i go through periods of hating and loving river song and going back and looking at this character knowing all that i do about her i can say that this one of most clever creations i've ever seen on tv ever, it's an absolute genius creation of steven Moffat, besides the doctor one of the more interesting characters on the show at the moment
If anyone is confused, know that Donna while she was being teleported was transferred as data into the harddrive of the library, generating a digital world for her. All the people that were killed by the shadows, if they were ghosting, the library picked up their signal and transferred them just like Donna, into the digital world. The swarms came in larger quantities because they came from the books, and from the wood used to make the paper.
@TheInspectorwho Wibbly wobbly timey wimey, he has that screwdriver because she gives it to him, she had it because he gave it to her. Its a logic cycle.
O.k. I have to admit that River song is amazing character but she really looks better with Tennant than with Smith. I think that 12th doctor should be older like David again.
@Flubberwood That is SO what I was thinking!!!! Yikes! But no, I don't really believe it... I don't think she kills the Doctor. It will be ever so interesting to see how the River character plays out over time, though. Weapon? Companion? WHAT??? Want. To. Know. Now! :D
if i get one more comment saying "the majority of fans" i may actually freak out. if you were a fan you would respect how the writers have written and how the casting people cast. OBVIOUSLY alex kingston has ALOT of talent with acting and tbf i think shes pretty sexy, so maybe you should stop speaking for other people and say "IN MY OPINION" not in "doctor who fans opinion" it sounds to me like you should stop watching this programme because you don't see, like a true fan to me...
@Retrofire28 Your entitled to your opinion but the two of them leave the majority of us cold. There is ZERO chemistry. They look like crap together. Like mother and son. And my brother is 27, straight and he likes curvy women like Halle Berry, Demi Moore, Jennifer Lopez, Kim Kardasian, Beyonce, but he does not find fat cows like Alex attractive. Nor do any of his friends. Nor do any of my male friends including my husband. Everytime she tries to act sexy she looks ridiculous. She makes me laugh
@sallyjosie Yeah well at least Alex is a good actress and she actually has talent? If they got some really pretty, sexy looking woman on but she couldn't act for shit... that would just be awful. I think Alex is perfect for the role of river. You just can't guess who she is at a first glance. xx
@sallyjosie The show is not about finding the most attractive characters, its about a time travelling alien! How you're presenting yourself in your comments about her makes you one of the ugliest people I've ever encountered! I just can't get my head around people like you, you're not even sane enough to hold an intelligent discussion about it because your logic has flown completely out the window! And that WAS meant to offend!
@GraceUnderPressure1 In Television looks do matter. I'm sorry if reality is too advanced for some people to wrap their puny heads around certain facts. But there's no need to fear as last nights episode made it pretty clear that she IS NOT HIS WIFE!! Thank goodness. I'm sure half-wits will still be insisting otherwise but I can't help people who refuse to use their God-given brains.
@sallyjosie Who are you to be trashing people who disagree with you? Everyone I know likes river song, and none of them are the type of fans that take the polls that you are talking about, as the people who take them are people who like trashing the show and say they're "fans". The "majority" you are talking about is not the majority of all fans. Stop calling people stupid and look at yourself and what everyones saying! Your entitled to your own opinion but dont preach it like it's the truth.
@sallyjosie You speak like typical trailer trash. Not that you aren't entitled to your own opinion of course - it always makes me laugh when I come across a fool claiming the 'majority' of people think as they do, or that they even have the slightest grasp of statistics.
The only thing you've achieved here is to make yourself sound like an imbecile.
i'm going to politely ask that people not claim that "most" fans like or dislike anything. You don't fucking know that, and any polls you read are pathetically incorrect. I'm a Doctor Who fan and i've NEVER taken a fucking poll for anything on the show. So please, when you have an opinion speak for yourself. NOT ME.
Not to mention Alex has ZERO chemistry with David or Matt. But I guess little things like facts and reality aren't going to stop an egotistical maniac like moffat. Seriously, every scene she has ever had with them leaves me and most fans cold. There is nothing but annoyance whenever she is around. She adds nothing positive to the show. moffat has screwed up big time but I doubt anyone can stop him. Even a million fan letters wouldn't get him to change his mind. He is obsessed with this crap!
@sallyjosie I SO disagree with you. I think River's character has added a great deal to the show, and that it was a brilliant move by Moffat. Further, I think Alex Kingston in as excellent actress and has played the role beautifully. That's MY opinion. You, however, are welcome to your own opinion.
Ugh! It may turn out that the Vile River is going to have been married to the poor dr after all. Makes me wonder why moffat hates the dr so much? What did that fictional character ever do to him? Of course even if she is Idris the Dr's wife from Gallifrey that marriage disovled when she died. Period! So for moffat to write this crap like she is some "great character" when most fans find her a pain in the arse is beyond pathetic! She is not a good match for the Dr by any strectch. She sucks!
She is always lying her butt off. She is not his wife. And she is most likely referring to Omega (The Time Lord) when she says in Time of the Angels that she killed the greatest man she ever knew. Thats what Counselor Hedin called Omega in Arc of Infinity. And its possible that the Valeyard might also be involved with the silence. Since the villians all say the Dr is responsible and the Valeyard and the Dr share the same DNA, well. River Song was/is a very evil woman.
@sallyjosie I actually got that impression, too. The guy who had her prisoner had said "You don't know who, or WHAT, she is, and if you find out, she's afraid you won't like it" or something like that.
@ChaosTheory0 I remember that bit. And I think he said something like that to River too. But she didn't want the Doctor to find out who she was.....yet! That doesn't sound like someone the Doctor will ""trust" someday. Sounds like someone the Doctor would do well to avoid like the plague. And when Amy said point blank "your the Dr's wife" river said "thats good, but not accurate". Sounds like the Valeyard! If she's married to the Valeyard then technically she is married to 1 aspect of the Dr.
@ChaosTheory0 Now wouldn't that be way more entertaining? I'm not kidding. I guess I wouldn't mind if she were the Rani BUT moffat has said NO CLASSIC VILLIANS would be returning to Dr Who this season. Of course he could be lying his butt off. Maybe she's IS the Valeyard in another incarnation. I know some people have pooh-poohed the idea but think about it. she's not afraid to kill anybody. She acts like a man most of the time. AND it would explain how she knows the Dr's real name. Maybe the
@sallyjosie Valeyard repents at some point in the future. Though frankly, I hate the villian has a change of heart and becomes a really good and trusted friend syndrome. I saw it done to death on a Japanese Cartoon years ago. The first time, Okay, it was kind of cool. But then villian after villian.... It got to be too much. So you'll forgive me if I find that idea a little cliched. I hope she isn't his wife and that she is someone the Dr WON'T trust in the future. That would be awesome!
@sallyjosie AND, the Daleks had her on record! In the Big Bang, when that Dalek shot the Doctor, Riversong confronts it and the Dalek says "You are an associate of the Doctors and will show mercy" or whatever and she says "I'm Riversong. Check your records agian." And the Dalek begged for mercy.
@ChaosTheory0 Oh, I half remembered the interchange between river and the Dalek. But I didn't really pay close attention as I do not pay much attention to that character whenever she comes on screen. lol And if someone were to be the Doctors wife it should be someone that most of the fans actually like. according to one online poll 52% of the fans say that can't stand river song. That's probably a good indicator. She would suck as his wife. She is a nag and a hag. The Dr can easily do better.
@LadyHeathersLair Actually I DO want the Doctor to be married. But to a Time Lady like Romana. Not river song. Actually I read on the facebook page that river song might actually turn out to be a (probably spelt wrong) manisfestation of the Tardis. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. So long as the Dr doesn't have sex with her. That would be creepy even if she looked like Miss Universe. It would be like a guy wanting to have sex with his car. Yuck! And NO I don't want to marry a make believe character..
@sallyjosie I am happily married (for more then 20 yrs) to a REAL PERSON. lol And we have 3 kids. Yeah, I don't think a person can have real kids with a make-believe person. That would be something straight out of the Twilight Zone. Oh and if you read something that comes across as offensive on other posts.....Please know I don't mean to insult ANYONE except for a select few. lol I really don't. Sometimes my temper gets ahead of my brain. So I apologise in advance to any British fan offended.
Darned bbc copyright can't see what happened in part 1 :(
TheXeno2000 3 weeks ago
"He hasn't met me yet!" Just a simple case of Wibbly Wobbly Timey Whimey...stuff.
ENTERtheCREATOR 1 month ago 4
1:57 oh Moffet
Spartanz1170 1 month ago
1:56 *ahem*
amz399 4 months ago in playlist Doctor Who: Silence in the Library - Forest of the Dead
i go through periods of hating and loving river song and going back and looking at this character knowing all that i do about her i can say that this one of most clever creations i've ever seen on tv ever, it's an absolute genius creation of steven Moffat, besides the doctor one of the more interesting characters on the show at the moment
AidansVlog 6 months ago 5
If anyone is confused, know that Donna while she was being teleported was transferred as data into the harddrive of the library, generating a digital world for her. All the people that were killed by the shadows, if they were ghosting, the library picked up their signal and transferred them just like Donna, into the digital world. The swarms came in larger quantities because they came from the books, and from the wood used to make the paper.
MrLamaj123 6 months ago 2
david tennet is my stepdad mate they went to sckool togther
legocambot 6 months ago
I think the doctor keeps her screwdriver so that he can give it to her later
TheInspectorwho 6 months ago
@TheInspectorwho Wibbly wobbly timey wimey, he has that screwdriver because she gives it to him, she had it because he gave it to her. Its a logic cycle.
JaceValm 6 months ago
O.k. I have to admit that River song is amazing character but she really looks better with Tennant than with Smith. I think that 12th doctor should be older like David again.
yinloveyang 7 months ago 2
@yinloveyang And I think that I can have my opinion.
yinloveyang 7 months ago
"I didn't pluck it from a cold dead hand if that's what you're worried about"
spooky watching this just after the let's kill hitler teaser...
Flubberwood 8 months ago in playlist Doctor Who: Silence in the Library - Forest of the Dead 3
@Flubberwood That is SO what I was thinking!!!! Yikes! But no, I don't really believe it... I don't think she kills the Doctor. It will be ever so interesting to see how the River character plays out over time, though. Weapon? Companion? WHAT??? Want. To. Know. Now! :D
quietbynature 8 months ago
if i get one more comment saying "the majority of fans" i may actually freak out. if you were a fan you would respect how the writers have written and how the casting people cast. OBVIOUSLY alex kingston has ALOT of talent with acting and tbf i think shes pretty sexy, so maybe you should stop speaking for other people and say "IN MY OPINION" not in "doctor who fans opinion" it sounds to me like you should stop watching this programme because you don't see, like a true fan to me...
12lexie12 8 months ago
@Retrofire28 Your entitled to your opinion but the two of them leave the majority of us cold. There is ZERO chemistry. They look like crap together. Like mother and son. And my brother is 27, straight and he likes curvy women like Halle Berry, Demi Moore, Jennifer Lopez, Kim Kardasian, Beyonce, but he does not find fat cows like Alex attractive. Nor do any of his friends. Nor do any of my male friends including my husband. Everytime she tries to act sexy she looks ridiculous. She makes me laugh
sallyjosie 10 months ago
@sallyjosie Yeah well at least Alex is a good actress and she actually has talent? If they got some really pretty, sexy looking woman on but she couldn't act for shit... that would just be awful. I think Alex is perfect for the role of river. You just can't guess who she is at a first glance. xx
martha368 10 months ago 3
@sallyjosie The show is not about finding the most attractive characters, its about a time travelling alien! How you're presenting yourself in your comments about her makes you one of the ugliest people I've ever encountered! I just can't get my head around people like you, you're not even sane enough to hold an intelligent discussion about it because your logic has flown completely out the window! And that WAS meant to offend!
GraceUnderPressure1 10 months ago
@GraceUnderPressure1 In Television looks do matter. I'm sorry if reality is too advanced for some people to wrap their puny heads around certain facts. But there's no need to fear as last nights episode made it pretty clear that she IS NOT HIS WIFE!! Thank goodness. I'm sure half-wits will still be insisting otherwise but I can't help people who refuse to use their God-given brains.
sallyjosie 10 months ago
@sallyjosie Who are you to be trashing people who disagree with you? Everyone I know likes river song, and none of them are the type of fans that take the polls that you are talking about, as the people who take them are people who like trashing the show and say they're "fans". The "majority" you are talking about is not the majority of all fans. Stop calling people stupid and look at yourself and what everyones saying! Your entitled to your own opinion but dont preach it like it's the truth.
rightydoctor 9 months ago
@sallyjosie You speak like typical trailer trash. Not that you aren't entitled to your own opinion of course - it always makes me laugh when I come across a fool claiming the 'majority' of people think as they do, or that they even have the slightest grasp of statistics.
The only thing you've achieved here is to make yourself sound like an imbecile.
BoinyBunny 10 months ago 3
Classic episode. Looking forward to finally finding out who River is. Hope the pay-off will be worth it.
P.S. Still missing Donna.
MrDCWood 10 months ago
Awesome two-parter introducing an awesome character. Thanks for posting this!
elligain 10 months ago
i'm going to politely ask that people not claim that "most" fans like or dislike anything. You don't fucking know that, and any polls you read are pathetically incorrect. I'm a Doctor Who fan and i've NEVER taken a fucking poll for anything on the show. So please, when you have an opinion speak for yourself. NOT ME.
Ch6lsea 10 months ago 6
@Ch6lsea I wish I could "like" this reply more than once because it is TRU FAX.
SaraSG1 10 months ago
Not to mention Alex has ZERO chemistry with David or Matt. But I guess little things like facts and reality aren't going to stop an egotistical maniac like moffat. Seriously, every scene she has ever had with them leaves me and most fans cold. There is nothing but annoyance whenever she is around. She adds nothing positive to the show. moffat has screwed up big time but I doubt anyone can stop him. Even a million fan letters wouldn't get him to change his mind. He is obsessed with this crap!
sallyjosie 11 months ago
@sallyjosie You, my dear, sound like a embittered fangirl.
Emgee78 8 months ago
@sallyjosie I SO disagree with you. I think River's character has added a great deal to the show, and that it was a brilliant move by Moffat. Further, I think Alex Kingston in as excellent actress and has played the role beautifully. That's MY opinion. You, however, are welcome to your own opinion.
quietbynature 8 months ago 3
Ugh! It may turn out that the Vile River is going to have been married to the poor dr after all. Makes me wonder why moffat hates the dr so much? What did that fictional character ever do to him? Of course even if she is Idris the Dr's wife from Gallifrey that marriage disovled when she died. Period! So for moffat to write this crap like she is some "great character" when most fans find her a pain in the arse is beyond pathetic! She is not a good match for the Dr by any strectch. She sucks!
sallyjosie 11 months ago
1:24 That was so a snatch of Bad Wolf music!!!!
Reader4077 1 year ago
@Reader4077 its not bad wolf music, its the doctor's theme, it was just used a lot during the bad wolf story in series 1
jhibbitt1 10 months ago
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"Well... use the red settings."
"It doesn't have a red setting."
"Well use the dampers."
"It doesn't have dampers."
"It will do one day." *pulls out tricked-out sonic screw-driver*
Now you're just showing off River.
SakuraX7 1 year ago
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SakuraX7 1 year ago
When in doubt, ask for chicken...
Pineapple2141 1 year ago
She is always lying her butt off. She is not his wife. And she is most likely referring to Omega (The Time Lord) when she says in Time of the Angels that she killed the greatest man she ever knew. Thats what Counselor Hedin called Omega in Arc of Infinity. And its possible that the Valeyard might also be involved with the silence. Since the villians all say the Dr is responsible and the Valeyard and the Dr share the same DNA, well. River Song was/is a very evil woman.
sallyjosie 1 year ago
@sallyjosie I actually got that impression, too. The guy who had her prisoner had said "You don't know who, or WHAT, she is, and if you find out, she's afraid you won't like it" or something like that.
ChaosTheory0 1 year ago
@ChaosTheory0 I remember that bit. And I think he said something like that to River too. But she didn't want the Doctor to find out who she was.....yet! That doesn't sound like someone the Doctor will ""trust" someday. Sounds like someone the Doctor would do well to avoid like the plague. And when Amy said point blank "your the Dr's wife" river said "thats good, but not accurate". Sounds like the Valeyard! If she's married to the Valeyard then technically she is married to 1 aspect of the Dr.
sallyjosie 1 year ago
@sallyjosie I'm hoping she's evil. Seriously, lol.
ChaosTheory0 1 year ago
@ChaosTheory0 Now wouldn't that be way more entertaining? I'm not kidding. I guess I wouldn't mind if she were the Rani BUT moffat has said NO CLASSIC VILLIANS would be returning to Dr Who this season. Of course he could be lying his butt off. Maybe she's IS the Valeyard in another incarnation. I know some people have pooh-poohed the idea but think about it. she's not afraid to kill anybody. She acts like a man most of the time. AND it would explain how she knows the Dr's real name. Maybe the
sallyjosie 1 year ago
@sallyjosie Valeyard repents at some point in the future. Though frankly, I hate the villian has a change of heart and becomes a really good and trusted friend syndrome. I saw it done to death on a Japanese Cartoon years ago. The first time, Okay, it was kind of cool. But then villian after villian.... It got to be too much. So you'll forgive me if I find that idea a little cliched. I hope she isn't his wife and that she is someone the Dr WON'T trust in the future. That would be awesome!
sallyjosie 1 year ago
@sallyjosie AND, the Daleks had her on record! In the Big Bang, when that Dalek shot the Doctor, Riversong confronts it and the Dalek says "You are an associate of the Doctors and will show mercy" or whatever and she says "I'm Riversong. Check your records agian." And the Dalek begged for mercy.
ChaosTheory0 1 year ago
@sallyjosie It would be, yeah.
I don't like the idea of The Doctor having a wife.
ChaosTheory0 1 year ago
@ChaosTheory0 Oh, I half remembered the interchange between river and the Dalek. But I didn't really pay close attention as I do not pay much attention to that character whenever she comes on screen. lol And if someone were to be the Doctors wife it should be someone that most of the fans actually like. according to one online poll 52% of the fans say that can't stand river song. That's probably a good indicator. She would suck as his wife. She is a nag and a hag. The Dr can easily do better.
sallyjosie 1 year ago
@sallyjosie Haha. Yeah, he can.
ChaosTheory0 1 year ago
@sallyjosie I don't pay attention to polls. Most females don't want The Doctor to be married. Ever. That is natural. (Unfortunately).
LadyHeathersLair 1 year ago
@LadyHeathersLair Actually I DO want the Doctor to be married. But to a Time Lady like Romana. Not river song. Actually I read on the facebook page that river song might actually turn out to be a (probably spelt wrong) manisfestation of the Tardis. THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING. So long as the Dr doesn't have sex with her. That would be creepy even if she looked like Miss Universe. It would be like a guy wanting to have sex with his car. Yuck! And NO I don't want to marry a make believe character..
sallyjosie 1 year ago
@sallyjosie I am happily married (for more then 20 yrs) to a REAL PERSON. lol And we have 3 kids. Yeah, I don't think a person can have real kids with a make-believe person. That would be something straight out of the Twilight Zone. Oh and if you read something that comes across as offensive on other posts.....Please know I don't mean to insult ANYONE except for a select few. lol I really don't. Sometimes my temper gets ahead of my brain. So I apologise in advance to any British fan offended.
sallyjosie 1 year ago
these things are the altenative weaping angles
turbojermyhamond 1 year ago
I trust that man to the end of the universe. And actually, we've been.
SamLuvsTheFunnyVlog 1 year ago 4
I am so freaking confused...
bananas1and2 2 years ago 48
Keep watching, although you probably have because it was two weeks ago...
CeramicVideo 2 years ago
@bananas1and2 Yes, and then you forgot >:D
MEareCAT 1 year ago
@bananas1and2 thats why you have to watch series 6 and 5 and come back to this :P
Yoshi53131 9 months ago
umm i take it back he actually is freaky
freek0fnature 2 years ago
Can someone please figure out what is a Vasta Narvana. It's some sort of code from the Dr. Who Writers. Some sort of encrypted words.
albierte 2 years ago
Vashda Narada is what's in the dark, they infest shadows like swarms and they're extremely carnivorous. Like piranhas of the air.
ajw34307 2 years ago
no its not. jubjubbi. yes nightsongs. what
SmartayPartay
sloane16 2 years ago
INVVISIBLE NOM!!1!
SmartayPartay 2 years ago 33
I'm ashamed to admit how long it took me to get that but yes, ultimate invisible noms XD
nightsongs 2 years ago 4
The beginning of this is
so.
creepy.
jubjubbi 2 years ago 4