i met the love of my life in middle school at 14 yrs old we are 23 now and we have a handsome lil 5 about to be 6 year old son thats is our world .... and we are still goin strong working on 10 yrs together :) HOW MANY PPL CAN SAY WE MET IN MIDDLE SCHOOL AND STILL TOGETEHR !!!!! realationship are about us not me and you , and like he says you take the good with the bad :)
what about the (sometimes even measurable) energy between people? I get his point, absolutely, but I think I could relate better to it if we would call the "nothing" "everything" cause that is what it is at the same time..
one might want to take a look at the quantum level of relationships and communication to get a deeper understanding of this.
("Quantum Communication" and "Conversations with God" are a movie and book that should be seen and read by every seeking seeker out there, in my eyes ;)
Jeff, might be interesting to sit down with your 2 year old and explain to him that mommy and daddy are free beings who might go our own free way tomorrow. We are only here together as long as we enjoy hanging out together. Best of luck little fellow.
actually, that would be a lot more understanding than the average contentious divorce. And the two would retain mutual respect for each other and continue to care for the child. Just like any couple that splits. Or at least the ones who follow through on their responsibility to the child. Reality = relationships do not always last, relationships change. Better to be real about it, than delusional.
@litttlebittt Man, whatever. Anyways, a dude who spends as much time commenting on Jeff Foster footage as yourself should be well aware by now that he talks about the "why say anything?" question more than probably any other teacher out there.
@litttlebittt Certainly, that is absolutely a possibility that's included in This; nothing is rejected here. Another possibility included in This is that you get the sand outta your vagina and quit making a big ol' fuckin' deal outta nothing.
@litttlebittt And language is dualistic. If you want to pick apart every contradiction in his speech, you're going to have to pause it every couple of seconds to comment. What's being pointed to precedes thought, precedes language.
How about we just drop all the nouns and talk about relat-ing? Like with ego, think of the activity and therefore a verb, which of course is also related to the idea of a doer. But if there's just doing any relating is just the natural dance spontaneously happening, any dance partner that happens to hang out with you just happens to do so because they're doing their dance.
Of course, when we're self conscious we might want to take a class and do it by the book, but that's more noun based forms.
oure personality is also a illusion of thought. relationships can only be 'real" through that personality. once you see that you (as a person) does not exist, then there can't be a relationsship. it is a bubble of thoughts wich exists only in youre mind. in reality there is just this.
@gainsbourg66 Isn't the truth of any relationship that either party could walk away at any time? Whether it's "okay" or not is another matter entirely.
@ikkyu15 I believe that Jeff Foster (in fact all those "awakened" to non dualism) are simply experiencing depersonalisation (DP) and interpreting it in a mystical light. He doesn't believe he has a girlfriend to walk away from - it is just oneness "girlfriending". He thinks he's just oneness "Jeff-ing" - so there's no separate person to have any morals or even choice. DP may provide the truth about reality even if it appears to psychiatrists to be a brain malfunction. There's no way of knowing.
@gainsbourg66 It's not as though people experiencing "Personalisation" have any issue with morals, is it? And I've yet to hear of Mooji robbing a liquor store, or Tony Parsons being a serial killer, or Eckhart Tolle being a child molester... The lack of a sense of self doesn't mean that "anything goes," in fact since there's no self doing battle with itself it seems to me that there would be an even more strict adherence to so-called morals.
Why do you feel this? Look within yourself and ask why you have a negative thought in relation to nondualism. Could it be a personal bias, such as a desire to experience it and subsequent unhappiness that one isn't, and therefore a desire to "tear it down." And most enlightened people will say the mystical and/or supernatural type explanation is empty in itself.
@TheDesertFox - Actually I have briefly experienced derealization/depersonalzation (as part of a drug experience) and it had a profound effect on me. Since that time I've always known that reality may not be what it appears to be. Concepts such as space, matter and separation may be illusions. I found that experience to be lonely and terrifying. Afterwards, as I looked at my children I thought...so none of them are real - even I am not real! I longed for the old illusion of reality to return.
I disagree. Not specifically with the possession thing. But with the fact that there is no relationship. There is always ONLY that. Not in the conventional sense that is based on prior separation, but one based on prior unity. It's true, nothing happens simply by an appearance, but relationship is always already the case. The mutual surrender in it is the realization of unity. Talk is cheap. Know someone via heart recognition.
Thats the best description ive ever heard on relationships - now im awake about rships! Its so obvious we never own anyone - only the mind is projecting that we own and control something or that they are ours or owned, in reality they can do whatever they want and are just another expression of ourselfs and we laugh play and share affection haha. Hillarious, fights arent needed!!
I find this hilarious and beautiful. Quick question, is his gf "enlightened" or whatever you want to call the great illusion. Not that it matters, just wondering.
throw away all concepts on non-duality, oneness, God, Atheism, and abide in YOU. You will find the truth only in this way. Let the truth reveal itself as anything whatsoever. Only then can you be free.
This is too simple, he can walk away, she can walk away. He can blow her brains out, she can blow his brains out, also true. Freedom in the absoloute without compassion of the conditioned relative is the abode of the super ego.
ok we are lost? sounds like this is intellectual channelling? Left brain is functioning on this channel and he is quite correct he is definitely channeling NON-DUALITY...
One experience will not give you a permanent experience of beyond, nor will the insight that you are not or the drive that releases you from depression yet binds you to being free yet bound to conceptual Advaitic truths.
there is no way in whichy you are not bounded, if you have these advaita concepts. By the way, why nonduality? We come from non-duality, and we are evolving as separate selves. Why should we go BACK to primitive times? Maybe life is meant that we become separate beings.
"Why nonduality?" Maybe because it's the truth. If there's the insight that you're NOT a separate being, the question why you should go back to the 'primitive times' that you weren't a separate self, does not arise.
I mean we have evolved, we should keep evolving rather than going back. By the way non-dulity is a concept. If you wanna be free, throw all concepts and philosophies. ( listen to John Sherman)
I love this video. I love how he hold holds "relationship" up as a bubble in the air. He can not hold her. She is free to walk away. He is free to walk away.
@efsaturn - What about if you have children - do you still feel you are free to walk away because a relationship just a "bubble in the air?" Of of course, I forgot children don't really exist so just do what you want shall be the whole of the law now.
can def relate to the children issue as father of 2. But if one no longer moves as a person but is a participant in the cosmic flow, how can this go wrong (or be expected to adhere to current societal norms all the time)? many teachers do not live with or see their kids often at all, the Buddah himself left his wife and kids. some tools are better suited for some jobs than others. many have been affected by Gautama the Buddah, would Gautama, great father, have similar effect?
@prinzdubs I believe in morals. Whatever the "cosmic flow" you talk of is - it is amoral. To believe otherwise is to believe in purpose or God. Buddha was experiencing depersonalisation, as are all teachers of advaita. Once you believe reality to be an illusion - anything goes, good or bad. Potentially, it has has the same, amorality as satanism - "do what thy wilt shall be the whole of the law". Many believe that Aleistair Crowley's amorality was not evil, merely enlightened and liberated.
morals are learned and vary from society to society so obv the cosmic flow of the universe will not always adhere to ur morals. advaita has nothing to do with morals bc it has nothing to do with actions at all. advaita teachers want you to realize for urself that u are not the doer of actions nor the thinker of thought. right action will spring forth from this realization spontaneously. but why argue belief vs belief? go beyond belief and experience urself directly--no words.
@prinzdubs -the whole notion of non duality has arisen over millenia from people affected by depersonalisation "disorder" - they can't come to any other conclusion because it's what they actually experience. Depersonalised people can still have morals (or say hunger or sex drive) but because there is no sense of self they say these things "are happening to no one". Consequently their world is full of contradictions and absurdities - so they assume that morals, like anything dual, must be absurd
ur last sentence cant be further from the truth. cant u see that 'DP' 'disorder' are labels applied by ppl in the position of assuming there is one right way to view things (the way they experience it) and other ways are wrong or the result of some malfunction. psychologists also display this by not seeing the way a baby perceives the world (the oceanic experience) to be as valid as the way an adult sees it (through the filter of a seperate personal 'i'). enlightened=like a baby
neither dualism nor nondualism is more valid than the other. a baby doesnt distinguish between what it does and what happens to it (nondual). it then learns to associate with its tool (the body) and takes the body to be 'me'. now it sees itself as separate and independent of its environment (dual). the 'i am the body' idea can be exposed as just thought and when perceiving directly, without the filters thought provides, we're back at perceiving like the baby (nondual).
..... not to say u must leave ur kids. freedom can express in all forms. Papaji, Mooji's guru, was a family man who was an engineer and ran an engineering company--complex stuff that seems like it needs a person to be running the show. simply not the case tho. that's just how it played out. he seemed like a very busy man but if u asked him he'd say 'nothing ever happened and I've never done a thing' ;) he knew he wasnt the person, regardless of actions apparently taken.
depressing non alive cunt,you are afraid to touch life,you jeff are are a chicken,a frightened chicken,you say nothing has changed,what is ,is you are a dickhead
Who is this guy? He´s smart, and he´s not! :)
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Hybrid2525 4 months ago
what about the (sometimes even measurable) energy between people? I get his point, absolutely, but I think I could relate better to it if we would call the "nothing" "everything" cause that is what it is at the same time..
one might want to take a look at the quantum level of relationships and communication to get a deeper understanding of this.
("Quantum Communication" and "Conversations with God" are a movie and book that should be seen and read by every seeking seeker out there, in my eyes ;)
Kazinggg 6 months ago
she haven't walked away because you have this freedom and understanding.
sumitraji 7 months ago
There seems to be this hidden assumption of implicit exclusivity in most relationships.
watjemaarwild 7 months ago
Jeff, might be interesting to sit down with your 2 year old and explain to him that mommy and daddy are free beings who might go our own free way tomorrow. We are only here together as long as we enjoy hanging out together. Best of luck little fellow.
kerouac818 7 months ago
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actually, that would be a lot more understanding than the average contentious divorce. And the two would retain mutual respect for each other and continue to care for the child. Just like any couple that splits. Or at least the ones who follow through on their responsibility to the child. Reality = relationships do not always last, relationships change. Better to be real about it, than delusional.
laughhearty 6 months ago
@kerouac818 People do that anyway. Most of the time, they don’t bother to explain to the 2 year old.
GiacomoJimmi 1 month ago
@GiacomoJimmi Like my mother says—who has been married for 36 years, by the way—marriage is just a piece of paper.
GiacomoJimmi 1 month ago
@litttlebittt Lighten up and accept my friend invite.
EdenConsciousness 8 months ago
@litttlebittt I bet you're a blast at parties.
EdenConsciousness 8 months ago
@litttlebittt Man, whatever. Anyways, a dude who spends as much time commenting on Jeff Foster footage as yourself should be well aware by now that he talks about the "why say anything?" question more than probably any other teacher out there.
EdenConsciousness 8 months ago
@litttlebittt Certainly, that is absolutely a possibility that's included in This; nothing is rejected here. Another possibility included in This is that you get the sand outta your vagina and quit making a big ol' fuckin' deal outta nothing.
EdenConsciousness 8 months ago
@litttlebittt And language is dualistic. If you want to pick apart every contradiction in his speech, you're going to have to pause it every couple of seconds to comment. What's being pointed to precedes thought, precedes language.
EdenConsciousness 8 months ago
How about we just drop all the nouns and talk about relat-ing? Like with ego, think of the activity and therefore a verb, which of course is also related to the idea of a doer. But if there's just doing any relating is just the natural dance spontaneously happening, any dance partner that happens to hang out with you just happens to do so because they're doing their dance.
Of course, when we're self conscious we might want to take a class and do it by the book, but that's more noun based forms.
selloutworld 9 months ago
the weedy guy looks like something i pulled out of my ass crack
after spending all day put up shelves without any pants on
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so if she goes off and has a passionate fling....that's ok.
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yeah, you both enjoy hanging out and both enjoy not having to look for someone else to hang out with.
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namalkotage 1 year ago
I don't like his view of love, but that's my opinion.. but i mean i do like what he's saying
IncarceratedScars 1 year ago
Profound and spot on! :)
rosenbar 1 year ago
oure personality is also a illusion of thought. relationships can only be 'real" through that personality. once you see that you (as a person) does not exist, then there can't be a relationsship. it is a bubble of thoughts wich exists only in youre mind. in reality there is just this.
kaifinn 1 year ago
He has been here many times over. So insightful and wise.
aMUSEher 1 year ago
He is so insightful. He has been here many times over.
aMUSEher 1 year ago
great video! so true
elphi76 1 year ago
So what if you have a child...okay if you just "freely" walk away from her then?...or if she walks away from the child?
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66 Isn't the truth of any relationship that either party could walk away at any time? Whether it's "okay" or not is another matter entirely.
ikkyu15 1 year ago
@ikkyu15 I believe that Jeff Foster (in fact all those "awakened" to non dualism) are simply experiencing depersonalisation (DP) and interpreting it in a mystical light. He doesn't believe he has a girlfriend to walk away from - it is just oneness "girlfriending". He thinks he's just oneness "Jeff-ing" - so there's no separate person to have any morals or even choice. DP may provide the truth about reality even if it appears to psychiatrists to be a brain malfunction. There's no way of knowing.
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66 It's not as though people experiencing "Personalisation" have any issue with morals, is it? And I've yet to hear of Mooji robbing a liquor store, or Tony Parsons being a serial killer, or Eckhart Tolle being a child molester... The lack of a sense of self doesn't mean that "anything goes," in fact since there's no self doing battle with itself it seems to me that there would be an even more strict adherence to so-called morals.
ikkyu15 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
Why do you feel this? Look within yourself and ask why you have a negative thought in relation to nondualism. Could it be a personal bias, such as a desire to experience it and subsequent unhappiness that one isn't, and therefore a desire to "tear it down." And most enlightened people will say the mystical and/or supernatural type explanation is empty in itself.
TheDesertFox 1 year ago
@TheDesertFox - Actually I have briefly experienced derealization/depersonalzation (as part of a drug experience) and it had a profound effect on me. Since that time I've always known that reality may not be what it appears to be. Concepts such as space, matter and separation may be illusions. I found that experience to be lonely and terrifying. Afterwards, as I looked at my children I thought...so none of them are real - even I am not real! I longed for the old illusion of reality to return.
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
I disagree. Not specifically with the possession thing. But with the fact that there is no relationship. There is always ONLY that. Not in the conventional sense that is based on prior separation, but one based on prior unity. It's true, nothing happens simply by an appearance, but relationship is always already the case. The mutual surrender in it is the realization of unity. Talk is cheap. Know someone via heart recognition.
Luxmjya 1 year ago
Thats the best description ive ever heard on relationships - now im awake about rships! Its so obvious we never own anyone - only the mind is projecting that we own and control something or that they are ours or owned, in reality they can do whatever they want and are just another expression of ourselfs and we laugh play and share affection haha. Hillarious, fights arent needed!!
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HE IS TALKING COMPLETE AND TOTAL SHIT!
semplespacemodule 2 years ago
Krishnamurti.
meghan42 2 years ago 3
I find this hilarious and beautiful. Quick question, is his gf "enlightened" or whatever you want to call the great illusion. Not that it matters, just wondering.
pizzahutgood 2 years ago
were already enlightened, its the realization that your enlightened and believing it!
beyond1Mind 2 years ago
Brilliant! Right on! This is so true! Possession kills love. Love flows free.
DivineNatureAwakens 2 years ago 4
throw away all concepts on non-duality, oneness, God, Atheism, and abide in YOU. You will find the truth only in this way. Let the truth reveal itself as anything whatsoever. Only then can you be free.
mrcuteblackie 2 years ago 2
This is too simple, he can walk away, she can walk away. He can blow her brains out, she can blow his brains out, also true. Freedom in the absoloute without compassion of the conditioned relative is the abode of the super ego.
hfump9 2 years ago
so, in 'non duality' - wouldn't we be fine with them 'there' in the morning or them 'not there' as well...
Where could they go? if we're all 'One' - how could they 'walk away'? - where is there to 'walk to'?
Sitting in the Center of All - no good bye's exist there.
tobiaslarsgunnar 2 years ago
Non-duality or oneness are not pointing to what should be, it's describing what is
nicholaspowiull 2 years ago
ok we are lost? sounds like this is intellectual channelling? Left brain is functioning on this channel and he is quite correct he is definitely channeling NON-DUALITY...
goldraytwinflames 3 years ago
One experience will not give you a permanent experience of beyond, nor will the insight that you are not or the drive that releases you from depression yet binds you to being free yet bound to conceptual Advaitic truths.
Robasis 3 years ago
there is no way in whichy you are not bounded, if you have these advaita concepts. By the way, why nonduality? We come from non-duality, and we are evolving as separate selves. Why should we go BACK to primitive times? Maybe life is meant that we become separate beings.
mrcuteblackie 2 years ago
"Why nonduality?" Maybe because it's the truth. If there's the insight that you're NOT a separate being, the question why you should go back to the 'primitive times' that you weren't a separate self, does not arise.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 3
I mean we have evolved, we should keep evolving rather than going back. By the way non-dulity is a concept. If you wanna be free, throw all concepts and philosophies. ( listen to John Sherman)
mrcuteblackie 2 years ago
Everything unfolds ('evolves') through God's power. It doesn't leave the centre. There's no going out, there's no going back.
IpsaPaphum 2 years ago 2
I love this video. I love how he hold holds "relationship" up as a bubble in the air. He can not hold her. She is free to walk away. He is free to walk away.
efsaturn 3 years ago 9
@efsaturn - What about if you have children - do you still feel you are free to walk away because a relationship just a "bubble in the air?" Of of course, I forgot children don't really exist so just do what you want shall be the whole of the law now.
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
can def relate to the children issue as father of 2. But if one no longer moves as a person but is a participant in the cosmic flow, how can this go wrong (or be expected to adhere to current societal norms all the time)? many teachers do not live with or see their kids often at all, the Buddah himself left his wife and kids. some tools are better suited for some jobs than others. many have been affected by Gautama the Buddah, would Gautama, great father, have similar effect?
prinzdubs 1 year ago
@prinzdubs I believe in morals. Whatever the "cosmic flow" you talk of is - it is amoral. To believe otherwise is to believe in purpose or God. Buddha was experiencing depersonalisation, as are all teachers of advaita. Once you believe reality to be an illusion - anything goes, good or bad. Potentially, it has has the same, amorality as satanism - "do what thy wilt shall be the whole of the law". Many believe that Aleistair Crowley's amorality was not evil, merely enlightened and liberated.
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
morals are learned and vary from society to society so obv the cosmic flow of the universe will not always adhere to ur morals. advaita has nothing to do with morals bc it has nothing to do with actions at all. advaita teachers want you to realize for urself that u are not the doer of actions nor the thinker of thought. right action will spring forth from this realization spontaneously. but why argue belief vs belief? go beyond belief and experience urself directly--no words.
prinzdubs 1 year ago
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gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@prinzdubs -the whole notion of non duality has arisen over millenia from people affected by depersonalisation "disorder" - they can't come to any other conclusion because it's what they actually experience. Depersonalised people can still have morals (or say hunger or sex drive) but because there is no sense of self they say these things "are happening to no one". Consequently their world is full of contradictions and absurdities - so they assume that morals, like anything dual, must be absurd
gainsbourg66 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
ur last sentence cant be further from the truth. cant u see that 'DP' 'disorder' are labels applied by ppl in the position of assuming there is one right way to view things (the way they experience it) and other ways are wrong or the result of some malfunction. psychologists also display this by not seeing the way a baby perceives the world (the oceanic experience) to be as valid as the way an adult sees it (through the filter of a seperate personal 'i'). enlightened=like a baby
prinzdubs 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
neither dualism nor nondualism is more valid than the other. a baby doesnt distinguish between what it does and what happens to it (nondual). it then learns to associate with its tool (the body) and takes the body to be 'me'. now it sees itself as separate and independent of its environment (dual). the 'i am the body' idea can be exposed as just thought and when perceiving directly, without the filters thought provides, we're back at perceiving like the baby (nondual).
prinzdubs 1 year ago
@gainsbourg66
..... not to say u must leave ur kids. freedom can express in all forms. Papaji, Mooji's guru, was a family man who was an engineer and ran an engineering company--complex stuff that seems like it needs a person to be running the show. simply not the case tho. that's just how it played out. he seemed like a very busy man but if u asked him he'd say 'nothing ever happened and I've never done a thing' ;) he knew he wasnt the person, regardless of actions apparently taken.
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depressing non alive cunt,you are afraid to touch life,you jeff are are a chicken,a frightened chicken,you say nothing has changed,what is ,is you are a dickhead
goldendawn1975 3 years ago
are you an ex-girlfriend or something ?
claudelebel55 3 years ago