MS3 2002 Camaro SS

[Spency04]

love the sound

[19jody72]

any drivability problems as far as bucking or suging with the ac on?

[hooknbookls1]

2500 stall is too small thats a big cam you should go with a 3000-3500 stall at least for DD

[nickrod666]

you sir, get a thumbs up!

[DjBigGunna484]

Nice shit bro. I have a 2002 chevy 35th anniversery camaro ss. Where did you get all your parts at?

[EETCHIT]

@DjBigGunna484  Teaxas Speed

[DjBigGunna484]

You know that camaro is mean as a bitch

[rotten86cj7]

slick

[usnavyseals99]

loud mouth is badass

[BLK02SS]

2500 stall? Seems too small for a ms3

[510purple]

dam sounds hella good though how many horse

[trentc32]

this is by far the best sounding ls1 on youtube !!! my wife loves this exhaust she says it sounds like a tribal ceremony ... the ms3 kicks ass!!!!!!!

[510purple]

wow got the macho man automatic i see

[EETCHIT]

@510purple Somethin like that

[codyz71]

@510purple a stalled out auto with a shift kit will run better times than a manual anytime :::READ:::

[llXpOll]

What is with the service engine soon light is it because of the cam i really want to install one but worry it wont pass inspection with the light.

[EETCHIT]

@llXpOll It can be tuned out. This video is 2 years old. Its tuned now.

[lane83180]

@llXpOll knock sensors dont like cams

[adrianTNT]

Why did you show the RPM? Is it common for RPM to be instable after cam swap?

[EETCHIT]

Just cause. instable? depends on how aggressive the cam is. Its called a "lope". loping idle ......etc

[koehn979]

Who tuned your car? Was it Fastship in Tulsa?

[EETCHIT]

QCR in Moore

[ATVRider6840]

more videos man! sick car

[EETCHIT]

Oh no question YES! A bigger stall would be great. But for what I have now It works fine. I really only drive around town. No time and money with school to do anything else.

[team510jh0nis]

damn i feel it man im going to go with an ms3 also and a 3600 stall u think thats too big for the streets

[EETCHIT]

I dont think so if you have it tuned right. Ive heard of guys with 4000 stalls on the street. The ones I hear of is a Yank 3600ss. Of course they are great stalls but cost a pretty penny.

[team510jh0nis]

U don't want to go for a bigger stall?

[team510jh0nis]

How does it drive with the 2500 stall

[EETCHIT]

Good

[jbalboa09]

Yea i agree it does have lots of potential im not gonna lie, but id rather have a better and lighter base to start from i.e. camaro or trans am lol

[jbalboa09]

I dont think their THAT gutless, but yes they pretty much are lol not as much as a single cab v8 truck should be. but i give it credit for being able to keep up with the 5.7 dohc v8 of the tundra considering my rims. but i saw a old friend who put a ms3 on his trans am and still daily drives it, so i guess id be good still

[EETCHIT]

True, I knew a local guy that had a single cab short bed truck with a 5.3L. He put a comp cam, 3600 stall, headers, 4.11 gears, and some other stuff. It was very fast!! I was truly amazed. If its a GM LS motor it has potentially.

[jbalboa09]

Lol its a 4.8 silverado that advertises 14 city and 16 highway but iv got a transmission problem which i know for sure takes the mileage down a little, my allignment is off alot and thats not helping me either, and iv got rims which takes it down more. plus my driving may not be the best, but im not flooring it everywhere lol just need to get to places in a hurry all the time. 35 dollars usually lasts me 3 days if that. sometimes less

[EETCHIT]

I see. Those motors are to small for trucks. I have a friend that had one and it was gutless, he'd have to have it floored to get anywhere.

[jbalboa09]

Lets say i currently daily drive a silverado that gets about 11 mpg city.... Would a MS3 LS1 still be an upgrade in gas mileage for me? Lol

[EETCHIT]

HA not a chance. LOL, that sucks for a stock truck? what motor is in it? I have a AWD 6.0L that gets around 16 mpg in town and 18 mpg highway.I guess it could be driving habits though

[jimbo98z]

Are you still running stock heads with that cam? That might be part of your driveability/warning light issues.

[EETCHIT]

Yes they are stock. No thats not the problem with driveability/waring light issues. Those are from the tune. At the time I did not have the tune completed. Big cams and street driving just dont always go together. That said, I still dont mind driving my car back and forth to class.

[jimbo98z]

Yea, I wouldn't mind an MS3 or Torquer 2/3 right now either.

[nanoreefbyc]

hey what all did you put in with the cam? I really like the ms3 but dont know what all i need to get with it. So far I have magnaflow exhaust, pacesetter lt and ory, k&n cai, and a tb bypass. LOVE the cam

[EETCHIT]

Texas Speed has a kit that comes with the cam, pushrods, springs and retainers those are a MUST. I would also put a double roller timing chain, lifters, high volume oil pump and have a good trans because its going to put down some good power. Those will insure a good reliable hot rod.

[erickiller214]

is this a good daily driver Cam....i only drive my maro 1 hour Mon-Friday school and job

[EETCHIT]

There is better. You can DD it but its not fun. I wouldnt if its your only car. Its not bad just uses alot of fuel around town.

[EETCHIT]

When you go to a cam this size other mods are a requirement because of the power and extra stress it puts on things.

[lonelyq8y]

hot ss , any dyno #?

[EETCHIT]

Stock #'s 310rwhp 322rwtq. Havent put it back on yet.

[ThatSkaterKid93]

you almost have the same set up as my brother

check out his camaro on my page!!!

[EETCHIT]

Very drivable with a good stall, I suggest 3000 stall.

[dstroud2771531]

i just saw yellow and assumed, sorry i don't have my dash lights memorized as i ussually dont see much of them.

[jbalboa09]

I was really thinking of getting a ms3 cam for my camaro ss...... About how much miles per gallon did you lose?

[EETCHIT]

Around town don't ask, highway I lost 2. I currently get 18mpg. The reason its good is because the torque converter is locked-up on the highway but around town its in and out, so it gets bad. But its a good thing that it unlocks around town because you couldnt drive it a lower stall than a 2800 stall.

[dstroud2771531]

i like how your change oil light is on.... mine does the same thing, i put a nice peice of electrical tape over it :)

i have a 02 camaro ss as well

[OneBigmutha1109]

WRONG it's ASR OFF, the service engine soon light is on. Obviously you dont own one. lol

[EETCHIT]

Ive got to '02 F-bodies. both oil lights are on and off all the time. My service engine light also comes on and off. Its a MAP sensor code. But I have now fixed the tune.

[Sixx28]

I got a question here...I've seen the initials "ORY" around on some of these videos never knowing what it means...Does it stand for an Off-Road Y pipe?

[team510jh0nis]

yup

[jeffhulsey16]

Very nice, I'm from Chandler Oklahoma and I just bought a 00' Z with the MS4 cam in it, maybe we can meet up and go beat up on some mustangs!

[EETCHIT]

sounds good to me!!!!!

[chevrolet201212]

thats nice. cant wait to buy my camaro. 02 v8 ss

[EETCHIT]

MS3 operating rang is 2300-6800 rpm. The MS4 operating range is 2300-6800 rpm. I drive my car on the weekends around town and it is amazingly street able. Also I just got around 18mgh on the highway with it! Stick that in your pipe and smoke it hybrids!

[EETCHIT]

Yes, the trans. is rated to 750hp and HP is related to TQ and TQ is related to HP. My car put down 310rwhp and 320rwtq STOCK. I havent been back on the dyno yet though. I should be around 390-410rwhp with everything so far.

[EETCHIT]

Please dont talk about something that you dont know about. This is a MS3 cam not MS4. The MS4 specs at 239/242, .649"/.609" on 112-108 LSA. MS3 is 237/242 .603/.609" mine is on a 112 LSA. These cams are designed for the LS1 to run on nitrous. Now that that is said yes a larger ci motor would do better,but they would also do better with an even larger cam.

[IamChuckNorris]

Lol owned dumbass

[ttotaleddime]

no way in hell its a 750 hp car i know cas i own one i wanna see the dyno sheets

[Blazin99z28]

You are an idiot, he says his trans is good to 750 hp.

[spdkilzasoundsuck]

idiot

[lCHADILLACGRILLZl]

where are you located and how many miles are on it?

[EETCHIT]

Stillwater,OK. 110,000

[kposton123]

One awesome sounding camaro!! Great job man

[qpzmak]

whats the best cam you can put on a camaro

[mjjhgf]

Don't mean to be a dick, but that's a dumb question. A cam is only as good as its supporting mods. You can put a 24x/24x .62x/.62x, 110 lsa cam into a stock ls1 and it will run like shit. Put that same cam into a 408 stroker with afr heads, a fast 90/90, and a 3500+ stall with a good tune and it'll be a beast. The MS3 is one of the better off-the-shelf, bolt-on only cams for ls1 cars. Good performance, good driveability without needing a lot of other stuff. My $.02

[qpzmak]

what about an ms4 cam

[mjjhgf]

An MS4 ranks right up there with the most extreme off-the-shelf LS1 cams. I that cam specs out at 239/242, .649/.609 on a 111 lsa. I'd say the MS4 is as big as I'd go on a bolt-on only car, that or a Polluter, Trex or equivalent. I'm going with the MS3 most likely because I want something a little less insane to dd.

[yourhumblemaster]

An MS4 is still too large a cam, imho, for a bolt-on only ls1. It specs out (off the top of my head) 24x/24x duration @.050, .61x/.61x lift on either a 111 or 110 lsa. That kind of cam is gonna operate in the 3500-7000 rpm range, and a stock-headed, stock cid ls1 would really hold that cam back.

[Theautotech]

mjjhgf: finally someone who knows somthing aroung here, and that other dude 750hp my ass.

[yourhumblemaster]

I think everyone is misunderstanding the 750 hp part. The OP is saying the stage 3 auto trans is rated to 750 hp. I'll say that that's all well and good, but a hp rating on a trans is useless without a torque rating. Torque generated by the motor is multiplied by the torque converter (by the static torque ratio), and is the most important aspect of a transmissions strength. For example, the old Turbo 350's and 400's meant to imply that they could handle 350 ft./lbs, 400 ft./lbs respectively.

[Theautotech]

makes sense

[adamrecon]

magic stick 3 its the name of a cam sold by texas speed

[shibbiwiggles]

Wow that sounds nice. One of the best Camaro's I've ever heard, it doesn't have that tinny pop that most other cammed Camaro's have.

[Ls1Camaro96]

Hey guys i dont mean to sound stupid or anything but whats a MS3? Can someone help me out?

[EETCHIT]

Its the cam name.Texas Speed calls this cam a Magic Sick 3.

[braheem35]

magic stick 3

[folkyou1320ls1ss]

wow i havent heard many stock ecu cars sound that clean! no surge! sounds nice, i could only get that with a fast xfi lol nice car!

[EETCHIT]

Thanks,cam tune then drove it.Love it.BUT said part is now I have to sell it.:(

[folkyou1320ls1ss]

wow havent heard to many stock ecu cars sound that clean, no surge sounds nice! i could only get that with a fast xfi lol!! nice car!

[ChevyGuy4762]

just wondering how you got the car to idle like that? I have rarely heard an aftermarket cam with such a distinct thumping sound. Most cams are more of a lot of rumbling. Did you just slid the cam in and it sounded like that or was it tuning, or did you change your bore & stroke?

Thanks!

[speeddemon100]

got the MS3 for my LS2 GTO....cant wait to put it in....sounds so smooth on your SS!

[InArkhamAsylum]

Here's my Camaro with a "Magic Stick 3" CAM. Those are sweet CAMS & you can get about 60 RWHP with the right tune....

[EETCHIT]

Ive seen that video very nice car I like the Zs.Were and how did you get yours if you dont mind me askin?

[camarosam]

hey sounds real nice, Im going with the magic stick v.3 too. I was wondering hows the daily driving of it? Do you like it? Thanks.

[EETCHIT]

I love it! If you can get past the car shaking you to death youll be fine.I recommend if you have loud exhaust get something quiet.I have SLP and the thing sound like a drag car(which isnt bad but I set car alarms off constantly.I have stock gears and a stage 3 4L60E with a 2500 stall and it isnt to bad.I drive it to college.Get one!!

[camarosam]

thanks, Im lookin forward to puttin it in my camaro, one last question, your engine light is on, when they tune the car it still stays on?

[EETCHIT]

Take it to someone that can tune GOOD and you wont have to worry about it.Mines on because im tuning it myself and still learnig.

[randyrhoads6]

when you got the cam, did you have to get anything else or did you just get the cam and install it and it ran and idled fine?

[EETCHIT]

No, I got the complete cam kit from TSP. It came with the cam, valve springs to handle the lift and push rods to handle the pressure from the springs.Also needs a double roller cam chain because the factory one is weak.Also needs tune for this big cam.Auto cars need tuned because of the tranny, six speed cars are alittle more forgiving.Recommend a stall converter and gears too.Smaller cams are not so hard to do though.I went big because these cars love big cams or cams at all.

[eclipsegsx765]

you should make a vid of you driving it i wana here what i sounds when you on the highway or on any roads

[EETCHIT]

I know you can because thats what my car is. It is origanally a z28 but the guy i bought it from put a SS glass hood on it and the wing and some wheels.Easy.

[eclipsegsx765]

i got a 2002 camaro its not a rs,ss,z28 just a regular you think i can make it into a ss camaro and put good mods on it its a automatic