it says it can beat a regular porsche 911
Once the VW does that, there is no LSD or technology to stop it from torque steering just like the Mazdaspeed3 / MPS. That is why every reviewer says the GTI is more composed and I don't blame them I would say the same. It has MUCH less torque... But some brain dead people go and mod their GTI believing it will handle just as good.. Someone, please shoot me... So basicaly speaking, if you know the cars limit, the Mazdaspeed3 is the most fun and value for money car out there without having to mod
That is for FWD cars... Of course, imo, the WRX has the best engine and chassis combination for 2010 hot hatches :) But value for money is where it looses. Hence I will pick up my new Mazdaspeed3 next week instead of the 2010 WRX xD Sorry Subaru maybe now you guys will consider enhancing the interior of the impreza range :P
looks good, but i wish that america's version was actually upgraded. this one is pretty much just the old version in a more sculpted body.
we don't get dynamic chassis control, we don't get the engine upgrades, and we don't get the suspension upgrades... and vw wants us to spend an extra $1,000 on this one than the mxV? for what?
the cc is just a poser. it looks sporty and cool, but in reality a mazda 6 is probably better to drive. you're saying you'd spend an extra $6,000 over the gti to get a car that's less fun to drive, less practical, and overall... worse?
actually, the 2.0T is a lot better than the 6. The 6 has shit quality and no technology in the itnerior, while the CC has a 3D navigation system. can't get a 3D nav system anywhere else.. Also, if you want fun to drive, Get the 3.6 CC.
have you ever driven one though? I've driven a couple of Audi's (to specify, the Q5 and RS6) and I own the '07 Passat. The reviewers say that VWs are not fun to drive because of its unique electrical steering system. it feels numb, but its extremely precise.
Sorry don't mean to be a prick but how in the hell is the IS250 quick? It looses to a Corolla Sportivo.... Not saying the sportivo is necessarily slow but no way the IS250 is quick! But they are classy cars for the price.
Civic Si + VW GTI are both for kids actually.
berKut1923 1 month ago
i dont get why people argue that gti is better or civic si is better...both cars are good in their respective areas...
Xamashi 2 months ago
@Xamashi
Yeah Civic Si is good at being slightly cheaper and a whole lot slower :D
luminaeus 2 months ago
i like what it is and want it but vw's are not bullet proof reliable and thus id have to choose a civic si which actually is at a better price point as well. actually i am considering a scion tc.
toyota420xp 1 year ago
@toyota420xp the new vw's are very reliable, and cheap to fix when something does go wrong. now if you go to a dealership, it will be a different story.
Hellz420 10 months ago
VOLKSWAGON makes ASSHOLES feel @ HOME.
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
Herbie
1988DebonairInc 1 year ago
@Mamodad The Civic Si is impessive because its all motor and although it doesnt make the torque that the GTI makes it has all the top end horse power.
steelcityracer1320 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution you sir are the definition of a loser...you are arguing with a kid you dont know and through youtube comments none the less...go drive your shitty american made car off of a cliff
zburgess9 1 year ago
Sorry, but if I'm going to get a fwd turbo hatch it's going to be the Volvo C30, not a GTI.
ajlod934893 1 year ago
@ajlod934893 volvo ? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL DUDE SERIOUSLY, see a doctor like dr ballard or dr. scholls, geez what fuckin morons.
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution Yep. Personally I like the C30's funky styling better and I like the interior more as well. Quickness wise they feel about the same even though the C30 is faster. It's just an all round better car if you ask me.
ajlod934893 1 year ago
@ajlod934893 ya but heres the kicker I DIDN'T ASK !!
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution Ok...looks like another spam account.
ajlod934893 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution lmao
nelson4568 1 year ago
i have seen many good drivers and NOT 1 of them drive a VW ? It's always VW driver passing on a double line or passing on a curve or on a cell phone ,speeding through a red light etc. Parking in a handicap spot etc. I want to hear your story. Does anyone else see this????Is the seat poking holes in their ASS to make them drive like ASSHOLES??? WHAT IS IT???MENTAL RETARDATION WHAT????LET ME KNOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!THANKS
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution I have seen VW drivers drive like shit plenty, but you cant camp them all into the same category their are a lot of VW drivers who don't drive like you describe.
ajlod934893 1 year ago
@ajlod934893 your are right but not the ones I see.I have got to test drive one I guess but then I will have to kill myself.I just want to know why the percentage of them drive that way. its never a bug or one of them thar camper deals,tho.I would love to crush dubs all day long .They are way over priced and NOT a CHEV.Hey thats a good idea , have a VW camp and trash their car @ night .
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution stop bitchin.... please...
tiresmoker123 1 year ago
@tiresmoker123 hey come back when you have more views !!! 2 views in TWO YEARS LOLOL FUCKHEAD.EVEN THE LUNAR VEHICLE IS a GM / NASA vehicle BEAT THAT !!!!! oh , you can,t !! and its a FREE country where I come from ,AT LEAST I HAVE A TIRESMOKER VIDEO FEATURED !!
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution haha! at least i dont have to get internet friends i'll never meet to feel important. grow up, drop the ego, and just shut the fuck up. peace.
tiresmoker123 1 year ago
@tiresmoker123 Peace? If you wanted peace YOU should have shut the FUCK UP yourself and I wouldn't have had to explain the big words to you.But like I said your 19 and know nothing so it's to be expected .you couldn't get internet friends even if you tried LOLOLOL, prove me wrong then..........
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution the gti is better butt fucker in what way is the honda better besides in a straight line? when you buy a honda you end up with a honda when you buy a volkswagen you end up with a audi or something that would cost alot more. you are clearly uniformed!!!
mrporschepimp 1 year ago
@mrporschepimp just speak in your own language i will translate , no problem . ok try again
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution Explain big words to him? I didn't see you use any "big words". Your grammar is horrendous as well, you obviously don't know the meaning of "your" and "you're". Since when did views give you the right to be an asshole? You think because you have 10,000 views on 1 video you're a big shot? I have over 800,000 upload views but that doesn't make me better than anyone. I can't imagine anyone as stupid as you behind the wheel. I'd be scared for my life.
Nebraskahusker23 1 year ago
@Nebraskahusker23 ya i text 2 much but im not in school but I'll b your friend.
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution I can tell you're not in school.
Nebraskahusker23 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution your a computer geek. you own a PRIUS!!!!!
mrporschepimp 1 year ago
@mrporschepimp wats a prus?
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution You are a idiot!! and you dont know how to spell.
mrporschepimp 1 year ago
@mrporschepimp OH MY GOD did I misspell something OH MY GOD I am so SORRY HOW HORRIBLE for YOU TO SEE THAT .
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
@outlivetheexecution, holy crap you just described the average VW driver.
WhiteWingedKnight 1 year ago
@WhiteWingedKnight I KNOW LOL !!
outlivetheexecution 1 year ago
GTI is cool but Civic Si is more fun
FourStarGen118 1 year ago
Have you ever driven a new GTI? I've driven both and you couldn't be more wrong.
matt2294 1 year ago
Just got one.. Candy White, 18^ Detroit wheels and 6 speed manual. Loving it!
andrebebum 1 year ago
carrão da porra x.x
shevichelo 1 year ago
@davincho1111 me too...=( civic si sedan or gti... Not sure but I'm planning on modding in the future
BMWDriverC101 1 year ago
GTI hands down, MK1-MK6, whichever one, it is a true driving experience.
Chigti1 1 year ago
Im on a big dilema should i get the civic si or the gti???
davincho1111 1 year ago
As if you wouldn't know the Answer to that one....
Laceration242 1 year ago
@davincho1111
GTI
BIGC3002 1 year ago
Put it this way a German car is the way to go.
ExtraCrispi19 1 year ago
si if it's a coupe
Philio3002 1 year ago
gti... the interior itself should make the decision for you
ronkerjake 1 year ago 5
@ronkerjake seats in the back are plaid. i have enough plaid in my closet
FourStarGen118 1 year ago
@davincho1111
Civic Si is for kids and a GTI is for adults.
MamoDad 1 year ago 53
@davincho1111 For me it'd be a no contest, I wouldd take the GTI. But if you have doubts go to a dealer and try both.
AlumarsX 1 year ago
@MADMAXyzr that's true, but unfortunatley BMW won't bring it across the pond
86bmw325i 2 years ago
The first Golf GTI pocket rocket was invented in 1976 not 1984, you mean it was not exported to the United States until then.
krayzieboy 2 years ago
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BMW 120d is better :#
MADMAXyzf 2 years ago
Created the "pocket rocket" in 1974, not 1984.
yamz89 2 years ago 26
@yamz89 75'
AyonRaven 1 year ago
First golf 1974, first GTI 1976.
norri8ws 8 months ago
Sweet car, but I'll stick with my MK4 R32 for now... Maybe the Golf R will get me to upgrade. :D
LooseFalcon 2 years ago
What is the difference between MK4, MKV, R32, R34, GTI etc......?
SecularTechnology 2 years ago
Well, the MK stands for Mark. That's how VW denotes the changing body styles in the Golf/Jetta platform. MK4 was from about 1999 (too lazy to look up right now) to 2004. If I remember correctly, there were a couple of MK4's labeled as 2005's. The MK5 body was used from 2005 to 2009. Now they're on the MK6 (see above video). The R32 was a special edition Golf. There were only 5000 MK4 R32's in the US. The R34 is one of the iterations of the Nissan GTR. And the GTI is the performance Golf
LooseFalcon 2 years ago 2
And when I say performance Golf, that just means a step above the standard Golf. The R32 is a step above the GTI. They're also thinking about bringing the Golf R, also referred to as the R20, to the US. The numbers in the R line denote the engine displacement. So the R32 has a 3.2 liter VR6 engine, and the R20 has a turbocharged, 2 liter inline 4. Sorry if I was too thorough. haha
LooseFalcon 2 years ago
Sorry, see above. Don't remember if I directed those both as replies to your question.
LooseFalcon 2 years ago
The GTI really needs a boost to 250 HP if it wants to catch up to the current generation.
SecularTechnology 2 years ago
Apparently some people are getting between 40 and 60 hp from a chip, so it's not a big deal. Besides, who is going to buy the Golf R if the GTI is so much cheaper and so close when it comes to horsepower?
LooseFalcon 2 years ago
What a boring car to look at!
It just looks old to me!
hondacar 2 years ago
This review completely lost me when he said the GTI started in 1984. ANY car guy worth his salt knows it was the '83 model year (and long before that in Europe). For a "tech" director at C&D, he should know. Between that and getting the price wrong, C&D isn't exactly credible.
Uberwagon 2 years ago
@ "Uber"...the price he stated was correct. $23,489 plus a $700 destination charge equals $24,189.
emantabrizi 2 years ago
Check their website smarty. It's wrong.
Uberwagon 2 years ago
@ "Uber"...oops, you're right! He was off by $50! OMG! How embarrassing for Car&Driver! I bet when this presenter realizes his mistake, he'll shoot himself.
emantabrizi 2 years ago
@emantabrizi why the hell is that car so cheap in the US? In germany the base-price for manual is 26,500 Euro (35,810 USD). That's about 9000 euro more....why so much? just because it is a different country? ;(
c00lchill3r 1 year ago
@ "c00lchill3r"...To be honest, I have no idea. Sorry.
emantabrizi 1 year ago
@c00lchill3r
Because here in the US, we don't have to pay value-added tax (MWST) and more cars are sold so there's greater competition (=lower prices)
liftedview 1 year ago
@c00lchill3r Maybe Volkswagen in Canada/Us are made in Brazil? While yours made in Germany?
scvs2 1 year ago
All GTIs are made in Germany : )
ceetee1459 1 year ago
For one, the Euro version gets a brand new engine that is 10% better in term of performance, power, fuel economy, and emission. U.S. version has the exact engine as MKV with only a retuned duel exhaust. The rear view mirror has auto dim control and is wide angle. Standard include backup camera and auto light sensor for auto headlamp on/off. Auto park assist is also available. Their remote key can also control window operation. Just a few things the Euro GTI has that U.S. don't.
kkra3 1 year ago
VW needs to bump the boost up on the GTI, its competitors, are 60+ hp up on the GTI.
seroyer2 2 years ago
the performance chip already out for the new GTI grants an hp boost to 266 which is right on par with teh speed 3. The speed 3 is still the more "modable" and faster car but the GTI is more refined / better looking. Both are nice cars and good to see VW step up its game.
thegarbageman21 2 years ago
my local dealer offers GIAC engine flash upgrade for $600. it gives u an extra 50hp and the sales guy who owns a GTI with it says it can beat a regular porsche 911
SRQshark 2 years ago
Once the VW does that, there is no LSD or technology to stop it from torque steering just like the Mazdaspeed3 / MPS. That is why every reviewer says the GTI is more composed and I don't blame them I would say the same. It has MUCH less torque... But some brain dead people go and mod their GTI believing it will handle just as good.. Someone, please shoot me... So basicaly speaking, if you know the cars limit, the Mazdaspeed3 is the most fun and value for money car out there without having to mod
scoobeydoooo 2 years ago
who gives a shit about ''much less torque'' if its only 0.1 second slower from 0 to 62mph ? lol
maxou5757 2 years ago
That is for FWD cars... Of course, imo, the WRX has the best engine and chassis combination for 2010 hot hatches :) But value for money is where it looses. Hence I will pick up my new Mazdaspeed3 next week instead of the 2010 WRX xD Sorry Subaru maybe now you guys will consider enhancing the interior of the impreza range :P
scoobeydoooo 2 years ago
wow, it accelerates really well downhill
theworldsransoming 2 years ago
who does he keep lookin' at?
rezalini 2 years ago
is that a valentine one radar detector?
lafan805 2 years ago 2
Specially like the interior WHAT?!?!
omg maybe my friends grandpa would like it. He's maybe around 100 yo or so.
MrBaritoni 2 years ago
man. shame on you.
those are some old school seats. respect that, some retro things look awesome.
and that nice navigation touch screen is old.
yeah guess what company is the only to have 3D navigation? You guessed it!
Xyrophobia 2 years ago
Is this car rear wheel drive?
OneOfaKind949 2 years ago
A hatchback rear wheel drive? Are you serious lol
The GTI is front wheel drive...
carsaregood911 2 years ago
No VW Golfs have always been FWD Unless you buy the R32 version which is AWD.
AllThingsThatAreBad 2 years ago
nice car, but what a boring review!!! damn! ima stick to topgear!
BIGGIEDEVIL 2 years ago
@BIGGIEDEVIL
lol... has top gear reviewed it yet?!
tomatoe58 2 years ago
don't think so but i could be wrong but that show is the shit man Clarkson is the man for reviews!
BIGGIEDEVIL 2 years ago
Nope
ScLeCo 2 years ago
ok good cus i thought i missed it.. i want them to
tomatoe58 2 years ago
Good car!
BlackTransAmdude 2 years ago
Gotta love the Valentine 1 on the glass!!
clubtc05 2 years ago
looks good, but i wish that america's version was actually upgraded. this one is pretty much just the old version in a more sculpted body.
we don't get dynamic chassis control, we don't get the engine upgrades, and we don't get the suspension upgrades... and vw wants us to spend an extra $1,000 on this one than the mxV? for what?
coolerdude44 2 years ago
King of the hatchbacks
saudim46 2 years ago 2
Cool VW! Though, if I was going to get a Volkswagen, I'd get the CC.
jrodigan5 2 years ago
the cc is just a poser. it looks sporty and cool, but in reality a mazda 6 is probably better to drive. you're saying you'd spend an extra $6,000 over the gti to get a car that's less fun to drive, less practical, and overall... worse?
coolerdude44 2 years ago
It's all opinion...
jrodigan5 2 years ago
actually, the 2.0T is a lot better than the 6. The 6 has shit quality and no technology in the itnerior, while the CC has a 3D navigation system. can't get a 3D nav system anywhere else.. Also, if you want fun to drive, Get the 3.6 CC.
Xyrophobia 2 years ago
every reviewer in the world says the cc isn't fun to drive at all. technology and a nice interior doesn't equate to fun-to-drive...
coolerdude44 2 years ago
have you ever driven one though? I've driven a couple of Audi's (to specify, the Q5 and RS6) and I own the '07 Passat. The reviewers say that VWs are not fun to drive because of its unique electrical steering system. it feels numb, but its extremely precise.
Xyrophobia 2 years ago
yeah i know, lexus has the same problem with the is250. it's really quick and precise, but completely devoid of feedback.
doesn't matter how precise and quick it is, if there's no feel, it's an unnerving system.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
Sorry don't mean to be a prick but how in the hell is the IS250 quick? It looses to a Corolla Sportivo.... Not saying the sportivo is necessarily slow but no way the IS250 is quick! But they are classy cars for the price.
scoobeydoooo 2 years ago
actually you're right, it's not very quick at all idk why i wrote that lmao, but i do hear the steering is very quick and precise.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
very nice
chrisw40 2 years ago
you skipped a mazine. are you skipping another one?
ilikenarutoalot 2 years ago
Iove this car but it wudn't do no good in the chicago winter!...this wud get lost in 6 ft of snow!
MakeLoveNoBabiez 2 years ago
wow the new gti looks rlly good =DD
DJProPain 2 years ago 4
looks good. But I would rather have a coupe
wilsonweed123 2 years ago