Torture is known to be a form of treatment derived by the church who set an example for this got be carried out on unsuspecting individuals who did not go by the rules set by the those in power. We have to say that theses techniques are still carried out in the west not say to that the east is not guilty of the same atrocities. Morally acceptable to hold the moral line? Who is is to say this or has the authority to justify torture of any kind
I hate these theoretical scenarios that get promoted to justify the government doing whatever they want. If such an implausible scenario occured, you know the government wouldn't hesitate to do anything, They just want the power to be able to torture anyone, at any time, for anything.
It is just an exercise. Dr. Baggini is completely unconnected to the government.
The penultimate paragraph (so probably 90 seconds before the end) he says: "...although in theory torture may sometimes be morally acceptable in rare cases, we need to maintain an absolute prohibition against it in order to hold the moral line. In practice, if torture is sometimes allowed, it will inevitably go on when it should not. ...."
Continuing with Dr. Baggini: "... It is better that we sometimes fail to torture when it is the best thing to do than occasionally totrture when it is wrong to do so." p. 50
That is not necessarily his opinion, just an outline in part of the whole argument.
You know, I got permission from Dr. Baggini to do more than this one excerpt, but I've been so busy with so many different things I haven't got back to this.
Per your request, it moves up the list of must-do.
I'd love to read this book some day soon. I shall have to buy it at some point. I doubt my local library would have it however. :/
It somewhat reminds me of the Jokers philosophical "test" from the movie Dark Knight, on the boats. I'm sure you've heard of it?. Anyway, wonderful excerpt from the book. <3
Even if the local library doesn't have it, they can request an interlibrary loan from another neighbouring county.
For the record, Julian Baggini is very friendly and encouraging. I have a couple of his books. After making this particular vid, I came across something else that I wanted to share and discuss and though he certainly must be busy, he still took time for a thoughtful response.
I haven't seen Dark Knight, but this may be the reason to get it.
Torture is known to be a form of treatment derived by the church who set an example for this got be carried out on unsuspecting individuals who did not go by the rules set by the those in power. We have to say that theses techniques are still carried out in the west not say to that the east is not guilty of the same atrocities. Morally acceptable to hold the moral line? Who is is to say this or has the authority to justify torture of any kind
is feasible to achieve a desired end is death.
Pianoantics 2 years ago
I hate these theoretical scenarios that get promoted to justify the government doing whatever they want. If such an implausible scenario occured, you know the government wouldn't hesitate to do anything, They just want the power to be able to torture anyone, at any time, for anything.
Leadwerks 2 years ago 2
It is just an exercise. Dr. Baggini is completely unconnected to the government.
The penultimate paragraph (so probably 90 seconds before the end) he says: "...although in theory torture may sometimes be morally acceptable in rare cases, we need to maintain an absolute prohibition against it in order to hold the moral line. In practice, if torture is sometimes allowed, it will inevitably go on when it should not. ...."
ConsilienceTeacher 2 years ago
Continuing with Dr. Baggini: "... It is better that we sometimes fail to torture when it is the best thing to do than occasionally totrture when it is wrong to do so." p. 50
That is not necessarily his opinion, just an outline in part of the whole argument.
ConsilienceTeacher 2 years ago
i love this book its so interesting yu should read some more extracts
Gbirmz 2 years ago
You know, I got permission from Dr. Baggini to do more than this one excerpt, but I've been so busy with so many different things I haven't got back to this.
Per your request, it moves up the list of must-do.
IttyBittyLit 2 years ago
I didn't realise I was logged in as IttyBittyLit. Normally the CT account is open and I didn't stop to look.
a'best
ConsilienceTeacher 2 years ago
I'd love to read this book some day soon. I shall have to buy it at some point. I doubt my local library would have it however. :/
It somewhat reminds me of the Jokers philosophical "test" from the movie Dark Knight, on the boats. I'm sure you've heard of it?. Anyway, wonderful excerpt from the book. <3
goblingirl13 3 years ago
Even if the local library doesn't have it, they can request an interlibrary loan from another neighbouring county.
For the record, Julian Baggini is very friendly and encouraging. I have a couple of his books. After making this particular vid, I came across something else that I wanted to share and discuss and though he certainly must be busy, he still took time for a thoughtful response.
I haven't seen Dark Knight, but this may be the reason to get it.
Cheers!
ConsilienceTeacher 3 years ago