Eastern Education is very THEORY focused, while WESTERN educaion is PRACTICE focused. Aristotle said, all what we learned we learn by doing it. Then what is better? To learn efficiently with pleasure, apply knowledge, and learn with a good method that help students to remember things, because they learn in context, or just to memorize like an idiot, without getting the meaning, and maybe you understand sthg after 3 years bloody memorizing, or you just burn out from the lots of unnecessary info
Just look at the international rating of Universities! Where are the Dutch and where are the Romanian Universities, just look at their position ! Not by mistake the best Universities are all western ones, British and American in the first 10, then all the Dutch Unies are in the first 100, so the Australians.
BULSHIT! All Eastern Europeans think their Universities are the best, their doctors and scientist are the best, and so on, BIG BULSHIT! I am from Hungary, and I know how big headed the Hungarians are with their medical education, then I went to Australia (by the way I studied med. biol. in Uni in Budapest) where I met a Hungarian doctor who said to me in Australia they have more practical knowledge, there are simple things, not expensive, but life saving, what Huns don't know, but Aussies do
The capitalism is destroying our world. Every year, lots of natural resources are wasted at needless goods, that includes rare metals like gold and silver. Scientists claim that if we keep our consuming rythm, in 2030 we will need 2 Earths to attend the demands of consumerist-capitalist society. Only the communism can save us from this disaster with a resource oriented planned economy!
@Swordman85 I agree. Recent economy based on the custom "use and throw". It is possible to produce long lasting goods, but it is not the interest of the capitalists. They want you to buy and buy to make them more and more rich.
aki azt hiszi hogy kommunizmus volt, az nagyon téved. sajnos attól még messze voltunk. én tanultam világnézetet és sokkal jobb lett volna, mint ez a tetves kapitalizmus. ma is örömmel énekelem ezeket a dalokat.
A valódi kommunista eszme gazdasági elképzelései totális tévedések voltak, ezt szerintem senki sem vitathatja. Azt a lenini gondolkodást követték, amely a kapitalizmust semmilyen formában nem tűrte meg. Az tény, hogy nagyon sokan rosszul jártak, de legalább ennyien jártak jól.Akkor az ország 89%-a gyakorlatilag írástudatlan volt, vagyis cseléd, kubikos, zsellér. Őket csak úgy lehetett munkába állítani, ha elhelyezték őket egy szövetkezetben. Gedeon bácsi ugyanis önként nem fizetett volna senkit.
The best school for the workers' children was built by Rudolf Steiner Austrian philosopher (Waldorf education) in 1919 at the Waldorf-Astoria cigarette factory in Stuttgart, but you could not see any Waldorf school in the Eastern Europen block countries till 1990. Why? Because this school nurtures you to think and be creative, while the communist education nurtured you to serve the given system and just accept things without thinking.
The schools and hospitals were far from good, and they are still not good in the ex-communist countries, actually getting worse because they do not update knowledge and have a high national proud that blind them to recognise the effectiveness of western education and health care. How do I dare? Because I witnessed both, experienced the communist Eastern European as well as the Western European and the Australian education and health care
Perhaps not the best, but schools were a privilege of noble people before socialism, most of the population was illiterate, that was solved in 10 years. Capitalism took more than 300 years to supress illiteracy at the most advanced countries. In many capitalist countries it was not even solved yet.
@0606Jasmine My mother, doctor in Socialist Romania until 1986, and doctor in The Netherlands thereafter, sais pretty much the opposite. She sais health care was very good, comparable to Western standards of the time - albeit in the last years of communism there was a slight shortage of equipment. The med school (she had to redo a part of the education in Holland) is actually better over there, she sais, and I believe her. Haven't often witnessed such a crappy education as is our med school xD
@Tu16 so what do you say? where is better the med education and health care in Romania or in The Netherlands? What do you mean by "our" med school? The Romanian one? Generally the Eastern European one?
@0606Jasmine Ours - the Dutch one. I'm pretty sure Romanian doctors knnow a shitload more than Dutch doctors - they're probably just limited by worse equipment.
@0606Jasmine Why don't you understand what he is saying to you? It is a personal experience, laid out for you.... I can tell u; despite, the shiny stuff, blackberry's, facebook, and Royal Dutch Shell succes, things in Holland are not so great as they are; including education. in fact, at the moment is it terrible. not to mention the influence of multiculturalism. and do not dear to dismiss that as a other issue because this stems right from the same 'democracy' bullshit. o guess where im from?
@sebaz1982 I don't care where you are from. At the moment I study in a Dutch University. I know what is going on in unis in the former Eastern Block, as I had been studying there as well, as well as visited many collages and Unis all around the world - personally - and I can tell you, the Dutch education is not bad at all. You are either too young, or you haven't been to any universities or you haven't experienced different education systems, so therefore, better if you stay quiet.
@0606Jasmine ^^^ You think you're better because you study? I did study and I do have a degree. I have lived in different continents in the world, with education in SE-Asia and The Netherlands. The last 7 years I have lived in another country while visiting many others. Where is my medal!? lol Why are you, in such a despiccable rude and hypocritical way, judging others? Based on their age? university experience, etc... There is no debate with people like you. But thanks for the example narcist.
@0606Jasmine excuse me?u want to say that life and things in west-europe are fine? effective? haha. im from west-europe and lived in many other parts of the world, and i can tell u one thing; the west is rich, not because of its great people and their system. no, because we have plundered other countries, changed regimes, colonialism, slavery, oil, war, resources, etc..u name it.. still going until this day. if u remove that, see whats left. we are rothschilds children. east is their next target
@sebaz1982 I was talking about the method of education, This is better in Western countries. And many other things are also better in Western countries. The ruthless capitalism is a different issue.
@0606Jasmine "This is better in Western countries. And many other things are also better in Western countries"....... mmm... REALLY? anybody saying something like this has made up his or her mind already. you got a belief and conviction. I have a question for you; Do you know any of these families; Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Morgans ? oh and since when is the capitalism or any kind of 'ism' a different issue; it is one of the fundaments for education.. everything connected to it. get wise.
@sebaz1982 The East is already a target , it has been since the 80's, and had been conquered by the western capitalists after the fall of the Berlin wall. They destroyed the Eastern agriculture and industry, they bought the factories just to close them, because they wanted them to buy their staff, and not to produce and sell theirs. For e.g.Hungary was used to be a big sugar exporter country...
@0606Jasmine wrong. western elite infiltrated the east (slavs) right from the time during the bolshevik revolution. always financing both sides (east/west) while keeping their own cow (west) at advantage in relation to the future while accelerating the collapse of the soviet union. a long term plan, really kickin of around the 80s. stalin kicked them out, just like putin is trying now. guess why the great 'western freedom' critics are demonizing(ed) both of them? helllooooo wakey wakey
In the Stalinism the Government owned all the Capital, not the Proletariat, and the Government owned and shared the Profit among themselves why they constantly fed the people with lies.
You should firstly study about something "Socialist accumulation of capital". They had to sacrifice some wealth in the name of State security, once the USSR was threatened by foreign powers as the UK, N. Germany and later USA.
Still, the best hospitals and school for workers were built, as well as a dynamic and advanced social system. How do you dare to claim that capital was not distributed among the Proletarians?
The "communists" run a dictatorship, that is regarding to it's way of functioning and Propaganda tools they used was not different from National Socialism. Liberal Capitalism is a short term benefit for the Capitalists, but in a long run they lose. America has already started losing. The world will settle one day in a system that is close to Marx's idea. Nowadays Sweden's socialist system is the closest to Marx's theory
You should remember that since the beggining of XX century, and perhaps since the XVII century, Sweden does not face a single invasion of its territory. It's very easy to build an equalitarian system where you have no problems with invaders, differently from USSR, that was invaded by more than 20 countries in XX century simply for trying to build socialism.
They had to abdicate from many welfare options to defend their country, otherwise they would face the fate of Paris Commune.
I would like to see Swedishes receiving high wages with high living standards if they had to fight an enemy like the Nazi Germany or if they had to protect themselves from US nuclear missiles pointed towards them, as well as if they had to fight insurrections as the one of Basmachi in USSR at 20's.
Needless to remember that Sweden is a vassal state of USA, they delivered arrested and delivered J. Assange to the US and awarded Obama with Nobel Prize of Peace, ridiculous!
Leninism and Stalinism are not = with Marxism. Marx dream a world where part of the profit is shared amongst who work for it, the other part is used for development, investment in more Capital to increase Production and Profit, but nobody takes advantage on the labor, it is the labor who decide as they own the Capital and the Profit as well.
Leninism and Stalinism are not = with Marxism. Marx dream a world where part of the profit is shared amongst who work for it, the other part is used for developement, investment in more Capital to increase Production and Profit, but nobody takes advantage on the labor, it is the labor who decide as they own the Capital and the Profit as well.
That may be applied to countries where the Capital IS stablished, which was not the case of USSR and many other E. European countries. Even the Democratic Germany had not enough capitals and industries, once most of them were destroyed during the war, specially in Dresden.
In USSR they had to accumulate capitals to develop industry and protect their country from invaders.
@irredentapista nekem semmi bajom nincs a kisvállalkozókkal... nekem a világ és országméretűekkel van a gond azok koncentrálják a tőkét a kisvállalkozó az visszaforgatja a gazdaságba és a vállalkozásába és valamennyit zsebre tesz ez tök jó meg minden de amelyik országméretű vállalat és 1 hónap alatt annyit keres amivel vígan és röhögve ki tudnánk fizetni az államadóságunkat? na álljunk már meg azért... mások kenyeret nem tudnak enni....nekikmeg magán hajójuk van ami akkora mint egy csatahajó....
@irredentapista az se mind1 milyen tőkés! én nem a kis vállalkozóról beszélek aki a megélhetésért alkalmaz munkásokat. nem...azért mert azok a munkásokkal ugyan úgy jóban vannak mivel emberi kapcsolatk is kiépülnek közöttük. én nem ezekről beszéltem hanem azokról akiknek 28 világméretű cége van és gyakorlatilag irányítja a gazdaságot...
that's why i regret that i didn't live some 30-40 years before xD i love these songs, even if i know that they aim was to dazzle people. however, i think that it's a great idea, because many-many young people loved the communist system because of songs like these...
Don't worry about that. I'm from Serbia and i have 19 years. So foreigner+young. I very much like Hungary and i'm a communist, so definetly love the CD "Best of communism" and all songs from it. LONG LIVE MAGYARORSZAG, LONG LIVE COMMUNSM!!!
@Swordman85 Mirol beszelsz te BAROM!!!!!!!???? EN BENNE ELTEM, Es boldog voltam, sot BIZTONSAGBAN!!!!!! NEM VOLT KABITOSZER!!!! De voltak ZART HATAROK!!!! ES NEM VOLT GYERMEKRABLAS, es NEM VOLTAK ELMEBETEG ALLATOK AKIK ELRABOLNAK GYEREKEKET, es viszik amerre akarjak!!!! ZART H
It´s a pleasure for me to share this song with ppl around the world, I was watching some interesting statistics on that video.
Hungarian women and men between 45-54 are the ones who mostly watched it, as the video is mostly watched in Hungary. There are a few spectators from all over the world, but none in Central Asia, Africa(but Morroco and SA), in M. Eastern only S. Arabia, Turkey and Iran watched it. In Americas, only Venezuela, Uruguay, Guianas and Paraguay are not among spectators.
I don´t think so, one of the songs(this one is a compilation of various compositions) is the song of Geyer Florian(Florián dal), a knight who was popular in Germany and Hungary, but not in Russian.
Actually, it´s curious how Floryan is the person that "everybody likes", he is considered a hero for communists, democrats and nazi as well.
Please do your reasearch before arguing online. Lányi Sarolta translated this communist song onto Hungarian, She also wrote the Varsavianka lyrics which was also considered a Polish song by some, but originally is a Soviet song.
It´s actually the gathering of various Hungarian songs, among them, the song of Geyer Florian, a German hero(he was little known to Russian communists, but very popular between German communists, as well as among nazi and German liberals). One of the songs is similar to the song "The White Army of a Black Baron", but it´s lyrics are completely different..
Let´s say that the composer of this "egyveleg" did what Tchaikovsky did when he composed the Ov. 1812.
Örömmel hallgatom ezeket a dallamokat, mert olyankor sok-sok évet fiatalodom. Újra érzem azt a történelmi légkört, amikor a Vörös Hadsereg, az USA és bolgár hadseregek felszabadítottak bennünket az embertelenségből. Remélem még megélem, hogy a megyar fiatalok igy énekelnek a hazáról, a kapott szabadságról. Soha ne feledjük a hős katonákat, az áldozatokat és a győztes fegyvereket gyártó népek áldozatos
Which is a good thing, because commies defeated fascism and they yet fight them.
Today, without socialist countries, the streets of Europe and Eurasia are full of nazi scum. We need commies again to put this scum where they deserve to be!
Really, and what proofs do you have about these "70 millions"?
Let´s suppose that your numbers are true, well, capitalism eliminated around 80 millions of Native Indians when the Earth´s population was not bigger than 500 millions of souls, that´s a consense at modern historians. Some of them claim that Eastern Indias Company killed 200 millions of black persons, so what is the worse?
Again, nothing was proofed about your "millions of victims of communism".
This might be true. I don't argue. BUT - communism made this for about 80 years, the 'captalism' (which should stand for empires, republics and every state, which was not communist according to you or?) for centuries. Quite a difference, don't you thinkt?
This might be true. I don't argue. BUT - communism made this for about 80 years, the 'captalism' (which should stand for empires, republics and every state, which was not communist according to you or?) for centuries. Quite a difference, don't you thinkt?
Sure that it had! It was responsible for Slavery trade, not only in Eastern Indias(the W. Indias was a misunderstood of the new American continent). Dozens of millions of people were slain during slavery traffic.
It´s good to remember that Dutch reign in Africa was one of the worse, even after the ending of slavery, the king Baldwin ordered his henchmen to amputate negros who refused to extract rubber from the trees, when the automobile industry was flourishing.
Burgueoise Hungarians demonstrated their opinion, you meant, which is not surprise. Actually, what every burgueois in the world and their comparses want is the same, workers working for lesser and lesser wages to make profit.
Their society is full of contraditions and I am pretty sure that it will not make great classical composition as Popular and Socialist societies did. As an Arab saying goes, "the caravan goes and the dogs enrage".
"Those who listen to classic music will never be alone"
I don´t wanna engage the political debate, but something that I love at communism(and a reason for that it will always get my admiration) is that it produces and sponsors classic music, while capitalism produces and sponsors "pop music" and stupid people.
So you think, that there wasn't created any classical music in the age of capitalism, and never will be? Interesting, but then again, I should say, it's stupid. Do not listen to too much pop music.:)
There is classical music at capitalist age, but I suppose that what he meant is that capitalism does not promote culture. Have you ever see great TVs or great companies promoting a concert of Tchaykovskiy or Bhrams? No, they promote shows of Madonna or Brittish Spears.
I don´t think that his post is stupid, but pretty accurate. Plus, do not forget that most of these pop artists are culturally illiterate.
Elejeén van benne egy kis Bunkócska, aztán átvált Bécsi Munkásidulóra, utána jön a tényleges Zengjük a Dalt, a végén meg még van egy kis Geyer Flórián Dala is.XD
What a wonderful song, thank you. As Finnish and Hungarian are related languages I think I can make out few words here and there but I doubt that the meaning is exactly same.
Ámen.
kanem1968 4 months ago
Eastern Education is very THEORY focused, while WESTERN educaion is PRACTICE focused. Aristotle said, all what we learned we learn by doing it. Then what is better? To learn efficiently with pleasure, apply knowledge, and learn with a good method that help students to remember things, because they learn in context, or just to memorize like an idiot, without getting the meaning, and maybe you understand sthg after 3 years bloody memorizing, or you just burn out from the lots of unnecessary info
0606Jasmine 7 months ago
Just look at the international rating of Universities! Where are the Dutch and where are the Romanian Universities, just look at their position ! Not by mistake the best Universities are all western ones, British and American in the first 10, then all the Dutch Unies are in the first 100, so the Australians.
0606Jasmine 7 months ago
BULSHIT! All Eastern Europeans think their Universities are the best, their doctors and scientist are the best, and so on, BIG BULSHIT! I am from Hungary, and I know how big headed the Hungarians are with their medical education, then I went to Australia (by the way I studied med. biol. in Uni in Budapest) where I met a Hungarian doctor who said to me in Australia they have more practical knowledge, there are simple things, not expensive, but life saving, what Huns don't know, but Aussies do
0606Jasmine 7 months ago
The capitalism is destroying our world. Every year, lots of natural resources are wasted at needless goods, that includes rare metals like gold and silver. Scientists claim that if we keep our consuming rythm, in 2030 we will need 2 Earths to attend the demands of consumerist-capitalist society. Only the communism can save us from this disaster with a resource oriented planned economy!
Swordman85 7 months ago 10
@Swordman85 I agree. Recent economy based on the custom "use and throw". It is possible to produce long lasting goods, but it is not the interest of the capitalists. They want you to buy and buy to make them more and more rich.
0606Jasmine 4 months ago
aki azt hiszi hogy kommunizmus volt, az nagyon téved. sajnos attól még messze voltunk. én tanultam világnézetet és sokkal jobb lett volna, mint ez a tetves kapitalizmus. ma is örömmel énekelem ezeket a dalokat.
MsGilice 8 months ago
A valódi kommunista eszme gazdasági elképzelései totális tévedések voltak, ezt szerintem senki sem vitathatja. Azt a lenini gondolkodást követték, amely a kapitalizmust semmilyen formában nem tűrte meg. Az tény, hogy nagyon sokan rosszul jártak, de legalább ennyien jártak jól.Akkor az ország 89%-a gyakorlatilag írástudatlan volt, vagyis cseléd, kubikos, zsellér. Őket csak úgy lehetett munkába állítani, ha elhelyezték őket egy szövetkezetben. Gedeon bácsi ugyanis önként nem fizetett volna senkit.
nokedli86 9 months ago
The best school for the workers' children was built by Rudolf Steiner Austrian philosopher (Waldorf education) in 1919 at the Waldorf-Astoria cigarette factory in Stuttgart, but you could not see any Waldorf school in the Eastern Europen block countries till 1990. Why? Because this school nurtures you to think and be creative, while the communist education nurtured you to serve the given system and just accept things without thinking.
0606Jasmine 10 months ago
The schools and hospitals were far from good, and they are still not good in the ex-communist countries, actually getting worse because they do not update knowledge and have a high national proud that blind them to recognise the effectiveness of western education and health care. How do I dare? Because I witnessed both, experienced the communist Eastern European as well as the Western European and the Australian education and health care
0606Jasmine 10 months ago
@0606Jasmine
Perhaps not the best, but schools were a privilege of noble people before socialism, most of the population was illiterate, that was solved in 10 years. Capitalism took more than 300 years to supress illiteracy at the most advanced countries. In many capitalist countries it was not even solved yet.
Swordman85 9 months ago 2
@0606Jasmine My mother, doctor in Socialist Romania until 1986, and doctor in The Netherlands thereafter, sais pretty much the opposite. She sais health care was very good, comparable to Western standards of the time - albeit in the last years of communism there was a slight shortage of equipment. The med school (she had to redo a part of the education in Holland) is actually better over there, she sais, and I believe her. Haven't often witnessed such a crappy education as is our med school xD
Tu16 7 months ago
@Tu16 so what do you say? where is better the med education and health care in Romania or in The Netherlands? What do you mean by "our" med school? The Romanian one? Generally the Eastern European one?
0606Jasmine 7 months ago
@0606Jasmine Ours - the Dutch one. I'm pretty sure Romanian doctors knnow a shitload more than Dutch doctors - they're probably just limited by worse equipment.
Tu16 7 months ago
@0606Jasmine Why don't you understand what he is saying to you? It is a personal experience, laid out for you.... I can tell u; despite, the shiny stuff, blackberry's, facebook, and Royal Dutch Shell succes, things in Holland are not so great as they are; including education. in fact, at the moment is it terrible. not to mention the influence of multiculturalism. and do not dear to dismiss that as a other issue because this stems right from the same 'democracy' bullshit. o guess where im from?
sebaz1982 4 months ago
@sebaz1982 I don't care where you are from. At the moment I study in a Dutch University. I know what is going on in unis in the former Eastern Block, as I had been studying there as well, as well as visited many collages and Unis all around the world - personally - and I can tell you, the Dutch education is not bad at all. You are either too young, or you haven't been to any universities or you haven't experienced different education systems, so therefore, better if you stay quiet.
0606Jasmine 4 months ago
@0606Jasmine ^^^ You think you're better because you study? I did study and I do have a degree. I have lived in different continents in the world, with education in SE-Asia and The Netherlands. The last 7 years I have lived in another country while visiting many others. Where is my medal!? lol Why are you, in such a despiccable rude and hypocritical way, judging others? Based on their age? university experience, etc... There is no debate with people like you. But thanks for the example narcist.
sebaz1982 4 months ago
@0606Jasmine excuse me?u want to say that life and things in west-europe are fine? effective? haha. im from west-europe and lived in many other parts of the world, and i can tell u one thing; the west is rich, not because of its great people and their system. no, because we have plundered other countries, changed regimes, colonialism, slavery, oil, war, resources, etc..u name it.. still going until this day. if u remove that, see whats left. we are rothschilds children. east is their next target
sebaz1982 4 months ago
@sebaz1982 I was talking about the method of education, This is better in Western countries. And many other things are also better in Western countries. The ruthless capitalism is a different issue.
0606Jasmine 4 months ago
@0606Jasmine "This is better in Western countries. And many other things are also better in Western countries"....... mmm... REALLY? anybody saying something like this has made up his or her mind already. you got a belief and conviction. I have a question for you; Do you know any of these families; Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Morgans ? oh and since when is the capitalism or any kind of 'ism' a different issue; it is one of the fundaments for education.. everything connected to it. get wise.
sebaz1982 4 months ago
@sebaz1982 The East is already a target , it has been since the 80's, and had been conquered by the western capitalists after the fall of the Berlin wall. They destroyed the Eastern agriculture and industry, they bought the factories just to close them, because they wanted them to buy their staff, and not to produce and sell theirs. For e.g.Hungary was used to be a big sugar exporter country...
0606Jasmine 4 months ago
@0606Jasmine wrong. western elite infiltrated the east (slavs) right from the time during the bolshevik revolution. always financing both sides (east/west) while keeping their own cow (west) at advantage in relation to the future while accelerating the collapse of the soviet union. a long term plan, really kickin of around the 80s. stalin kicked them out, just like putin is trying now. guess why the great 'western freedom' critics are demonizing(ed) both of them? helllooooo wakey wakey
sebaz1982 4 months ago
In the Stalinism the Government owned all the Capital, not the Proletariat, and the Government owned and shared the Profit among themselves why they constantly fed the people with lies.
0606Jasmine 10 months ago
@0606Jasmine
You should firstly study about something "Socialist accumulation of capital". They had to sacrifice some wealth in the name of State security, once the USSR was threatened by foreign powers as the UK, N. Germany and later USA.
Still, the best hospitals and school for workers were built, as well as a dynamic and advanced social system. How do you dare to claim that capital was not distributed among the Proletarians?
Swordman85 10 months ago
The "communists" run a dictatorship, that is regarding to it's way of functioning and Propaganda tools they used was not different from National Socialism. Liberal Capitalism is a short term benefit for the Capitalists, but in a long run they lose. America has already started losing. The world will settle one day in a system that is close to Marx's idea. Nowadays Sweden's socialist system is the closest to Marx's theory
0606Jasmine 10 months ago
@0606Jasmine
You should remember that since the beggining of XX century, and perhaps since the XVII century, Sweden does not face a single invasion of its territory. It's very easy to build an equalitarian system where you have no problems with invaders, differently from USSR, that was invaded by more than 20 countries in XX century simply for trying to build socialism.
They had to abdicate from many welfare options to defend their country, otherwise they would face the fate of Paris Commune.
Swordman85 9 months ago
@0606Jasmine
I would like to see Swedishes receiving high wages with high living standards if they had to fight an enemy like the Nazi Germany or if they had to protect themselves from US nuclear missiles pointed towards them, as well as if they had to fight insurrections as the one of Basmachi in USSR at 20's.
Needless to remember that Sweden is a vassal state of USA, they delivered arrested and delivered J. Assange to the US and awarded Obama with Nobel Prize of Peace, ridiculous!
Swordman85 9 months ago 2
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Leninism and Stalinism are not = with Marxism. Marx dream a world where part of the profit is shared amongst who work for it, the other part is used for development, investment in more Capital to increase Production and Profit, but nobody takes advantage on the labor, it is the labor who decide as they own the Capital and the Profit as well.
0606Jasmine 10 months ago
Leninism and Stalinism are not = with Marxism. Marx dream a world where part of the profit is shared amongst who work for it, the other part is used for developement, investment in more Capital to increase Production and Profit, but nobody takes advantage on the labor, it is the labor who decide as they own the Capital and the Profit as well.
0606Jasmine 10 months ago
@0606Jasmine
That may be applied to countries where the Capital IS stablished, which was not the case of USSR and many other E. European countries. Even the Democratic Germany had not enough capitals and industries, once most of them were destroyed during the war, specially in Dresden.
In USSR they had to accumulate capitals to develop industry and protect their country from invaders.
Swordman85 9 months ago
this is soviet, not hungarian! but I love it tooo:)))
senki91 1 year ago
ki/kik énekeli(k) ezeket a dalokat?
boriszbalkan 1 year ago
Köszi, hogy igy osszeszedted, és nagyon jól a lépek is.
margocica 1 year ago
Greetings from Indonesia, what a nice song! :)
Soutsian 1 year ago
@irredentapista nekem semmi bajom nincs a kisvállalkozókkal... nekem a világ és országméretűekkel van a gond azok koncentrálják a tőkét a kisvállalkozó az visszaforgatja a gazdaságba és a vállalkozásába és valamennyit zsebre tesz ez tök jó meg minden de amelyik országméretű vállalat és 1 hónap alatt annyit keres amivel vígan és röhögve ki tudnánk fizetni az államadóságunkat? na álljunk már meg azért... mások kenyeret nem tudnak enni....nekikmeg magán hajójuk van ami akkora mint egy csatahajó....
FuxosGabor 1 year ago
@FuxosGabor
Mindegy,nem akarok parttalan vitába vagy "beszélgetésbe" kezdeni.Az elképzeléseid már kínában és kubában sem működnek. Mentem a puruttyára. szevasz
irredentapista 1 year ago
@irredentapista az se mind1 milyen tőkés! én nem a kis vállalkozóról beszélek aki a megélhetésért alkalmaz munkásokat. nem...azért mert azok a munkásokkal ugyan úgy jóban vannak mivel emberi kapcsolatk is kiépülnek közöttük. én nem ezekről beszéltem hanem azokról akiknek 28 világméretű cége van és gyakorlatilag irányítja a gazdaságot...
FuxosGabor 1 year ago
Szóval....: a létbiztonság fantasztikusan jó volt .
walter5898 1 year ago
zengjük a dalt üde...
tulvergyongyi 1 year ago
ez nem a zengjük a dalt...
tulvergyongyi 1 year ago
Méghogy ennyi maradt a kommunistákból!
Voltunk, vagyunk, leszünk!
Éljen a szbadság!
jahselassie100 1 year ago 3
Az eszme az igen! Nincs ennél jobb! Csak hát az emberek.........
cheg75 1 year ago 3
@cheg75 igaz!
smokerizla 1 year ago
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@cheg75 igaz!!
smokerizla 1 year ago
@cheg75
smokerizla 1 year ago
Voltunk, vagyunk, leszünk. Szabadság!
DameVeraLynn 1 year ago 4
The kommunism is the future!
ocuma10 1 year ago 2
that's why i regret that i didn't live some 30-40 years before xD i love these songs, even if i know that they aim was to dazzle people. however, i think that it's a great idea, because many-many young people loved the communist system because of songs like these...
jaimelafrance19 1 year ago
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Jó, hogy a büdös komcsikból lassan csak ennyi marad.
MrLacika65 1 year ago
1:23
kelemen12ify 1 year ago
@ygan72
Igazad van, köszönjük meg nekik, hogy kiemeltek minket a sötét középkorból!
ixeltmobilekepviselo 1 year ago 2
When I was young, I thought middle age was over. Thanks to our communist regime. Now middle age is back. Who likes it?
ixeltmobilekepviselo 2 years ago
I'm young and i accept the socialist revolution in all over the world! I'm hungarian people and i love this song :)
FuxosGabor 2 years ago 3
Unfortunelly this video is watched by a few young people.
Swordman85 2 years ago 5
Don't worry about that. I'm from Serbia and i have 19 years. So foreigner+young. I very much like Hungary and i'm a communist, so definetly love the CD "Best of communism" and all songs from it. LONG LIVE MAGYARORSZAG, LONG LIVE COMMUNSM!!!
cccp975 2 years ago 6
majomszájú szerb kutya
szaboa123 1 year ago
i guess this was some kind of insult. well man, since you're a hungarian, i forgive the first time:D
cccp975 1 year ago
@szaboa123
Ritka nagy büdös bunkó vagy.
ixeltmobilekepviselo 1 year ago 2
Another one is here, though.
Tu16 1 year ago
You are, perhaps, the biggest faggot in the Internet.
szaboa123 1 year ago
@Swordman85 Is 18 years young enough?
Tu16 1 year ago
@Swordman85 Mirol beszelsz te BAROM!!!!!!!???? EN BENNE ELTEM, Es boldog voltam, sot BIZTONSAGBAN!!!!!! NEM VOLT KABITOSZER!!!! De voltak ZART HATAROK!!!! ES NEM VOLT GYERMEKRABLAS, es NEM VOLTAK ELMEBETEG ALLATOK AKIK ELRABOLNAK GYEREKEKET, es viszik amerre akarjak!!!! ZART H
msBLUEblood555 1 year ago
@Swordman85 How is that unfortunate?
tamafinatic 1 year ago
It´s a pleasure for me to share this song with ppl around the world, I was watching some interesting statistics on that video.
Hungarian women and men between 45-54 are the ones who mostly watched it, as the video is mostly watched in Hungary. There are a few spectators from all over the world, but none in Central Asia, Africa(but Morroco and SA), in M. Eastern only S. Arabia, Turkey and Iran watched it. In Americas, only Venezuela, Uruguay, Guianas and Paraguay are not among spectators.
Swordman85 2 years ago
Ez azért figyelemre méltó: "of Szoborpark"
irredentapista 2 years ago
Szoborpark és very beautiful!
Swordman85 2 years ago
Giardintek: But the language is Hungarian.
ozdisrac007 2 years ago
Very nice indeed, but this is not a Hungarian song, This is from the Soviet Union, Communist song.
Giardintek 2 years ago
It is Hungarian comrade, listen to the song, it´s Hungarian language, not Russian language.
Corvusdotensis 2 years ago
I know it is being sang in Hungarian, but the original version of this song is Soviet.
In Hungarian, it's called Bunkocska
Giardintek 2 years ago
I don´t think so, one of the songs(this one is a compilation of various compositions) is the song of Geyer Florian(Florián dal), a knight who was popular in Germany and Hungary, but not in Russian.
Actually, it´s curious how Floryan is the person that "everybody likes", he is considered a hero for communists, democrats and nazi as well.
Corvusdotensis 2 years ago
Please do your reasearch before arguing online. Lányi Sarolta translated this communist song onto Hungarian, She also wrote the Varsavianka lyrics which was also considered a Polish song by some, but originally is a Soviet song.
Giardintek 2 years ago
Bunkocska is one of songs from this Egyveleg, but not the only one.
Swordman85 2 years ago
It´s actually the gathering of various Hungarian songs, among them, the song of Geyer Florian, a German hero(he was little known to Russian communists, but very popular between German communists, as well as among nazi and German liberals). One of the songs is similar to the song "The White Army of a Black Baron", but it´s lyrics are completely different..
Let´s say that the composer of this "egyveleg" did what Tchaikovsky did when he composed the Ov. 1812.
Vashavjanka is originally Soviet.
Swordman85 2 years ago
@Giardintek
We, communists, we are made from aspecial material. And we never give up!
ixeltmobilekepviselo 1 year ago
Thanks for posting my friend. We are alive.
ELnaen 2 years ago
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The most beautiful Hungarian song. ????? FUCK!
sajkod 2 years ago
It´s good to see that a video of Erudite music got 23K views. That´s not bad, considering the age of this video.
Corvusdotensis 2 years ago
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Communism is just ridiculous. It's the idea of the weak.
The only true idea is the idea of Adolf Hitler.
You would have been beaten in 41 without the aid of the capitalist!
BlutundBoden88 2 years ago
pathetic ....
soromir666 2 years ago 2
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Örömmel hallgatom ezeket a dallamokat, mert olyankor sok-sok évet fiatalodom. Újra érzem azt a történelmi légkört, amikor a Vörös Hadsereg, az USA és bolgár hadseregek felszabadítottak bennünket az embertelenségből. Remélem még megélem, hogy a megyar fiatalok igy énekelnek a hazáról, a kapott szabadságról. Soha ne feledjük a hős katonákat, az áldozatokat és a győztes fegyvereket gyártó népek áldozatos
ygan72 2 years ago
If anything, YouTube showed that there are still a lot of commies and nazis out there.
GoFeri 2 years ago 4
Which is a good thing, because commies defeated fascism and they yet fight them.
Today, without socialist countries, the streets of Europe and Eurasia are full of nazi scum. We need commies again to put this scum where they deserve to be!
Swordman85 2 years ago
I'm a hungarian-communist too and I maked a video with the second song of this mix if you want watch it and comment . Da svidanya!
Andrismilitary 2 years ago 2
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asdhockey 2 years ago
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Good, and what would you communist say about the 70 MILLION victims of communist regimes around the world? Class enemies, no doubt...
Although I must admit, you make really good songs.
ytre9 2 years ago
Really, and what proofs do you have about these "70 millions"?
Let´s suppose that your numbers are true, well, capitalism eliminated around 80 millions of Native Indians when the Earth´s population was not bigger than 500 millions of souls, that´s a consense at modern historians. Some of them claim that Eastern Indias Company killed 200 millions of black persons, so what is the worse?
Again, nothing was proofed about your "millions of victims of communism".
Swordman85 2 years ago
This might be true. I don't argue. BUT - communism made this for about 80 years, the 'captalism' (which should stand for empires, republics and every state, which was not communist according to you or?) for centuries. Quite a difference, don't you thinkt?
ytre9 2 years ago
This might be true. I don't argue. BUT - communism made this for about 80 years, the 'captalism' (which should stand for empires, republics and every state, which was not communist according to you or?) for centuries. Quite a difference, don't you thinkt?
ytre9 2 years ago
The East India Company had nothing to do with Africa, in fact they helped shut down the slave trade, get your facts right.
Schmidtah 2 years ago
Sure that it had! It was responsible for Slavery trade, not only in Eastern Indias(the W. Indias was a misunderstood of the new American continent). Dozens of millions of people were slain during slavery traffic.
It´s good to remember that Dutch reign in Africa was one of the worse, even after the ending of slavery, the king Baldwin ordered his henchmen to amputate negros who refused to extract rubber from the trees, when the automobile industry was flourishing.
Swordman85 2 years ago
I' am hungarian, and communist. This song is a very good mix. I know it. Slava comrades!
tavariskommisar 2 years ago 2
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I think the Hungarians have demonstrated their opinion of the bloody communist dictatorship.
ytre9 3 years ago
Burgueoise Hungarians demonstrated their opinion, you meant, which is not surprise. Actually, what every burgueois in the world and their comparses want is the same, workers working for lesser and lesser wages to make profit.
Their society is full of contraditions and I am pretty sure that it will not make great classical composition as Popular and Socialist societies did. As an Arab saying goes, "the caravan goes and the dogs enrage".
Swordman85 3 years ago
Hungary
Hntrspl 3 years ago 2
Egyik nagy kedvencem :))!!! Maga a zene nagyon szép!!!
henut87 3 years ago 6
"Those who listen to classic music will never be alone"
I don´t wanna engage the political debate, but something that I love at communism(and a reason for that it will always get my admiration) is that it produces and sponsors classic music, while capitalism produces and sponsors "pop music" and stupid people.
Corvusdotensis 3 years ago 21
So you think, that there wasn't created any classical music in the age of capitalism, and never will be? Interesting, but then again, I should say, it's stupid. Do not listen to too much pop music.:)
Kalgaba 3 years ago
There is classical music at capitalist age, but I suppose that what he meant is that capitalism does not promote culture. Have you ever see great TVs or great companies promoting a concert of Tchaykovskiy or Bhrams? No, they promote shows of Madonna or Brittish Spears.
I don´t think that his post is stupid, but pretty accurate. Plus, do not forget that most of these pop artists are culturally illiterate.
CRTVBR 3 years ago 6
Ócseny kraszívájá... :))))))
juxco67 3 years ago 7
It means "очен красивая", "very beautiful", as said in Russian :))))
Corvusdotensis 3 years ago 5
Amazing variety of the famous songs!
TrueCommunist 3 years ago 7
Famous Communist, Revolutionary, Russian Civil War and Prole songs!
TrueCommunist 3 years ago 10
Ma hol vannak az ilyen dalok?
netulla 3 years ago 28
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szerencsére sehol
HunyadiSS 3 years ago
szerencsére ? :D
HatlabuFarkas 3 years ago
Wonderful songs and images, thank you for uploading it!
Kind regards,
Viktor.
Ghouma 3 years ago 7
GergelyMA!
Geyer Flórián (1490 - 1525) frank nemes, német birodalmi lovag, Luther híveként a parasztháború egyik vezére.
mammancs 3 years ago 5
Ja, és a végére is marad még egy kis Bunkócska...XD :D
jocking2 3 years ago 3
Ez tényleg egy egyveleg.:D
Elejeén van benne egy kis Bunkócska, aztán átvált Bécsi Munkásidulóra, utána jön a tényleges Zengjük a Dalt, a végén meg még van egy kis Geyer Flórián Dala is.XD
jocking2 3 years ago 2
Igen, regebbrol ismertem! Ki volt Geyer Florian? Kerlek osszatok meg velem! Köszönöm!
GergelyMA 3 years ago
ditto
Djeff70 3 years ago
What a wonderful song, thank you. As Finnish and Hungarian are related languages I think I can make out few words here and there but I doubt that the meaning is exactly same.
LuciaArkwright 3 years ago 8
Nice music.
Nice sculpture.
Thanks for posting.
Cheers.
from,
del-boy.
PanchoPonchoMariachi 4 years ago 2