the lad might have been treated better if he's spoken to the ticket collector in a polite way instead of swearing at him all the time.typicasl of todays youth,no respect and no fucking manners. it was not assault as the big man did what was necessary to get the twat off the train.he pushed him off the tyrain and then when he tried to force himself back on,he shoved him again. there are too many cunts travelling around on trains anyway,spoiling everyone elses enjoyment.they should all get beat up
Well done big man. People have gone too soft. It's easy to judge, the big man got a round of applause from the passengers who witnessed it all, the big man is a hero
Its assault any way you flip it, regardless of whether the guy being thrown off the train was in the wrong for not having a ticket. National Rail should employ SIA door supervisors to do this sort of thing, they make enough fucking money a year out of Joe public to afford it. Bus and train drivers are not allowed to throw passengers off with force so why should a member of the public be allowed to? Double standards.
Ticket collectors are jobsworth pricks,i had one try to throw me off when i couldnt collect my ticket id bought off the internet because the machines were down even though i had the receipt on my phone. As for fatty id of smacked him if he manhandled me like that
When told by an official to leave the train he should have done it. Big man was a lot calmer than i would have been. The kid should learn some manners.
All u people hating on the big man are forgetting most kids these days are little shits, he hadn't paid for his ticket and was trying to bully his way into staying on the train, I'm the same size as the kid and work security, I wouldnt have been as gentle as the big man
Big man was a complete bully boot thug and if it was someone his size/age I bet the coward would have stayed seated... He should be ashamed of himself ... As should his family be ashamed if his behaviour
doin as asked then bollocks, I'd want the prick off the train so we could get
movin. Fair play to the big man. I know a load of hippie pacifist do gooders will moan about that but to be honest I've never listened to you idiots before, and I ain't about to start.....
The ticket collector is a total jobsworth, and should have just called the police. The fat arse was way over the top throwing the kid to the ground. Had it been someone of a similar size I bet he would of kept his fat arse right where it was.
The PF message is that it's Ok to beat plpe up who dont have a ticket....wonder if the big man would have been as big if the teen was also a big man...or is it OK to beat up on teens...Violent thug... The conductor should have got the transport cops who would have dealt with the situation instead of the lad being chucked on his face onto the platform...
his job is to collect the tickets, if the tickets are not there the rules are to contact the transport police and be met at the next stop where they will then deal with the person appropriately
Are they not meant to take your details and make you sign a form saying you are traveling without a ticket... Happened to me a few years ago when my card never worked I just had to pay it later... no fuss.. problem solved...
Should have been taken 2his destination pure guy have to walk if skint. So what happens if something happens to him walking home It wasn't end of the world a fare dodge
It was fantastic to see that disrespectful fare dodger humiliated, well done conductor and big man. Bad people get away with too much in this world, not that time.
@swatty2 He was a swearing 19 year old who may or may not have tried to dodge a train fare. I'm not sure how that equates a "bad person", although he may or may not be one -- I do not know him. However, seeing a large man throw a teenager down to the pavement is one of the most repugnant acts of testosterone-fueled ego I have witnessed; the person involved could have stuck his head and died. That the man wasn't jailed for assault is a sad state of affairs.
the thing is if he didnt pay his fair he could sue the big fella for laying his hands on him,simple as that,its assault if you like it or not,cunt shoulda paid his ticket end of
Why didn't the conductor say--- fine ye wee fanny, sit your bam arse right there as long as ye fancy, and I'll have the boys in blue waitin on ye end o line with truncheons and big crackin smiles.
IMHO the conductor should have recognized the presence of the children, and when the wee rocket proved insubordinate, about turn, shut the doors and call the polis. I'm willing to bet his training manual advises against arguing with rockets and risking passenger safety.
Hello, this is CAUSE, and this is CONSEQUENCE. In the UK CAUSE and CONSEQUENCE don't get to spend as much time together as we'd like. That's why young people think that they can get away with anything (and often do!).
Please citizens, remeber that where there is CAUSE, there is CONSEQUENCE.
I pay extra for the better seating in first class because of my legs. It annoys me when little shits pay nothing and just walk in and sit down. I always ask the conductor to check and 9 out of ten times they dont have a fc ticket and probably three of those nine have no ticket at all. Good on him for booting him.
my God were i come from you just dont get involved with some one elses grief it usualy turnes out counter productive.If british or scottish rail want to employ pensioners to check the tickets its not up to joe public to stick their noses in.I think this pollock man needs to be intoxicated make a mistake and meet some one as big as him. He is clearly a fat bully boy he wouldnt last 10mins in belfast.
He works for BlackRock in Edinburgh. If they sack him, everyone should petition to leave this bank. Move mortgages whatever it takes. The public should stand up for this
This footage should never have been released until it was used in court as evidence if indeed any action was to be taken, and then Mr Hems should have asked permission to show it then people can argue to their hearts content. Now all we have got is trial by media and this ridiculous big brother culture. You cannot do anything these days without it being everyone else's business. Mobile phones are a curse on humanity and this proves it.
The conductor was in the wrong here for delaying his train, and every train behind his, for nothing more than a ticket irregularity. He will be in big trouble with his company. If Big man hadn't thrown the scroat off the train, how long would the train have been delayed before the conductor had to back down ?
regardless of whether he bought a ticket or not the big man and the ticket inspector both broke the law as the only person who could legally and physically put him off the train was the police i hate ticket dodgers as much as the next man but two wrongs dont make it right and if i was the ticket dodger in this case not only would take legal procedings against the idiot who threw me from the train the idiot filming me would get done for filming me and putting on here without my permission
im not defending him at all he was very much in the wrong but neither the ticket inspector or the guy who assaulted this guy were in the right either I have never dodged paying for anything in my life and wouldnt try to either call the police is my answer this situation could have got way out of hand and someone probably someone innocent on that train could have got hurt , could easily been solved had he called police meet the train at the next stop. problem solved justice done
@AngelaCarton I think it's clear that the person travelling without a ticket was wrong to do so. But more important is how the situation was handled. Nothing about what happened in this video was professional or efficient. It was dangerous and impulsive.
If it was known that the kid had no ticket, then why not just call the police and tell them to be at the next stop? Wouldn't that be better than struggling in a bus and risking the safety of all the people involved or nearby?
the ticket inspector should have told him about the fine for fare dodging it was advertised before and is also or was advertised on buses and can be as little as £400.00. now the big man will be charged i hope the train company pays any cost incured and fines the big man might have to pay.
Go Big Man! Kids need to be taught the rules and if his clearly inept parents aren't willing to teach him then at least there are others who will. This was not assault. The kid had a choice: get off the train and apologise OR stay and get kicked off.
Fuck that kid. Its a shame he didn't get tossed from the bus, whats worst is his dad called for legal action instead of beating some sense into his own dip shit kid...
If your not going to take responsibility for your own kid acting a fool, don't sue and press charges on others who go out of their way to do it for you.
@Lytton333 It's a sickening thing to do, given we are already on our way to living in Orwell's 1984, without our fellow men/women making things worse.
@electricoskies That doesn't make any sense, according to my philosophy two wrongs don't make a right!! Both the big guy and the kid did wrong, hence the kids got as much right to fare dodge as the other guy has of physically removing him from the train. The train was at a station the conductor should have notified authorities, simple as...
the ticket dodger got what he deserved , the guy who kicked him off , is now getting charged for doing what is a civil duty that all us have the right to do , he was helping an elderly worker that would have probably wasted valuable police time and resources when all it took was a one or two civilians two remove pathetic yobs that refused to obey rules that are there to make the country's rail run correctly and on time , they held the train up and stopped people getting back to their families.
the lad could of had a genuine reason either illness or fear but some over weight twat didnt think of that be different if he was asian all i can say is you dick
The kid had no right to travel without a ticket but the big guy had no right to throw him off the train , that was a matter for the authorities, there is such a thing as transport police. As for the people pointing out the fact n getting abuse shows ur mentality, the kid has much right to travel without a ticket as the big guy had of throwing him off the train, particularly in the manner he did.
The comments on here in defense of a bully are a symptom of what is wrong with the world. The law is interpreted in whatever way it suits the perverse. By extension it is OK to invade another country if you don't like them and you have better offensive systems..So to be fair if China decides to do the same what defense do these people have? All moral authority out of the window.
Your an idiot if you agree with the mans actions, people like you drag society down. Even if the lad had said he never bought a ticket and still wouldnt get of the train it doesn't give the man the right to assault the lad. The ticket inspector instigated the aggresion by not following procedure and not even he as the right to physicaly throw the lad of the train. The man has to be convicted for the assault. Its the law like it or not.
@nl247365 He didn't assault him, you wet fart, he put him off the train where he belonged. And stop blaming the ticket inspector, blame the chav trying to travel without a ticket - he's the one in the wrong, despite your determination to make him out to be some kind of innocent victim. (Read up about what the chav boasted on his own Facebook account, that he was "travelling without a ticket").
People like you have got to stop defending crooks.
@AlexisCapri he did assault him thats how the fud has been charged, and the clearly see the boy is no chav look at him he is a wee bawbag student. there wis no need for the way that fat bullying c**t reacted it wis fuck awl tae dae wae him he took it too far. fair enough the wee guy needs a kick up the arse but it should of been handled by the police.
@weemaig what kind of wet attitude is that? The big man was applauded by the other passengers. And you're here making out he's some kind of bad guy. I think the real reason people like you type this shite is because YOU try and travel without tickets yourself.
@Gixxi7 Go defend criminals somewhere else. It's absolutel morons like you that CAUSE crime because you look for a way to apologise for it wherever it happens. Fucking moron.
@LisaPPCole I can, and I could turn your question on his head and ask exactly the same to you. I'm not only defending Sam Main, I'm defending your right also not to be assaulted in this manner. How would you feel if you went to your local corner shop, had a little dispute over being short-changed and then BOOM, some stranger wades over, grabs you and throws you onto the pavement?
@Gixxi7 What absolute cack you type, seriously. You're the kind of person that thinks a mugger shouldn't be rugby tackled and has a right to carry out his work without fear of injury. Stop blaming anybody here except the person in the wrong - the chav without a ticket.
The student paid for his tickets you stupid puke. If you didn't have shit for brains you'd know that the fat asshole that shoved him off the train deserves to be prosecuted for assault. You'd also know that Alan Fucktard Pollock would have kept his lard ass in his seat if the student had been a 210 lb member of the university wrestling team. On the planet you're from a fare dodger would refuse to get off the train and sit tight til the cops arrived to arrest him. You sad idiot.
@Eldomina22 Hes right. Kid should have been met at the next station by the police. Really simple. Had the conductor not been such a fucking jobsworth none of this would have happened. Fatty is a fucking bully and deserves to be prosecuted, was no need for him to get involved, he deserves to be prosecuted. Conductor should be sacked too as hes fucking inept.
I'm going mate hahaha. Damn right you are! What a pleb. Nice to see this dude help out on a possible breach of the peace and help the conductor along with his lawful duties as he answered yes when asked 'do you want him off the train?'.
Just the sort of disrespectful kid that thinks he can do anything and no-one can touch him. Tough luck kid, you finally met someone not prepared to put up with your s**t. Well done that man, its what everyone should have done, they were all thinking about it and recognised it was the right thing to do by applause he got. Of course its not assault, just a necessary measured and considered response to a gobby thug. The trouble was nipped in the bud. Well done that man
All this guy should have to face is a friendly ticking off from a bobby using his common sense, and telling the big man to be a bit more careful in future. If the CPS/ Procurator Fiscal want to make an exmple of the big fellow, he should elect trial by jury.
Intresting, If the little chap has been volient rather than just mouthy then yes I'd back the big man :)
He wasn't and there was no call for that level of force. As a trained fighter / instructor even if someone is volient you have to consider the level of force you use. It isn't hard and I'm not saying the law is always right but in my view everyone knows right from wrong. Finally the should be retired ticket inspector, shouldn't have risen to it and followed procedure
@flaminjack Nope whats wrong the the UK is an economic depression, that has fuck all to do with me, but it is another problem we can lay at the feet of your fat banker friend on the train. Lack of common sense or justice? I totally agree, just not on my part. If common sense or justice were involved the conductor would have phoned ahead for the police, like he is supposed to do. Those showing a real lack of the aforementioned attributes are those of you applauding this disgrace.
Furthermore, I would have liked to see the 'big man' use this force on a group of drunken football fans. Would he have been so brave and big then? I highly doubt it. He used excessive force on a kid that was half the size of him. He deserves to be charged with assault. The kid should be fined. The ticket conductor should be suspended for neglecting to follow procedure. Boom. All sorted.
@mgill87 agree, I worked on the trains many moons ago, a civilian throwing a man off a train is assault, the conductor could easily ask 'you need to buy another ticket' he didnt give the option, also he could tell the train driver to wait and call the trnsport police which arrive in around 10 minutes and let the law deal with it. Throwing a man head first onto concrete is barbaric! . Besides many poeple dont know the full story. I mean i got on a train with the wrong ticket a few times.
Some of you clearly have the wrong idea about how situations such as this should be dealt with. The ticket conductor has a procedure to follow when people do not have valid tickets. Yes, the boy was abusive and foul-mouthed and deserves punishment. It involves a quick call to the British transport police who would pick the boy up at the next station and deal with him in an appropriate fashion. This 'big man' used excessive force and did so purely out of want for admiration, not justice.
@3110SJA yes and u being so clever too, would have realised I could afford the £1 along with the hundreds of other people who agreed what he did was right, oh and as for the poor wee boy he can pay his own fine.
I think we have a very simple situation here. An elderly ticket inspector repeatedly asking a fare-dodger to leave. His refusal. A passenger 'assisting' the ticket inspector who then absolutely refuses re-entry, thereby reaffirming the fact his intention was to remove the passenger. And the goodwill and support of the passengers for the action including another removing FD's luggage. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope fare dodger learns a lesson.
I was rite all along!! The BIG MAN was a criminal for his conduct for assaulting wee man!! The investment wanker from Stirling has been charged with assault!!! Justice WILL BE SERVED!
That wee nyaff deserves everything he gets. I for one will donate to the big mans fine. And bawbags dad seems like an a-hole and I would quite willingly give him some parenting lessons.
I question the mind state of anyone who condones this man. Through his own actions has proved himself to be aggressive. He assaulted the lad and the law is there to protect us from people like him, he had no right or justification. Had the lad shown physical aggression then reasonable force is warranted, however as he never all it comes down to is one mans anger getting the better of him. Nobody on that train except the lad knew the truth, the ticket man was in the wrong for argueing.
Then you allow chaos and no one is safe. That is why we have a police force, paid for by us all apart from this investment banker, who goes out of his way to pay no tax at all, if possible. See Goldman Sachs - let off £20m - Vodafone - let off £6bn. And this guy beating up a poor student, swearing or not. I think you need to get your priorities straight.
i would've just punched that cheeky cunt and dragged his ass out, Big man used an absolute perfect amount of force, the cunt had been asked several times, even told he could pay there and then, Big Man even apologises to a bystander for brushing her shoulder as he kicks the stupid twat off the bus
Everyone who is lambasting the 'Big Man' for helping the ticket inspector note this. If this were in England or Wales (my knowledge of Scottish law is not so good), the police would be using the same power to remove the oik as the BM. Common Law. Its there for all to use. Police are merely the civilians paid to devote their full time attention to it. The BM didn't go overboard, wasn't excessively rude and used reasonable force. I - for one - salute him.
@Ego2Big4Helmet I fear for a society where members of the public are afraid to intervene: to assist an elderly conductor; to prevent law abiding people from having their journeys delayed; to eject a public nuisance. God help us if we have to rely on the Police to diffuse every situation. They won't, and as for Police Community Support Officers.....
@Idler1963 I'm all for intervention, and in total agreement with you on PCSO's, but any intervention should be proportionate to the threat, someone shouting abuse on a train is a nuisance, and should be removed, but in the proper manner, and by people with the proper authority, being thrown to the floor is not an appropriate level of response for the situation, The elderly conductor exacerbated and inflamed the situation, something he had been trained not to do,
Rotund man in a stripey jumper should get a sentence involving some form of training, it might prevent him going off the rails, and getting ideas above his station, 3 months would be about fare, in fact it would be just the ticket for conducting himself in such a poor manner.
The brat deserved everything he got and some. He should've been given a nightmare experience right there on the platform. Pay attention all you mouthy teens out there, if you start messing with adults you'll be treated like one, its as simple as that!
He could have got the wrong ticket. Or, as is more likely, he bought a cheaper ticket, hoping that there would a) be no conductor on the train or b) that the conductor wouldn't get to him before he got off. This is par for the course on Scotrail trains and has been for many, many years. Then, when he's caught, he acts obstreperously and is willing to hold up an entire train. Also, in reply to some commentators here, 'Scotch' is a drink. It is neither a language nor a nationality.
That behaviour is disgusting, anyone who condones the way in which a grown man attacks a 19 year old student over a train ticket is not better than that man. The correct procedures should have been carried out to remove the young boy off of the train. Incase no one noticed there was young children on that train and that is the example that is set. The situation could have been a lot worse - more people could have got hurt. "Big man" ceased an opportunity to make himself feel big.
@DARR3N07 Absolutely right on the money, the conductor should have requested the lad leave, and if/when hi didn't comply the conductor should have requested the assistance of the police, not make a huge drama out of a minor incident, the so called "big man" set an extremely poor example to any children on the train, physically throwing a young man to the floor is NOT reasonable, nor is it an appropriate response, I hope they throw the book at him, he might then think before he acts.
@DARR3N07 Does being 19 and a student mean you get on the train for free and can act as if you are the injured party when caught & think that because the conductor is elderly there'll be no consequences. What sort of example is that to set to kids: do what you want, if your caught make a scene and people will be too embarrassed to confront you? The "big man" intervening showed he was prepared to stand up for what's right. It's called social responsability & there should be more of it.
@weeneeps The lad had bought 2 tickets, even paying a higher price for one, recognising that his student railcard discount wasn't valid for 1 of the journeys but had been given the wrong tickets by rail staff, Big Man intervening showed him to be a bully, picking on a young lad, thats not socially responsible at all, its bullying, plain and simple, and now he should pay the price, he overreacted, not a great example to set for anyone, let alone children.
@Ego2Big4Helmet I once got stuck on a train inadvertantly when helping a friend on with their luggage & it departed B4 I could get off. I did not swear or get agitated when asked for a ticket just explained the situation. I received a letter to get me back home free. His actions are not consistent with someone who was the victim of a mistake which was only mentioned later after being charged. Bullying is habitual and does not apply to a one off application of force.
@Ego2Big4Helmet You're wrong, he did NOT buy two single tickets as he claimed, that was just a weak excuse he made later. As someone else said, he boasted on his own Facebook account that he didn't have a ticket, he just miraculously changed his mind when this video became popular.
He's now been charged with assault and so he should be. If the student had the wrong ticket, let the train continue and let them deal with it at his destination, instead of allowing vigilante law to prevail and this bully to manhandle him. He has no right, otherwise we are all at risk.
@1815brian Vigilantes seek to punish people who they feel have escaped the law. In this case the "big man" was not punishing him but enforcing the "law" in the form of the conductor's insistance the fare dodger leave. This could come under the provision of a citizen's arrest which allows reasonable force (which is of course a subjective term).
@weeneeps The actions of the "Big Man" bore absolutely no similarity, (in either a practical or legal sense) to a citizens arrest, to arrest is to detain, to seize, to capture, in all instances until such time as an officer of the law attends, the "Big Man", did not perform a citizens arrest, he ejected a young lad from a train, assaulting him in the process, something even a police officer can be charged with, "Big Man" has been charged, indicating that there is at least a case to answer.
@Ego2Big4Helmet Being charged and being prosecuted are entirely not the same. I've been charged with assault before after I was attacked by an idiot with a bottle. The police arrived & saw me defending myself & were obliged to charge me since they saw me striking him. The procurator fiscal issued me a letter similar to what I imagine BM will get, with a warning but saying no further action will be taken. Unless the media attention makes them take it more seriously than normal.
Stop Press: Alan Pollock was discovered earlier this evening drinking the acid out of car batteries, he's been taken to Linlithgow station and further charged.
Fair play would be to take fat boy on the train, tie his hands and legs together, let abusive lad push him off the train onto his fat face. Of course the event would be put on video and everyone who watched would be charged a penny. The money raised would go to raise money for treating kids that have been bullied by a fat boy.
I have the first viewing ticket. would even pay 10p myself to see it.
Someone somewhere had some common sense by letting it go rather than always going by the book which is just what is wrong with this country
TheMadmalky 4 days ago
I didn't even now they were speaking English the first time I heard this
TheREALCrazyJewBoy 3 weeks ago
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lol im 20... ppl like this prick give most of us a bad name..
What a prick.
Well done big man, well done!
Whoami691 3 weeks ago
lol im 20... ppl like this prick give most of us a bad name..
What a prick.
Whoami691 3 weeks ago
the lad might have been treated better if he's spoken to the ticket collector in a polite way instead of swearing at him all the time.typicasl of todays youth,no respect and no fucking manners. it was not assault as the big man did what was necessary to get the twat off the train.he pushed him off the tyrain and then when he tried to force himself back on,he shoved him again. there are too many cunts travelling around on trains anyway,spoiling everyone elses enjoyment.they should all get beat up
in2u2b 3 weeks ago
We need more people like the big man its great to see someone standing up for what is right.
gerrykea 3 weeks ago
well done big man
TheGoodcats1 3 weeks ago
Haha, the "big man"... "is there a problem here ?" does anyone remember chewing the fat haha
LadyGaGaOfficialCha1 3 weeks ago
The guy who got the lil prick off the train should get an award.
wheelblack35 3 weeks ago
You can take my train seat, but you'll never take... MY FREEEEDDOOOOOMMM
theballer04 3 weeks ago
Well done big man. People have gone too soft. It's easy to judge, the big man got a round of applause from the passengers who witnessed it all, the big man is a hero
TheHamboy69 3 weeks ago
Its assault any way you flip it, regardless of whether the guy being thrown off the train was in the wrong for not having a ticket. National Rail should employ SIA door supervisors to do this sort of thing, they make enough fucking money a year out of Joe public to afford it. Bus and train drivers are not allowed to throw passengers off with force so why should a member of the public be allowed to? Double standards.
CircleofShit 3 weeks ago
Ticket collectors are jobsworth pricks,i had one try to throw me off when i couldnt collect my ticket id bought off the internet because the machines were down even though i had the receipt on my phone. As for fatty id of smacked him if he manhandled me like that
sankofresh 3 weeks ago
When told by an official to leave the train he should have done it. Big man was a lot calmer than i would have been. The kid should learn some manners.
robertjohnnelson 3 weeks ago
And the CPS / DPP says NO FURTHER ACTION!
pendomotorman 3 weeks ago
All u people hating on the big man are forgetting most kids these days are little shits, he hadn't paid for his ticket and was trying to bully his way into staying on the train, I'm the same size as the kid and work security, I wouldnt have been as gentle as the big man
pandaflop 3 weeks ago
@pandaflop Not most kids, just a very loud minority
Spurs4Premiership 3 weeks ago
@Spurs4Premiership No, most kids (especially in Britain) are little shits.
LadyGaGaOfficialCha1 3 weeks ago
Big man was a complete bully boot thug and if it was someone his size/age I bet the coward would have stayed seated... He should be ashamed of himself ... As should his family be ashamed if his behaviour
denised6 3 weeks ago
Big man wouldn't have been so big If it was someone his size... He is a bully boot thug and should be ashamed if himself the coward!
denised6 3 weeks ago
Fuck me, bunch of hippies on here. If some
motherfucker was making me late by not
doin as asked then bollocks, I'd want the prick off the train so we could get
movin. Fair play to the big man. I know a load of hippie pacifist do gooders will moan about that but to be honest I've never listened to you idiots before, and I ain't about to start.....
roundhouse562 3 weeks ago
Big man, your a twat for doing that.
NilsRattan 3 weeks ago
He he... "Big Man"...
amazingdany 3 weeks ago
the big man is free ! he did something most were afraid to do !
well done big man !
cuffkey2000 3 weeks ago 7
Can't believe people on here sticking up for the fair dodger. Suppose you think it's ok for people to drive with no insurance while others pay theirs
anthbruce1 3 weeks ago 4
@anthbruce1 thats not the same at all you fucking spaz
vandal2008 5 days ago
Prosecution not in public interest
TheMadmalky 3 weeks ago
Best news ever the 'big man' is not to be prosecuted. WELL DONE BIG MAN!!!
findmejak1 3 weeks ago 2
The ticket collector is a total jobsworth, and should have just called the police. The fat arse was way over the top throwing the kid to the ground. Had it been someone of a similar size I bet he would of kept his fat arse right where it was.
stepovic 3 weeks ago
The PF message is that it's Ok to beat plpe up who dont have a ticket....wonder if the big man would have been as big if the teen was also a big man...or is it OK to beat up on teens...Violent thug... The conductor should have got the transport cops who would have dealt with the situation instead of the lad being chucked on his face onto the platform...
selecktabo 3 weeks ago
Case against "big man" is dropped
TheMadmalky 3 weeks ago
his job is to collect the tickets, if the tickets are not there the rules are to contact the transport police and be met at the next stop where they will then deal with the person appropriately
keiracounsell 3 weeks ago
Are they not meant to take your details and make you sign a form saying you are traveling without a ticket... Happened to me a few years ago when my card never worked I just had to pay it later... no fuss.. problem solved...
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Scotrail no ticket!
The big man was wrong... youtube.com/watch?v=7GJCLJdier8
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ShoppingBargains 4 weeks ago
Should have been taken 2his destination pure guy have to walk if skint. So what happens if something happens to him walking home It wasn't end of the world a fare dodge
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GooseMan587 3 weeks ago
It was fantastic to see that disrespectful fare dodger humiliated, well done conductor and big man. Bad people get away with too much in this world, not that time.
swatty2 1 month ago
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@swatty2 Absolutely, let the paedophiles and rapists go, just as long as they catch those damn fare dodgers
GooseMan587 3 weeks ago
@swatty2 He was a swearing 19 year old who may or may not have tried to dodge a train fare. I'm not sure how that equates a "bad person", although he may or may not be one -- I do not know him. However, seeing a large man throw a teenager down to the pavement is one of the most repugnant acts of testosterone-fueled ego I have witnessed; the person involved could have stuck his head and died. That the man wasn't jailed for assault is a sad state of affairs.
nancykitten 3 weeks ago
Ah what a good lad. In my opinion the gobby little shit should've been thrown in a ditch at birth.
shamone10 1 month ago
@ScoobyleeTracy your very quick to say his parents mistreat him ain't ya
AndyPole 1 month ago
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ScoobyLeeTracy 1 month ago
Ok, aside from arguments the kid should have ran down to the next open door.
KsEdave09 2 months ago
the thing is if he didnt pay his fair he could sue the big fella for laying his hands on him,simple as that,its assault if you like it or not,cunt shoulda paid his ticket end of
novaturbkkk 2 months ago
Shouldn't have man-handled the boy like that.Could have got him at the next stop.
Averagejoe644 2 months ago
Why didn't the conductor say--- fine ye wee fanny, sit your bam arse right there as long as ye fancy, and I'll have the boys in blue waitin on ye end o line with truncheons and big crackin smiles.
IMHO the conductor should have recognized the presence of the children, and when the wee rocket proved insubordinate, about turn, shut the doors and call the polis. I'm willing to bet his training manual advises against arguing with rockets and risking passenger safety.
ADonnyKenn 2 months ago 2
Hello, this is CAUSE, and this is CONSEQUENCE. In the UK CAUSE and CONSEQUENCE don't get to spend as much time together as we'd like. That's why young people think that they can get away with anything (and often do!).
Please citizens, remeber that where there is CAUSE, there is CONSEQUENCE.
DevNulZor 2 months ago
It's a good job he threw him out, that kid needs to learn respect! He was swearing like a fool right next to those kids
anickiee 2 months ago
I pay extra for the better seating in first class because of my legs. It annoys me when little shits pay nothing and just walk in and sit down. I always ask the conductor to check and 9 out of ten times they dont have a fc ticket and probably three of those nine have no ticket at all. Good on him for booting him.
Realfoxhawk 2 months ago
my God were i come from you just dont get involved with some one elses grief it usualy turnes out counter productive.If british or scottish rail want to employ pensioners to check the tickets its not up to joe public to stick their noses in.I think this pollock man needs to be intoxicated make a mistake and meet some one as big as him. He is clearly a fat bully boy he wouldnt last 10mins in belfast.
ulsterdavy 2 months ago
The courts will decide who was right, and who was wrong, and that will be that, British Justices,or Scotish werever the case is heard.
Bannels 2 months ago
ah bully boy works for Black Rock, will avoid that company now
hope the waster get a year inside
What a load of Pollocks
smadas12 2 months ago
"Cheers big man"
WrightCharlie93 2 months ago
Chuck Norrris should look at this and learn.
055697 2 months ago
Well done BIG man you got done for assult
b2theaker 2 months ago
He works for BlackRock in Edinburgh. If they sack him, everyone should petition to leave this bank. Move mortgages whatever it takes. The public should stand up for this
benjamintheblue 2 months ago
@benjamintheblue Lol. It's not like HSBC. Besides, hopefully he WILL be sacked as soon as he gets his rightful criminal record.
Gixxi7 2 months ago
This footage should never have been released until it was used in court as evidence if indeed any action was to be taken, and then Mr Hems should have asked permission to show it then people can argue to their hearts content. Now all we have got is trial by media and this ridiculous big brother culture. You cannot do anything these days without it being everyone else's business. Mobile phones are a curse on humanity and this proves it.
TheMadmalky 2 months ago
The conductor was in the wrong here for delaying his train, and every train behind his, for nothing more than a ticket irregularity. He will be in big trouble with his company. If Big man hadn't thrown the scroat off the train, how long would the train have been delayed before the conductor had to back down ?
FeralBeast99 2 months ago
@FeralBeast99 STOP BLAMING THE CONDUCTOR AND BLAME THE REAL CULPRIT, THE CHAV, FOR FUCKS SAKE!!!!
AngelaCarton 2 months ago
regardless of whether he bought a ticket or not the big man and the ticket inspector both broke the law as the only person who could legally and physically put him off the train was the police i hate ticket dodgers as much as the next man but two wrongs dont make it right and if i was the ticket dodger in this case not only would take legal procedings against the idiot who threw me from the train the idiot filming me would get done for filming me and putting on here without my permission
thomashearty 2 months ago
@thomashearty I think the real reason people like you defend this chav is simple and obvious.
It's because you're the type of person that would try and travel without a ticket yourself. Why else would you be defending these people.
AngelaCarton 2 months ago
im not defending him at all he was very much in the wrong but neither the ticket inspector or the guy who assaulted this guy were in the right either I have never dodged paying for anything in my life and wouldnt try to either call the police is my answer this situation could have got way out of hand and someone probably someone innocent on that train could have got hurt , could easily been solved had he called police meet the train at the next stop. problem solved justice done
thomashearty 2 months ago
@AngelaCarton I think it's clear that the person travelling without a ticket was wrong to do so. But more important is how the situation was handled. Nothing about what happened in this video was professional or efficient. It was dangerous and impulsive.
If it was known that the kid had no ticket, then why not just call the police and tell them to be at the next stop? Wouldn't that be better than struggling in a bus and risking the safety of all the people involved or nearby?
nanoday1 1 month ago
the ticket inspector should have told him about the fine for fare dodging it was advertised before and is also or was advertised on buses and can be as little as £400.00. now the big man will be charged i hope the train company pays any cost incured and fines the big man might have to pay.
YAYFUL1 2 months ago
Go Big Man! Kids need to be taught the rules and if his clearly inept parents aren't willing to teach him then at least there are others who will. This was not assault. The kid had a choice: get off the train and apologise OR stay and get kicked off.
SgtGECKO87 2 months ago
@SgtGECKO87 absolutely well said, SgtGECKO87, well said indeed.
LisaPPCole 2 months ago
I'm glad the guy is getting charged. You can't just kick people off trains. I travel without a ticket all the time.
laughingmyturbanoff1 2 months ago
@laughingmyturbanoff1 maybe you should get a job and sort your life out
Waaazup1 2 months ago
@Waaazup1 I have a job thank you.
laughingmyturbanoff1 2 months ago
You are Dreadful....
sharonhaylett 2 months ago
@sharonhaylett No, you are.
laughingmyturbanoff1 2 months ago
Fuck that kid. Its a shame he didn't get tossed from the bus, whats worst is his dad called for legal action instead of beating some sense into his own dip shit kid...
If your not going to take responsibility for your own kid acting a fool, don't sue and press charges on others who go out of their way to do it for you.
bIGbUTtHole420 2 months ago
@bIGbUTtHole420 WELL SAID, MATE!!!
AngelaCarton 2 months ago
Jeezo.
anddyx 2 months ago
What is really rather strange is that someone sat there and filmed it..
What a curious response to life..
Lytton333 2 months ago
@Lytton333 It's a sickening thing to do, given we are already on our way to living in Orwell's 1984, without our fellow men/women making things worse.
Gixxi7 2 months ago
Hey big man, any time you you want a fucking square go, pick on someone your own size you fat fuck
walmartio 2 months ago
Well, smart guy ... next time act as an honest person: buy a ticket.
xiruahu 2 months ago
@electricoskies That doesn't make any sense, according to my philosophy two wrongs don't make a right!! Both the big guy and the kid did wrong, hence the kids got as much right to fare dodge as the other guy has of physically removing him from the train. The train was at a station the conductor should have notified authorities, simple as...
merlinho5 2 months ago
Hey No ticket no travel.
electricoskies 2 months ago
Will Pollocking get a Bollocking or is he going down ?
I hear the ticket inspector has left the Railways now and become an ambassador to welcome to scotland tourist board.
Make sure you got a ticket before you go.
smadas12 2 months ago 2
Well done the big man! The police would have done nothing anyway.
Sheltie1001 2 months ago
the ticket dodger got what he deserved , the guy who kicked him off , is now getting charged for doing what is a civil duty that all us have the right to do , he was helping an elderly worker that would have probably wasted valuable police time and resources when all it took was a one or two civilians two remove pathetic yobs that refused to obey rules that are there to make the country's rail run correctly and on time , they held the train up and stopped people getting back to their families.
Switch4000 2 months ago
the lad could of had a genuine reason either illness or fear but some over weight twat didnt think of that be different if he was asian all i can say is you dick
mattvardy1980 2 months ago
The kid had no right to travel without a ticket but the big guy had no right to throw him off the train , that was a matter for the authorities, there is such a thing as transport police. As for the people pointing out the fact n getting abuse shows ur mentality, the kid has much right to travel without a ticket as the big guy had of throwing him off the train, particularly in the manner he did.
merlinho5 2 months ago
@merlinho5 yeah. According to your philosophy one plus one makes five.
electricoskies 2 months ago
I love the variety of insults stemming from this vid, from simply "cunt" to "bawbag" and "wet fart".
JamieCurrant 2 months ago 3
This has been flagged as spam show
All of the bully supporters on here - you are only projecting your frustration at everything that is wrong in the world on this one young man.
Gixxi7 2 months ago
The comments on here in defense of a bully are a symptom of what is wrong with the world. The law is interpreted in whatever way it suits the perverse. By extension it is OK to invade another country if you don't like them and you have better offensive systems..So to be fair if China decides to do the same what defense do these people have? All moral authority out of the window.
jamiejoh04 2 months ago
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Gixxi7 2 months ago
Your an idiot if you agree with the mans actions, people like you drag society down. Even if the lad had said he never bought a ticket and still wouldnt get of the train it doesn't give the man the right to assault the lad. The ticket inspector instigated the aggresion by not following procedure and not even he as the right to physicaly throw the lad of the train. The man has to be convicted for the assault. Its the law like it or not.
nl247365 2 months ago
@nl247365 He didn't assault him, you wet fart, he put him off the train where he belonged. And stop blaming the ticket inspector, blame the chav trying to travel without a ticket - he's the one in the wrong, despite your determination to make him out to be some kind of innocent victim. (Read up about what the chav boasted on his own Facebook account, that he was "travelling without a ticket").
People like you have got to stop defending crooks.
AlexisCapri 2 months ago 18
@AlexisCapri he did assault him thats how the fud has been charged, and the clearly see the boy is no chav look at him he is a wee bawbag student. there wis no need for the way that fat bullying c**t reacted it wis fuck awl tae dae wae him he took it too far. fair enough the wee guy needs a kick up the arse but it should of been handled by the police.
weemaig 2 months ago
@weemaig what kind of wet attitude is that? The big man was applauded by the other passengers. And you're here making out he's some kind of bad guy. I think the real reason people like you type this shite is because YOU try and travel without tickets yourself.
LisaJJMerry 2 months ago
@LisaJJMerry applauded by roughly 2 at most passengers - idiots. One woman was heard to be objecting.
Gixxi7 2 months ago
@Gixxi7 Go defend criminals somewhere else. It's absolutel morons like you that CAUSE crime because you look for a way to apologise for it wherever it happens. Fucking moron.
AngelaCarton 2 months ago
@AngelaCarton It's disappointing that you are taking your frustration at the world's problems out on one young man is all.
Gixxi7 2 months ago
@Gixxi7 Why are you defending this person, you should be condemning him for breaking the law. See if you can convincingly explain that to yourself.
LisaPPCole 2 months ago
@LisaPPCole I can, and I could turn your question on his head and ask exactly the same to you. I'm not only defending Sam Main, I'm defending your right also not to be assaulted in this manner. How would you feel if you went to your local corner shop, had a little dispute over being short-changed and then BOOM, some stranger wades over, grabs you and throws you onto the pavement?
Gixxi7 2 months ago
@Gixxi7 What absolute cack you type, seriously. You're the kind of person that thinks a mugger shouldn't be rugby tackled and has a right to carry out his work without fear of injury. Stop blaming anybody here except the person in the wrong - the chav without a ticket.
AngelaCarton 2 months ago
@AngelaCarton You are the cack on here if you think that a mugger and this lad are in any way the same thing.
Gixxi7 2 months ago
@Gixxi7 and you are the problem with people today - someone breaks the law and you immediately jump up to defend them. Grow some balls.
DayDreamAscent 2 months ago
@AlexisCapri
The student paid for his tickets you stupid puke. If you didn't have shit for brains you'd know that the fat asshole that shoved him off the train deserves to be prosecuted for assault. You'd also know that Alan Fucktard Pollock would have kept his lard ass in his seat if the student had been a 210 lb member of the university wrestling team. On the planet you're from a fare dodger would refuse to get off the train and sit tight til the cops arrived to arrest him. You sad idiot.
fleetyabas 2 months ago
@fleetyabas You're the fucking idiot, what part of the top-rated comment on this video did you fail to see, dickhead?
Eldomina22 1 month ago
@Eldomina22
In the intro to this video the student is called a "fare dodger" which turns out not to be true.
Now that that's taken care of, try hauling your thick head out of your fat arse you gormless pile of shite.
fleetyabas 1 month ago
@Eldomina22 Hes right. Kid should have been met at the next station by the police. Really simple. Had the conductor not been such a fucking jobsworth none of this would have happened. Fatty is a fucking bully and deserves to be prosecuted, was no need for him to get involved, he deserves to be prosecuted. Conductor should be sacked too as hes fucking inept.
TheFagOfChrist 1 month ago
@AlexisCapri as if your sad enough to be on the cunts facebook friends anyway ya fucking loaner !!! purple burglar alarm !!
novaturbkkk 2 months ago
@nl247365 fuck you you wimp
eltimo12 2 months ago
@groovyson Don't you realise one can join the army.
KingDessie 2 months ago
I'm going mate hahaha. Damn right you are! What a pleb. Nice to see this dude help out on a possible breach of the peace and help the conductor along with his lawful duties as he answered yes when asked 'do you want him off the train?'.
scratcheyee 2 months ago
@Pitcairn2 It was stated in the clip by the conductor.
KingDessie 2 months ago
@Gixxi7 So do I!
KingDessie 2 months ago
yes that guy is totally the bigman throwing someone about half his age, height and weight off the ground makes him so so hard ... not!
oootmachicken 2 months ago
Just the sort of disrespectful kid that thinks he can do anything and no-one can touch him. Tough luck kid, you finally met someone not prepared to put up with your s**t. Well done that man, its what everyone should have done, they were all thinking about it and recognised it was the right thing to do by applause he got. Of course its not assault, just a necessary measured and considered response to a gobby thug. The trouble was nipped in the bud. Well done that man
shoplift1 2 months ago
All this guy should have to face is a friendly ticking off from a bobby using his common sense, and telling the big man to be a bit more careful in future. If the CPS/ Procurator Fiscal want to make an exmple of the big fellow, he should elect trial by jury.
Idler1963 2 months ago
Just an everyday citizen throwing out the trash. Nothing wrong with that.
Inglott 2 months ago
Intresting, If the little chap has been volient rather than just mouthy then yes I'd back the big man :)
He wasn't and there was no call for that level of force. As a trained fighter / instructor even if someone is volient you have to consider the level of force you use. It isn't hard and I'm not saying the law is always right but in my view everyone knows right from wrong. Finally the should be retired ticket inspector, shouldn't have risen to it and followed procedure
Warrear 2 months ago
@flaminjack Nope whats wrong the the UK is an economic depression, that has fuck all to do with me, but it is another problem we can lay at the feet of your fat banker friend on the train. Lack of common sense or justice? I totally agree, just not on my part. If common sense or justice were involved the conductor would have phoned ahead for the police, like he is supposed to do. Those showing a real lack of the aforementioned attributes are those of you applauding this disgrace.
TheFagOfChrist 2 months ago
@Flaminjack Apologies for the slow response but i was far too busy laughing over the fact that i was right. Cunt.
TheFagOfChrist 2 months ago
The number of cry baby, limp wristed liberals who think Mr Pollock was in the wrong are the reason this country is fucked.
icedmetal81 2 months ago
Furthermore, I would have liked to see the 'big man' use this force on a group of drunken football fans. Would he have been so brave and big then? I highly doubt it. He used excessive force on a kid that was half the size of him. He deserves to be charged with assault. The kid should be fined. The ticket conductor should be suspended for neglecting to follow procedure. Boom. All sorted.
mgill87 2 months ago
@mgill87 agree, I worked on the trains many moons ago, a civilian throwing a man off a train is assault, the conductor could easily ask 'you need to buy another ticket' he didnt give the option, also he could tell the train driver to wait and call the trnsport police which arrive in around 10 minutes and let the law deal with it. Throwing a man head first onto concrete is barbaric! . Besides many poeple dont know the full story. I mean i got on a train with the wrong ticket a few times.
KassCraven 2 months ago 3
Some of you clearly have the wrong idea about how situations such as this should be dealt with. The ticket conductor has a procedure to follow when people do not have valid tickets. Yes, the boy was abusive and foul-mouthed and deserves punishment. It involves a quick call to the British transport police who would pick the boy up at the next station and deal with him in an appropriate fashion. This 'big man' used excessive force and did so purely out of want for admiration, not justice.
mgill87 2 months ago 2
where do we send donations to pay this mans fine.
shannondoh1 2 months ago
@shannondoh1 Yes, because being an investment wanker he is so poor.
3110SJA 2 months ago
@3110SJA yes and u being so clever too, would have realised I could afford the £1 along with the hundreds of other people who agreed what he did was right, oh and as for the poor wee boy he can pay his own fine.
shannondoh1 2 months ago
I think we have a very simple situation here. An elderly ticket inspector repeatedly asking a fare-dodger to leave. His refusal. A passenger 'assisting' the ticket inspector who then absolutely refuses re-entry, thereby reaffirming the fact his intention was to remove the passenger. And the goodwill and support of the passengers for the action including another removing FD's luggage. Good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope fare dodger learns a lesson.
davidgodber 2 months ago
I was rite all along!! The BIG MAN was a criminal for his conduct for assaulting wee man!! The investment wanker from Stirling has been charged with assault!!! Justice WILL BE SERVED!
speedingisacrime 2 months ago
why charge the guy the wee prick was being a dick haha
danny117fc 2 months ago
Now bein proper, I'd have ripped the wee cunts heid aff. And his faithet wants fuckin too
oxhaye210764 2 months ago
That wee nyaff deserves everything he gets. I for one will donate to the big mans fine. And bawbags dad seems like an a-hole and I would quite willingly give him some parenting lessons.
oxhaye210764 2 months ago
I question the mind state of anyone who condones this man. Through his own actions has proved himself to be aggressive. He assaulted the lad and the law is there to protect us from people like him, he had no right or justification. Had the lad shown physical aggression then reasonable force is warranted, however as he never all it comes down to is one mans anger getting the better of him. Nobody on that train except the lad knew the truth, the ticket man was in the wrong for argueing.
nl247365 2 months ago 3
the big man had a right to help as a puplic citizen..it was unfortunate that the geek slipped when leaving the train.
Ps3OwNzYOU1 2 months ago
Then you allow chaos and no one is safe. That is why we have a police force, paid for by us all apart from this investment banker, who goes out of his way to pay no tax at all, if possible. See Goldman Sachs - let off £20m - Vodafone - let off £6bn. And this guy beating up a poor student, swearing or not. I think you need to get your priorities straight.
1815brian 2 months ago
i would've just punched that cheeky cunt and dragged his ass out, Big man used an absolute perfect amount of force, the cunt had been asked several times, even told he could pay there and then, Big Man even apologises to a bystander for brushing her shoulder as he kicks the stupid twat off the bus
TheStalagmitesBand 2 months ago
ALPHA MALE
Haplonapper 2 months ago
big man is a pussy ill take him any day
bagsmig 2 months ago
sorry i dont speak scotch
bagsmig 2 months ago
@bagsmig He wants a bowl off porridge ;) xxxx
Stuie040792 2 months ago
resonable fource he didnt hurt him why is he going 2 b charged with assault?
zzZZalanZZzz 2 months ago
Everyone who is lambasting the 'Big Man' for helping the ticket inspector note this. If this were in England or Wales (my knowledge of Scottish law is not so good), the police would be using the same power to remove the oik as the BM. Common Law. Its there for all to use. Police are merely the civilians paid to devote their full time attention to it. The BM didn't go overboard, wasn't excessively rude and used reasonable force. I - for one - salute him.
tongmasi 2 months ago
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zzZZalanZZzz 2 months ago
I miss Scotland. In London, that would have been an hour of awkward staring with an occasional frustrated cough. xx
kerrymccarpet 2 months ago
@Ego2Big4Helmet I fear for a society where members of the public are afraid to intervene: to assist an elderly conductor; to prevent law abiding people from having their journeys delayed; to eject a public nuisance. God help us if we have to rely on the Police to diffuse every situation. They won't, and as for Police Community Support Officers.....
Idler1963 2 months ago
@Idler1963 I'm all for intervention, and in total agreement with you on PCSO's, but any intervention should be proportionate to the threat, someone shouting abuse on a train is a nuisance, and should be removed, but in the proper manner, and by people with the proper authority, being thrown to the floor is not an appropriate level of response for the situation, The elderly conductor exacerbated and inflamed the situation, something he had been trained not to do,
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago
Rotund man in a stripey jumper should get a sentence involving some form of training, it might prevent him going off the rails, and getting ideas above his station, 3 months would be about fare, in fact it would be just the ticket for conducting himself in such a poor manner.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago
And in front of children as well, I hope this cunt is proud of himself.
1815brian 2 months ago
The brat deserved everything he got and some. He should've been given a nightmare experience right there on the platform. Pay attention all you mouthy teens out there, if you start messing with adults you'll be treated like one, its as simple as that!
MrLockitintight 2 months ago
He could have got the wrong ticket. Or, as is more likely, he bought a cheaper ticket, hoping that there would a) be no conductor on the train or b) that the conductor wouldn't get to him before he got off. This is par for the course on Scotrail trains and has been for many, many years. Then, when he's caught, he acts obstreperously and is willing to hold up an entire train. Also, in reply to some commentators here, 'Scotch' is a drink. It is neither a language nor a nationality.
grrarghh1 2 months ago
That behaviour is disgusting, anyone who condones the way in which a grown man attacks a 19 year old student over a train ticket is not better than that man. The correct procedures should have been carried out to remove the young boy off of the train. Incase no one noticed there was young children on that train and that is the example that is set. The situation could have been a lot worse - more people could have got hurt. "Big man" ceased an opportunity to make himself feel big.
DARR3N07 2 months ago 3
@DARR3N07 Absolutely right on the money, the conductor should have requested the lad leave, and if/when hi didn't comply the conductor should have requested the assistance of the police, not make a huge drama out of a minor incident, the so called "big man" set an extremely poor example to any children on the train, physically throwing a young man to the floor is NOT reasonable, nor is it an appropriate response, I hope they throw the book at him, he might then think before he acts.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago 2
@DARR3N07 Does being 19 and a student mean you get on the train for free and can act as if you are the injured party when caught & think that because the conductor is elderly there'll be no consequences. What sort of example is that to set to kids: do what you want, if your caught make a scene and people will be too embarrassed to confront you? The "big man" intervening showed he was prepared to stand up for what's right. It's called social responsability & there should be more of it.
weeneeps 2 months ago 2
@weeneeps The lad had bought 2 tickets, even paying a higher price for one, recognising that his student railcard discount wasn't valid for 1 of the journeys but had been given the wrong tickets by rail staff, Big Man intervening showed him to be a bully, picking on a young lad, thats not socially responsible at all, its bullying, plain and simple, and now he should pay the price, he overreacted, not a great example to set for anyone, let alone children.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago 2
@Ego2Big4Helmet I once got stuck on a train inadvertantly when helping a friend on with their luggage & it departed B4 I could get off. I did not swear or get agitated when asked for a ticket just explained the situation. I received a letter to get me back home free. His actions are not consistent with someone who was the victim of a mistake which was only mentioned later after being charged. Bullying is habitual and does not apply to a one off application of force.
weeneeps 2 months ago
@Ego2Big4Helmet What bollocks, throw the little scrote off. Well done Big Man, you should be knighted.
AlexisCapri 2 months ago 2
@Ego2Big4Helmet You're wrong, he did NOT buy two single tickets as he claimed, that was just a weak excuse he made later. As someone else said, he boasted on his own Facebook account that he didn't have a ticket, he just miraculously changed his mind when this video became popular.
LisaJJMerry 2 months ago 14
He's now been charged with assault and so he should be. If the student had the wrong ticket, let the train continue and let them deal with it at his destination, instead of allowing vigilante law to prevail and this bully to manhandle him. He has no right, otherwise we are all at risk.
1815brian 2 months ago
@1815brian Vigilantes seek to punish people who they feel have escaped the law. In this case the "big man" was not punishing him but enforcing the "law" in the form of the conductor's insistance the fare dodger leave. This could come under the provision of a citizen's arrest which allows reasonable force (which is of course a subjective term).
weeneeps 2 months ago
@weeneeps The actions of the "Big Man" bore absolutely no similarity, (in either a practical or legal sense) to a citizens arrest, to arrest is to detain, to seize, to capture, in all instances until such time as an officer of the law attends, the "Big Man", did not perform a citizens arrest, he ejected a young lad from a train, assaulting him in the process, something even a police officer can be charged with, "Big Man" has been charged, indicating that there is at least a case to answer.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago
@Ego2Big4Helmet Being charged and being prosecuted are entirely not the same. I've been charged with assault before after I was attacked by an idiot with a bottle. The police arrived & saw me defending myself & were obliged to charge me since they saw me striking him. The procurator fiscal issued me a letter similar to what I imagine BM will get, with a warning but saying no further action will be taken. Unless the media attention makes them take it more seriously than normal.
weeneeps 2 months ago
Big ego big helmet- you've picked the perfect nom de plume.
Idler1963 2 months ago
@Idler1963 Keep ticking over Idler, until you obtain gainful employment.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago
Well done you prats for putting this on You Tube and getting the Big Man arrested. Jeez.
Idler1963 2 months ago
@Idler1963 Its no more than he deserved, he's a bully, or is it okay for a member of the public to "act" only when you agree with it ?.
Fair play to whoever uploaded the video, it just goes to show there's usually 2 sides to a single story.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago
Stop Press: Alan Pollock was discovered earlier this evening drinking the acid out of car batteries, he's been taken to Linlithgow station and further charged.
Ego2Big4Helmet 2 months ago
eye for an eye
Fair play would be to take fat boy on the train, tie his hands and legs together, let abusive lad push him off the train onto his fat face. Of course the event would be put on video and everyone who watched would be charged a penny. The money raised would go to raise money for treating kids that have been bullied by a fat boy.
I have the first viewing ticket. would even pay 10p myself to see it.
smadas12 2 months ago