Hi Marc, Love your show. but I found metal studs behind my drywall at my new warehouse. I would love to make a rack exactly like yours. Is there any change I have to make or 4 3/4 spax screws still work as you recommended here? Thanks.
@cultech To be honest, I am not sure. I have never really worked with metal studs before so I don't know what you need to do to make sure you have full structural integrity. Maybe someone with general construction experience will chime in.
Cool project, it would be nice if you make a video in about 6 months of any problems or suggest improvements to your rack or shop setup over time if you find something was overlooked.
:) it's funny watching a cabinet maker doing rough carpentry... there's a few pointers I could give you to make things more efficient (don't rely on your studs to be plum so don't use a level, use your stud finder at the top and bottom then snap a chalk like to mark one edge, also never rely on your tape to find studs. always a stud finder to find the edges; make a mark as soon as you hear the beep, then you can go 3/4'' in for center). cheers
Fantastic, Marc! Thanks for taking the time to document this in video format.
I suppose you could bolts in place of the screws that attach the brackets to the studs? That might create a 'modular' system and may even make it a little easier to fit the brackets (pre-drilling the studs before fixing them to the wall studs).
Look forward to seeing the rest of your new-old workshop progress.
Luthiers always need more wood racks! I cut and dry my own stock before milling. Musical instrument wood can hang in a shop for a whole generation before being put to use so you can imagine the usefullnes of wall racks!
Great vid! I know what u mean about 2x4's I go to a place that gets exellent 2x4's and I know a place nearby that sells 2x4's at regular price but they are economy grade. What are economy grade 2x4's used for anymore pallets and fire wood? lol Great idea thanks! I know what u mean bud I work 1130-8pm and I rarly have time to work in my shop. and wham Warped boards..
If you get a chance can you build one of those folding tv trays, that would be great if you do because I cant seem to find any D.I.Y videos for it. Im more of a visual learner as of watching a project be done step by step rather then have to read the step by step instructions. Thank you. XD
@TheWoodWhisperer yes and change your name too. like metal speaker or something. keep the good work iam really learning with you. show how to veneer large pieces. i dont know if veneer its the right word
I have built a number of these racks over the years and I have one suggestion. cover the horizontal supports with some plywood or OSB to make them into shelves. I notice that you have some shorter boards that cover 2 supports if you accidentally move them the ends will come off the support and onto the floor or yourself. (ask how I know). It also allows you to store a number of short pieces. It looks great
Having done a search I find that B&Q, the UK's equivalent to your Home Depot (I think) sell 'quality' birch ply of the grade you demonstrate for £54 per 8 x 4 sheet, that's $87 US. A less expensive option would be spruce ply. Any good?
@hoold90 The Spruce ply from B and Q would be fine. Its a bit rough and will need a good sand, but at half the price of the birch ply, thats not a big issue. The Birch ply is great for making furniture for around the house though :)
Marc, I love your vids dude always informational and entertaining, I think with norm Abrams on the way out of his tv gig u gotta get a piece of that pie. Iv seen some woodworking shows recently that put me to sleep. Keep up the good work
@BMXNyQuisT Thanks man. I do have my piece of the pie right here on the internet. :) Honestly, TV is a tough place and I bet a watered down version of my stuff on TV would probably put you to sleep too. :)
Most stud finders actually work by finding each edge separately. Start by moving the stud finder one direction and when it lights up stop and mark a line. Then go to the opposite side of your line about 3 to 4 inches away and work towards your line to find the exact edge by stopping when it lights up again. You can now determine the exact middle. If your having trouble with your stud finder use a stud finding magnet set to locate the screws. These work well. Never trust anything to be on center.
@deleetmeeh I know mine definitely gives you a the stud center, as well as the start and stop points. Its a standard unit from Home Depot and nothing special. From my experience with it, its pretty darn accurate.
@TheWoodWhisperer It may seem like yours is giving you the center but its really not. Most finders have a small lag time before the light goes off coupled with the fact your sliding it across the wall at about mach 5. That is why your supposed slide it slowly than back up after the light goes off to find the edge. I personally have never seen a finder that finds the center. If they did how would they ever discriminate if you came to a spot in the wall where several studs are stacked up?
@Mopardude Well, I can't say for sure it gives me dead center since I can't actually see the stud. But I can tell you that it dependably gives me the start, stop, and center points. The display has a meter that slowly builds until it reaches center. That's when the light goes on, then the meter begins to drop down again as you move off the stud.
And after using it a few hundred times I have yet to miss a stud. So as far as I'm concerned, this little unit is pretty darn accurate.
Marc, you could place a single locking swivel caster and a standard swivel caster to "lock" into place without extra hardware to do so as you mentioned. I do have one question though, I was always taught for sheet goods, to never stand them either their ends or sides/edges due to warping, that one should always lay them flat? Have you encountered such things as warping to your sheet goods by standing them up like that? AZ has a much lower humidity range than most states, here, it's very high.
@TsmnnDvl5 While our humidity is low, the plywood that gets shipped here has a moisture content that's quite high. So we tend to see even more issues with plywood than most areas. In the idea world, yes, we would store sheetgoods flat. But even with my generous amount of space, devoting a 4' x 8' space for plywood storage just isn't practical. So vertical storage is the only option. The best defense against warping is buying good quality. And so far I haven't been disappointed.
Very Cool video Marc, Here I thought I was the only one who really knew how to calibrate a Stud-sensor. 8-) I have needed a rack like this for a few years but wasn't just sure how to construct it. Well you have just gave me the knowlege to build one, thank you allot!
@therealandycook I am actually considering adding one of those spring loaded gate casters. Should help take off a few pounds and give a little extra support.
@TheWoodWhisperer might be worth a try, that might help it from rolling outwards aswell, tho im not sure if that was an issue once its loaded up with stock.
looks great!
saucychurch23 1 month ago
What is the purpose of the angle cut on the plywood? Just looks?
paullie6719 1 month ago
@paullie6719 it just gives you a little more clearance vertically on each shelf.
TheWoodWhisperer 1 month ago
Hi Marc, Love your show. but I found metal studs behind my drywall at my new warehouse. I would love to make a rack exactly like yours. Is there any change I have to make or 4 3/4 spax screws still work as you recommended here? Thanks.
cultech 4 months ago
@cultech To be honest, I am not sure. I have never really worked with metal studs before so I don't know what you need to do to make sure you have full structural integrity. Maybe someone with general construction experience will chime in.
TheWoodWhisperer 4 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer No problem. Thank you for your reply though. In that case I'll just try and let you know.
cultech 4 months ago
i like you shirt!
AlonMln 4 months ago in playlist Videos from TheWoodWhisperer
whats the music when you put up the long supports? And whats the point in the tapper?
Pedrofreestyle97 6 months ago
@Pedrofreestyle97 its all just royalty-free stuff from Apple.
TheWoodWhisperer 6 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer thanks and what the point in the tapper on the shelves?
Pedrofreestyle97 6 months ago
@Pedrofreestyle97 makes them lighter and provides more room on each shelf.
TheWoodWhisperer 6 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer oh okay thanks!!:D
Pedrofreestyle97 6 months ago
Whats the difference between a impact driver and a cordless drill/ screwdriver?:D
Pedrofreestyle97 6 months ago
@Pedrofreestyle97 I can't post links here but if you go to my website and search for impact driver, you'll find an article I wrote on the topic.
TheWoodWhisperer 6 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer thanks very much!!
Pedrofreestyle97 6 months ago
Cool project, it would be nice if you make a video in about 6 months of any problems or suggest improvements to your rack or shop setup over time if you find something was overlooked.
hamza3608 8 months ago
:) it's funny watching a cabinet maker doing rough carpentry... there's a few pointers I could give you to make things more efficient (don't rely on your studs to be plum so don't use a level, use your stud finder at the top and bottom then snap a chalk like to mark one edge, also never rely on your tape to find studs. always a stud finder to find the edges; make a mark as soon as you hear the beep, then you can go 3/4'' in for center). cheers
bodolax 9 months ago
@bodolax you think that's funny, you should watch a carpenter make cabinets! ;) Thanks for the tips though.
TheWoodWhisperer 9 months ago
Great Project! But two Points.
1 Instead of the horizontal piece, why not just run the verticals straight to the floor?
2 Casters that big should always be trough bolted. But you can always do that when they fall off. lol
frogsoda 9 months ago
Fantastic, Marc! Thanks for taking the time to document this in video format.
I suppose you could bolts in place of the screws that attach the brackets to the studs? That might create a 'modular' system and may even make it a little easier to fit the brackets (pre-drilling the studs before fixing them to the wall studs).
Look forward to seeing the rest of your new-old workshop progress.
OllyPJ 10 months ago
I have that exact impact driver. Works very well.
TheMonke22 10 months ago
Luthiers always need more wood racks! I cut and dry my own stock before milling. Musical instrument wood can hang in a shop for a whole generation before being put to use so you can imagine the usefullnes of wall racks!
classicalguitarrocks 10 months ago
What 3D software did you use
Ismlor 10 months ago
@Ismlor SketchUp
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
very usefull
YIDARMYVIDS 10 months ago
Great vid! I know what u mean about 2x4's I go to a place that gets exellent 2x4's and I know a place nearby that sells 2x4's at regular price but they are economy grade. What are economy grade 2x4's used for anymore pallets and fire wood? lol Great idea thanks! I know what u mean bud I work 1130-8pm and I rarly have time to work in my shop. and wham Warped boards..
fenderpaman16 10 months ago
o i love what u do my dad dose the same thing and i make something for myself the one wood i love is charry
jordanbeach89 10 months ago
i see u use Phillips screws where i live we never use those lol we use Robertson
jordanbeach89 10 months ago
@jordanbeach89 Actually i used Robertson screws for the vast majority of this project.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
Thank you, I see where, that could help me out
thewooforfun 10 months ago
It's never a dull moment to check up your channel! Always very informative and funny! Love the RHCP shirt too btw!
Thanks! /Nic.
findingusernamesux11 10 months ago
nice rack
WoodDustNElbowGrease 10 months ago
If you get a chance can you build one of those folding tv trays, that would be great if you do because I cant seem to find any D.I.Y videos for it. Im more of a visual learner as of watching a project be done step by step rather then have to read the step by step instructions. Thank you. XD
DaVinviMan 10 months ago
weld some metal angles and done. wood is nice but metal does better.
CapApollo 10 months ago
@CapApollo OK but then I'd need to change the name of the show. :)
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago 13
@TheWoodWhisperer yes and change your name too. like metal speaker or something. keep the good work iam really learning with you. show how to veneer large pieces. i dont know if veneer its the right word
CapApollo 10 months ago
Kewl!
jhi1947 10 months ago
You could fix your little problem there with the swinging holder for sheet material with a magnet.
Hooks are great, but i guess unhooking would be a bit inconvenient over time.
Xar0mir 10 months ago
I have built a number of these racks over the years and I have one suggestion. cover the horizontal supports with some plywood or OSB to make them into shelves. I notice that you have some shorter boards that cover 2 supports if you accidentally move them the ends will come off the support and onto the floor or yourself. (ask how I know). It also allows you to store a number of short pieces. It looks great
jwsvandr 10 months ago
Disclaimer: I know nothing about plywood sheets.
Having done a search I find that B&Q, the UK's equivalent to your Home Depot (I think) sell 'quality' birch ply of the grade you demonstrate for £54 per 8 x 4 sheet, that's $87 US. A less expensive option would be spruce ply. Any good?
hoold90 10 months ago
@hoold90 bottom line is anything that is flat, stays flat, and is fairly inexpensive is fair game.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer I agree!
woodentoolcompany 10 months ago
@hoold90 The Spruce ply from B and Q would be fine. Its a bit rough and will need a good sand, but at half the price of the birch ply, thats not a big issue. The Birch ply is great for making furniture for around the house though :)
Ruprect99 10 months ago
nice rack
95jamesg 10 months ago 6
@95jamesg Ya I have to agree, he really does have a nice rack.
startreking2007 3 months ago
Very cool!
jabp03 10 months ago
Marc, I love your vids dude always informational and entertaining, I think with norm Abrams on the way out of his tv gig u gotta get a piece of that pie. Iv seen some woodworking shows recently that put me to sleep. Keep up the good work
Tom.
BMXNyQuisT 10 months ago
@BMXNyQuisT Thanks man. I do have my piece of the pie right here on the internet. :) Honestly, TV is a tough place and I bet a watered down version of my stuff on TV would probably put you to sleep too. :)
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
$40 - $50 per sheet for a rack is a little out there. 1/2" CDX would work for for $20 per sheet.
ArtisanConstruction 10 months ago
Most stud finders actually work by finding each edge separately. Start by moving the stud finder one direction and when it lights up stop and mark a line. Then go to the opposite side of your line about 3 to 4 inches away and work towards your line to find the exact edge by stopping when it lights up again. You can now determine the exact middle. If your having trouble with your stud finder use a stud finding magnet set to locate the screws. These work well. Never trust anything to be on center.
deleetmeeh 10 months ago
@deleetmeeh I know mine definitely gives you a the stud center, as well as the start and stop points. Its a standard unit from Home Depot and nothing special. From my experience with it, its pretty darn accurate.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer It may seem like yours is giving you the center but its really not. Most finders have a small lag time before the light goes off coupled with the fact your sliding it across the wall at about mach 5. That is why your supposed slide it slowly than back up after the light goes off to find the edge. I personally have never seen a finder that finds the center. If they did how would they ever discriminate if you came to a spot in the wall where several studs are stacked up?
Mopardude 10 months ago
@Mopardude Well, I can't say for sure it gives me dead center since I can't actually see the stud. But I can tell you that it dependably gives me the start, stop, and center points. The display has a meter that slowly builds until it reaches center. That's when the light goes on, then the meter begins to drop down again as you move off the stud.
And after using it a few hundred times I have yet to miss a stud. So as far as I'm concerned, this little unit is pretty darn accurate.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
Marc, you could place a single locking swivel caster and a standard swivel caster to "lock" into place without extra hardware to do so as you mentioned. I do have one question though, I was always taught for sheet goods, to never stand them either their ends or sides/edges due to warping, that one should always lay them flat? Have you encountered such things as warping to your sheet goods by standing them up like that? AZ has a much lower humidity range than most states, here, it's very high.
TsmnnDvl5 10 months ago
@TsmnnDvl5 While our humidity is low, the plywood that gets shipped here has a moisture content that's quite high. So we tend to see even more issues with plywood than most areas. In the idea world, yes, we would store sheetgoods flat. But even with my generous amount of space, devoting a 4' x 8' space for plywood storage just isn't practical. So vertical storage is the only option. The best defense against warping is buying good quality. And so far I haven't been disappointed.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
I thought everything in Arizona was kiln dried, even the residents.
oceannavagator 10 months ago 2
@oceannavagator
Good one.
deezynar 10 months ago
Very Cool video Marc, Here I thought I was the only one who really knew how to calibrate a Stud-sensor. 8-) I have needed a rack like this for a few years but wasn't just sure how to construct it. Well you have just gave me the knowlege to build one, thank you allot!
always enjoy your videos, keep them comming.
5*****
dav1099 10 months ago
dont forget the flame paint pattern on your plywood cart
Ditre 10 months ago
Thank you so much for sharing!
Basjuhdeuil 10 months ago
Why not put castors on the otherside?
benny5825 10 months ago
and if I have brick wall?
Bojanawwr 10 months ago
@Bojanawwr masonry anchors or special screws designed for masonry. But do your research to make sure it can support the weight.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
Marc, thanks again for sharing your expertise. You are talented, generous, and a valuable resource to woodworkers worldwide.
hochbob 10 months ago
id want to add a third caster at the the front of the hinge side to keep it from twisiting. 12$ to put my mind at rest :P
therealandycook 10 months ago
@therealandycook I am actually considering adding one of those spring loaded gate casters. Should help take off a few pounds and give a little extra support.
TheWoodWhisperer 10 months ago
@TheWoodWhisperer might be worth a try, that might help it from rolling outwards aswell, tho im not sure if that was an issue once its loaded up with stock.
therealandycook 10 months ago
Marc,
Thanks again for sharing your expertise. You talented, generous, and a real friend to woodworkers worldwide.
hochbob 10 months ago
How about cabinet catches to keep the cart from swinging out?
94Virago 10 months ago
Excellent job, Mark. I like that you don't skimp on the hardware. Functional and aesthetically pleasing. Later Stud!
BradburyGuy 10 months ago
Now you need to build a wooden ladder to get to the top rack.
These shop organization jobs are fukin endless.
It gets worse when you purchase a new major tool and try to just fit it in.
The worst: it always gets expensive. The best: it's always fun.
cyberyiyo 10 months ago
It's exactly what I needed.
pulsodigital 10 months ago