such a shame they deactivated a bunch of these firearms, and if you try to find one it's a high asking price. Should've picked up one that had a 9mm conversion already on it, shame on me.
@TheChevroletnova The MAS-38 is (24.53 in) long with a (8.82 in) barrel; it weighs (6.33 lb) empty. It uses a 32 round box magazine. The muzzle velocity is (1,148 ft/s) and it has a rate of fire of 600 to 700 round/min.
The MAS-38 is easily recognizable due to its seemingly bent barrel assembly. This is because the receiver and butt diverge in alignment from the axis of the barrel by several degrees. To make the weapon compact its bolt recoils inside a tube running through the buttstock .
@TheChevroletnova To allow a natural aiming stance, the butt had to drop while the receiver had remain in alignment. This required that the bolt approach the breech at an angle and the face of the bolt was cut obliquely to allow it to close evenly on the cartridge. The MAS-38 also features an unusual safety catch: the bolt was locked (in either the forward or rear position) by pushing the trigger forward. A valuable feature was that tools were not required for its disassembly.
@TheChevroletnova A very high quality weapon, the MAS-38 was machined from solid steel and only a few parts were stampings. It was designed with a buffered sear assembly to prevent wear and increase the life of the internal parts. A dual range sight system was concealed within the receiver so as to be out of sight until it was flipped up for use.
@TheChevroletnova The odd appearance of the MAS-38 did not detract from its accuracy, but its cartridge was underpowered compared to the German 9mm standard pistol ammunition. However this cannot have made any difference to the outcome of the Battle of France, and in any event the German army seized the MAS plant in 1940 just as the MAS-38 was entering large-scale production. The Germans accepted the gun as a substitute standard weapon, naming it the 7.65 mm MP722(f).
@TheChevroletnova .32 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), also known as the .32 Automatic is a pistol cartridge. It is a semi-rimmed, straight-walled cartridge developed by firearms designer John Browning, initially for use in the FN M1900 semi-automatic pistol. It was introduced in 1899 by Fabrique Nationale, and is also known as the 7.65x17mm Browning SR or 7.65 mm Browning.
@TheChevroletnova he 7.65×20mm Longue (also known as 7.65mm French Longue, 7.65 mm Long, 7.65mm MAS, 7.65×20mm, and 7.65L) was a straight, rimless cartridge used in the French Modele 1935 pistols, as well as the MAS-38 submachine gun.
@TheChevroletnova The US .30 Pedersen cartridge (or .30-18 Automatic) used in the Pedersen device was the basis for the 7.65×20mm Longue, the dimensions being identical. The French military were introduced to the cartridge when the US demonstrated the Pedersen device after the end of World War I in LeMans and again when John Browning exhibited a carbine in the same caliber in 1920.
7.65×20mm Longue ammunition was manufactured in quantity from approximately 1935 to 1960.
did you see that muzzle flip? no? becasue there was none... this guns ugly duckling looks makes it one of the easiest to shoot light automatic weapons ever. it has a recoil spring as long as it's stock... inside the stock, obviously. the only bad things about it are it's french (only two good things come from france, french girls and french fries) and it fires the 7.65 long cartridge... shitty bullet...
Ah! I found it! My granddad picked one of these up off the battlefield in France during WWII. I've only seen the gun once when I was five. I've never been able to figure out which gun it was. I just happened to come across this video, and I'd never heard of this gun before. What are the odds?
Beautiful weapon for close in your face combat and has a nice sharp decent barrel for steady swift aiming when you need it 1950's dien bien phu was this gun's era.
@TheStupidoes I hardly see any resemblance with the MP/STG44, this has no handguard, a straight, small magazine, and fires from an open bolt if i'm correct.
The MAS 38, like the MAS 36 and the FM 24/29 of the same period, has a lot of appeal. Unlike them, however, it did not prove itself in a real battlefield.The gun and its cartridge was incredibly weak. I'm sure the Vichy murdered a lot of defenseless people with it but the battlefield experience of a Para in 1949-50 proves it wasn't fit for field duty. He saw 4 out of 5 break down completely in a few weeks. A 9mmP conversion would have probably shook to pieces like the .30-06 Chauchats.
that would be a pretty tight gun for cqb or guard duty. french quality wasnt always perfect and more powerful guns were popular during the 40's but this might need to make more showings for ww2 fps games haha
@iggyvb Here's a little FPS anecdote about this gun. In COD 2:Big Red One the first full stage you fight through is in North Africa against the Vichy French. In a sad example of either complete ignorance of the weapons available to the Axis at that time, the Vichy French(who actually surrendered or switched sides three days after the American landings) fight fiercely with ROCKET LAUNCHERS and literally more MAS 38 and FM 24/29s than the French Army of Africa ever had!
The only disadvantage of the MAS 38 was its cartridge, not powerful enough. But few people know today that this cartridge, The "7,65 Long" was a developpment of the American .30 Perdersen prototype cartridge. Some years after WW I, the French hat tested a submachine gun with some interesting features in caliber 9 mm Luger : the STA 24, and after WW II, they introduced another famous and quite efficient SMG : the MAT 49.
This submachine gun was very innovative with the angle of its downward angle to the axis of the bore. It made the automatic fire especially controllable. At my knowledge, the MAS 38 was the first gun to present this feature, which was adopted again later by the Finnish and famous Jatimatic submachine gun.
The MAS 38 was also well manufactured, very simple, and noticeably short and light at this time and in its range (compared with the Thompson, the Beretta 38, the Suomi for instance).
@paranoid19851 don't forget that the chauchat FM was built on a very large scale and quite on a hurry. The french version worked decently, contrary to the american version of the gun which has a special clip...
Unlike the Mauser C-96, the MAS-38 is due to be shoulder-fired only (its' rifle-butt was fixed), while the C-96 could be used as a hand-gun, even though a detachable rifle-butt was available for it.
Stg-44(mp44) uses a gas piston to cycle bullets through it like the AK rifle...this weapon has no SIGNS or SPACE for a gas piston...BTW have you guys noticed that this gun barely has any recoil?
This gun is very stable during the shot. The MAS 38 was still in dotation in the french Army during the Algeria war and in the national police until the end of the sixties.
Gotta hand it to the French they have had beaucoup experience combat testing submachine guns (SMG) before, during, and after World War II. Before getting real ambitious, they used Swiss- or German-made SMGs. Then in 1938, they came out with their own, MAS-38, developed from the World War I-era MAS-35, a derivation of the STA 1922 and the MAS 1924 both in 9 mm produced shortly after World War I.
@itsconnorstime He was shot by a gun with practically no recoil. It's a strange feeling. You'd imagine that he'd get his chest blown out by some high-powered rifle.
@Whatchatalkingbout I just googled it, there was something about it on the bbc website. It was donated to Albania aparently. Apart from that I've no idea.
Though, the MAS-38 has a somehow weak ammo compared to, say, MP-40 or Thompson M-1. And a reenactor told me that the MAS-38 was prone to fire by itself if it slammed the ground a bit too violently, as when you hit the ground after you make a dash for a cover. In that case, I wouldn't like to have one o' my team-mates behind me with that gun.
@anto1191 Let's see how any other army would have fared against the Nazis. Remember, the US had surrendered to a numerically and logistically-inferior army in the Philippines not long after. Same for the British in Malaya.
@anto1191 And the Germans still were winning when you could use the Berlin Subway to relocate from the east front to the west front. The Italiens had the balls to arrest Mussolini and stop fighting when it was ovious that the war was lost. Germans even were stupid enough to waste their precious ammo to completely level Warzaw when the Russians already were in sight.
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@Gorbachev lol- You havent seen the Chauchat then! A horrible French Gun. They gave up on gun quality just as easy as they gave up in the invasion in WW2
@spacesoviet59 yea first gun to jam once you fire 5 shots what would REALLY give the infantry power in WW1 was the mp18.1 which came way too late in the war
ridiculous...it was the first (FIRST) try to provide a LMG, at the squad level...nobody had done that before.
and for your 2nd assesment, buy you a book on the battle of france and you'll learn a lot about the fierce month of battle and th e heavy losses on both sides.
@148scalemodeling I don't know man the FAMAS rifle is pretty top notch not to mention their Mirage fighter jets have proved their worth for the last 50 years. Examples being Israel's domination of the skies with Mirage jets during the Six Day War up to current Mirage bombing operations the French themselves are doing in Libya. They do put out some great material. Unfortunately it seems that is overlooked here in the states because of anti-French sentiment.
Maybe, but that one tends to go off too easily when dropped or when it hits the ground too violently, like when the guy carrying it throws himself to the ground to take cover or to stay hidden.
The thing i love about the MAS38 is its reliability, its high rate of fire, its great sights, and it makes a cool sound like it is suppressed, similar to the sound of an M3a1
Yeah but the grease gun and the sten while easy to produce due to manufacturing were more complicated. This is a very simple and not to mention easy to replicate design.
That appears to be a very well made weapon. Can't help but notice that there is virtually no muzzle rise when it is fired, thanks to the unusual setup of the bolt running on a different axis from the barrel.
from what i understand of French pre-war training was that you never hip fired this weapon because you would end up only hitting your targets shins only
The catrdige was a direct copy of the pedersen device cartridge from ww1.Some of that ammo was studied by the french. This smg was used to kill Mussolini.
I am sure meanboy123 is mistaken, or else he must know some sort of secret history, unbeknownst to us. A gun from 1944 can never influence the designers of a gun made in 1938.
The other way around is more what I thought. The stg44 looks very much like this gun, and as I understand, this gun was used by the Germans after the defeat of France, so perhaps...
Well duder you'll have to keep looking because CoD2: Big Red One is the only game to have french and italian ww2 weaponry, i'm pretty sure i'm right about that.
The Germans after they occupied France allowed the French to keep making this gun and it eventually armed the Vichy French in North Africa. If you have played Call of Duty 2 for PS2 the second mission takes place in North Africa and you are fighting the Vichy French that is where I first heard and saw this weapon. The Germans as well as other countries used the design for reference in making new guns and probably did look to it and took some featers and incorporated them into the StG44.
Incorrect about North Africa. Although production continued, few were actually completed during the occupation, and this gun was almost non-existent outside of the Army of the Armistice in the unoccupied free zone of Vichy France (which other than one unit reconstituted later, was disbanded in 1942). The French North African Army had so few submachine guns of any type (the other would have been the 1924 STA) that the government didn't bother to keep records, lumping the category with pistols.
such a shame they deactivated a bunch of these firearms, and if you try to find one it's a high asking price. Should've picked up one that had a 9mm conversion already on it, shame on me.
MGSTube78 1 week ago
GUYS, this gun killed Mussolini so respect it lol
Sasai57 1 month ago
What caliber is it in?
laksemann 2 months ago
@laksemann 38.
TheChevroletnova 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova The MAS-38 is (24.53 in) long with a (8.82 in) barrel; it weighs (6.33 lb) empty. It uses a 32 round box magazine. The muzzle velocity is (1,148 ft/s) and it has a rate of fire of 600 to 700 round/min.
The MAS-38 is easily recognizable due to its seemingly bent barrel assembly. This is because the receiver and butt diverge in alignment from the axis of the barrel by several degrees. To make the weapon compact its bolt recoils inside a tube running through the buttstock .
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@MrBillcale ok?
TheChevroletnova 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova To allow a natural aiming stance, the butt had to drop while the receiver had remain in alignment. This required that the bolt approach the breech at an angle and the face of the bolt was cut obliquely to allow it to close evenly on the cartridge. The MAS-38 also features an unusual safety catch: the bolt was locked (in either the forward or rear position) by pushing the trigger forward. A valuable feature was that tools were not required for its disassembly.
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova A very high quality weapon, the MAS-38 was machined from solid steel and only a few parts were stampings. It was designed with a buffered sear assembly to prevent wear and increase the life of the internal parts. A dual range sight system was concealed within the receiver so as to be out of sight until it was flipped up for use.
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova The odd appearance of the MAS-38 did not detract from its accuracy, but its cartridge was underpowered compared to the German 9mm standard pistol ammunition. However this cannot have made any difference to the outcome of the Battle of France, and in any event the German army seized the MAS plant in 1940 just as the MAS-38 was entering large-scale production. The Germans accepted the gun as a substitute standard weapon, naming it the 7.65 mm MP722(f).
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova They continued production of the gun for their own armed forces and supplied some to the Vichy French.
On April 28, 1945, it was used by Italian partisans to shoot the former dictator Benito Mussolini
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova .32 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol), also known as the .32 Automatic is a pistol cartridge. It is a semi-rimmed, straight-walled cartridge developed by firearms designer John Browning, initially for use in the FN M1900 semi-automatic pistol. It was introduced in 1899 by Fabrique Nationale, and is also known as the 7.65x17mm Browning SR or 7.65 mm Browning.
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova he 7.65×20mm Longue (also known as 7.65mm French Longue, 7.65 mm Long, 7.65mm MAS, 7.65×20mm, and 7.65L) was a straight, rimless cartridge used in the French Modele 1935 pistols, as well as the MAS-38 submachine gun.
MrBillcale 2 months ago
@TheChevroletnova The US .30 Pedersen cartridge (or .30-18 Automatic) used in the Pedersen device was the basis for the 7.65×20mm Longue, the dimensions being identical. The French military were introduced to the cartridge when the US demonstrated the Pedersen device after the end of World War I in LeMans and again when John Browning exhibited a carbine in the same caliber in 1920.
7.65×20mm Longue ammunition was manufactured in quantity from approximately 1935 to 1960.
MrBillcale 2 months ago
did you see that muzzle flip? no? becasue there was none... this guns ugly duckling looks makes it one of the easiest to shoot light automatic weapons ever. it has a recoil spring as long as it's stock... inside the stock, obviously. the only bad things about it are it's french (only two good things come from france, french girls and french fries) and it fires the 7.65 long cartridge... shitty bullet...
cwross1976 2 months ago
it looks a little bit like the Mauser c96 with stock
StoneSlinging 3 months ago
Frenchies, y u no add forestock to front of weapon? Barrel burn my hand. :O
FearTheGremlin 3 months ago 3
Ah! I found it! My granddad picked one of these up off the battlefield in France during WWII. I've only seen the gun once when I was five. I've never been able to figure out which gun it was. I just happened to come across this video, and I'd never heard of this gun before. What are the odds?
gizmoguyar 3 months ago
pretty guns but without a foregrip are pretty uncomfortable for old school shooters
ButtsexV2 3 months ago
Brilliantly designed, but fails to look cool.
verfugbarkite 3 months ago
Beautiful weapon for close in your face combat and has a nice sharp decent barrel for steady swift aiming when you need it 1950's dien bien phu was this gun's era.
usnavysss 3 months ago
what calibur
MACEX1000 4 months ago
I have a MAS-38, it's extremely nice
But, as ttboy2004 said, it's kinda ugly
1oLwut 4 months ago
does it shoot little flags that say we surrender?
dodhdhdfdffgdhfonhdh 4 months ago
@dodhdhdfdffgdhfonhdh yeah, and the m16 shoots big ass, mcdonald filled rednecks too, you didn't know?
niksarass 3 months ago
What is it chambered in? 32ACP?
mst3k4evur 4 months ago
Holy Crap that had zero recoil! As it looked!
ShortCardinalsFan262 5 months ago
look at how ergonomic! French engineering at it's very finest.
SteezySteez2011 6 months ago
:o that gun seems to have little recoil
flaktank 6 months ago
@flaktank That's only because it's firing a really tiny pistol round, 7.5x17mm I believe.
TheHandgunhero 5 months ago
Looks like the TF2 sniper SMG.
whowantsabighug 6 months ago 16
@whowantsabighug i have a feeling it is ;D
MGSTube78 1 week ago
It's like a minnie version of the MP-44
TheStupidoes 6 months ago
@TheStupidoes I hardly see any resemblance with the MP/STG44, this has no handguard, a straight, small magazine, and fires from an open bolt if i'm correct.
MrThomPS3 6 months ago
what is the pin on the side?
Heat907 7 months ago
The MAS 38, like the MAS 36 and the FM 24/29 of the same period, has a lot of appeal. Unlike them, however, it did not prove itself in a real battlefield.The gun and its cartridge was incredibly weak. I'm sure the Vichy murdered a lot of defenseless people with it but the battlefield experience of a Para in 1949-50 proves it wasn't fit for field duty. He saw 4 out of 5 break down completely in a few weeks. A 9mmP conversion would have probably shook to pieces like the .30-06 Chauchats.
reddyeddy69 7 months ago
0 recoil 8O
FullM3TallJack3t 8 months ago
shot by partizans
Luciferdjin777 8 months ago
French weapon, looks to be in great condition.... only dropped once
FiedtheNeedIT1 8 months ago
Very good gun ! :D
heisenfeis 8 months ago
that would be a pretty tight gun for cqb or guard duty. french quality wasnt always perfect and more powerful guns were popular during the 40's but this might need to make more showings for ww2 fps games haha
iggyvb 9 months ago
@iggyvb Here's a little FPS anecdote about this gun. In COD 2:Big Red One the first full stage you fight through is in North Africa against the Vichy French. In a sad example of either complete ignorance of the weapons available to the Axis at that time, the Vichy French(who actually surrendered or switched sides three days after the American landings) fight fiercely with ROCKET LAUNCHERS and literally more MAS 38 and FM 24/29s than the French Army of Africa ever had!
reddyeddy69 7 months ago
@reddyeddy69 That game was a piece of shit. FM24/29 used like submachineguns. Lol.
claudiobenassi85 3 months ago
@reddyeddy69 A little italan anedocte. I believe the MAS38 was used to kill Mussolini.
claudiobenassi85 3 months ago
I think they based the smg on tf2 on this, cool
t1t296 9 months ago
Amazing
gburzynski 9 months ago
French people actually are very poor at making guns, but this is an exception.
oPaRaLyZeRx 9 months ago
@oPaRaLyZeRx what about the Famas assault rifle
bloodyblade24 9 months ago
@bloodyblade24 Lulz FAIL!!
oPaRaLyZeRx 9 months ago
Not as nice looking as the M1A1 Thompson, PPSH 41, or the STEN.
Axz92 10 months ago
Very ugly, but still - Very Awesome!!!
TheZappaCrack 10 months ago
Dis Gun is so Cute and cool
lenseaany27lenseaan 10 months ago
The Snipers SMG from TF2.
whowantsabighug 10 months ago
looks a bit like the Mauser C96 but its a sub-machine
bloodyblade24 11 months ago
I thought full-auto guns were not allowed in the US? Did Obama fix the gun law?
e0o9kii 11 months ago
it looks likea mini m16
jmantime 11 months ago
if your going to do that might as well go 357
BigJT2010 1 year ago
its a very rare weapon , we dont have a lot of thems in france...i never sse thems btw :O
comissairevanloc 1 year ago
An not very known fact about the MAS 38 is it's with that weapon Benito Mussolini was shot.
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that is one ugly looking SMG
ktockly 1 year ago
my god that sound!Shame so few where made, i would have bought one right now!
F4Wildcat 1 year ago
The only disadvantage of the MAS 38 was its cartridge, not powerful enough. But few people know today that this cartridge, The "7,65 Long" was a developpment of the American .30 Perdersen prototype cartridge. Some years after WW I, the French hat tested a submachine gun with some interesting features in caliber 9 mm Luger : the STA 24, and after WW II, they introduced another famous and quite efficient SMG : the MAT 49.
1916douaumont from France.
1916douaumont 1 year ago
This submachine gun was very innovative with the angle of its downward angle to the axis of the bore. It made the automatic fire especially controllable. At my knowledge, the MAS 38 was the first gun to present this feature, which was adopted again later by the Finnish and famous Jatimatic submachine gun.
The MAS 38 was also well manufactured, very simple, and noticeably short and light at this time and in its range (compared with the Thompson, the Beretta 38, the Suomi for instance).
1916douaumont 1 year ago
le Mas 38 is a beautiful submachine gun but it's strange (it's French)
Siera40 1 year ago
cool:D
nikki4562 1 year ago
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Like all French weapons functional but, butt ugly.
ttboy2004 1 year ago 13
@ttboy2004 :( Nooo, all guns are beautiful my friend.
RENOGUY777 5 months ago 12
@ttboy2004
Not all are ugly, the FAMAS is a good example ;). Sad that MAS doesn't exist anymore...
XtremeItachou 4 months ago
@ttboy2004 not the Chauchat....ill take a rock
ajonz9213 3 months ago
they must like burning their hands
logain1988 1 year ago
@logain1988 Why hold it by the barrel ?
OldDirtyRatbastard 1 year ago
I need a bolt assembly fora MAS38 SMG. Anyone know where I can buy one?
muzzle113 1 year ago
cutest smg eva!"
curseofa5r5a 1 year ago
@paranoid19851 don't forget that the chauchat FM was built on a very large scale and quite on a hurry. The french version worked decently, contrary to the american version of the gun which has a special clip...
bidon3332000 1 year ago
It looks like the Mauser C-96 to me.
PostalDude245 1 year ago
@PostalDude245
Unlike the Mauser C-96, the MAS-38 is due to be shoulder-fired only (its' rifle-butt was fixed), while the C-96 could be used as a hand-gun, even though a detachable rifle-butt was available for it.
Briselance 1 year ago
@PostalDude245
Looks nothing like it
not the slightest bit
Cowbelltheoneandonly 1 year ago
@Cowbelltheoneandonly Barrel does, mag well does and the pistol grip does.
PostalDude245 1 year ago
this gun looks exactly like the Sniper's SMG from TF2
Dirioctovarius 1 year ago
@Dirioctovarius this is a World War 2,mid World War 1 Era gun so there is no thing that this is related to TF2
luftwaffe789456123 1 year ago
@luftwaffe789456123 But it sure looks like it.
TheBelva85 1 year ago
It's crazy how the french actually to recoil into consideration when designing it. Upward sliding bolt, downward pointed stock... It's crazy :3
peepeevagi 1 year ago
Open bolt... love em.
MrPencilTitS 1 year ago
The Jatimatic borrowed from this design.
2muchreality4u 1 year ago
Stg-44(mp44) uses a gas piston to cycle bullets through it like the AK rifle...this weapon has no SIGNS or SPACE for a gas piston...BTW have you guys noticed that this gun barely has any recoil?
a55kika18 1 year ago
@a55kika18
I know eh? none at all!
PeterDaChoirBoy 1 year ago
Fuck i hate that gun its better used as a grenade...then again it doesnt blow up so
tankbuster101 1 year ago
that gun looks light how much does it weigh
tyler1768 1 year ago
@tyler1768
2.87 kg (without magazine)
3.56 kg (with magazine)
Tux3d0 1 year ago
Benito Mussolini was shot with one of those.
Smileyzeouf 1 year ago
I have a MAS 38, but need parts. Do you know where you can get them?
muzzle113 2 years ago
What parts?
flyboyfx 1 year ago
@flyboyfx
I need the bolt assembly
113dsc 1 year ago
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113dsc 2 years ago
This gun is very stable during the shot. The MAS 38 was still in dotation in the french Army during the Algeria war and in the national police until the end of the sixties.
fm192429 2 years ago
lol looks like a Mini Mp44 (stg44)
Mattebubben 2 years ago
@Mattebubben yea right
shinymarshtop2 1 year ago
lol. whats the weight on that thing? 10 ounces?! :)
GunFreak270 2 years ago
@GunFreak270 2.87 kg (without magazine) 3.56 kg (with magazine)
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@GunFreak270
2.87 kg (without magazine)
3.56 kg (with magazine)
Tux3d0 1 year ago
Gotta hand it to the French they have had beaucoup experience combat testing submachine guns (SMG) before, during, and after World War II. Before getting real ambitious, they used Swiss- or German-made SMGs. Then in 1938, they came out with their own, MAS-38, developed from the World War I-era MAS-35, a derivation of the STA 1922 and the MAS 1924 both in 9 mm produced shortly after World War I.
militaryhistorian67 2 years ago
Way ahead of its time. I really respect French firearms
militaryhistorian67 2 years ago
thats the MAT 49, and he was shot and his body was hung up afterwards at a petrol station in milan.
itsconnorstime 2 years ago
興味深い銃だ。
mg34mp40 2 years ago
wow it has a clip on the left side. at first i thought that the gun had a grenade in it so the enemy wouldnt use the gun lol lol lol lol
thebond22 2 years ago
@thebond22 c'est un arme pour des parachutes
newhuskytwenty 1 year ago
i have most of the MAS series.
litteboxer 2 years ago
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wasnt the mp44 based on this a little?
meanboy123 2 years ago
you are kidding, right?
Panzerfaust6 2 years ago 4
this was the gun mussolini was shot with.
itsconnorstime 2 years ago 32
@itsconnorstime Pertini one of the partisans brought one from Nice.
Capitancanguro1 6 months ago
@itsconnorstime He was shot by a gun with practically no recoil. It's a strange feeling. You'd imagine that he'd get his chest blown out by some high-powered rifle.
rappingfoinspiration 6 months ago
@rappingfoinspiration he was quite the porker. you think any of those rounds got through him? lamo
itsconnorstime 6 months ago
@itsconnorstime Citation? Not doubting you, just curious about it.
Whatchatalkingbout 6 months ago
@Whatchatalkingbout I just googled it, there was something about it on the bbc website. It was donated to Albania aparently. Apart from that I've no idea.
itsconnorstime 6 months ago
Nice! The first french made SMG ! Some are used during ww2 by the French Milice and some mebers of SS division "Charlemagne" on the russian front.
After ww2, survivors exemplars are send to the CEFEO in Indochina before the remplacement by new MAT 49 in 1951-52 (paratroopers only at the benning)
catone67 2 years ago 14
the first French SMG is the PM STA1924 (Cartridge: 9 parabellum-350 rounds/min).
Koenig0726 2 years ago
reminds me a bit of the thompson
jasperbaba 2 years ago
It's the sniper's SMG from TF2!
residentevil4freek 2 years ago
always loved that machine gun... thanks for sharing the fun.
kissmybuttdimple 2 years ago
The French sure know how to make a quality weapon. And I like the cursive markings.
Gorbachev 2 years ago 42
@Gorbachev
Though, the MAS-38 has a somehow weak ammo compared to, say, MP-40 or Thompson M-1. And a reenactor told me that the MAS-38 was prone to fire by itself if it slammed the ground a bit too violently, as when you hit the ground after you make a dash for a cover. In that case, I wouldn't like to have one o' my team-mates behind me with that gun.
Briselance 1 year ago
@Gorbachev... Yeah, and they sure know how to make a quality white flag as well, HUH?!
KillaCamRon405 1 year ago
@KillaCamRon405 And their tanks like the Italian ones have one forward gear and eight reverse.
anto1191 1 year ago
@anto1191 Let's see how any other army would have fared against the Nazis. Remember, the US had surrendered to a numerically and logistically-inferior army in the Philippines not long after. Same for the British in Malaya.
Anekantavad 1 year ago
@anto1191 And the Germans still were winning when you could use the Berlin Subway to relocate from the east front to the west front. The Italiens had the balls to arrest Mussolini and stop fighting when it was ovious that the war was lost. Germans even were stupid enough to waste their precious ammo to completely level Warzaw when the Russians already were in sight.
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wwwtotalitaerde 1 year ago
@Gorbachev lol- You havent seen the Chauchat then! A horrible French Gun. They gave up on gun quality just as easy as they gave up in the invasion in WW2
855h0le 1 year ago
@855h0le : The Chauchat was the first gun of its kind, it given the french infantry section a lot firepower.
It suffered some troubles in muddy trenches but was decisive in moving warfare in 1918.
spacesoviet59 1 year ago
@spacesoviet59 yea first gun to jam once you fire 5 shots what would REALLY give the infantry power in WW1 was the mp18.1 which came way too late in the war
AznLoserWin 1 year ago
@855h0le
ridiculous...it was the first (FIRST) try to provide a LMG, at the squad level...nobody had done that before.
and for your 2nd assesment, buy you a book on the battle of france and you'll learn a lot about the fierce month of battle and th e heavy losses on both sides.
kaa13 11 months ago
@Gorbachev i dont think you know what you are talking about french quality and weapons shouldnt be in the same sentence
148scalemodeling 11 months ago
@148scalemodeling one of the most ridiculous statements about French Rifles. They reek of quality.
militaryhistorian67 10 months ago
@148scalemodeling I don't know man the FAMAS rifle is pretty top notch not to mention their Mirage fighter jets have proved their worth for the last 50 years. Examples being Israel's domination of the skies with Mirage jets during the Six Day War up to current Mirage bombing operations the French themselves are doing in Libya. They do put out some great material. Unfortunately it seems that is overlooked here in the states because of anti-French sentiment.
kylemas2005 10 months ago
@Gorbachev
Maybe, but that one tends to go off too easily when dropped or when it hits the ground too violently, like when the guy carrying it throws himself to the ground to take cover or to stay hidden.
Briselance 10 months ago
@Gorbachev once in a while not really.
TheHEROESdontRUN 8 months ago
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what a piece of s....
kjsh987 2 years ago
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oh yes, french dump!^^
AmonGoeth88 2 years ago
The thing i love about the MAS38 is its reliability, its high rate of fire, its great sights, and it makes a cool sound like it is suppressed, similar to the sound of an M3a1
wescoproductions 2 years ago 5
what? the m3 grease gun sounds way different from being so slow (approx. 400 rpm, 450 tops).
heat45jc 2 years ago
Yeah but the grease gun and the sten while easy to produce due to manufacturing were more complicated. This is a very simple and not to mention easy to replicate design.
crazycuntryboy2 2 years ago
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wheres the surrender switch?
revolutionaryverse 2 years ago
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ha!
wescoproductions 2 years ago
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LOL Good one!
mfilip62 2 years ago
That appears to be a very well made weapon. Can't help but notice that there is virtually no muzzle rise when it is fired, thanks to the unusual setup of the bolt running on a different axis from the barrel.
314299 3 years ago 2
from what i understand of French pre-war training was that you never hip fired this weapon because you would end up only hitting your targets shins only
MauserK43 2 years ago
The catrdige was a direct copy of the pedersen device cartridge from ww1.Some of that ammo was studied by the french. This smg was used to kill Mussolini.
TheBelva85 3 years ago 6
I am sure meanboy123 is mistaken, or else he must know some sort of secret history, unbeknownst to us. A gun from 1944 can never influence the designers of a gun made in 1938.
The other way around is more what I thought. The stg44 looks very much like this gun, and as I understand, this gun was used by the Germans after the defeat of France, so perhaps...
hitmansnightmare 3 years ago
Not very beautiful but it seems to be effective
Evin86 3 years ago 4
i heard the french still used the mas 38 for police duty until the late 50's.
BATTLEDROID678 3 years ago 8
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the MAS 38 was actually made from combining a Thompson and an MP44,hitmansnightmare.trust me im a huge WW2 fan
meanboy123 3 years ago
How the hell should it be influenced by the MP44?! It was introduced 4 years before the MP44 was created.
bergfruehling 3 years ago 44
he must mean the mp40 or hes just retarded
seanermagoner 3 years ago
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hitmansnightmare 3 years ago
@bergfruehling isnt it 6 years? 1938 - 1944
cheshiregangsta 1 year ago
@bergfruehling you do know that the STG44 was made in 1942, but was only used twards the later half of the war
Darklordkime 1 year ago
Much smaller then I thought it would be
c9ari 3 years ago 3
which explains why its called a S.M.G! LOL
ChromeGhost0219 3 years ago
nice french baby gun!
USHomeboy 3 years ago 8
Cool!
Unfortunately I have never played call of duty 2 on the PS2, but I will look for other games which have this fine weapon.
hitmansnightmare 3 years ago 2
Well duder you'll have to keep looking because CoD2: Big Red One is the only game to have french and italian ww2 weaponry, i'm pretty sure i'm right about that.
CenturyGamer 3 years ago
Fail
check wwiiol
The most accurate massive multiplayer war simulator to date
Red Orcestra also has italian French english nazi American japanese and chinese weapons depending on the mod.
ganymedeIV4 3 years ago
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th3patsfan83 2 years ago 2
Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome has one Italian weapon, albeit mirrored and poorly portrayed.
Medal of Honor Allied Assault: Breakthrough has most of the important Italian arsenal.
Hidden & Dangerous 2: Sabre Squadron has the French MAS 36.
Bushroot 2 years ago
Now there's one you don't see every day, or even every year! ;)
Thanks for sharing the vid.
grimjaw5 3 years ago
real rare gun around!! very nice XD
SharonGook 3 years ago
Its possible the MAS 38 influenced the M16 rifle hence the main bolt spring in te stock.
Canashea 3 years ago 2
It is smaller, it looks like the german stg 44. Could the germans have used this gun as reference?
hitmansnightmare 3 years ago
yes, they were actually used by the Germans after the siege at the MAS factory.
SharonGook 3 years ago
The Germans after they occupied France allowed the French to keep making this gun and it eventually armed the Vichy French in North Africa. If you have played Call of Duty 2 for PS2 the second mission takes place in North Africa and you are fighting the Vichy French that is where I first heard and saw this weapon. The Germans as well as other countries used the design for reference in making new guns and probably did look to it and took some featers and incorporated them into the StG44.
jrpeters5 3 years ago 4
Incorrect about North Africa. Although production continued, few were actually completed during the occupation, and this gun was almost non-existent outside of the Army of the Armistice in the unoccupied free zone of Vichy France (which other than one unit reconstituted later, was disbanded in 1942). The French North African Army had so few submachine guns of any type (the other would have been the 1924 STA) that the government didn't bother to keep records, lumping the category with pistols.
Bushroot 2 years ago
What's the caliber?
MrPloppy1 3 years ago
7.65x20mm MAS Longue, correct me if I'm wrong.
conefucius 3 years ago