yeah i wouldnt say a matchup has changed because one guy rapes everyone with peach. i mean wobbles beats every other peach besides armada with icies, doesnt make it in icies favor
You base this upon what? That Armada rapes the best Fox players? His Peach is MUCH better than anyone else's Fox. Character skill must be factored when matchup charts are made. Fox-Peach is still a bad matchup for Peach - Armada's just that much better with his character. In terms of player skill (knowledge of the game, smarts etc.), Mango can keep up, but his character skill (consistency, spacing, techskill etc.) gets bodied by Armada's. It's about time he starts to practice.
why even bother in saying "oh this character is better than this one in this matchup" everything is situational, the game is still the same since it came out, nothing has changed, and look peach beating the crap out of fox, so im just saying its meaningless to argue about which character is better, anyone can win if they have the right moves at the right situation
@quenchify well yes, and that's probably because not much people use them, probably because they are in the bottom in the tier list. but they both have a couple moves that if well used could lead to a victory just as any other character. what im saying is melee is just a mindgame, if you are able to read your oponent cearly you'll win regardless of the character you use.
@rocksbarman they are not in the bottom in the tier list because nobody uses them. they are in the bottom because they are not a good character to use. kirby/pichu won't be winning nationals lol
@quenchify why not? young link actually won this tournament as you may know. if a character is "good" or "bad" its such an argueable matter. and let's be real how many people as beginers would go like "oh i wanna play kirby/pichu" and start getting better at them? not as many as the ones who would pick falco or fox or c. falcon or marth, or any other flashy to the eye character, just take a look at how much people in tournaments pick them even if they are good players or not.
@rocksbarman You seem to misunderstand the meaning of a tier list. It doesn't measure how "good" a character is, it measures the character's potential.
Love You mango I knew You lost the set but its so hard to believe watching the whole set. Wish I was there at that time would cheer best match by far.
Armada outplayed Mango pretty badly. Due to him raping all the Fox players, people tend to forget that it's a 65-35 mu in Fox's favor. Despite that, Mango didn't even take a match. Inconsistent? His own fault for not practicing enough. If Armada lost due to inconsistency, no one would consider it a legitimate excuse. Playing too aggressively? No, aggressive play is fine vs Peach - he just needs to be smarter about it and not spam techskill as much.
@ArmadaUGS Someone made a movie about you and your smash success. its titled "Armada- The Beast Is Unleashed" i dont know if you've seen it yet, but its REALLY impressive
@Triplethreat99 Mango's Puff has been out of the scene for nearly two years. He occasionally pulls it out in teams, but in singles, his Puff is no longer the best.
I want to congratulate Armada. Glad all these games came down to their last stocks. Just wish Mango would have tried Falco. He seemed to be doing okay in crews vs Aramda.
Armadas sucks.
Mirrorthrone68 5 days ago
@6:07 OOOOOOOOH MYYY GOOOOOOD lol
lordn3m3sis 1 week ago
who's coaching Armada?
KrizK7 1 week ago
@KrizK7 Leffen
alegreman07 1 week ago
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TrucidOL8R 2 weeks ago
Oh my goodness.
All I know is that there needs to be more sets of these guys.
Hawke90 2 weeks ago
Mango is better.
XxXDeathZeltaXxX 3 weeks ago
I don't know what Armada's drinking but I want it.
Linkenfant 3 weeks ago 2
yeah i wouldnt say a matchup has changed because one guy rapes everyone with peach. i mean wobbles beats every other peach besides armada with icies, doesnt make it in icies favor
KaloKross 4 weeks ago
@xianglongfa Armada thinks it's 65-35. He's pretty up to date on the current metagame.
DirEnRefused 1 month ago in playlist Apex 2012: Melee Singles
AR watch out for the next tournament. Mang0 learn to play peach. xD
Apeximum 1 month ago
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really dont understand why that was even said and why all you fags liked it
considering i havent won a tourney since we've been together LMAOOOO
and i cant speak for lilian but i can say one thing
she dont fux around with gay ass young link picking ass niggas
baller ass mango spacies or nothing
MangoPlus69 1 month ago
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MangoPlus69 1 month ago
mango either needs to camp w/ shdl, or just go falcon
LoverDino 1 month ago
peach down smash = gey
stevenjiii 1 month ago in playlist Apex 2012: Melee Singles
Mango should've gone falco, his falco was looking great this tournament
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2:16 Camera can't keep up with such an intense battle.
VergilSFD 1 month ago
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2:16 Camera can't keep up with such an intense battle.
VergilSFD 1 month ago
2:16 Camera can't keep up with such an intense battle.
VergilSFD 1 month ago
Who doesn't wanna bang Armada?
BewareOfHills 1 month ago 7
whos the guy sitting next to mango?
baldomero55 1 month ago in playlist Apex 2012: Melee Singles
@baldomero55 hugs
ajajayjay 1 month ago
Armada's punish game is simply toooo good.
Thanos828 1 month ago
Peach's downsmash is fucking retarded.
wabitgirl 1 month ago 3
@wabitgirl Fucking. Retarded.
LordoKarnage 1 month ago
Mango is a real man.
chic1014 1 month ago
@xianglongfa
You base this upon what? That Armada rapes the best Fox players? His Peach is MUCH better than anyone else's Fox. Character skill must be factored when matchup charts are made. Fox-Peach is still a bad matchup for Peach - Armada's just that much better with his character. In terms of player skill (knowledge of the game, smarts etc.), Mango can keep up, but his character skill (consistency, spacing, techskill etc.) gets bodied by Armada's. It's about time he starts to practice.
123Shine 1 month ago
The biased commentary. So shitty.
fliperotchy 1 month ago
Armada is too good, and Peach is on steroïds!
ZeroBlindDragon 1 month ago
I say 55-45 in Fox's favor. I think it's almost even between him and Peach.
alegreman07 1 month ago
Id give it a 60-40 matchup. I mean technically fox can play really gay and camp around shooting lazers then go for the upsmash kill
smashchamp117 1 month ago
@xianglongfa Yeah, but Armada still thinks that Fox wins this, 65:35. So...
SonOfMana100 1 month ago
Good shit armada
Hypethug 1 month ago
After watching this I'm even further convinced that Mango is the best.
BaKeYFox 1 month ago
why even bother in saying "oh this character is better than this one in this matchup" everything is situational, the game is still the same since it came out, nothing has changed, and look peach beating the crap out of fox, so im just saying its meaningless to argue about which character is better, anyone can win if they have the right moves at the right situation
rocksbarman 1 month ago
@rocksbarman tier list. you don't see pichu or kirby winning tournaments lol
quenchify 2 weeks ago
@quenchify well yes, and that's probably because not much people use them, probably because they are in the bottom in the tier list. but they both have a couple moves that if well used could lead to a victory just as any other character. what im saying is melee is just a mindgame, if you are able to read your oponent cearly you'll win regardless of the character you use.
rocksbarman 1 day ago
@rocksbarman they are not in the bottom in the tier list because nobody uses them. they are in the bottom because they are not a good character to use. kirby/pichu won't be winning nationals lol
quenchify 1 day ago
@quenchify why not? young link actually won this tournament as you may know. if a character is "good" or "bad" its such an argueable matter. and let's be real how many people as beginers would go like "oh i wanna play kirby/pichu" and start getting better at them? not as many as the ones who would pick falco or fox or c. falcon or marth, or any other flashy to the eye character, just take a look at how much people in tournaments pick them even if they are good players or not.
rocksbarman 1 day ago
@rocksbarman ignorant
quenchify 18 hours ago
@rocksbarman You seem to misunderstand the meaning of a tier list. It doesn't measure how "good" a character is, it measures the character's potential.
IronSquid37 14 hours ago
Love You mango I knew You lost the set but its so hard to believe watching the whole set. Wish I was there at that time would cheer best match by far.
INSANECRAZYHODAPP 1 month ago
I really enjoy the cameras with their faces, especially for this match.
Raizen126 1 month ago
armada is so good and hes using peach
mrgoodfight14 1 month ago
when armada took 2nd styock.... shit
mrgoodfight14 1 month ago
mad smooth comentator
pr0gressd 1 month ago
Don't Go Out There Mango
Oosanbashi 1 month ago
@xianglongfa
Armada outplayed Mango pretty badly. Due to him raping all the Fox players, people tend to forget that it's a 65-35 mu in Fox's favor. Despite that, Mango didn't even take a match. Inconsistent? His own fault for not practicing enough. If Armada lost due to inconsistency, no one would consider it a legitimate excuse. Playing too aggressively? No, aggressive play is fine vs Peach - he just needs to be smarter about it and not spam techskill as much.
123Shine 1 month ago
mango is still the best
thaqiwagee 1 month ago
Looks like Milktea is gonna have to start banging armada...
Dimaki7 1 month ago 171
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not funny, but way more disappointed @ the upvotes
TrucidOL8R 1 month ago
@TrucidOL8R how is that not funny?
telilj24 1 month ago 18
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@TrucidOL8R word.
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@Dimaki7 I only get with people who can win tournaments without timing out at 8 minutes and counter-picking though. :O :).
miilktea 1 month ago
@miilktea so...nobody?
bigd926 1 month ago 30
@miilktea
Counterpick?
Guess Mango falls short here aswell then =).
Mango: Rom4?
ArmadaUGS 1 month ago 46
@ArmadaUGS Someone made a movie about you and your smash success. its titled "Armada- The Beast Is Unleashed" i dont know if you've seen it yet, but its REALLY impressive
RyoBeat0 2 weeks ago
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@miilktea TELL EM LIL >:D
-Toph
Oosanbashi 1 month ago
@miilktea
but he owned your boyfriend straight up at genesis and in here.
Pontus501 5 days ago 8
@Triplethreat99 Mango's Puff has been out of the scene for nearly two years. He occasionally pulls it out in teams, but in singles, his Puff is no longer the best.
I want to congratulate Armada. Glad all these games came down to their last stocks. Just wish Mango would have tried Falco. He seemed to be doing okay in crews vs Aramda.
4x4forlyfe 1 month ago
Armada the best now after this tournament. Good set guys.
Zande19 1 month ago 2
6:07 was pure OMG...
marioxwarrior 1 month ago
I dont why Mango just pulls out that Puff and rapes Armada. He probably wants to give the fas some exciting matches
Triplethreat99 1 month ago
@Triplethreat99 Because then Armada will pull out YL and play like he played against Hungrybox.
louman7777777 1 month ago in playlist More videos from apextournament
@louman7777777 Just because that works in HBOX doesnt mean it will work on Mango. MangosPuff is far better than HBOX's.
Triplethreat99 1 month ago
@Triplethreat99 Lol, no it's not.
DirEnRefused 1 month ago
@Triplethreat99
I don't think Mango's Puff would even beat Armada's Peach anymore, let alone his Ylink.
123Shine 1 month ago
@123Shine Who knows, I think he could. Guess we haveto wait and find out
Triplethreat99 1 month ago
Disappointing end... <3 Mang0,
Apeximum 1 month ago
Good set. Hope to see Mango challenge Armada again.
TacticsRamza 1 month ago
armada ia too rape.
TheOrlly 1 month ago
rofl mango, what a loser
Hornilope 1 month ago
was mango vs hbox recorded?
iamdirectlybehindyou 1 month ago in playlist More videos from apextournament
It sucks that Awesome Games Done Quick speedrun charity marathon was the same weekend as Apex.
I wasn't able to watch much other than the grand finals match. The chat was fucking horrible for that whole thing. =\
trihex 1 month ago
Armada 2good, I'm a believer.
F8isRIPPIN 1 month ago
Agagagagagagaggagaga.
Grolironde 1 month ago
Oh man. Tight as ever, and every game came down to the last stock, but still...
Three fucking oh, man.
Gastogh 1 month ago
may as well not even upload the rest LOL
ITzThyZoDiAc 1 month ago 2
Wow amazing set. Amazing players, too bad Mango didn't take it...
Basvdzijden 1 month ago
6:05 dat Bomb O.O
MaskedKirby 1 month ago