The 2012 Deception Presentation - (5 of 6)

[pmsan29]

Matrix Christians

[wynegg]

BLA BLA BLA...!

[OG1JABRONI]

NWO FTW! Get rid of these ridiculous Religions that you started in the first place and make these morons worship Satan. I cannot wait!

[TFrills]

Life, alien and terrestrial is proof of Gods existence

[TFrills]

No two beings represent the same level of consciousness. This being true, the only real way to align with truth is to align with love. Jesus is love. So is buddha. So is everyone.Casting blame and using people is DEFINATELY not love. You may not believe in enlightenment, but not everyone is the same.

[TFrills]

The last thing a truly enlightened person would do is wrongly blame a world religion for a "new world order". Religion is indeed a tool of enlightenment, just like every experience and channeling that anyone can have. The only variable complicating this is the vast differentiation of brain wavelengths or "perspectives" that we all have as humans.

[warpedweaver100]

Giving you my time and open mind for the first 4 parts, I was dismayed and disappointed to hear that after "debunking" others based on scientific principles, you then base your theories of what will happen on the very unscientific bible. What a contradiction. What is said (after many edits and translations from the original) in the bible, is far from scientific. Please use the same criteria to judge your own beliefs as you do for others.

[thwoolfe]

oh god, a nut jub talking about other nutjobs, saying the other nutty ideas are nuttier then his own nutty idea.

member of the bible belt in the uneducated states of amaerica?

omfg

[AlHogan29]

LOL I was with you until this video. Good research and I agree but youre basically debunking one spiritually false idea and praising another. Also you might want to research the history of the Roman Catholics cause their not quite the saints that you think they are. Clearly religion does stifle freedom of thought. 2012 is magical thinking yes...but so is a mythical man coming back to life a 3rd time to save you! You guys need to get a life and stop fearing freedom!

[brutus301]

Youre so right the draconian dogma that has been jammed into our heads since we could comprehend language is the truth. We should clutch a bible and suffer through this shit hole until we are worm food. I can assure you that this whole shebang goes way deeper than your pea brain can comprehend. Jesus wasnt even his name and you are as off your rocker as the New agers. This is just mental masturbation

[cinema2k]

Sounds like NWO.

[psyk0munkee]

You do a pretty good job with the science behind 2012...and then start talking about *BIBLICAL FACTS*. You can't expect reasoning minds to take you seriously when you start talking about the greatest work of fiction as a book with presentable facts. Ever think that the bible is an alien work to subjugate small-thinking people into a malleable army of holy warriors, who can be used to enforce their will on fellow humans who don't accept whatever they want to do? Put the bible down, it hurts you.

[truekinggrim]

@Lightdrop2012 actually I do believe in the spiritual, but I also believe that the spiritual cannot interact freely with the material. The two operate on different planes of existence, so even if demons do exist, they still wouldn't be able to interact with us. Also, you should get your head examined...And I still don't believe in the christian god. You people entertain me.

[truekinggrim]

I was enjoying the science in the first few videos, but seriously, demons? This is reminding me of that BS movie "12 biggest lies", where it starts with logical conjecture then follows with utter BS.

[Lightdrop2012]

@truekinggrim you should be like the majority of the people of our generation. they think that in order to be realistic they have to believe only in what is material; so they consider that there is no angels, no demons, no soul and probably no God. I am afraid that soon everybody will have to admit the existence of the unseen as the world hidden rulers have decided to spread their beliefs to be adopted by the masses. it is called mystery religion, they are simply spirit worshipers

[Lightdrop2012]

@truekinggrim. you should be like the majority of the people of our generation. they think that in order to be realistic they have to believe only in what is material; so they consider that there is no angels, no demons, no soul and probably no God. I am afraid that soon everybody will have to admit the existence of the unseen as the world hidden rulers have decided to spread their beliefs to be adopted by the masses. it is called mystery religion, they are simply spirit worshipers

[zipfreer]

This Video is right on, it's a game of Chess between God and Satan just like at the cross lucky God will be 10 moves ahead again . We just have to fellow his Word!

[psyk0munkee]

@zipfreer

How was god ten moves ahead? By having planned JC's crucifixion himself? I don't know why you would want to be on the side of this 'god', but maybe you just haven't studied the competition enough. Lucifer(his real name) gave us knowledge, because he is the bringer of light. Nobody has ever explained why this is a bad thing(they've tried), probably because thinking that a free mind is a bad thing probably doesn't lend itself to higher education. Have fun with your 'benevolent' god.

[zipfreer]

@psyk0munkee Have fun with your in Hell!! u are mislead sick of U 20's somethings that don't have clue !

[psyk0munkee]

@zipfreer As long as you aren't there, I'm sure hell can't be all that bad, because at least I won't have to try and decipher your poor attempt at using the english language. By the way, if god is 10 moves ahead, why is he lucky? Don't you mean clever? Also, I assume you meant to say *follow* his word, so why don't you start by stoning your children the next time they disobey you. Or do you only believe in the nice parts of the bible? By the way, age doesn't equal wisdom ;)

[Lightdrop2012]

@psyk0munkee If you consider that there is competition between God and Lucifer, which in my opinion is inexact, as the creature cannot compet with the creator, I prefer to be on the side of the One who commands death and résurrection, who judges the souls and gives access to heaven or hell.

Your lucifer admits beeing created by God, he also admits his story with Adam as descrived in the holy books, why is he so silent about the resurrection and the judgment ?

[psyk0munkee]

@Lightdrop2012 I guess I should have been more clear. I was only arguing for the fictional character of Lucifer, because I don't believe in him. Or god. Because I'm not a 12 year old anymore. If god created Lucifer, then he is responsible for all the problems that you say he is going to fix, which sounds a lot like the bankers who funded the Nazis and the Allies in WWII. And pretty much all wars since then. That's a nice crowd you like to associate with.

[Lightdrop2012]

@psyk0munkee If you consider that there is competition between God and Lucifer, which in my opinion is inexact, as the creature cannot compet with the creator, I prefer to be on the side of the One who commands death and résurrection, who judges the souls and gives access to heaven or hell.

Your lucifer admits beeing created by God, he also admits his story with Adam as descrived in the holy books, why is he so silent about the resurrection and the judgment ?

[FatStackStar]

Agog over Bush's comments on Gog and Magog

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[joedell71]

I really like your video's. Heres my question The vatican and the roman catholic church is one of the most powerful, well organized and ruthless organizations on earth. Are you telling me that a bunch of new age hippies are gonna stand against that? does anyone remember the crusades? Think what the church has available to it now as far as knowledge and technology there's no way they are going to go quietly into the ditch before a bunch of new age nonsense. Or are they in on it too?.....

[karenl1234]

God desires for all to be shaved and none perish, you will individually be judged so one can display show teach and proclaim but each shall have their own personal judgement, instead of arguing and creating negative fear angry vibes know that true love is your prayer for the unsaved the poor the hurting the less misfortunite, create positive prayer choices and be grateful for a God that offers salvation by the blood sacrifice of Jesus. new age stuff comesgoes tuthisinyourheartgiven by God!

[showmemoblues]

@mespasticpunk He is not my master as you believe in a master as for my soul will be going to a much higher and better place than yours LOL' I know your health will be getting much worse as anything to me will be 10 times worse for you LOL feel it yet see how you are getting weaker and weaker as you are becoming a femboy...peace and watch your health sneezy 

[stdoomsayer]

You are on it Chris White you did a really good job on this topic. Thank you! 

[SOCOMICEPICK]

how can people fall into a "false" antichrist and then the real antichrist taking over the false antichrist......when christ comes down at armageddon in the end game? it makes sense to try to play off of what is written but they cant fake the real christ because they cant duplicate his coming with all the events that happen at that time.

[Zzozze]

It's funny: personally I don't believe at all that a (real) savior called "Jesus Christ" will appear in our lifetimes, but I totally agree with all the scenarii of deception you are exposing here for 2012..

[illustratz]

I liked the first part of this series -- with the SCIENTIFIC debunking of the 2012 stories -- but you've now lost credibility with the "religious" conspiracy theories. Too bad. It was interesting up until now.

[sthnwatch]

Barack Obama , false anti-christ.

W W W, real anti-christ.

[FirebirdKnight]

You lost any credability you had when you started to quote bible scripture as fact.

[ghostdancer1984]

@FirebirdKnight that is entirely your opinion.

[sthnwatch]

@FirebirdKnight You state your invalid opinion as if it were fact. Give up your bias against scripture and put your hatred against those who say they're christians but are infiltrators of the truth and seek to deceive us. I'm talking about the "churches". The "churches are not following chris at all. They are full of hypocrites, you obviously see that but don't lose sight of the truth in words that Jesus speaks. It's your soul that's on the line and YOU are worth it!

[focusCore]

ps. Eventually everything relates to the most common nominator (of core beliefs), so I totally understand why this must be interpreted through the teachings of the Bible. The teachings of Jesus are truth, no matter in what package we choose to wrap it in or ways we dilute and dismiss what really matters (!). He is the most powerful content of our history/culture that nothing compares to, though similar features are described to others from other eras, it's about our highest aspirations to truth.

[focusCore]

Excellent input, we could discuss several details/presumptions made here as we keep on exploring ourselves from multiple angles. We have a tendency to put too much responsibility on sources outside of ourselves, when in fact it's all about US in action. We have to walk through the path of positions before ending up with a synthesis on certain matters. I have a thought about beliefs forming reality, what you believe, so shall it be, in regards to manipulating collective beliefs for a reason. Yay!

[itwaschris]

Asking, Who benefit$ is a really good question. Too bad you ruined it by preaching. You just lost all your credibility and sabotaged your original stated goal to debunk the 2012 nuts. It's pointless to try to convert them to Christianity because they already are Christians basically. They just want new window dressing. They want the angels to be called Pleidians and they want Jesus to get a sex change, that's all.

[ccheng21]

.......your scientific critiques are good.....

but are you trying to use the bible, the world's most edited and politically motivated book, to debunk 2012?

[DarkwingScooter]

Okay, so you go on about the facts and give a very grounded critique. Well done.

But then you go all mental with bible quotes written by people with essentially the same kinds of ideas? Gnostic revelations and whatnot.

Oh man, what a let-down. :(

[greggusan]

you said it Darkwing. This guy just redifined "Ironic".

[ccheng21]

I couldn't agree more, his science was good....

but then now he's just fighting fire with fire....his steaming piles of bullshit from the bible, vs the steaming piles of bullshit from the pro-2012 movement.

His credibility has just gone down the toilet.

[showmemoblues]

@ccheng21 simple simon enough with the dribble of the darwin crowd with fake climate change and because you believe you are a monkey which is easy to see with your dribble and wanna be theories no matter what the missing link will not be found and God created you and will put you in a place where you will enjoy being with like minded monkeys in a one way trip to hell but hey just ask for Jesus and accept him and guess what he will forgive you.

[ccheng21]

@showmemoblues there is no god, there was no jesus. You all just made them up.

Science relies on evidence, people accept the theory of evolution because there is evidence.

No evidence for any god exists, and unlikely there ever will be.

[oreolvrs]

yes Darkwing and he treied to sneak in anti-Peter joseph comments etc. in there.(NB im not a TZM member rather a RBEF member so PJ is a jackass) but letting his own personal bias in this presentation was a big blow to his credibility

[KevZen2000]

NWO is mainly the securization and New Dark Age of the world via false utopia as described Zeitgeist Addedum led by the Jesuit Order.

[KevZen2000]

If these aliens(as described by ufologist) are real, they certain meet the criteria of the bible.What it seems,that they have a malilcious agenda.Aliens are part of the bait to get people accept the Jesuit NWO.

[Jerimiah10]

About the rapture. Its simple, the apostles asked Jesus about the end of the world, He gave an exact play by play of the events, and when everything is done, The TARES ARE GATHERED AND BURNED< THEN THE WHEAT IS HARVESTED INTO THE BARN. As far as I am concerned, he couldn't have ended the debate any clearer, that is if you think Jesus is lord!

[5to22a]

Jesus is lord and God almighty has given Chris White a sharp sword to sever the lies from the truth.

[walkertonkidd]

Thanks Chris - for everything. I think you have very good ideas about the future scenario. I wonder if things will become more apparent for Christians as the time approaches?

[Uaz31]

The end is not 2012...

According to the Bible the rapture will be on May 21, 2011. Watch video I uploaded today and check out familyradio dott comm for details on the Bibical timeline.

[scutter4christ]

Uaz31 - that is incorrect. The rapture will not occur on that date. Please do not be deceived. That is a false teaching.

[Uaz31]

Actually no its not a false teaching...please do your research before making assumptions.

All this information is from the Bible and nowhere else.

[scutter4christ]

Well, I won't argue with you here on YT, but I pray, for your sake that your heart isn't broken when the rapture doesn't occur BEFORE the tribulation period. Christians alive will indeed have to go through the trib.

I understand your zeal for your belief because I was there once myself. But God taught me better and opened my eyes to the truth of the matter. I hope He will do the same for you.

[Knowwheretorun1984]

see my video: "another crazy rapture theory"

[Uaz31]

We ARE in the tribulation period. Its a 23 year tribulation that started in 1988 and ends on Oct 21, 2011.

Its divided into 2 parts, the last part starts on May 21, 2011 the day of the rapture and goes for 153 days (5 months) until Oct 21, 2011.

These last 5 months will be a literal Hell on Earth for those who are still alive and must endure.

[scutter4christ]

well, again, this is not the place to debate that, but you are sadly misinformed. That is not scriptural.

[Uaz31]

Actually yes, it is nothing but scriptural. You should actually do your homework before making such accusations, your talking about the word of God.

[showmemoblues]

@Uaz31 your threats carry no weight as you are far from being holy but we can say look a deceiver a faker a wolf in sheeps clothes who is here to make Christians look silly as you.

[showmemoblues]

@Uaz31 such a faker the bible does not give dates as it is clearly stated no one will no the time or place but GOD himself and you are far from being god just another faker wanna be who preaches like the fake churches now.

[paddymourinho]

You have got David Icke completely wrong. He doesnt bash Christianity, he just doesnt believe it.

[Knowwheretorun1984]

Im afraid you might have some rose colored glasses on with him.

I used to as well, I have read many of his books and seen his presentations online.

He is more subtle but its no different and in fact more potent than those who are less subtle.

[paddymourinho]

No I assure you that I do not. I went off Tsarion/ Maxwell/ Icke etc. after I saw that they were liars.

But having re-engaged with Icke, I see that he does NOT push the 2012 idea, and while I do not agree with everything he sayes, I do believe that he thinks he is telling the truth and is doing his best.

But because he doesnt believe nessesarily in Jesus, hes evil right? Wrong...

[Knowwheretorun1984]

you said bash christianity (which he does) but now your talking about 2012, how should I interpret this from him exactly: watch?v=mjkuLiyPIhQ

[Arthemesic]

@paddymourinho

He believes in reptilians. That's enough to dissipate any faith I had in his words.

[romans617]

@paddymourinho what? David Icke ?? You're kidding right?? He is a scam artist and definately a nut! A chieft nut from a whole bunch of coconuts! If you allow any changing in your mind through this spirtual enlightment load of crap you are going to be in big trouble and possibly even doomed forever. Don't risk your Beautiful life that God gave you on this nonsense. I pray in Jesus name that God will call you to himself and for your salvation. Peace to you and Jesus bless you with truth! In Christ

[paddymourinho]

@romans617 christians are ridiculous :). there is more evidence for aliens than there is for jesus. and there is evidence everywhere showing that christianity is a hybrid of much older religions and myths. Also if you want proof that there is not a perfect creater, take your head out of your ass and have a little look at the world, and if you say "the devil did it" then I recommend a long, relaxing stay at a funny farm baby :)

[sparkshot]

I think your about right, I think aliens are nephilim or demons etc

[OohTheHorror]

The Mahdi is the antichrist and isa (the muslim jesus) is the fake jesus. Well thats the best idea I've heard so far and its backed up pretty well by the scriptures.

[tha2hander]

Is your hat a beanie or a 10 gallon cowboy hat? lol. good vid.

[empyah]

Icke,

here, is not refering to the year 2012, as to be something supernatural - he is simply stating the fact that people ARE being "enlightened"

(as far as knowledge about the NWO agenda and the nature of reality goes ) in a metaphoric way...

He even stated that 2012 is a hoax to further the NWO agenda...

[dsgolp]

empyah, as long as you follow a guru you will never be truly enlightened, ICKE is a part of the establishment and you are hypnotised...........WAKEY WAKEY.

[empyah]

Ehm...

You got me wrong there...

No offence, but you do not seem too enlightened to me either... ^^

I do not follow anyone (especially no guru), i was just tryin to point out a misconception nowhertorun1984 has about this particular area refering Ickes "teachings"..........WAKEY WAKEY

Oh yes, and please people, i will bite someones head of if he mentions WAKING UP in any form again ! God, please its so annoying...

No offence ! Peace!

[thecosmichippo]

Part of what establishment? The NWO? i don't think so -- Chris is on the money here, Icke is merely deceived by Nephillim.

[AusUFOVideo]

From aroid 8:50 to 9:00 the audio stops. Great series by the way. You have a very straightforward and intelligent way of presenting things.