the europeans have done so much evil as a group that it is hard to not equate them all with evil. i don't understand why these things happen. if the christian god is so great,why did he sit up there on his throne and allow this to happen?
These things happen because power got to the heads of the leadership, the the perspectives of the Europeans were much different then than now. They believed themselves to be justified, because of their civilization, military, politics and culture. Which, due to being able to expand as an empire, led them to see themselves as the apex of the human race; thus believing that all other cultures should follow the same path. God has no place in this, it is a complete human endeavor.
@Shrike2101 you did not answer my question. all i heard was passive language "because power got to the heads of leadership" and so on. no,it is because they are evil. africans visited america before the whites and left peacefully. why didn't the europeans do the same as the africans?
Because of my previous post, the Euorpeans believed in God, Glory and Gold (look up that phrase sometime). The Europeans wanted wanted cheap labour as a result of the Industrial revolution; thus their expeditions were sent out for slave labour. Plantations served to fuel the industrial beast; this combined with their 'apex culture-esq' attitude led to the oppression and abuse of the African people. The Europeans wanted something and this was the best way to achieve it.
And yet Africans in Africa are still allowing Europeans to manipulate them, cause wars between them, influence how they rule and reap the resources of our land to this very day. The brainless fools.
@KickWhitesOutAfrica.... It's O.K, kid, don't worry. The Chinese have bought-up almost the entire known african copper(amongst others) resources for the next 50 years - with options to "extend" their ownership of any african mineral resources that may be discovered - in return for building schools, hospitals, hot-dog stands, etc. And that's Great ain't it?!!. SO much better than having White folks.
Yeah, but when the Europeans start taking taking their pick of the land, did you notice that Ethiopia was the only one left standing independently not having been overthrown? Why do you think that would be? I think it was because they were the first to convert to Christianity. How could the Europeans mow through All of Africa, even so called Egypt but nothing happens to Ethiopia?
Structural Monetary Programs to pay back the IMF? Progenitor of TARP? What is the national debt of the U.S." 13 trillion dollars? That is a lot of monetary programming for the future, no?
@sitabanu Axum, Abyssinia, or Ethiopia as it's contemporarily known in the West had been a kingdom for thousands of years prior to European colonialism. Ethiopia and Italy's relationship started out commercially. The Italians sold arms to the Ethiopians before trying to trick them into becoming a colony. Ethiopia resisted and won.
The Italians came back after WWI and conquered Ethiopia with their more advanced post-war weaponry and chemical weapons. They were freed by England during WWII
@KickWhitesOutAfrica We do it because of our humanity and wanting to get along with everybody. Black people thinks everybody is our friends. The past 2000yrs and more we haven't had any friends. When we realize other groups of people recognize their interest and survival first. Then we will think and do black first period.
@tinmahanb Americans, maybe. But Europeans and Chinese get along just fine. By the way, many Chinese are white by their skin color, Koreans and Japanese even more so.
"We must bear in mind that imperialism is a world system, the last stage of capitalism - and it must be defeated in a world confrontation. We must eliminate the foundations of imperialism: our oppressed nations, from where they extract capitals, raw materials, technicians and cheap labor, and to which they export new capitals - instruments of domination - arms and all kinds of articles; thus submerging us in an absolute dependence." — CHE GUEVARA
africa was and is a shithole. they badly needed britain to bring them out of there impoverished lives and barbarous cultures. its just unfortunate for them that britain wasnt the only power in the world and lost its empire after defeating the nazis and the japs.
had the brits been able to stay the course ive got no doubt that their colonies would have flourished (as much as african people can flourish). africans weren't/arent ready for independence in the modern world.
@theheretic999 Can I just ask a question. Do u think there was extreme poverty in Africa b4 colonisation? U must be self deluded 2 think colonisation did us any good. In fact it was equally as terrible as the legacy of slave trade. Europeans decimated Africa by annexin tribes that have nothin in common. 4 u 2 stupidly think that Africa can just work without resolvin the injustice perpetrated by the Europeans, then, carry on attending ur pubs with ur workin class mates and keep on shoutin Britani
But when african "countries" asked for their independance, didn't they asked european countries do get out immediatelly as if they would take care of things? not a criticism, i am trying to learn :)
The colonies may have asked for the impearialists to leave, but that doesn't mean the people knew what they were getting into. And the Europeans should have pulled out, but after they built a stable republic. So even if the people asked the Europeans to leave it doesn't mean that they should have pulled out so quickly and without nation building. By deciding to colonize and then decolonize, a country should take the responsiblity to build a republic for the colony whether they want it or not.
didn't Britain have to spend all their money on defending and bringing england out of rationing and chaos after ww2, which is when most of GB's colonies withdrew. Potentially like having history repeat itself when the roman empire withdrew after 450 occupancy in britania. Do you reckon Britain had the man power or £$£ to construct a proper republic in that time, or was it because they wern't truly sympathetic? thanks 4 your correspondance:)
Well, they might not have had the ability to push such a move. However they did have the ability to keep the colonies until they could. It is unclear to me whether the rest could or could not, but I am fairly certain that Britain could have kept their colonies until a future date. Of course another problem is how artificial the boundaries of the African countries are. Thank you very much for the discussion, I really enjoy it.
yeah, europe didn't take much consideration into the tribes in africa, who had been fighting for centuries before the scramble, when they developed contemporary boundries for todays african countries. I am taking a pol/history and sociology degree in september. so this chatting helps
Caucasians my have ancestry responsible for suffering, but we gain absolutely nothing, dizzy613, by being ashamed of something we had no control over.
The only thing anybody has to feel guilty over is the suffering that they allow to happen in their own time. "White guilt" is not remembering the past or rational. In fact, it is used in the service of complacency, because if you obsess over past atrocities, nobody will blame you for not stopping modern ones.
Ronald Reagan Okumu, your parents are idiots for giving a name of a douche. SMH.
blackbolt75 4 months ago
@eristars The scramble for africa is not a unique case in history. so its just repeated things from earlier times
ByabyaChannel 5 months ago
the europeans have done so much evil as a group that it is hard to not equate them all with evil. i don't understand why these things happen. if the christian god is so great,why did he sit up there on his throne and allow this to happen?
cherubicnerd 6 months ago
@cherubicnerd
These things happen because power got to the heads of the leadership, the the perspectives of the Europeans were much different then than now. They believed themselves to be justified, because of their civilization, military, politics and culture. Which, due to being able to expand as an empire, led them to see themselves as the apex of the human race; thus believing that all other cultures should follow the same path. God has no place in this, it is a complete human endeavor.
Shrike2101 5 months ago
@Shrike2101 you did not answer my question. all i heard was passive language "because power got to the heads of leadership" and so on. no,it is because they are evil. africans visited america before the whites and left peacefully. why didn't the europeans do the same as the africans?
cherubicnerd 5 months ago
@cherubicnerd
Because of my previous post, the Euorpeans believed in God, Glory and Gold (look up that phrase sometime). The Europeans wanted wanted cheap labour as a result of the Industrial revolution; thus their expeditions were sent out for slave labour. Plantations served to fuel the industrial beast; this combined with their 'apex culture-esq' attitude led to the oppression and abuse of the African people. The Europeans wanted something and this was the best way to achieve it.
Shrike2101 5 months ago
We are supposed to listen to Noam Chomsky talk about that?
What happened to the native Americans?
psikeyhackr 8 months ago
Do you think they would ever show this in an English school!
JediMastaWyn 9 months ago 8
@JediMastaWyn Great question!
tw1704 7 months ago
dont worry we are going to do something about it,we have time on our hands,the land titles will be cancelled.
babyfacemonk1968 1 year ago
And yet Africans in Africa are still allowing Europeans to manipulate them, cause wars between them, influence how they rule and reap the resources of our land to this very day. The brainless fools.
KickWhitesOutAfrica 1 year ago
@KickWhitesOutAfrica.... It's O.K, kid, don't worry. The Chinese have bought-up almost the entire known african copper(amongst others) resources for the next 50 years - with options to "extend" their ownership of any african mineral resources that may be discovered - in return for building schools, hospitals, hot-dog stands, etc. And that's Great ain't it?!!. SO much better than having White folks.
slideharp1 1 year ago
Yeah, but when the Europeans start taking taking their pick of the land, did you notice that Ethiopia was the only one left standing independently not having been overthrown? Why do you think that would be? I think it was because they were the first to convert to Christianity. How could the Europeans mow through All of Africa, even so called Egypt but nothing happens to Ethiopia?
sitabanu 1 year ago
What 1986? Ronald Reagan Okumu !
sitabanu 1 year ago
Structural Monetary Programs to pay back the IMF? Progenitor of TARP? What is the national debt of the U.S." 13 trillion dollars? That is a lot of monetary programming for the future, no?
sitabanu 1 year ago
@sitabanu The Ethiopeans won the battle of Adwa.
alyskb23 1 year ago
@sitabanu Axum, Abyssinia, or Ethiopia as it's contemporarily known in the West had been a kingdom for thousands of years prior to European colonialism. Ethiopia and Italy's relationship started out commercially. The Italians sold arms to the Ethiopians before trying to trick them into becoming a colony. Ethiopia resisted and won.
The Italians came back after WWI and conquered Ethiopia with their more advanced post-war weaponry and chemical weapons. They were freed by England during WWII
EmileA266 11 months ago
@KickWhitesOutAfrica We do it because of our humanity and wanting to get along with everybody. Black people thinks everybody is our friends. The past 2000yrs and more we haven't had any friends. When we realize other groups of people recognize their interest and survival first. Then we will think and do black first period.
arronnov 10 months ago
@KickWhitesOutAfrica Dont worry The Chinese will kick out these white people and the imf.
tinmahanb 8 months ago
@tinmahanb Americans, maybe. But Europeans and Chinese get along just fine. By the way, many Chinese are white by their skin color, Koreans and Japanese even more so.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
fascinating
Nernel 1 year ago
so basically Euro empower racism within a race, and after they pull out, the 2 group fight each other for control?
coyotx 1 year ago
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foxmiUK 2 years ago
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"We must bear in mind that imperialism is a world system, the last stage of capitalism - and it must be defeated in a world confrontation. We must eliminate the foundations of imperialism: our oppressed nations, from where they extract capitals, raw materials, technicians and cheap labor, and to which they export new capitals - instruments of domination - arms and all kinds of articles; thus submerging us in an absolute dependence." — CHE GUEVARA
4Barbudos 2 years ago
africa was and is a shithole. they badly needed britain to bring them out of there impoverished lives and barbarous cultures. its just unfortunate for them that britain wasnt the only power in the world and lost its empire after defeating the nazis and the japs.
had the brits been able to stay the course ive got no doubt that their colonies would have flourished (as much as african people can flourish). africans weren't/arent ready for independence in the modern world.
theheretic999 2 years ago
@theheretic999 Can I just ask a question. Do u think there was extreme poverty in Africa b4 colonisation? U must be self deluded 2 think colonisation did us any good. In fact it was equally as terrible as the legacy of slave trade. Europeans decimated Africa by annexin tribes that have nothin in common. 4 u 2 stupidly think that Africa can just work without resolvin the injustice perpetrated by the Europeans, then, carry on attending ur pubs with ur workin class mates and keep on shoutin Britani
afroguard 2 years ago
Well if our continent, is a shithole, then asshole, what the bloody hell where you doing there?
peasah2005 1 year ago
Noam Chomsky, I love him. He is a man with values.
Siobhan1234 2 years ago
I think that much of the terrible things in Africa could have been avoided if Europe slowly created a stable government as they pulled out.
ourananastasia 2 years ago
But when african "countries" asked for their independance, didn't they asked european countries do get out immediatelly as if they would take care of things? not a criticism, i am trying to learn :)
foxmiUK 2 years ago
The colonies may have asked for the impearialists to leave, but that doesn't mean the people knew what they were getting into. And the Europeans should have pulled out, but after they built a stable republic. So even if the people asked the Europeans to leave it doesn't mean that they should have pulled out so quickly and without nation building. By deciding to colonize and then decolonize, a country should take the responsiblity to build a republic for the colony whether they want it or not.
ourananastasia 2 years ago
didn't Britain have to spend all their money on defending and bringing england out of rationing and chaos after ww2, which is when most of GB's colonies withdrew. Potentially like having history repeat itself when the roman empire withdrew after 450 occupancy in britania. Do you reckon Britain had the man power or £$£ to construct a proper republic in that time, or was it because they wern't truly sympathetic? thanks 4 your correspondance:)
foxmiUK 2 years ago
Well, they might not have had the ability to push such a move. However they did have the ability to keep the colonies until they could. It is unclear to me whether the rest could or could not, but I am fairly certain that Britain could have kept their colonies until a future date. Of course another problem is how artificial the boundaries of the African countries are. Thank you very much for the discussion, I really enjoy it.
ourananastasia 2 years ago
yeah, europe didn't take much consideration into the tribes in africa, who had been fighting for centuries before the scramble, when they developed contemporary boundries for todays african countries. I am taking a pol/history and sociology degree in september. so this chatting helps
foxmiUK 2 years ago
Caucasians my have ancestry responsible for suffering, but we gain absolutely nothing, dizzy613, by being ashamed of something we had no control over.
The only thing anybody has to feel guilty over is the suffering that they allow to happen in their own time. "White guilt" is not remembering the past or rational. In fact, it is used in the service of complacency, because if you obsess over past atrocities, nobody will blame you for not stopping modern ones.
BannedCinema 2 years ago
Caucasians should be ashamed of their ancesters.
dizzy613 2 years ago
Guilty
of a racist crime
Guilty
I've only served
Guilty
Nineteen years of my time
Charged with something that I didn't do
I've lynched somebody but I don't know who
You blame me for slavery 100 years before I was born
Guilty of being white
BannedCinema 2 years ago
Yeah, that's totally what I get from this video... YOU'RE the victim here.
Feel free to climb the hell down off that cross and join us in the real world any time.
NaturalGrace 2 years ago
way to go, that's totally not what I said
of course white people are NOT the victims here
I was responding to a person who was under the impression that people should feel "ashamed of their [ancestors]", which i think is horse shit
I am not responsible for slavery: I have never owned a slave nor do I live in a nation that allows or condones slavery
That said, I do take it as my responsibility to protect minorities (or ANYBODY) from being exploited in any form
BannedCinema 2 years ago
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foxmiUK 2 years ago
I am.
edavismookie25 2 years ago
yea they should have done a better job in africa, i would love to live i kenya own a nice large ranch
kubaniski 2 years ago
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If i lived in old days i would have a slave family working for me and i would fuck their virgins.
StemDFpiaK 3 years ago
and I don't mean all of you either don't twist my words, but a very strong percent are fucking evil now hate!
trice702 3 years ago
trice702 u r right about that thanks 4 the video 2 and nice comments
87UNC 3 years ago
Just evil vile people and they call us animals who are the true animals I mean really!
trice702 3 years ago
My Ap World is learning this, its seems so harsh living in that year.
123chen 3 years ago
The white race, the most disgraceful race...
eristars 3 years ago 10
@eristars Arabs did similar thing, and other races too over the course of history.
It's called DIVIDE & CONQUER, oldest rule in the book. Used by EVERYONE.
Europeans just were too fucking effective in it.
OnlyLifeMatters 1 month ago
The narator voice is very sexy!
mAzArE13 3 years ago