I feel sorry for all of you students across the pond whom protested peacefully just to have Hitler wana be's get violent, Keep ut the great work students , TEXAS USA CARES !!!
thankfully we're not in america...why is it some americans think its a good thing they are so under control? like ''yeah in the USA we would shoot these scumbags''....yeah great lets all be like america fuck it lets just have the apocalypse now actually skip the years and years of oppression and building of tension etc...just get to the good bit
@Niggerhaterdotcom He's half-caste himself, but he hates it. That's why he did a Michael Jackson. Look at his photos under his lllldepechemodeIIII account. Just copy and paste it into the search bar to see what I did to him in London. He'll have fled the place now there's trouble. He tried to flee me, but I'm WAY too fast.
@SouthwesternEagle Nice one. Trouble is, he boasts about having 350 accounts and 60 mobile phones, or some such crap. He probably has, because his life is based entirely on YouTube. At least he won't ever fly out to fight me again, or anyone else. His missing teeth will serve as a permanent reminder never to do that again.
The answers simple. Police need more freedom, less criticism by the mockery of our media in this country. If youths under a certain age offend should be committed to detention centers in preparation of national service for 3-6 months. Adults +18 whos prosecuted sent to prison and forced to labor to remain there so prison is not a holiday camp or free. And bring back the death penalty. A life for a life period however must be absolutely overwhelming proof though. This will reduce crime.
i don't realy get the reason to protest. If they can unite so easily, they could organise themselves to solve problems. That is a shit load of organaized human brains. It has immense computational power. Anyway, why do they want something from the government? The government doesn't do anything, they just tell them what to do, and eventually, people would do the things. So basically, they are asking to be controlled better?O_o
Resist rise up against British regime murdering its own people!
Criminal British government supports other people over world particularly its spy agency supported oil regime change thugs as “peaceful protesters” even when armed,burning,killing,police,military,officials in name of protest freedom.
However British people in peaceful protest to address regime abuses are falsely demonized repressed like Britain has done for centuries murdering world to enrich queen and Cameron court gesture fools!
Kettling is mental. It encourages violence by protesters, violence by police and if they do not stop it someone will be killed. I cannot believe that the Met see this as a legal tactic for crowd control; the police role as guardians of the law is made laughable by behaviour like this.
@1962sk - Untill you have walked a mile in a Police Officers shoes you shouldn't moan. If I were a cop haveing a metal industrial fence been chucked at me, I would pick it up and chuck it back at the bastards who threw it!
i agree, fucking stone the stupid conformist pigs for supporting a government build on blood and betrayal... i just cant wait till their jobs are cut, then there'll be less of the bastards to prevent a true protest next time.
@MegaChasse Completely agree with you. Same thing happened during out student protests here in Dublin. Huge crowds out but our message was undermined by those few anarchists who were only there to start fights.
what u gona do when he knifes you mate. (PS i don't like knives as well) David Cameron legally knifes people in the back and you lot have to stick up for him. he is just like caddafy you know! except people dont see. are they getting rid of all the police after the Royal wedding?. Do you no if he is getting rid of the policeman outside his front door,who was stuck outside number ten in all winds and weathers,
@zephranna01 ...slacker generation...who the fuck are u, u dont even know me i'm a single mum, work 2 jobs and ive worked since i left school now thats hardly slacking...paying the price ? what price is that? ignorant fool...dont you dare make assumptions about me ive worked my arse off all my life
they wear steal toe capped boats thats why they kick u in the shins...its the police that cause all the trouble i was at a festival and we were all leaving and the police turned up in riot gear and caused a massive riot, every year i was there and i never saw any trouble like that and the first year the police turn up and do that the place was in an uproar, people were running about covered head to toe in blood it was a disgrace and the papers hailed the police as heros but they caused it
lol this cracks me up. Although the fella with the camera has the option to walk away, he continues to walk into the police and then says don't push me, walks into them again and yet again he says don't push me and so forth. Now i'm no rocket scientist, but if someone kept walking into me...not only would i push them away, i'd smack em one under the act of provocation lol
How can public servants behave like this in the face of the facts that the banks are stealing from them as much as anyone. Do they think their pensions wont be stollen as soon as they reach an age of inability to riot?
Governments are being bankrupted by banksters who print our money at interest. It can never be paid back. Enter lawful, Constitutional rebellion, and become self-sufficient.
@petshopboysfan1 I do know who i'm serving. Otherwise i wouldn't be a police officer! And i can tell you one thing I AM NOT SERVING YOU STUDENTS & PROTESTORS!
@Jonny30284 This is precisely the attitude which shames the police. The police are meant to serve all the people, not just those who observe the status quo and have come to terms with their political disenfranchisement. It is a democratic right to protest, and to do so without being beaten or intimidated. Fuck you sir, you statist pig.
@thetexandub I think you need to start growing up a little bit don't you? I mean swearing at a police officer over a few harmeless comments on youtube is sad! I am fully aware the public have a right to demonstrate PEACEFULLY but i think some of you have forgotten the meaning of peaceful and have substituted it for the word VIOLENCE instead. So before you start calling me a pig again i suggest you take a long hard look at the difference between a student protest and a peaceful one!
@Jonny30284 First of all the idea of telling me to grow up was predictable, and swearing at a police officer who espouses such ugly views is not a matter of maturity - swearing is an important and useful part our language, and respecting the police unconditionally is not a mark of maturity, it's a mark of political and intellectual disenfranchisement and surrender . What is a matter of maturity is your petty attitude towards protestors. It is your job to keep the peace, not incite violence.
10,000 piggys to lose there jobs, ahhh pure brilliance, i marvel at the people who thought of this. Now go see if you can find a real job where you have to work for the money. You useless lazy backward cunts.
@edwina22 Thats a labour party number and not likely to be anywhere near. Also they won't really lose their jobs. They will be retired onto a nice pension. They will all have 30+ years of service.
@edwina22 no I mean daily - how many times have you put yourself in the line of a weapon to save someone or get involved with violent people who noone else will deal with but they have just beaten someone down - please show some consideration and only reply if you have an actual sensible answer - I hope that if you ever have to call 999 it may change your mind!
@ococircusboy Listen, the police do not get involved with people with dangerous weapons it was proven in the case of raoul moat the police hid away. same with micheal ryan at hungerford, the lad in the van on the A63 who was holding one of those ornamental samurai swords, they shot him dead. So forget the police disarming people cause it just dont happen. The reason the public dont get involved the majority of the time is because the police prosecute them for doing what they couldnt.
@edwina22 erm I beg to differ and I can confidently say that yes the police do disarm people with dangerous weapons - training states if you are not in immediete danger then call through and have armed police attend as they can deal with a situation better armed - but many officers will put themselves in harms way over members of the public - your attitude disgusts me !!!
@ococircusboy Good i dont care you are only disgusted because you hate the truth. How come that pig didnt disarm raoul moat, how come beshenivsky stopped a bullet, how come kenny noye killed john fordham, barry pruden shot about 3 pigs, so how come none saved there own lives??? because they were cowards thats why. Fletcher the whore was another one in london. Blakelock the dickhead was another, he had his head hacked right off,lol How do you find my attitude now you prick.
@edwina22 so someone getting killed in the line of duty is being cowardly - you are an absolute top class cunt - tbh you are just some troll on the hiding behind a hidden profile so people can't write on your wall - hmm you are so brave arent you - I hope someone shoots you and there is noone around to help !
@ococircusboy How can i possibly be shot with your wonderful police force disarming everyone?? and to be called a first class cunt tells me i have hit a nerve. lol. Oh and by the way we are all hidden, including you my dear boy.
@edwina22 Yes you have hit a nerve with your ignorance - police aren't there 24/7 but all the calls that are attended where weapons are involved are dealt with in the highest manner.
And no my profile is open - please don't bother messaging back !
@ococircusboy You see thats the whole point it wasnt just the actions of one it was the conspirators who were with him and did nothing to stop him and refused to make statements against him. They are a brotherhood that will lie and conspire to get there way out of anything. We need a whole new police force and not this corrupt bunch of facists. They all stink including the IPCC, we need change.
@queeniebee121 you daft cow, the police were VASTLY outnumbered by protestors at all the recent anarchist-hijacked protests. Count them, should be nice and easy as they're all in luminous yellow, and by the amazing power of vision! LMAO!
@queeniebee121 you daft cow, the police were VASTLY outnumbered by protestors at all the recent anarchist-hijacked protests. Count them, should be nice and easy as they're all in luminous yellow, and by the amazing power of vision! LMAO!
Next major anarchist gathering is the 29th january in central London, joining the students who are angry at the government.Charlie love veitch will be there in protest at the entire thing, not just the fees.please wake up and show your support and join us the people that are fighting for your kids and there kids life.........WAKE UP WAKE UP
well theyve now stopped EMA, how disgusting is that. Now 7/10 students in college will drop out, meaning they will go on the dole, meaning they'll get payed higher than they usually would of EMA, meaning the goverment will have to pay more money out! conservatives are idiots ...
Next major anarchist gathering is the 29th in central London, joining the students who are angry at the government.Charlie love veitch will be there in protest at the entire thing, not just the fees.please wake up and show your support and join us the people that are fighting for your kids and there kids life.........WAKE UP WAKE UP
this is going to be 1 of the biggest yet i hope and please go every man/woman counts peace and respect to all that turnout and show the powers that be we are not going to take it anymore.
@shaneashbar You disgust me recruiting people over an internet site as if it's a revolution have you people gone mad? I work for the metropolitain police TSG and i almost got myself killed at the last demonstration! Don't you people realise what you are doing? putting the lives of innocent people at risk Do the police a favour and stay at home with your thoughts!
@Jonny30284 i think you should grow some balls and wake the fuck up.
how many people have you hit with that baton? 100s i bet.
this slavery has to stop some how and staying at home is going to do fuck all good for any 1 so pack your job in and stop protecting the elite as you are just as much as a slave as the rest of us pig scum fuck.
@shaneashbar Me grow a pair of balls? shouting abuse at us police won't do you any good we serve her majesty and the government so up yours with this slave crap! And anyways your condem nation won't listen to a bunch of snotty nosed prats in my last comment i was merely suggesting a better idea for you to do .YOU chose to vote for this MISTAKE so YOU live by this mistake.
@Jonny30284 First of all, you should be serving the people, not the government. Secondly the idea of having to live by that mistake is wrong, they have violated their electoral mandate, therefore they have no democratic right to govern, and so protestors have every right to protest or even try to remove them from power. The democratic channels of political participation are ineffective (partly because we only live in a pseudo-democracy) and so we all have the right to use other channels.
@thetexandub You should have done yourself the courtesy of researching about what the last time Britain was like when the Conservatives were in power! You would realise why it's taken them 2 decades to get into power again. And i am serving the government ONLY and it will stay that way until people start showing respect for the police.
@Jonny30284 Why the hell should the people respect the police when they are brutalizing students at sit-ins, kettling without provocation, and have a very unsavory history of brutality (eg Ian Tomlinson)? And I actually do know about what it was like last time the Conservatives were in power - I've studied it quite a lot during my education. Lastly, I stand by what I said about the police inciting violence - at the second protest they kettled people into an area with an empty police van.
@thetexandub That police van was left there by mistake and are you suggesting that the death of ian tomlinson was down to pure brutallity from heartless thugs? No i don't think so because it wasn't! Ian tomlinsons death was tragic but the it did not come down to the police and i think if you look at some videos and read previous headlines you can see that clearly we didn't start this violence! It was down to pure STUDENT SCUM.
@Jonny30284 what, a police van was left in the middle of a prepared kettle for AN HOUR while protestors were shepherded in by mistake? I don't think so. How do you explain Jody McIntyre being pulled out of his wheelchair twice when he clearly posed no threat? Police officers like you are the scum, you're a disgrace to yourselves, your families, good police officers, the met, and above all the claim that we live in a democracy.
@thetexandub Jody mcintyre was lucky he wasn't shot on the spot by the met! for his stupid actions. That was no mistake, he disobeyed a police order and so was pulled to safety as he posed a threat to endanger others in the environment. And if police officers like me were scum how do you think i made it to inspector eh? Just by sitting there and taking shit from prats like you? NO i hope after this argument you do not frown upon the fact that we DO live in a democracy!
@Jonny30284 A boy in a wheelchair poses no threat to anyone's safety. Maybe if he had a gun, but he didn't, the police did. How did you make it to inspector if you're scum? Well because the people who promoted you are scum, probably also the kind who think disabled students should be shot for not asking 'how high?' when instructed by the police to jump. Final fact: 2010 election turnout was 65%, conservative vote share was 36% - the majority do not want the conservatives. Is that democracy?
@thetexandub The boy in a wheelchair did pose a threat as he was standing in the middle of a cavalry charge! We dragged him to the side of the road for his own safety, and whether or not the majority do not want the conservatives i'm afraid the conservatives still got into parliament though didn't they! i would call that a democracy.
@Jonny30284 "I would call that democracy" hence my point about you having no conception of political theory. The Nazi's got into parliament didn't they? Well i suppose its okay then, Nazi Germany was sufficiently democratic.
And good on him for blocking a police charge, I suppose you'd advocate the shooting of tankman as well, for blocking the tank charge into Tiananmen Square. Interesting how you think he was endangering people by stopping horses from charging into them.
@thetexandub How the hell can you compare the conservatives to Nazi Germany? You can't. It is you who clearly has no conception of political theory just because you can't have everything YOUR WAY (Which doesn't have to happen all the time in a democracy) you decide to rant at everybody you come into contact with and i don't see what's 'interesting' about my comment on jody mcintyre endangering people by stopping horses from charging!
@Jonny30284 it's interesting because I would think being on the receiving end of a horse charge is a dangerous situation to find yourself in. Sure my comparison was a little extreme, but the fact remains that just because a party gets into government doesn't mean it has democratic legitimacy, like the Nazis, and the current government. What the current situation has highlighted is that democratic deficit is endemic in our electoral and governmental system - it's broken.
@thetexandub I will agree with you that it has broken but the way the public has reacted to it is far beyond shocking! I mean student demonstrations? WHAT THE HELL! is a stupid demonstration gonna do? NOTHING it is a total waste of time and look at the consequences of it, injured policeman and an even angrier government! and he was endangering the policeman who were riding the horses.
@Jonny30284 God forbid the policemen who are attempting to trample innocent and perhaps guilty alike get hurt, that would be such a tragedy.
It may seem pointless to you, but to sit back and let people lose their jobs, access to education, access to good healthcare, pensions etc - everything the state provides, without saying a word in opposition would be an enormous injustice to ourselves.
@thetexandub Yes that would be a tragedy! Especially as my brother is a mounted policeman! But because we live in a DEMOCRACY you're not suppost to go around and shouting things protesting you are suppost to have enormous injustice to yourselves it's what a democracy is all about you sit there vote and the government take care of the rest then if you don't like it vote for a better party.
@Jonny30284 If our votes counted for anything - if the make up of parliament actually reflected electoral results I would partially agree. The one part I would still disagree with is that we're not supposed to demonstrate/protest - that's a remarkably authoritarian point of view, democracy is rule by the people, and thus they should be allowed to make their opinions known. It's alarming but not surprising that a policeman doesn't believe in the right of free assembly or free speech.
@thetexandub Have you seen the havoc that assembly for free speech has caused? We are absolutely hated as a nation now for having idiots run around the street giving our government the say so. I find it ridiculous and i find it extremely alarming that A member of the public doesn't agree with me!
@Jonny30284 Where the hell did you get the idea that we're internationally hated for the protests? Anti-government protests in the middle east are being internationally praised. You appear to be grasping at proverbial straws sir.
So you find it ridiculous and alarming that a member of the public doesn't like being told to shut up and know their place? Go read some Locke, Paine, Rousseau, Marx and Kropotkin, then re-enter the discussion - it's pointless arguing with someone who has no clue.
@thetexandub How am i not making sense anymore? You said in your previous comment 'it's pointless arguing with someone who has no clue' and i replied i'm doing a hell of a lot better than you meaning that i have more of a clue on this topic than you! And just so you don't walk around pleased with yourself any longer you haven't gotten me all riled up. I'm just warming myself up for the long arguments to come!
@Jonny30284 Saying that you have a clue doesn't mean you actually do, if you'd addressed any of my arguments then maybe I'd continue to engage with you, but you're not actually engaging with me, only telling me I'm wrong without providing any evidence. Quite frankly I have better things to do than argue with a man who has the mindset of a child in discussion.
@thetexandub Well i'm glad your not willing to argue with me anymore because there is no point for someone who hasn't even bothered researching the term of Democracy or finding out what happened the last time this country had the conservatives in parliament, i should hope after your tricky, little brain gets an idea round this comment you will realise that i too do not wish to argue with you anymore!
@Jonny30284 I don't need to 'research the term of democracy' - I've studied it, it's part of my degree, can you say the same? Again, I don't need to 'find out what happened the last time this country had the conservatives in power', I've studied it, for 4 consecutive years, as part of my A levels and my degree; I know what it was like, undoubtedly with a better political and economic understanding of how terrible it was. Now sit down, have a coke and a smile and hush =]
@thetexandub Okay little boy! Now you are starting to agitate me just a little bit if i were to catch your name or address i would have you shot by a firing squad!
@Jonny30284 I'm not the one who takes a political discussion down to 'tell me where you live so i can come and shoot you' Johnny boy. You're supposedly a grown man, act like one.
@Jonny30284 This is why I lol'd in the first place; you're either a troll, in which case well done, I've had a lot fun =], and if you're not then then you're a very small man throwing a hissy fit because you can't defend your ill-considered views.
@thetexandub I have no ill-considered views they are the right ones i'm just trying to teach you the same! Obviously your arrogance will have none of it, and anyways if you must know i'm 6ft 4inches so i'm neither of the options you said.
@Jonny30284 If you want to teach, then address the points I raise rather than dismissing them out of hand; it's quite clear that this to you is an argument, not a discussion, meaning all you want out of this is a victory. Tell your ego to calm down, and do some reading; I'm not saying that in a one-up-manship kind of way, I mean it genuinely - do some reading, even if you arrive at the same illogical, morally bankrupt beliefs, you'll be able to argue them more convincingly, with dignity.
@Jonny30284 That really doesn't address anything I'm afraid Johnny, that was simply a statement (which happens to be false) using words I used previously; flashy but unsubstantial, and certainly not a thorough refutation of anything I have said.
@Jonny30284 Oh dear. I seem to have hit a raw nerve since you have nothing better to do than converse with uneducated 'Idiots' like myself. Since we are on the subject of education lets examine your reply to me. I quote you verbatim. 'Yes i am i am an inspector trying to Educate idiots like you!"
The letter I is always capitalised. After yes I am you require a full stop. The word Inspector is capitalised also and the word educate should be in lower case. Not bad for an uneducated idiot.
@keowno WHO CARES about my grammar, Nobody! You're just trying to draw attention to yourself. Well it ain't working i see your also trying to change the subject idiot i'm still waiting on an explanation of how i've been caught 'bang to rights'
@Jonny30284 Jonny dear boy. Calm down it's only a friendly You Tube wind-up. I am going to bed now so please don't bother replying. In fact, don't bother replying at all. I can't be bothered bandying words with someone who is not au fait with the English Language.
@Jonny30284 Why bother typing the comment at all that would save even more time. I repeat. I do not believe you are who you say you are. However, if you are, wouldn't it be better if you spent more time on being an excellent Police Officer and Colleague to your Fellow Officers than trying to disseminate propaganda on You Tube. I am a busy man I have no time for this kind of piffle, and , I suggest neither do you.
@Jonny30284 You don't do irony, do you? " WHAT THE HELL! is a stupid demonstration gonna do"? Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and counting. All uprisings which started from WAIT FOR IT! DEMONSTRATIONS.
@Jonny30284 'So they can't be immoral'? all that means is that 3/4 of the met are bastards who are in the job just because they like the feeling of personal empowerment which their badge grants them - a fact already well known.
@Jonny30284 Okay, well obviously I'm talking to a brick wall with no conception of political theory, basic ethics or compassion, and this discussion is seeming increasingly pointless. I'm sure you'll enjoy the feeling of empowerment next time you beat an innocent on behalf of her majesty and our un-mandated government, but I sincerely hope (probably in vain) that eventually you'll grow a conscience and find it difficult to sleep at night. Happy kettling!
@Jonny30284 Oh and I know I just bowed out of the discussion, but this one I can't resist - "Do the police a favour and stay at home with your thoughts!" - Thought police! LOL
I'm sorry but you really served us that one on a silver platter.
@thetexandub I don't find that funny at all! That person was encouraging the innocent beating of police officers at demonstrations over this site! So i did not serve you anything on a silver platter.
@Jonny30284 Well it's nice to know that you think the beating of police officers is "innocent" as well as the beating of protestors, at least you're not discriminatory with your views on violence =P
@thetexandub The beating of some protestors ISN'T innocent because they encourage violence and then incite it! let me remind you i am an inspector of a police force i will not make anything EASY for you!
@Jonny30284 You're english is getting so muddled it's hard to understand what point you're trying to make, it's a little worrying that we live in a country where a man can get to the level of TSG inspector without a junior-school level of literacy, but from what I gather you're saying it's okay to beat protestors in self-defense. Sure it is, but that rarely comes into it as the mountain of video evidence shows.
ps. you can't encourage and then incite, semantically they're very, very similar.
@thetexandub I'm sorry YOUR ROYAL HIGHNESS i will correct my 'poor' grammatical terms and yes it is ok to beat protestors in self defence and with the amount of student protest videos on youtube we here at the Met are not short of any evidence to suggest NO wrong doing, and although the words encourage and incite are indeed very, very similar you can use them in the same sentence because they practically mean different things.
@Jonny30284 So the myriad videos which show police doing things like punching students in the head because they won't step back (maybe because they're all kettled into a small area with no room to move) shows no wrong doing?
Yes, they can mean different things, but the way in which you used them was tautological. And neither actually involve committing violence, so you can't use 'self-defence' to justify beating someone for encouraging or inciting violence.
@thetexandub Yes you can because they are causing a nuisance of themselves and will be arrested under section 5 breach of the peace in a public area! Also if these videos do show police wrong doing (Which they don't because i have checked a vast majority of them on YT) how come none of my officers or indeed the entire Met force have either been suspended or sacked for misconduct in a public office? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT.
@Jonny30284 I will, it's actually remarkably easy to explain - it's not in the government's or Judges or prosecutors interests to pursue officers who abuse their power.
@thetexandub Oh sure of course it's not, that's how a police officer was jailed for class A drug dealing a couple of weeks ago? either you don't understand the terms of Democracy or you have started your dreamworld illusions again!
@Jonny30284 Drug dealing is not in the government's interests, suppressing dissent is. Either you're evading the points of my arguments or you're stupid, I'm going to assume the former, so please stop being evasive, it's not constructive to the discussion.
Put yourself in the police shoes. Far outnumbered and facing thugs with masks and sticks. How would you react as an individual carrying a shield and batton? Fact is ALOT of thugs took part in your protest and it makes your side esponsible for the result. Tuition fee policy is unfair, but we all suffer hardship. Working and suffering pay freezes, below inflation pay rises etc. How many of you are passionate for eductation anyway? Some of you are thugs who took the opportunity to riot.
The idea that the police provoked violence is complete and utter nonsense. The police have nothing to gain and a substantial amount to lose from rioting. The police were acting with proactive, legally justified and necessary steps to ensure everyone's safety. That's why British police are the best in the world
But when you spend some time at one of those protests and you feel the generaly atmosphere, I began to fear the police. In this country you should not fear the police, they should make you feel safe.. but I know a girl who was dragged by her hair to the ground just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A boy I know tried to climb a wall to escape the kettle and was pulled down by the police and kicked. I was also hit for no reason.
@rosydonut I don't see your point. You shouldn't have gone in the first place. And yes, in this situation fear is exactly what you should be experiencing.
The majority of people went to that protest to protest peacefully. The news focused on the violent parts of the protest.
Why should I not have gone? I will be the one who has to pay the money. My point is that if the police had not kettled us then the protest may not have even got violent in the first place.
@rosydonut You say that you will be the one who has to pay the money as if you shouldn't have to. If you got yourself in the position that was likely to get you hurt in the first place then you deserved it. Kettling is a very effective preventative measure that I hope will continue to be used.
So if the Police were disbanded who would protect the likes of you lot?
In a world of anarchy it would become survival of the fittest and I can guarantee that much as you lot think you're tough, you would not survive. I very much doubt that all of you 'committed to the cause' would be sticking together against the rest of the world either.
The thing is, it will suddenly hit you all one day just what you have done by acting like thugs and damaging property and people!
I'm not an anarchist, incidentally. I do know that we need a police force; the point is that we need one to impartially enforce the law, not being the unjust arm of the fascist state.
All violence towards the police is in response to their horrendous and illegal actions! They are scum; they are pond life and when the revoluition comes they will inevitably be on the wrong side.
And how do you think the students (remember, it's not ONLY students) should make their case, considering that any peaceful protests will be just brushed to once side and ignored by the powers that be?
I feel sorry for all of you students across the pond whom protested peacefully just to have Hitler wana be's get violent, Keep ut the great work students , TEXAS USA CARES !!!
32plopper 3 months ago 2
You must prepare spetial policeman for violent riot, be strong and take it easy
thornado211 6 months ago
thankfully we're not in america...why is it some americans think its a good thing they are so under control? like ''yeah in the USA we would shoot these scumbags''....yeah great lets all be like america fuck it lets just have the apocalypse now actually skip the years and years of oppression and building of tension etc...just get to the good bit
graveyblively 6 months ago
please stop the riots.
iMOSKUL 6 months ago
Remember remember the fifth of november
___anonymous___
777666555123 6 months ago
@777666555123 Is it facebook you're hitting on the fifth?
XpEAnUTBuTtERsUckSX 4 months ago
London cops are pussy. New York cops are scarier.
Showbolt1 6 months ago
@Showbolt1 Well ya...when everyone in the city has a glock tucked away.
shields817 6 months ago
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Showbolt1 6 months ago
@Niggerhaterdotcom He's half-caste himself, but he hates it. That's why he did a Michael Jackson. Look at his photos under his lllldepechemodeIIII account. Just copy and paste it into the search bar to see what I did to him in London. He'll have fled the place now there's trouble. He tried to flee me, but I'm WAY too fast.
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electroexecutoide 6 months ago
@electroexecutoide I'm onto this guy. I found him on the Atari video too. He has been reported.
SouthwesternEagle 6 months ago
@SouthwesternEagle Nice one. Trouble is, he boasts about having 350 accounts and 60 mobile phones, or some such crap. He probably has, because his life is based entirely on YouTube. At least he won't ever fly out to fight me again, or anyone else. His missing teeth will serve as a permanent reminder never to do that again.
electroexecutoide 6 months ago
@Niggerhaterdotcom every nigger is a pussy. end of fistfucking story.
BurnLondonBurnHAHAHA 6 months ago
Stupid Brit Kids shame on you....
BasSsFreAK1040 6 months ago
London police is bunch of p*****
sarwar1432 6 months ago
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The answers simple. Police need more freedom, less criticism by the mockery of our media in this country. If youths under a certain age offend should be committed to detention centers in preparation of national service for 3-6 months. Adults +18 whos prosecuted sent to prison and forced to labor to remain there so prison is not a holiday camp or free. And bring back the death penalty. A life for a life period however must be absolutely overwhelming proof though. This will reduce crime.
scottevangelist 6 months ago
Open facebook group to make people aware of where these riots are UkRiotMap com
uklad06 6 months ago
All together against those that want to make our nasions protectorate.Greetings from Greece!!!
Dourin1988 6 months ago
i don't realy get the reason to protest. If they can unite so easily, they could organise themselves to solve problems. That is a shit load of organaized human brains. It has immense computational power. Anyway, why do they want something from the government? The government doesn't do anything, they just tell them what to do, and eventually, people would do the things. So basically, they are asking to be controlled better?O_o
mzoltan14 6 months ago
Resist rise up against British regime murdering its own people!
Criminal British government supports other people over world particularly its spy agency supported oil regime change thugs as “peaceful protesters” even when armed,burning,killing,police,military,officials in name of protest freedom.
However British people in peaceful protest to address regime abuses are falsely demonized repressed like Britain has done for centuries murdering world to enrich queen and Cameron court gesture fools!
IndigenousFreedom 6 months ago 3
@demarch77 Thats because your a sad low life muppet
stephenhicks1974 6 months ago
Kettling is mental. It encourages violence by protesters, violence by police and if they do not stop it someone will be killed. I cannot believe that the Met see this as a legal tactic for crowd control; the police role as guardians of the law is made laughable by behaviour like this.
1962sk 7 months ago 2
@1962sk - Untill you have walked a mile in a Police Officers shoes you shouldn't moan. If I were a cop haveing a metal industrial fence been chucked at me, I would pick it up and chuck it back at the bastards who threw it!
chrisjc2007 6 months ago
i agree, fucking stone the stupid conformist pigs for supporting a government build on blood and betrayal... i just cant wait till their jobs are cut, then there'll be less of the bastards to prevent a true protest next time.
VirOfCausa1 8 months ago
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PROTESTOR SCUM DIE
ZDMetinsp 9 months ago
@MegaChasse Completely agree with you. Same thing happened during out student protests here in Dublin. Huge crowds out but our message was undermined by those few anarchists who were only there to start fights.
gavmcguinness8024 10 months ago 2
the police aren't there to create disorder. They're there to maintain it
humdrummer 10 months ago
what u gona do when he knifes you mate. (PS i don't like knives as well) David Cameron legally knifes people in the back and you lot have to stick up for him. he is just like caddafy you know! except people dont see. are they getting rid of all the police after the Royal wedding?. Do you no if he is getting rid of the policeman outside his front door,who was stuck outside number ten in all winds and weathers,
russkidd3535 10 months ago
@zephranna01 ...slacker generation...who the fuck are u, u dont even know me i'm a single mum, work 2 jobs and ive worked since i left school now thats hardly slacking...paying the price ? what price is that? ignorant fool...dont you dare make assumptions about me ive worked my arse off all my life
ImJstMe1 11 months ago
Police is guard of banks and insurents comp... They r not for protect citizens.. They protect thiefs, bankowners and rich criminals...
kurmancboy2 11 months ago
they wear steal toe capped boats thats why they kick u in the shins...its the police that cause all the trouble i was at a festival and we were all leaving and the police turned up in riot gear and caused a massive riot, every year i was there and i never saw any trouble like that and the first year the police turn up and do that the place was in an uproar, people were running about covered head to toe in blood it was a disgrace and the papers hailed the police as heros but they caused it
ImJstMe1 11 months ago
cops pigs killers
darnak2005 11 months ago
It's one thing pushing people, but why are they kicking the protesters. I'm sure if it was the other way around you be arrested.
tpskl 11 months ago
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The UN should do something about the police in this country
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isleofwightinsider 11 months ago
...these people were trapped on both sides for 6 hours re: "[Part 2] Second mass student protest..."
GeoliphicMedia 11 months ago
@JedNZ ur part of the problem then
GeoliphicMedia 11 months ago
lol this cracks me up. Although the fella with the camera has the option to walk away, he continues to walk into the police and then says don't push me, walks into them again and yet again he says don't push me and so forth. Now i'm no rocket scientist, but if someone kept walking into me...not only would i push them away, i'd smack em one under the act of provocation lol
JedNZ 11 months ago
How can public servants behave like this in the face of the facts that the banks are stealing from them as much as anyone. Do they think their pensions wont be stollen as soon as they reach an age of inability to riot?
laurasIs2c 11 months ago 2
Governments are being bankrupted by banksters who print our money at interest. It can never be paid back. Enter lawful, Constitutional rebellion, and become self-sufficient.
dhjw 11 months ago
shit camera work... shaking like a leaf
Barnacle100 11 months ago
animals scum idiots you lot not the cops
LesCM19 11 months ago
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UKBLIVE 11 months ago
@petshopboysfan1 I do know who i'm serving. Otherwise i wouldn't be a police officer! And i can tell you one thing I AM NOT SERVING YOU STUDENTS & PROTESTORS!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 This is precisely the attitude which shames the police. The police are meant to serve all the people, not just those who observe the status quo and have come to terms with their political disenfranchisement. It is a democratic right to protest, and to do so without being beaten or intimidated. Fuck you sir, you statist pig.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub I think you need to start growing up a little bit don't you? I mean swearing at a police officer over a few harmeless comments on youtube is sad! I am fully aware the public have a right to demonstrate PEACEFULLY but i think some of you have forgotten the meaning of peaceful and have substituted it for the word VIOLENCE instead. So before you start calling me a pig again i suggest you take a long hard look at the difference between a student protest and a peaceful one!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 First of all the idea of telling me to grow up was predictable, and swearing at a police officer who espouses such ugly views is not a matter of maturity - swearing is an important and useful part our language, and respecting the police unconditionally is not a mark of maturity, it's a mark of political and intellectual disenfranchisement and surrender . What is a matter of maturity is your petty attitude towards protestors. It is your job to keep the peace, not incite violence.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub What violence is there to incite when it's already happened!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@petshopboysfan1 I can assure you that will never happen, i will keep my job!
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PYMetCadet 1 year ago
The only good cop is a dead one, Beshenivsky was a russian whore, who's real name was sloberdownmycockyoubitch.
edwina22 1 year ago
DOWN WITH THE STUDENT SCUMBAGS AND UP WITH THE METROPOLITAIN POLICE!!!!!
Jonny30284 1 year ago
That's right, the police incited violence by walking slowly down the street in a line. Plus your voice is whiny and irritating.
industrialfun 1 year ago
10,000 piggys to lose there jobs, ahhh pure brilliance, i marvel at the people who thought of this. Now go see if you can find a real job where you have to work for the money. You useless lazy backward cunts.
edwina22 1 year ago
@edwina22 Thats a labour party number and not likely to be anywhere near. Also they won't really lose their jobs. They will be retired onto a nice pension. They will all have 30+ years of service.
F1X0R121 1 year ago
@edwina22 because they don't work by saving people's live on a daily basis or are you a mong !
ococircusboy 1 year ago
@ococircusboy You mean yearly basis.
edwina22 1 year ago
@edwina22 no I mean daily - how many times have you put yourself in the line of a weapon to save someone or get involved with violent people who noone else will deal with but they have just beaten someone down - please show some consideration and only reply if you have an actual sensible answer - I hope that if you ever have to call 999 it may change your mind!
ococircusboy 1 year ago
@ococircusboy Listen, the police do not get involved with people with dangerous weapons it was proven in the case of raoul moat the police hid away. same with micheal ryan at hungerford, the lad in the van on the A63 who was holding one of those ornamental samurai swords, they shot him dead. So forget the police disarming people cause it just dont happen. The reason the public dont get involved the majority of the time is because the police prosecute them for doing what they couldnt.
edwina22 1 year ago
@edwina22 erm I beg to differ and I can confidently say that yes the police do disarm people with dangerous weapons - training states if you are not in immediete danger then call through and have armed police attend as they can deal with a situation better armed - but many officers will put themselves in harms way over members of the public - your attitude disgusts me !!!
ococircusboy 1 year ago
@ococircusboy Good i dont care you are only disgusted because you hate the truth. How come that pig didnt disarm raoul moat, how come beshenivsky stopped a bullet, how come kenny noye killed john fordham, barry pruden shot about 3 pigs, so how come none saved there own lives??? because they were cowards thats why. Fletcher the whore was another one in london. Blakelock the dickhead was another, he had his head hacked right off,lol How do you find my attitude now you prick.
edwina22 1 year ago
@edwina22 so someone getting killed in the line of duty is being cowardly - you are an absolute top class cunt - tbh you are just some troll on the hiding behind a hidden profile so people can't write on your wall - hmm you are so brave arent you - I hope someone shoots you and there is noone around to help !
ococircusboy 1 year ago
@ococircusboy How can i possibly be shot with your wonderful police force disarming everyone?? and to be called a first class cunt tells me i have hit a nerve. lol. Oh and by the way we are all hidden, including you my dear boy.
edwina22 1 year ago
@edwina22 Yes you have hit a nerve with your ignorance - police aren't there 24/7 but all the calls that are attended where weapons are involved are dealt with in the highest manner.
And no my profile is open - please don't bother messaging back !
ococircusboy 1 year ago
@ococircusboy Police are cowards in uniform who sneak up behind people and kill them, end of.
edwina22 1 year ago
@edwina22 Talk about a sweeping statement - genalising a whole workforce for the actions of 1
ococircusboy 1 year ago
@ococircusboy You see thats the whole point it wasnt just the actions of one it was the conspirators who were with him and did nothing to stop him and refused to make statements against him. They are a brotherhood that will lie and conspire to get there way out of anything. We need a whole new police force and not this corrupt bunch of facists. They all stink including the IPCC, we need change.
edwina22 1 year ago
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@queeniebee121 you daft cow, the police were VASTLY outnumbered by protestors at all the recent anarchist-hijacked protests. Count them, should be nice and easy as they're all in luminous yellow, and by the amazing power of vision! LMAO!
bitseach70 1 year ago
@queeniebee121 you daft cow, the police were VASTLY outnumbered by protestors at all the recent anarchist-hijacked protests. Count them, should be nice and easy as they're all in luminous yellow, and by the amazing power of vision! LMAO!
bitseach70 1 year ago
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Next major anarchist gathering is the 29th january in central London, joining the students who are angry at the government.Charlie love veitch will be there in protest at the entire thing, not just the fees.please wake up and show your support and join us the people that are fighting for your kids and there kids life.........WAKE UP WAKE UP
please get this to the top :)
shaneashbar 1 year ago
Our police force are excellent considering. If this was most other countries you would have been Tear gassed and tasered!
ococircusboy 1 year ago
well theyve now stopped EMA, how disgusting is that. Now 7/10 students in college will drop out, meaning they will go on the dole, meaning they'll get payed higher than they usually would of EMA, meaning the goverment will have to pay more money out! conservatives are idiots ...
NewcastleSupporter28 1 year ago
Next major anarchist gathering is the 29th in central London, joining the students who are angry at the government.Charlie love veitch will be there in protest at the entire thing, not just the fees.please wake up and show your support and join us the people that are fighting for your kids and there kids life.........WAKE UP WAKE UP
please get this to the top :)
shaneashbar 1 year ago
@shaneashbar Is there expected to be a large turnout? As far as I can tell this has been less publicised than others but I'm not sure.
I'd love to go.
rosydonut 1 year ago
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this is going to be 1 of the biggest yet i hope and please go every man/woman counts peace and respect to all that turnout and show the powers that be we are not going to take it anymore.
shaneashbar 1 year ago
@shaneashbar You disgust me recruiting people over an internet site as if it's a revolution have you people gone mad? I work for the metropolitain police TSG and i almost got myself killed at the last demonstration! Don't you people realise what you are doing? putting the lives of innocent people at risk Do the police a favour and stay at home with your thoughts!
Jonny30284 1 year ago
@Jonny30284 i think you should grow some balls and wake the fuck up.
how many people have you hit with that baton? 100s i bet.
this slavery has to stop some how and staying at home is going to do fuck all good for any 1 so pack your job in and stop protecting the elite as you are just as much as a slave as the rest of us pig scum fuck.
shaneashbar 1 year ago 2
@shaneashbar Me grow a pair of balls? shouting abuse at us police won't do you any good we serve her majesty and the government so up yours with this slave crap! And anyways your condem nation won't listen to a bunch of snotty nosed prats in my last comment i was merely suggesting a better idea for you to do .YOU chose to vote for this MISTAKE so YOU live by this mistake.
Jonny30284 1 year ago
@Jonny30284 First of all, you should be serving the people, not the government. Secondly the idea of having to live by that mistake is wrong, they have violated their electoral mandate, therefore they have no democratic right to govern, and so protestors have every right to protest or even try to remove them from power. The democratic channels of political participation are ineffective (partly because we only live in a pseudo-democracy) and so we all have the right to use other channels.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub You should have done yourself the courtesy of researching about what the last time Britain was like when the Conservatives were in power! You would realise why it's taken them 2 decades to get into power again. And i am serving the government ONLY and it will stay that way until people start showing respect for the police.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Why the hell should the people respect the police when they are brutalizing students at sit-ins, kettling without provocation, and have a very unsavory history of brutality (eg Ian Tomlinson)? And I actually do know about what it was like last time the Conservatives were in power - I've studied it quite a lot during my education. Lastly, I stand by what I said about the police inciting violence - at the second protest they kettled people into an area with an empty police van.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub That police van was left there by mistake and are you suggesting that the death of ian tomlinson was down to pure brutallity from heartless thugs? No i don't think so because it wasn't! Ian tomlinsons death was tragic but the it did not come down to the police and i think if you look at some videos and read previous headlines you can see that clearly we didn't start this violence! It was down to pure STUDENT SCUM.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 what, a police van was left in the middle of a prepared kettle for AN HOUR while protestors were shepherded in by mistake? I don't think so. How do you explain Jody McIntyre being pulled out of his wheelchair twice when he clearly posed no threat? Police officers like you are the scum, you're a disgrace to yourselves, your families, good police officers, the met, and above all the claim that we live in a democracy.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Jody mcintyre was lucky he wasn't shot on the spot by the met! for his stupid actions. That was no mistake, he disobeyed a police order and so was pulled to safety as he posed a threat to endanger others in the environment. And if police officers like me were scum how do you think i made it to inspector eh? Just by sitting there and taking shit from prats like you? NO i hope after this argument you do not frown upon the fact that we DO live in a democracy!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 A boy in a wheelchair poses no threat to anyone's safety. Maybe if he had a gun, but he didn't, the police did. How did you make it to inspector if you're scum? Well because the people who promoted you are scum, probably also the kind who think disabled students should be shot for not asking 'how high?' when instructed by the police to jump. Final fact: 2010 election turnout was 65%, conservative vote share was 36% - the majority do not want the conservatives. Is that democracy?
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub The boy in a wheelchair did pose a threat as he was standing in the middle of a cavalry charge! We dragged him to the side of the road for his own safety, and whether or not the majority do not want the conservatives i'm afraid the conservatives still got into parliament though didn't they! i would call that a democracy.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 "I would call that democracy" hence my point about you having no conception of political theory. The Nazi's got into parliament didn't they? Well i suppose its okay then, Nazi Germany was sufficiently democratic.
And good on him for blocking a police charge, I suppose you'd advocate the shooting of tankman as well, for blocking the tank charge into Tiananmen Square. Interesting how you think he was endangering people by stopping horses from charging into them.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub How the hell can you compare the conservatives to Nazi Germany? You can't. It is you who clearly has no conception of political theory just because you can't have everything YOUR WAY (Which doesn't have to happen all the time in a democracy) you decide to rant at everybody you come into contact with and i don't see what's 'interesting' about my comment on jody mcintyre endangering people by stopping horses from charging!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 it's interesting because I would think being on the receiving end of a horse charge is a dangerous situation to find yourself in. Sure my comparison was a little extreme, but the fact remains that just because a party gets into government doesn't mean it has democratic legitimacy, like the Nazis, and the current government. What the current situation has highlighted is that democratic deficit is endemic in our electoral and governmental system - it's broken.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub I will agree with you that it has broken but the way the public has reacted to it is far beyond shocking! I mean student demonstrations? WHAT THE HELL! is a stupid demonstration gonna do? NOTHING it is a total waste of time and look at the consequences of it, injured policeman and an even angrier government! and he was endangering the policeman who were riding the horses.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 God forbid the policemen who are attempting to trample innocent and perhaps guilty alike get hurt, that would be such a tragedy.
It may seem pointless to you, but to sit back and let people lose their jobs, access to education, access to good healthcare, pensions etc - everything the state provides, without saying a word in opposition would be an enormous injustice to ourselves.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Yes that would be a tragedy! Especially as my brother is a mounted policeman! But because we live in a DEMOCRACY you're not suppost to go around and shouting things protesting you are suppost to have enormous injustice to yourselves it's what a democracy is all about you sit there vote and the government take care of the rest then if you don't like it vote for a better party.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 If our votes counted for anything - if the make up of parliament actually reflected electoral results I would partially agree. The one part I would still disagree with is that we're not supposed to demonstrate/protest - that's a remarkably authoritarian point of view, democracy is rule by the people, and thus they should be allowed to make their opinions known. It's alarming but not surprising that a policeman doesn't believe in the right of free assembly or free speech.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Have you seen the havoc that assembly for free speech has caused? We are absolutely hated as a nation now for having idiots run around the street giving our government the say so. I find it ridiculous and i find it extremely alarming that A member of the public doesn't agree with me!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Where the hell did you get the idea that we're internationally hated for the protests? Anti-government protests in the middle east are being internationally praised. You appear to be grasping at proverbial straws sir.
So you find it ridiculous and alarming that a member of the public doesn't like being told to shut up and know their place? Go read some Locke, Paine, Rousseau, Marx and Kropotkin, then re-enter the discussion - it's pointless arguing with someone who has no clue.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Oh and some Chomsky and Foucault as well, they're very good.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub I think you also need to control who you're talking to!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@thetexandub I think i'm doing a hell of a lot better than you for someone who has served under the term democracy for over 10 years!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 It's awesome how I've gotten you so riled up you aren't even making sense anymore XD
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub How am i not making sense anymore? You said in your previous comment 'it's pointless arguing with someone who has no clue' and i replied i'm doing a hell of a lot better than you meaning that i have more of a clue on this topic than you! And just so you don't walk around pleased with yourself any longer you haven't gotten me all riled up. I'm just warming myself up for the long arguments to come!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Saying that you have a clue doesn't mean you actually do, if you'd addressed any of my arguments then maybe I'd continue to engage with you, but you're not actually engaging with me, only telling me I'm wrong without providing any evidence. Quite frankly I have better things to do than argue with a man who has the mindset of a child in discussion.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Well i'm glad your not willing to argue with me anymore because there is no point for someone who hasn't even bothered researching the term of Democracy or finding out what happened the last time this country had the conservatives in parliament, i should hope after your tricky, little brain gets an idea round this comment you will realise that i too do not wish to argue with you anymore!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 I don't need to 'research the term of democracy' - I've studied it, it's part of my degree, can you say the same? Again, I don't need to 'find out what happened the last time this country had the conservatives in power', I've studied it, for 4 consecutive years, as part of my A levels and my degree; I know what it was like, undoubtedly with a better political and economic understanding of how terrible it was. Now sit down, have a coke and a smile and hush =]
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Okay little boy! Now you are starting to agitate me just a little bit if i were to catch your name or address i would have you shot by a firing squad!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 lol.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Oh so you find that funny? Can't you grow up for 3 seconds! or are you really that immature.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 I'm not the one who takes a political discussion down to 'tell me where you live so i can come and shoot you' Johnny boy. You're supposedly a grown man, act like one.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub You're being immature so i am! I can act how i want over the internet without you telling me what to do.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 This is why I lol'd in the first place; you're either a troll, in which case well done, I've had a lot fun =], and if you're not then then you're a very small man throwing a hissy fit because you can't defend your ill-considered views.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub I have no ill-considered views they are the right ones i'm just trying to teach you the same! Obviously your arrogance will have none of it, and anyways if you must know i'm 6ft 4inches so i'm neither of the options you said.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 If you want to teach, then address the points I raise rather than dismissing them out of hand; it's quite clear that this to you is an argument, not a discussion, meaning all you want out of this is a victory. Tell your ego to calm down, and do some reading; I'm not saying that in a one-up-manship kind of way, I mean it genuinely - do some reading, even if you arrive at the same illogical, morally bankrupt beliefs, you'll be able to argue them more convincingly, with dignity.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub What is to teach when your views are profoundly undemocratic? that is addressing your points
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 That really doesn't address anything I'm afraid Johnny, that was simply a statement (which happens to be false) using words I used previously; flashy but unsubstantial, and certainly not a thorough refutation of anything I have said.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub It addresses everything about you!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Cool story bro.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub What do you mean 'cool story' or are you changing the subject to make you not look like an idiot?
Jonny30284 11 months ago
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@Jonny30284 "I find it ridiculous and i find it extremely alarming that A member of the public doesn't agree with me!"
Ah! Now I get it. This is a wind-up done with your tongue very firmly in cheek. You are not in the Metropolitan Police at all, are you?
keowno 11 months ago
@keowno Yes i am i am an inspector trying to Educate idiots like you!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Oh dear. I seem to have hit a raw nerve since you have nothing better to do than converse with uneducated 'Idiots' like myself. Since we are on the subject of education lets examine your reply to me. I quote you verbatim. 'Yes i am i am an inspector trying to Educate idiots like you!"
The letter I is always capitalised. After yes I am you require a full stop. The word Inspector is capitalised also and the word educate should be in lower case. Not bad for an uneducated idiot.
keowno 11 months ago
@keowno I didn't use my grammatical ability to my full potential because i was trying to save time on typing the comment!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
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keowno 11 months ago
@keowno But that's the best thing about being in the Met you can work and be on youtube at the same time!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Sir. You are a good wind-up merchant but that's all you are. You've been sussed. Caught bang to rights.
keowno 11 months ago
@keowno How have i been caught bang to rights? I'm a nice friendly policeman expressing his opinion as far as me and my bosses are concerned
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 My bosses and I, Jonny. My bosses and I. Grammar, grammar, grammar.
keowno 11 months ago
@keowno WHO CARES about my grammar, Nobody! You're just trying to draw attention to yourself. Well it ain't working i see your also trying to change the subject idiot i'm still waiting on an explanation of how i've been caught 'bang to rights'
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Jonny dear boy. Calm down it's only a friendly You Tube wind-up. I am going to bed now so please don't bother replying. In fact, don't bother replying at all. I can't be bothered bandying words with someone who is not au fait with the English Language.
keowno 11 months ago
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@Jonny30284 Why bother typing the comment at all that would save even more time. I repeat. I do not believe you are who you say you are. However, if you are, wouldn't it be better if you spent more time on being an excellent Police Officer and Colleague to your Fellow Officers than trying to disseminate propaganda on You Tube. I am a busy man I have no time for this kind of piffle, and , I suggest neither do you.
keowno 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 You don't do irony, do you? " WHAT THE HELL! is a stupid demonstration gonna do"? Egypt, Tunisia, Libya and counting. All uprisings which started from WAIT FOR IT! DEMONSTRATIONS.
keowno 11 months ago
@keowno My Force will prevent such uprisings and quickly distribute London with Police state powers!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 I wish you understood just how immoral your views on who you serve are, they are profoundly undemocratic.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Well unfortunately fo you three quaters of the Met think the same as i do! so they can't be immoral.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 'So they can't be immoral'? all that means is that 3/4 of the met are bastards who are in the job just because they like the feeling of personal empowerment which their badge grants them - a fact already well known.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub No it means you are living in a dreamworld and us police officers are right!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Okay, well obviously I'm talking to a brick wall with no conception of political theory, basic ethics or compassion, and this discussion is seeming increasingly pointless. I'm sure you'll enjoy the feeling of empowerment next time you beat an innocent on behalf of her majesty and our un-mandated government, but I sincerely hope (probably in vain) that eventually you'll grow a conscience and find it difficult to sleep at night. Happy kettling!
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Rest assured i will have no second thoughts about beating innocent people who deserve it!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Oh and I know I just bowed out of the discussion, but this one I can't resist - "Do the police a favour and stay at home with your thoughts!" - Thought police! LOL
I'm sorry but you really served us that one on a silver platter.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub I don't find that funny at all! That person was encouraging the innocent beating of police officers at demonstrations over this site! So i did not serve you anything on a silver platter.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Well it's nice to know that you think the beating of police officers is "innocent" as well as the beating of protestors, at least you're not discriminatory with your views on violence =P
Seriously you're making this too easy for me.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub The beating of some protestors ISN'T innocent because they encourage violence and then incite it! let me remind you i am an inspector of a police force i will not make anything EASY for you!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 You're english is getting so muddled it's hard to understand what point you're trying to make, it's a little worrying that we live in a country where a man can get to the level of TSG inspector without a junior-school level of literacy, but from what I gather you're saying it's okay to beat protestors in self-defense. Sure it is, but that rarely comes into it as the mountain of video evidence shows.
ps. you can't encourage and then incite, semantically they're very, very similar.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub I'm sorry YOUR ROYAL HIGHNESS i will correct my 'poor' grammatical terms and yes it is ok to beat protestors in self defence and with the amount of student protest videos on youtube we here at the Met are not short of any evidence to suggest NO wrong doing, and although the words encourage and incite are indeed very, very similar you can use them in the same sentence because they practically mean different things.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 So the myriad videos which show police doing things like punching students in the head because they won't step back (maybe because they're all kettled into a small area with no room to move) shows no wrong doing?
Yes, they can mean different things, but the way in which you used them was tautological. And neither actually involve committing violence, so you can't use 'self-defence' to justify beating someone for encouraging or inciting violence.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Yes you can because they are causing a nuisance of themselves and will be arrested under section 5 breach of the peace in a public area! Also if these videos do show police wrong doing (Which they don't because i have checked a vast majority of them on YT) how come none of my officers or indeed the entire Met force have either been suspended or sacked for misconduct in a public office? PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT.
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 I will, it's actually remarkably easy to explain - it's not in the government's or Judges or prosecutors interests to pursue officers who abuse their power.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub Oh sure of course it's not, that's how a police officer was jailed for class A drug dealing a couple of weeks ago? either you don't understand the terms of Democracy or you have started your dreamworld illusions again!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
@Jonny30284 Drug dealing is not in the government's interests, suppressing dissent is. Either you're evading the points of my arguments or you're stupid, I'm going to assume the former, so please stop being evasive, it's not constructive to the discussion.
thetexandub 11 months ago
@thetexandub No i'm just dictating everything you say because you clearly have no clue yourself1 Please i ask you to think before you type!
Jonny30284 11 months ago
Put yourself in the police shoes. Far outnumbered and facing thugs with masks and sticks. How would you react as an individual carrying a shield and batton? Fact is ALOT of thugs took part in your protest and it makes your side esponsible for the result. Tuition fee policy is unfair, but we all suffer hardship. Working and suffering pay freezes, below inflation pay rises etc. How many of you are passionate for eductation anyway? Some of you are thugs who took the opportunity to riot.
Tube2097 1 year ago
The British police are not the best in the world the police in the uk are so shit
cann111 1 year ago
The idea that the police provoked violence is complete and utter nonsense. The police have nothing to gain and a substantial amount to lose from rioting. The police were acting with proactive, legally justified and necessary steps to ensure everyone's safety. That's why British police are the best in the world
edjthompson 1 year ago
@edjthompson
But when you spend some time at one of those protests and you feel the generaly atmosphere, I began to fear the police. In this country you should not fear the police, they should make you feel safe.. but I know a girl who was dragged by her hair to the ground just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A boy I know tried to climb a wall to escape the kettle and was pulled down by the police and kicked. I was also hit for no reason.
rosydonut 1 year ago
@rosydonut I don't see your point. You shouldn't have gone in the first place. And yes, in this situation fear is exactly what you should be experiencing.
edjthompson 1 year ago
@edjthompson
The majority of people went to that protest to protest peacefully. The news focused on the violent parts of the protest.
Why should I not have gone? I will be the one who has to pay the money. My point is that if the police had not kettled us then the protest may not have even got violent in the first place.
rosydonut 1 year ago
@rosydonut You say that you will be the one who has to pay the money as if you shouldn't have to. If you got yourself in the position that was likely to get you hurt in the first place then you deserved it. Kettling is a very effective preventative measure that I hope will continue to be used.
edjthompson 1 year ago
@queeniebee
Just goes to show how powerless the police will be when the people do rise up properly.
What can they do 1000 to 1? Nothing! :D
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
@ourhandsaretied
So if the Police were disbanded who would protect the likes of you lot?
In a world of anarchy it would become survival of the fittest and I can guarantee that much as you lot think you're tough, you would not survive. I very much doubt that all of you 'committed to the cause' would be sticking together against the rest of the world either.
The thing is, it will suddenly hit you all one day just what you have done by acting like thugs and damaging property and people!
ExtremeSportRacer 1 year ago
@ExtremeSportRacer
I'm not an anarchist, incidentally. I do know that we need a police force; the point is that we need one to impartially enforce the law, not being the unjust arm of the fascist state.
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
@queeniebee121
Very funny. Are you trying to make out you aren't a thug yourself with these comments?
Classic projection issues!!!!!
ExtremeSportRacer 1 year ago
@ExtremeSportRacer
All violence towards the police is in response to their horrendous and illegal actions! They are scum; they are pond life and when the revoluition comes they will inevitably be on the wrong side.
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
foolish students bit off a little more than they could chew
Gurn92 1 year ago
@Gurn92
You support the police's violence?
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago
@ourhandsaretied i don't support any unnecessary violence the police may use, but the students do seem to be a little too rowdy
Gurn92 1 year ago
@Gurn92
Then please answer me these two questions
What do you deem necessary/unneccesary violence?
And how do you think the students (remember, it's not ONLY students) should make their case, considering that any peaceful protests will be just brushed to once side and ignored by the powers that be?
ourhandsaretied 1 year ago