After Gene died they really screwed up TNG but that could be forgiven since they still put out some good episodes but they killed Data & that can never be forgiven.
I know a lot of people don't like the JJ Abrams reboot, but I LOVE the fact that the framing story set in 2387 (the comic series released with the movie) has Data resurrected and in command of the Enterprise.
Data thinks out of the box and plans ahead based on all available information, usually leaving his crew puzzled, but then again, since he is an android, there's every likelihood that when he does that they think he's malfunctioning and try to shut him down. Poor Data!
Brent Spiner did an excellent job here. Command offers many new challenges than he is used to. He was great in showing how the "new" level of responsibility was to him. It seemed like he was 25% unsure of himself at every step, exactly how anyone new to command would feel. You have to give it to him, he's a great actor.
Brent Spiner did an excellent job here. Command offers many new challenges than he is used to. He was great in showing how the "new" level of responsibility was to him. It seemed like he was 25% unsure of himself at every step, exactly how anyone new to command would feel. You have to give it to him, he's a great actor.
actually, data made a huge mistake. phasers dont work at warp speed due to the fact that nadion particles can only travel at the speed of light. the appropriate weapon would have been torpedoes
@Idazmi7 i might add that the use of phasers in warp has been inconsistent since it wasnt until the late 24th century that the technology to even make it possible was even on the drawing boards, much less a reality as stated at the memory alpha website. the consistentcy of this tecnology has been full of holes through almost every season. enterprise used phase cannons and hand phasers before they were even invented.
@texanmarauder Actually, the spacs were written by Gene R for TOS:
"The hand weapons, called Phasers, emit a beam of energy similar to light, which can be adjusted in wavelength, pulsated or phased to interfere or interact with molecular structures. They also have a wide variety of settings, and can be used as welders or similar hand tools."
@ponquinful Well, I thought they rationalized that by saying that "warp" actually doesn't break relativity because you're riding a contained ripple in space-time. Which actually could mean that if you're not actually MOVING at lightspeed then you might be able to fire weapons at the same time without breaking special relativity. I was just correcting that Texan guy on a misunderstand of the principle of SR thinking that any known object breaks special relativity.
@texanmarauder it was my understanding that warp speed involved bending space to make travel more efficient; the ship is only moving above C relative to un-warped space, such that phaser fire between two objects in warp would still overtake either target.
@texanmarauder this is science FICTION, their are a ridiculous amount of mistakes in this show and almost every sci fi show, just enjoy it and dont try to go too deep into it
@texanmarauder Actually, Warp Speed theory states that the ship itself isn't traveling beyond light speed, the space around them is. Since the phasers would be within the warp bubble, they should work just fine.
really? could swear i've seen them used at warp, dark frontier (voyager) comes to mind, the delta flyer uses phasers back at TRANSWARP against a borg sphere heading back to voyager...
@goodwolf359 Wow. Cant believe I know this... Warp drive is initiated by creating a bubble in subspace hence, a warp field, around the ship. They travel through normal space, just in this bubble. Transwarp is hyperspeed travel through conduits, big pipes in a sense. Subspace fields are not needed and they (D.F. and Borg)_were both in the conduit and could fire upon each other :) Nerd status FTW!
Fairly obvious that I went back to actually check this with the timestamp, wasn't going to risk my eternal damnation on youtube by being wrong and arguing over this considering how hardcore star trek fans can be lol...
@texanmarauder It's still relevant to have phasers locked and be within phaser range at warp, even though one may not fire at warp. They can maintain the lock and range once the vessel drops out of warp.
@texanmarauder Didnt they fire phasers at warp later in the 24th century by surrounding the beam with a confinement field? or was this too early in time
Star Trek Enterprise, season 2 episode 16 future tense at 30:55
Enterprise uses phasers back at suliban. AT WARP ~ 5 (not exactly specified)
And yes they are phasers from the fact that they refer to the standard issue rifles in that series as "phaser" rifles. and the cannons on the exterior of the ship use the same technology
@texanmarauder Because, you know, they fire TORPEDOES at FTL too. Right? That's the only way they would "work".
Actually though, phasers are direct fire. If they're in range, that means that either the firing vessel has passed or pulled alongside the target. Photons are projectile, which means that to hit from any angle other in front of the ship, the torpedoes have to be going FASTER than the target to catch up.
@texanmarauder you are correct, but, there is indeed a phaser range, and with the captain and commander both hostage a photon at warp would risk destroying the ship. true he would have to manoeuvre the galaxy class starship almost ontop of the ship they are chasing but at a min range the phasers are still effective. had to pull out the old startrek encyclopaedia for that one.
@texanmarauder I hate to argue, especially since my knowledge of Star Trek lore is weak at best, but relativistic speeds, and thus relativistic mechanics, means that phasers should be possible to use when travelling at warp.
@texanmarauder Well if you think about it, you shouldn't be able to walk around a starship while going at faster-than-light speeds. If you were facing the same direction as the ship, you wouldn't see anything if you looked behind you, since the light from the objects behind you would have to travel faster than light. Plus, who knows the detrimental effects warp travel has on humans...
@DJDelta0 the whole point of Star Trek allowing faster than light travel is that they are creating a massless subspace bubble around the ship hence allowing them to essentially break relativistic parameters of light speed. They are basically breaking the "laws" of physics because they are literally warping spacetime (hence why they refer to it as warping). It effectively is a 'folding space' engine.
You could consider it as a sort of "midway" attempt to create Wormholes directly.
@DJDelta0 did you know that humans used to believe that if they traveled faster then 50 miles per hour they would explode? silly right? we now go 10x that speed in planes everyday (collectively and sometimes individually.) i doubt it will be as bad as you think. and you also have to remember that when you are in a moving car, inertia keeps everything in the car within the car. i'm sure the same thing would happen to light and objects inside the ship.
This is good, but you need to add part 2. I thought that Data's conversation with Worf in the Ready Room was the best example of "Data makes a fine (Captain)".
Damn.... I forgot I was just watching a clip and not the actual episodes... I was left wondering what happens next!
strato172 3 hours ago
What! To be continued?! What happens next?!
ctchampagne 8 hours ago
light speed ? its a tv programe
bogonogy 2 days ago
After Gene died they really screwed up TNG but that could be forgiven since they still put out some good episodes but they killed Data & that can never be forgiven.
KenMacMillan 1 week ago 2
What episode is this from?
TheNani680 1 week ago
data (b4) will be captain of the 1701-e after picard was promoted to admiral
untill the big E was decomissioned and a enterprise-F was launched
sanderrodijk 1 week ago
Data is a great captain, but I'd keep him at ops if it spares us from ensign wooden-acting over there. Sheesh.
mushroomshrub 1 week ago
wat u doing mr data???
KingGalby 1 week ago
I do love Data's 'don't fuck with me' face!
LUNATIC75 2 weeks ago
what season and episode is this?
ufailrobloxguy 3 weeks ago
Thats one of the Cosby kids at the helm! lol.
yaahyak 3 weeks ago
1:45 is the ops officer Wil Wheaton in drag?
VelocityTheory 3 weeks ago
I know a lot of people don't like the JJ Abrams reboot, but I LOVE the fact that the framing story set in 2387 (the comic series released with the movie) has Data resurrected and in command of the Enterprise.
ascend501 3 weeks ago
Data thinks out of the box and plans ahead based on all available information, usually leaving his crew puzzled, but then again, since he is an android, there's every likelihood that when he does that they think he's malfunctioning and try to shut him down. Poor Data!
Foebane72 3 weeks ago
yeah same, Data is awesome :p
goodwolf359 4 weeks ago
i love him
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Brent Spiner did an excellent job here. Command offers many new challenges than he is used to. He was great in showing how the "new" level of responsibility was to him. It seemed like he was 25% unsure of himself at every step, exactly how anyone new to command would feel. You have to give it to him, he's a great actor.
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Brent Spiner did an excellent job here. Command offers many new challenges than he is used to. He was great in showing how the "new" level of responsibility was to him. It seemed like he was 25% unsure of himself at every step, exactly how anyone new to command would feel. You have to give it to him, he's a great actor.
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cichlid16 1 month ago
Not even kidding, I'd get on my knees and lick Troi's boots.
BarryDennen12 1 month ago
@BarryDennen12 You can have her boots. I'll take the rest.
CabhanListis 1 month ago 3
Hey wait nooooo
BarryDennen12 1 month ago
0:50 Sondra Huxtable? I thought she went to Princeton University, not Starfleet Academy.
OrionSyndicate 1 month ago 2
@OrionSyndicate I noticed too when it orginally aired on TV in the 90s! LOL That surely is the eldest Huxtable child manning the ops station !! LOL
yellabro07 1 month ago
Can't believe I never noticed this after all these years. But the bridge of the mercenary ship is just a re-dress of the Enterprise battle bridge.
Jerkwad152 1 month ago
@Jerkwad152 It's a good re-dress because I didn't notice either!
gianderosa1990 1 month ago
Wait what? Hold on, is that...
It is! It's Sondra Huxtable from the Cosby show!
Ruach 1 month ago 3
actually, data made a huge mistake. phasers dont work at warp speed due to the fact that nadion particles can only travel at the speed of light. the appropriate weapon would have been torpedoes
texanmarauder 2 months ago 33
@texanmarauder NERD!!!!!
MathieuLJohnson 1 month ago
@texanmarauder Kirk consistently used phasers at warp 4.
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 i might add that the use of phasers in warp has been inconsistent since it wasnt until the late 24th century that the technology to even make it possible was even on the drawing boards, much less a reality as stated at the memory alpha website. the consistentcy of this tecnology has been full of holes through almost every season. enterprise used phase cannons and hand phasers before they were even invented.
texanmarauder 1 month ago
@Idazmi7 not only that, but when TOS was written, most of the specs for phasers hadnt been written yet.
texanmarauder 1 month ago
@texanmarauder Actually, the spacs were written by Gene R for TOS:
"The hand weapons, called Phasers, emit a beam of energy similar to light, which can be adjusted in wavelength, pulsated or phased to interfere or interact with molecular structures. They also have a wide variety of settings, and can be used as welders or similar hand tools."
-Gene Roddenberry, the Making of Star Trek
Idazmi7 1 month ago
@texanmarauder Nothing can travel faster than light. And don't bring up neutrinos, cause that data is debatable.
EJNewbury 1 month ago
@EJNewbury True. Nothing can go the speed of light. HOWEVER, you CAN go 8 times the speed of light. At that speed you can escape all logic.
ponquinful 1 month ago
@ponquinful Well, I thought they rationalized that by saying that "warp" actually doesn't break relativity because you're riding a contained ripple in space-time. Which actually could mean that if you're not actually MOVING at lightspeed then you might be able to fire weapons at the same time without breaking special relativity. I was just correcting that Texan guy on a misunderstand of the principle of SR thinking that any known object breaks special relativity.
EJNewbury 1 month ago
@texanmarauder it was my understanding that warp speed involved bending space to make travel more efficient; the ship is only moving above C relative to un-warped space, such that phaser fire between two objects in warp would still overtake either target.
ShrougerNite 1 month ago
@texanmarauder this is science FICTION, their are a ridiculous amount of mistakes in this show and almost every sci fi show, just enjoy it and dont try to go too deep into it
Spartan627 1 month ago
@Spartan627 Holy crap. Finally, someone who knows how to spell "ridiculous!"
williamskidfears 1 month ago
@texanmarauder Actually, Warp Speed theory states that the ship itself isn't traveling beyond light speed, the space around them is. Since the phasers would be within the warp bubble, they should work just fine.
JustinCredibleTV 1 month ago
@JustinCredibleTV
True, but once they pass through the warp bubble, they'd just fizzle out.
Jerkwad152 1 month ago
@Jerkwad152 The warp bubble extends for at least hundreds of meters. I don't see that as an issue.
JustinCredibleTV 1 month ago
@JustinCredibleTV
Yes, but at some point, they have to leave the Enteprise's bubble in order to enter the bubble of the other ship.
Jerkwad152 1 month ago
@texanmarauder
really? could swear i've seen them used at warp, dark frontier (voyager) comes to mind, the delta flyer uses phasers back at TRANSWARP against a borg sphere heading back to voyager...
goodwolf359 1 month ago
@goodwolf359 AFAIK, transwarp works very differently from warp drive.
venusbrain 1 month ago
@goodwolf359 Wow. Cant believe I know this... Warp drive is initiated by creating a bubble in subspace hence, a warp field, around the ship. They travel through normal space, just in this bubble. Transwarp is hyperspeed travel through conduits, big pipes in a sense. Subspace fields are not needed and they (D.F. and Borg)_were both in the conduit and could fire upon each other :) Nerd status FTW!
rivbro91 4 weeks ago
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goodwolf359 4 weeks ago
@rivbro91
Star Trek Enterprise, season 2 episode 16 future tense at 30:55
Enterprise uses phasers back at suliban. AT WARP 5
I knew it lol
actually caught in the act.
1000 lashes from nerds.
btw why would they script data to say that if it was BS anyway :L
goodwolf359 4 weeks ago
@goodwolf359 You got me! Damn! I was just going off of what I knew personally. I need to re up.
rivbro91 3 weeks ago
@rivbro91
Fairly obvious that I went back to actually check this with the timestamp, wasn't going to risk my eternal damnation on youtube by being wrong and arguing over this considering how hardcore star trek fans can be lol...
goodwolf359 3 weeks ago
@goodwolf359 Yeah. It's insane how serious everyone is taking this. That's what I love about Trek!
rivbro91 3 weeks ago
@texanmarauder It's still relevant to have phasers locked and be within phaser range at warp, even though one may not fire at warp. They can maintain the lock and range once the vessel drops out of warp.
marktrade88 4 weeks ago
@texanmarauder Didnt they fire phasers at warp later in the 24th century by surrounding the beam with a confinement field? or was this too early in time
ThatsMrFrank 3 weeks ago
@texanmarauder
aahhh yes Phasers do work at warp.
Star Trek Enterprise, season 2 episode 16 future tense at 30:55
Enterprise uses phasers back at suliban. AT WARP ~ 5 (not exactly specified)
And yes they are phasers from the fact that they refer to the standard issue rifles in that series as "phaser" rifles. and the cannons on the exterior of the ship use the same technology
goodwolf359 3 weeks ago
@texanmarauder The appropriate weapon is ALWAYS torpedoes!
rivbro91 3 weeks ago
@texanmarauder Because, you know, they fire TORPEDOES at FTL too. Right? That's the only way they would "work".
Actually though, phasers are direct fire. If they're in range, that means that either the firing vessel has passed or pulled alongside the target. Photons are projectile, which means that to hit from any angle other in front of the ship, the torpedoes have to be going FASTER than the target to catch up.
Just sayin'.
tkardaishou 3 weeks ago
@texanmarauder but if they are faster than the ship and pulled up next to it could they not broadside them with phasers?
rphinks 3 weeks ago
@texanmarauder True, but perhaps he had a plan to force the ship out of warp, then use phasers to disable it.
majormagna 2 weeks ago
@texanmarauder Too true; same issue was brought up in the Motion Picture
RobbCowanHTAL 2 weeks ago
@texanmarauder you are correct, but, there is indeed a phaser range, and with the captain and commander both hostage a photon at warp would risk destroying the ship. true he would have to manoeuvre the galaxy class starship almost ontop of the ship they are chasing but at a min range the phasers are still effective. had to pull out the old startrek encyclopaedia for that one.
xerodegree 2 weeks ago
@texanmarauder I hate to argue, especially since my knowledge of Star Trek lore is weak at best, but relativistic speeds, and thus relativistic mechanics, means that phasers should be possible to use when travelling at warp.
callumdoyle2 2 weeks ago
@texanmarauder Well if you think about it, you shouldn't be able to walk around a starship while going at faster-than-light speeds. If you were facing the same direction as the ship, you wouldn't see anything if you looked behind you, since the light from the objects behind you would have to travel faster than light. Plus, who knows the detrimental effects warp travel has on humans...
DJDelta0 2 weeks ago
@DJDelta0 the whole point of Star Trek allowing faster than light travel is that they are creating a massless subspace bubble around the ship hence allowing them to essentially break relativistic parameters of light speed. They are basically breaking the "laws" of physics because they are literally warping spacetime (hence why they refer to it as warping). It effectively is a 'folding space' engine.
You could consider it as a sort of "midway" attempt to create Wormholes directly.
OkamsRazer 1 week ago
@DJDelta0 did you know that humans used to believe that if they traveled faster then 50 miles per hour they would explode? silly right? we now go 10x that speed in planes everyday (collectively and sometimes individually.) i doubt it will be as bad as you think. and you also have to remember that when you are in a moving car, inertia keeps everything in the car within the car. i'm sure the same thing would happen to light and objects inside the ship.
PopFlyGov 1 week ago
It's Sondra from "The Cosby Show".
cyclopstb 2 months ago
This is good, but you need to add part 2. I thought that Data's conversation with Worf in the Ready Room was the best example of "Data makes a fine (Captain)".
CALQL8R 6 months ago 23
@CALQL8R "Mr. Worf. I hope I have not ended our friendship."
pavelb1 3 weeks ago