I would love to go to North Korea. As horrible a country as it is, it would be interesting to see the unique culture before it inevitably destroys itself.
woody231979 ignorance is no answer to this house of learned ones. I could explain why in fact you would be okay in North Korea but I will not waste my time with fools of your level
@meleszenawi1111 Wow...please bestow your wisdom on me oh great one. For I am just a stupid peasant who doesn't understand your vast knowledge. Spare me...ya want to go there to fullfill some kind of strange ego driven adventure to play with fire so to speak. Yeah, I'll bet the same people that got caught in Iran and North Korea had the same strange fascination that you did, genius. I will stick to countries that don't want to kidnap me and use me for a propoganda campaign.
Someone please explain to me why would you want to visit a third world country that could easily take away any rights or liberties you think you have while there. Not to mention that, if you are an American, they hate your rotten guts. What would you do if you got stuck there during an international incident ? No thank you...I am fine where I am.
@mechatech70 Thanks for the answer. My problem with North Korea is this... They torture innocent people, force their population into poverty so KIm Jong and his family can buy mansions and live like kings while they run this huge propoganda machine that oppresses and destroys any free will or spirit those poor people have and the worst part is...they don't even know life outside that country. They even have concentration camps for torturring people. Have you read some of the personal accounts
@mechatech70 continued...... have you read some of the personal accounts of soldiers or others who have got out of North Korea with only their lives while their families are still there ? They would also snatch you and your family up only to keep you for propoganda and use you as a bargaining tool. Plus...if you do get caught, tax payer money has to be spent in order to try and secure your release. Yet, you want to visit it like it's a Hollywood Tour ? Again, why do you want to go there ?
@woody231979 I can give no answer which could placate you; as you say, there are many reasons not to go. I suppose I don't know why it interests some people, as well as myself. I tell myself that the reason I would wish to visit is to see the culture and because of the political intrigue. But the truth is that the reason cannot be put into words. If I were trying my hardest, I would assert that to me, cultures are worth more than gold and all the money in the world, and it is by the grace ...
@woody231979 -continued. ...grace of God that we can learn about them, and try our best to understand even the most alien of them, and the harshest. However, that even is an inadequate reason. English is not the most descriptive of languages, you see. So instead, I will make up my own word. I want to go to North Korea (and other communistic areas) because of hgjfnuhybhdnfntu. I believe that will answer you. Or not. Either way, all are entitled to their own opinions. I hope I have placated you.
@mechatech70 That is more of an honest answer than "seeing the architecture" or "just to say you had". I just see people wanting to go to Iran or North Korea and I can't help but think that it's this strange fascination with it that draws people there. Almost like people who want to see a dead body, talk to a sociopath, see an accident at an auto race, or go to war. It all sounds cool at first, but then when ya see it or get a first hand experience, it all changes.
@mechatech70 I just find it almost sadistic. Like you are seeking an adrenaline rush to feel stimulated or alive by poking the monster, so to speak. I find that unsettling about our society. We enjoy satisfying our personal urges even at the misforture of others. I could maybe understand going there after the fall of the govt when people are free from oppression, but not while they are being oppressed. That seems a little sick to me. It disturbs when people like you can
@mechatech70 I don't know. Maybe I am no different than you as I am trying to understand why you want to experience something which seems bizarre to me. When you want to try to understand something that is probably bizarre to you. Maybe I am no different, or maybe I know where to draw the line before my seeking the truth doesn't land me in a third world country where yours would. I don't know. I was just always curious why people want to take that kind of a risk. Now I know...for a thrill.
@woody231979 You misunderstand my reasoning. It is not a thrill. I suppose you could call it sick, if you wish to. But it is not a thrill. It is not like going on a rollercoaster, or a safari, or even playing a video game. It is not the thrill of seeing people oppressed and laughing at them, nor at poking a monster. It is, instead, more an interest. It is interesting to see what could be. That is one way to put it. Perhaps it is sadistic, but human kind is a sadistic species. History has proven
@woody231979 this beyond a doubt. Take the war out of human history and you are left with very little. Fascinating to some people, perhaps (farming and migration and such, which is amazing in truth, but not interesting to most people), but not to the majority of humans. Instead, people visit such places, or at least the reason many people would, to see what could have been. Here in America, or in England, or in Sweden, or in most countries in modern times, you have freedoms. It
@mechatech70 We are better than this...humans, I mean. We need to expect more from ourselves and others instead of settling for this narcissism and apathy that keeps getting worse in our society. I don't know what needs to happen, but I do have a few ideas. Our news pumps us full of fear as they only perpertuate our sense of insecurity and fear. It's always violence and propoganda that we allow to keep us all complacent and stuck in this state of fight or flight. We as humans can reject that.
@mechatech70 but we don''t reject it. We allow ourselves to accept it as the normal way or our "species", like we have no choice and it's just "our way" or "who we are". I reject that. We are better than giving in to our primitive behaviors. We are more than that and have evolved. I am one to believe that a lot of this negativity that we find ourselves to fascinated with, that is practically spoom fed to us, we all eventually fade out of society.
@woody231979 interests many people to see what could have been. It is not that they *enjoy* seeing other humans suffer, but more that they are *fascinated* by the fact that the whole world is not as they know. The world is as a stone, and certain parts of that stone are rotten. They will fall away beneath your feet. It is safer to stay on the safe sections, but then you will not know what has caused the stone to rot. You will not know that there are areas that are not as you know. So in the end,
@woody231979 I suppose you are right. Certain people will go to tempt fate. But not all. I do not pretend to be wise, or to know many things. I am but sixteen, and have not even completed high school. But I do know now why I would go. I have realized it through this conversation. I would go to see what is, why it is, and how we could avoid making the places where we live as the places which are of rotten stone. I thank you for showing me this, but I deny with every fiber of my being and every
@woody231979 bit of wisdom I have residing in me, which admittedly is not much, that I would go for a thrill. You do not give people enough credit. Rather, you sit and analyze logically. Logic is a powerful tool, but it is not the most important tool. Beware that you do not base your life on logic alone, but rather on wisdom, logic, and emotion. For we are not robots, but living creatures. And without emotion, and without strange urges whic are hard to explain, we do not live, but instead exist.
@woody231979 Ah, but there I go trying to sound wise again. I am tired, so I will stop writing now. I realize I am long winded, and I am sorry to have made you read this. But look at my words and I hope you will find the truth. I will analyze what you have said as well, though not only with logic. Sir or madam, I wish you a life worthy of a king, and filled with happiness, for that is what I feel is the right thing to do. Good day.
@mechatech70 I do give humans more credit, I just get disappointed when they don't use their brains more often. I do see more of your points and reasoning for going. " to see what is, why it is, and how we could avoid making the places where we live as the places which are of rotten stone" makes a lot more sense to me. I guess I was hoping that there was more than a reason than to seek a thrill or adventure. I am glad that is the reason you want to go, not that your answer needs to satisfy or
@mechatech70 continued...placate me....I was just hoping to derive some kind of meaningful reason for another human being to go there. I appreciate the long winded answer, You are wise for a 16 year old. I am always glad to see someone as young as yourself using intellect and conversation to make a point instead of snide remarks and immaturity as a lot seem to do online. I hope that didn't sound condescending. You may be much wiser than I am and I am much older than you.
@woody231979 You honor me. And thank *you*. It is nice, as you said, to meet somebody who reasons rather than simply abuses comebacks used many times before. This has been fun, to be honest. Have a good day, and in the long run, a good life, for you obviously know your beliefs, and what you think is right. That is more than many people can say, and it should take you far (in my opinion). Good day, sir. Good day.
@VeritasTruthEmet - i'm sure it is less than 10k. when i went the total trip was about 6k and that included about a week in beijing. you can check the prices at koryotours . com.
intresting video. couple questions. what did the tour cost and would a canadian be considered a northern american. also I had seen in prior videos having to bow to a statue of the leader is that still in effect?
@123456789mischief - I think the total cost for just the DPRK portion of the trip was around $3000 for 4 days and 3 nights. Not exactly cheap, but well worth it. Then you have to consider the costs for spending some time in Beijing before and after you go to North Korea.
The very first thing you'll do when you arrive in Pyongyang is go to the statue of Kim il-Sung, lay flowers and bow. This is a requirement and not worth trying to get out of because you wont.
@123456789mischief. you should definitely go. you will never regret it. if you are an american citizen you'll be able to stay even longer than i was allowed to. go with koryo tours and tell me how it was when you get back. it's truly a once in a lifetime thing that might not be possible in the not too distant future.
@incheon - Koryo Tours handles getting the DPRK visa. The only visa you need to worry about before you go is a double-entry China visa. There are companies here in the US that will do that for you via the mail. I think it cost a couple hundred bucks but it was easy to get.
Whats sad is we in the "Free World" can watch videos like this that show NK in a "good light" and also hear and see the "Bad" stuff about NK, and can draw our own conclusions and opinions. Where as NK'n people will never be shown anything about the good of the people in America.
@pucknut68 That is so true. Someone once had video footage of being in a NK classroom of children and they had drawings of like NK soldiers vs. US soldiers. Of course NK was winning. They also showed the children watching a video tape in the class about how the US is and that they are bad.
I don't know if it was here on Youtube or on Myspace back in the day. But I saw it forever ago and it was honestly heartbreaking.
Such beautiful people being brainwashed by such an ugly man.
Interesting. BTW, I could be wrong, but the narrator doing the commentary here also worked in the English-language service of the Voice Of Korea(formerly Radio Pyongyang)'s English-language service. Can remember hearing that station's shortwave radio broadcasts in the western US in the 1980's, and again, nearly twenty years later, in the early 2000's. Thanks for posting this here.
@Bakuninmeow, you could very well be right. I was not yet in high school in the 1980's so I don't have the point of reference. But I can tell you that I do recognize his voice from many of the official propaganda films that I've seen both here in the US and when I was in North Korea.
I understand how that voice would stick in your memory. Thanks for watching.
The chicks over there are of high quality, especially in Pyongyang. Mostly because any ugly ones are not allowed in the city and the attractive ones are brought from outside the city to live in Pyongyang.
However, they are strictly forbidden from approaching or speaking with foreigners.
The one time we could talk with them was at the Mass Games, but they don't speak english and my Korean leaves a lot to be desired.
That's really sad. :( As a female man that'd make me feel horrible. What would they do if there was a girl and one person thought they were beautiful and another person said they weren't? What about their family like a spouse or children? Do they move too?
What a pile of bullshit. The scary things is, these people really think that the rest of the world, who watches this, might even come close to actually believing it is the real thing.
An entire nation brainwashed - but then again, go with the flow or you and 3 generations of your family are tortured before being murdered.
Was laying the flowers mandatory? Part of me would like to go to the DPRK just for the experience, but the other part of me knows that my tourist expenses would contribute to the regime.
Have you thought about that? If so, how did you reconcile it? Not trying to start a flame war, just seriously interested.
It won't matter. If you go there, do it for the personal adventure. This regime will crumble itself. Your small amount of money won't make a difference.
the food we had was very good and there was plenty of it. we had meat and/or fish at each meal. in kaesong dog was available for an extra fee. we ate only in restaurants for foreigners and the food was already on the table by the time we arrived. there was no ordering except if you wanted something to drink besides water or beer. i had quite a few very expensive cokes. i think they were about $4 each. most places didn't have it though. beer was served at each meal.
More or less, yes we were required to bow. I suppose I could have gotten out of it but there's no reason not to just do what they ask you to. It only took one second.
This is an interesting vid! 2 questions about your accommodations:
- Did you have reason to believe that your hotel room was bugged? (I understand that journalists are sometimes told in advance that their rooms are monitored, but I am not sure about tourists.)
- Were your rooms equipped with speakers or audio devices that played patriotic music or Party speeches?
we were told and i had read that it was possible that they were bugged so we took no changes. my guide gave me his offical kim il-sung badge and i made sure not to say anything about it when we were in the hotel room. i would doubt they were bugged, but can't know for sure.
and we did not have the propaganda speakers in our hotel rooms. they save that for their people only. that's not to say we didn't get our share of propaganda while we there there. that's all we heard from our guides.
what would they do to you in you spit or slandered kim il sungs statue? send you to china or take you hostage and put you in gulag? and what would they do to you if you took off on your own without asking and went FAR? i actually heard the tour guides are bullys
that sort of thing happened all the time. not necessarily the diarrhea, but the need to use the bathroom. yes, when one person needs to break away from the group a guide will be with you at all times under all circumstances. they just wait outside the bathroom until you're done and come out.
zbyszek654, yes, you always have to be careful on countries like that because anyone can be a spy for the government. anyways what made you go there? i was in the military, so i think i couldn't go there because i might lose it and and start a war...lol
IF I WAS TO TRAVEL THERE, ALTHOUGH I RESPECT THE FACT THAT EVERY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE IT OWN DESTINY, I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT MILLIONS HAVE TO DIE OF HUNGER/MURDERED BECAUSE OF A ''DEAR LEADER''. if i had to lay a wreath of flowers there i would at least in a low tone had told kim jong that i hope he is burning in hell...fuck dictators..
yes, that's pretty much what we did. we really had no choice, we had to buy and lay flowers at the statue. although we had to be very careful what we said. if our guide even thought for a second we were being disrespectful to the great leader we would have been sent right back to china.
Lol at the end of this video they made all those white tourist bow. How embarrassing. I would nt do that, I would ask to go home immediately. Did they make you bow? Why would anyone travel there? Its like old school communist style country its not even the cool communism like china its the bad kind.
The tour is fully guided so you get driven to each site and the statue is one of the first places you go to. There they will ask (tell) you politely to make a bow to the statue. It dosen't take long and it's just something they want you to do. I wasn't to fussed by it and you do it in a line all at the same time not individually.
well sounds like a interesting place. I dont know i thought its wierd they make you bow to a man that killed so many ppl. I thought it was illegal to travel there. I know its ilegal to travel to cuba.
Not really as I was with a british tour company and they had been houndreds of times to the country. Plus why would the North Koreans actually want to keep me lol
I dont know to slash throats of the imperialist. What attracted you to NK. You know like half the country is starving and everything you see is prompted up just for you.
Yes I know about the food shortages in the country. They guids are actually quite open about talking about some of the food problems faced in the north korea, they called it the arduas march.
I watched team america and then looked up north korea on the internet and found i could go there, so i wasn't doing anything in april so thought I'd go.
So you watched a movie and then went. Well talk about impulse controll lol. I wonder what your family said when they found out you are going to NK for a vacation.
i am one of the people in the video who went on vacation to north korea. what sort of "big risk" are you talking about? did you see some sort of risk happening in the video?
There is plenty to see, but everything to do with war will be presented to you with their version of what happened, not the actual truth. It's 100% pro DPRK and anti-Japanese, American and South Korean.
I think I would find it interesting but seriously I couldnt go there... I hate Kim Jong ill. I am a constitutionalist marxist. But I cant stand the FAKE peoples republic of North Korea. Fuckin Kim endulges in Western luxuries all the time and starves the people to death and makes them worship him and his father like God's WTF thats not communist at all. Fuckin Hypocrite.
Uh.... Kim didnt do that.... His daddy did to some degree with help but even he.... was corrupted by power so much so that he created a dynasty and passed political power to his kid! WTF is that there are no dynasties in real communism!
Get over yourself... that is a dictatorship/monarchy masquerading as a workers paradise.
Thats not true at all! Communism, Fascism, Democracy, Oligarchy....etc. they are all political/economic philiosphical structures. if a country professes to be communist, socialist, Democratic or whatever and yet enacts policies that are the direct antithesis to that then that country is a FAKE.
What kind of Democratic republic has rigged elections in which there is only one political figure on the ballot who just happens to be the son of the former leader? FAKE... duh!
Obviously a socialist democracy where the people have a single hearted unity ..& is successfully holding world imperialism at bay.That's your true objection.
LMAO.... Please dont defend socialism... I dont need people like you making it look stupid.
I was very clear on what I object to with respect to North Korea. They are not being true to their ideology. Just one look at the fucking PALACES that they erected and the grand luxuries the elites of the country indulge in should show that a huge class divide exists in that country and its not as a result of an outside source.
They are living the reality of building,sustaining & defending actual socialism..while you are having an extended juvenile intellectual safari on something you don't live & are to impotent to successfully achieve.
Lol... if you call making your citizens bow to every picture of you and requiring to prostrate themselves in front of huge stone idols of your parents.... all the while driving capitalist made cars.... and importing foreign luxuries for only you and the privileged class to enjoy. And at the same time jailing and killing those who speak out against your version of socialism....."actual socialism" then count me out.
Btw I thought these things "were what they do" so wtf is actual socialism? OWNED!
You live in this capitalist /Imperialist USA same as i do.Recently this country is at war in Iraq & Afghanistan.Since u can't stop this aggression with your pseudo socialist romanticism u are already 'counted out' in any practical way.
yea they the north korean goverment, WAnts ALL tourists and everyone to bow to that stupid statue OF kin jung, or whatever his name is, its sad, because i want to go to north korea, BUT u cant talk to people, and everyone is brainwashed,i hope the leader dies, really i mean it, he opresses HIS people
it's a parallel universe another vision of history and humanity even if the rest of the world totally disagree, the koreans can't compare with anything else because this is all they know and as the leader is great the country has to be great, for them they are living in the best country in the world and they believe in it strictly! that's more you can say than our countries if this life suits them and brings them to joy I can't say much more about it
Yes. You can try watching National Geographic channel's video about North Korea. You'd be shock about the real things happening in North Korea. Apparently, it has been rumoured that the buildings at the border are mere visages to show the SK how "good" life is in NK.
If you came to my country, I would expect you to respect it. I decided to go to N. Korea, and while I might not agree with the way the country is run, no one forced me so it is pure ignorance to disrespect them on their own turf.
You have to bow you idiots and if you dont they do end the tour and ur deported we are going there this year cant wait our friends went there and you must bow. buy a passport
UGH! I can't believe those stupid tourists actually put flowers by the statue and bowed to it! They are just as bad as he is. I wouldn't have done it...
I am one of the "stupid tourists" that you're talking about. We did not have any choice in the matter. I do not repect the great leader in any way. However, we knew that bowing and putting flowers by the statue was required if we wanted to go there.
No, you don't have to. They just want you to because they don't know any better. It's your choice whether you want to or not. They aren't going to end the tour just because you wouldn't bow.
It is required. No matter what you say, it is. They wouldn't end the tour if we didn't. They would have driven me to the airport and put me on a flight back to China. The DPRK is not the United States where one would have the option to do or not do as one pleases.
Flowers must be a flourishing trade in a country otherwise ravaged by all sorts of economic problems. lol.
CARTER4526 1 week ago
wow they make tourists put flowers down for kim il sun and then bow for him? thats insane
TheRNP93 2 months ago
North Korea is the "land of morning come"? I thought that was my bedroom during high school...
cheerfulerik 2 months ago
I would love to go to North Korea. As horrible a country as it is, it would be interesting to see the unique culture before it inevitably destroys itself.
mechatech70 3 months ago
It is kinda a weird but I want to visit this country too
AdministradorMKT 4 months ago
WATCH OUT ANYTHING CAN GET CANCELLED AND SUSPENDED AT A MOMENT NOTICE
21boxhead 6 months ago
At least traffic isn't a problem there.
AlabamaSoldier 7 months ago
I wanna go there! DPRK is a mysterious country!
felino3210 10 months ago
nice background music
bahkeru645 10 months ago
Where the hell is the color? it looks so grey....xD
Isnt like new york
xy274 1 year ago
woody231979 ignorance is no answer to this house of learned ones. I could explain why in fact you would be okay in North Korea but I will not waste my time with fools of your level
meleszenawi1111 1 year ago
@meleszenawi1111 Wow...please bestow your wisdom on me oh great one. For I am just a stupid peasant who doesn't understand your vast knowledge. Spare me...ya want to go there to fullfill some kind of strange ego driven adventure to play with fire so to speak. Yeah, I'll bet the same people that got caught in Iran and North Korea had the same strange fascination that you did, genius. I will stick to countries that don't want to kidnap me and use me for a propoganda campaign.
woody231979 3 months ago
Welcome to the North Korean highlights reel.
ishikawa92 1 year ago
Someone please explain to me why would you want to visit a third world country that could easily take away any rights or liberties you think you have while there. Not to mention that, if you are an American, they hate your rotten guts. What would you do if you got stuck there during an international incident ? No thank you...I am fine where I am.
woody231979 1 year ago
@woody231979
1- to see the unique culture before it destroys itself.
2- just to say you had.
3- they do have some beautiful buildings there. If you like architecture, it's worth a visit.
mechatech70 3 months ago
@mechatech70 Thanks for the answer. My problem with North Korea is this... They torture innocent people, force their population into poverty so KIm Jong and his family can buy mansions and live like kings while they run this huge propoganda machine that oppresses and destroys any free will or spirit those poor people have and the worst part is...they don't even know life outside that country. They even have concentration camps for torturring people. Have you read some of the personal accounts
woody231979 3 months ago
@mechatech70 continued...... have you read some of the personal accounts of soldiers or others who have got out of North Korea with only their lives while their families are still there ? They would also snatch you and your family up only to keep you for propoganda and use you as a bargaining tool. Plus...if you do get caught, tax payer money has to be spent in order to try and secure your release. Yet, you want to visit it like it's a Hollywood Tour ? Again, why do you want to go there ?
woody231979 3 months ago
@woody231979 I can give no answer which could placate you; as you say, there are many reasons not to go. I suppose I don't know why it interests some people, as well as myself. I tell myself that the reason I would wish to visit is to see the culture and because of the political intrigue. But the truth is that the reason cannot be put into words. If I were trying my hardest, I would assert that to me, cultures are worth more than gold and all the money in the world, and it is by the grace ...
mechatech70 3 months ago
@woody231979 -continued. ...grace of God that we can learn about them, and try our best to understand even the most alien of them, and the harshest. However, that even is an inadequate reason. English is not the most descriptive of languages, you see. So instead, I will make up my own word. I want to go to North Korea (and other communistic areas) because of hgjfnuhybhdnfntu. I believe that will answer you. Or not. Either way, all are entitled to their own opinions. I hope I have placated you.
mechatech70 3 months ago
@mechatech70 That is more of an honest answer than "seeing the architecture" or "just to say you had". I just see people wanting to go to Iran or North Korea and I can't help but think that it's this strange fascination with it that draws people there. Almost like people who want to see a dead body, talk to a sociopath, see an accident at an auto race, or go to war. It all sounds cool at first, but then when ya see it or get a first hand experience, it all changes.
woody231979 3 months ago
@mechatech70 I just find it almost sadistic. Like you are seeking an adrenaline rush to feel stimulated or alive by poking the monster, so to speak. I find that unsettling about our society. We enjoy satisfying our personal urges even at the misforture of others. I could maybe understand going there after the fall of the govt when people are free from oppression, but not while they are being oppressed. That seems a little sick to me. It disturbs when people like you can
't see that.
woody231979 3 months ago
@mechatech70 I don't know. Maybe I am no different than you as I am trying to understand why you want to experience something which seems bizarre to me. When you want to try to understand something that is probably bizarre to you. Maybe I am no different, or maybe I know where to draw the line before my seeking the truth doesn't land me in a third world country where yours would. I don't know. I was just always curious why people want to take that kind of a risk. Now I know...for a thrill.
woody231979 3 months ago
@woody231979 You misunderstand my reasoning. It is not a thrill. I suppose you could call it sick, if you wish to. But it is not a thrill. It is not like going on a rollercoaster, or a safari, or even playing a video game. It is not the thrill of seeing people oppressed and laughing at them, nor at poking a monster. It is, instead, more an interest. It is interesting to see what could be. That is one way to put it. Perhaps it is sadistic, but human kind is a sadistic species. History has proven
mechatech70 3 months ago
@woody231979 this beyond a doubt. Take the war out of human history and you are left with very little. Fascinating to some people, perhaps (farming and migration and such, which is amazing in truth, but not interesting to most people), but not to the majority of humans. Instead, people visit such places, or at least the reason many people would, to see what could have been. Here in America, or in England, or in Sweden, or in most countries in modern times, you have freedoms. It
mechatech70 3 months ago
@mechatech70 We are better than this...humans, I mean. We need to expect more from ourselves and others instead of settling for this narcissism and apathy that keeps getting worse in our society. I don't know what needs to happen, but I do have a few ideas. Our news pumps us full of fear as they only perpertuate our sense of insecurity and fear. It's always violence and propoganda that we allow to keep us all complacent and stuck in this state of fight or flight. We as humans can reject that.
woody231979 3 months ago
@mechatech70 but we don''t reject it. We allow ourselves to accept it as the normal way or our "species", like we have no choice and it's just "our way" or "who we are". I reject that. We are better than giving in to our primitive behaviors. We are more than that and have evolved. I am one to believe that a lot of this negativity that we find ourselves to fascinated with, that is practically spoom fed to us, we all eventually fade out of society.
woody231979 3 months ago
@woody231979 interests many people to see what could have been. It is not that they *enjoy* seeing other humans suffer, but more that they are *fascinated* by the fact that the whole world is not as they know. The world is as a stone, and certain parts of that stone are rotten. They will fall away beneath your feet. It is safer to stay on the safe sections, but then you will not know what has caused the stone to rot. You will not know that there are areas that are not as you know. So in the end,
mechatech70 3 months ago
@woody231979 I suppose you are right. Certain people will go to tempt fate. But not all. I do not pretend to be wise, or to know many things. I am but sixteen, and have not even completed high school. But I do know now why I would go. I have realized it through this conversation. I would go to see what is, why it is, and how we could avoid making the places where we live as the places which are of rotten stone. I thank you for showing me this, but I deny with every fiber of my being and every
mechatech70 3 months ago
@woody231979 bit of wisdom I have residing in me, which admittedly is not much, that I would go for a thrill. You do not give people enough credit. Rather, you sit and analyze logically. Logic is a powerful tool, but it is not the most important tool. Beware that you do not base your life on logic alone, but rather on wisdom, logic, and emotion. For we are not robots, but living creatures. And without emotion, and without strange urges whic are hard to explain, we do not live, but instead exist.
mechatech70 3 months ago
@woody231979 Ah, but there I go trying to sound wise again. I am tired, so I will stop writing now. I realize I am long winded, and I am sorry to have made you read this. But look at my words and I hope you will find the truth. I will analyze what you have said as well, though not only with logic. Sir or madam, I wish you a life worthy of a king, and filled with happiness, for that is what I feel is the right thing to do. Good day.
mechatech70 3 months ago
@mechatech70 I do give humans more credit, I just get disappointed when they don't use their brains more often. I do see more of your points and reasoning for going. " to see what is, why it is, and how we could avoid making the places where we live as the places which are of rotten stone" makes a lot more sense to me. I guess I was hoping that there was more than a reason than to seek a thrill or adventure. I am glad that is the reason you want to go, not that your answer needs to satisfy or
woody231979 3 months ago
@mechatech70 continued...placate me....I was just hoping to derive some kind of meaningful reason for another human being to go there. I appreciate the long winded answer, You are wise for a 16 year old. I am always glad to see someone as young as yourself using intellect and conversation to make a point instead of snide remarks and immaturity as a lot seem to do online. I hope that didn't sound condescending. You may be much wiser than I am and I am much older than you.
woody231979 3 months ago
@mechatech70 Thanks for the conversation. I hope you get to go to North Korea for the reasons you stated. Those seem like good reasons to go.
woody231979 3 months ago
@woody231979 You honor me. And thank *you*. It is nice, as you said, to meet somebody who reasons rather than simply abuses comebacks used many times before. This has been fun, to be honest. Have a good day, and in the long run, a good life, for you obviously know your beliefs, and what you think is right. That is more than many people can say, and it should take you far (in my opinion). Good day, sir. Good day.
mechatech70 3 months ago
Ah no footage of the concentration camps those are the best parts :(
P0WAT0TH3P30PL3 1 year ago
note the description: taken by a North Korean videographer. so they only show the "best parts" of north korea
SNOW890 1 year ago
how much is this trip, i am going to do this for sure if its less than 10k
VeritasTruthEmet 1 year ago 2
@VeritasTruthEmet - i'm sure it is less than 10k. when i went the total trip was about 6k and that included about a week in beijing. you can check the prices at koryotours . com.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
intresting video. couple questions. what did the tour cost and would a canadian be considered a northern american. also I had seen in prior videos having to bow to a statue of the leader is that still in effect?
thanks
123456789mischief 1 year ago
@123456789mischief ok replayed it and I see still have to bow. missed it the first time.
123456789mischief 1 year ago
@123456789mischief - I think the total cost for just the DPRK portion of the trip was around $3000 for 4 days and 3 nights. Not exactly cheap, but well worth it. Then you have to consider the costs for spending some time in Beijing before and after you go to North Korea.
The very first thing you'll do when you arrive in Pyongyang is go to the statue of Kim il-Sung, lay flowers and bow. This is a requirement and not worth trying to get out of because you wont.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
@zbyszek654 thank you for the information. helps with the decision on wether or not to go.
123456789mischief 1 year ago
@123456789mischief. you should definitely go. you will never regret it. if you are an american citizen you'll be able to stay even longer than i was allowed to. go with koryo tours and tell me how it was when you get back. it's truly a once in a lifetime thing that might not be possible in the not too distant future.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
@zbyszek654 Zbyszek ty jestes Polakiem?
incheon 1 year ago
@incheon - no i don't speak polish. i have some polish friends and i just liked the name. i even named my dog zbyszek, she's a border collie.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
@zbyszek654 Gotcha just like me, I'm Polish but got a Korean nick name LOL. Anyway was it hard to get a visa to go there? I'm interested in a trip...
incheon 1 year ago
@incheon - Koryo Tours handles getting the DPRK visa. The only visa you need to worry about before you go is a double-entry China visa. There are companies here in the US that will do that for you via the mail. I think it cost a couple hundred bucks but it was easy to get.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
lol, korearr
LaughingMage 1 year ago
man I wanna go
joeyford 1 year ago
"A land of morning cum!"
darennio 1 year ago
Wie lächerlich ist das denn mit den Blumen ... was sind das für Touris ???
ReggidReggid 1 year ago
Whats sad is we in the "Free World" can watch videos like this that show NK in a "good light" and also hear and see the "Bad" stuff about NK, and can draw our own conclusions and opinions. Where as NK'n people will never be shown anything about the good of the people in America.
pucknut68 1 year ago
very well said. hopefully soon the people of the dprk will have the same opportunities we do to be able to draw their own conclusions.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
@pucknut68 That is so true. Someone once had video footage of being in a NK classroom of children and they had drawings of like NK soldiers vs. US soldiers. Of course NK was winning. They also showed the children watching a video tape in the class about how the US is and that they are bad.
I don't know if it was here on Youtube or on Myspace back in the day. But I saw it forever ago and it was honestly heartbreaking.
Such beautiful people being brainwashed by such an ugly man.
AMANDAtheAWESOMEone 4 months ago
Interesting. BTW, I could be wrong, but the narrator doing the commentary here also worked in the English-language service of the Voice Of Korea(formerly Radio Pyongyang)'s English-language service. Can remember hearing that station's shortwave radio broadcasts in the western US in the 1980's, and again, nearly twenty years later, in the early 2000's. Thanks for posting this here.
Bakuninmeow 1 year ago
@Bakuninmeow, you could very well be right. I was not yet in high school in the 1980's so I don't have the point of reference. But I can tell you that I do recognize his voice from many of the official propaganda films that I've seen both here in the US and when I was in North Korea.
I understand how that voice would stick in your memory. Thanks for watching.
zbyszek654 1 year ago
Ah..........Paradise.
Karoke77 1 year ago
Got to love the accent xD
halofan243 2 years ago
i cant believe my eyes, teenager visiting NK?? whao... adventrous spirit...
hAhan17 2 years ago
there was even a 6 month baby and her parents in our group from the United States. the girl who came with her mother was around 15 i think.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
I know where im going for my next vacation ;)
ostapslobodian 2 years ago
I don't care about this propaganda. HOW ARE THE CHICKS OVER THERE?!
RK831 2 years ago
The chicks over there are of high quality, especially in Pyongyang. Mostly because any ugly ones are not allowed in the city and the attractive ones are brought from outside the city to live in Pyongyang.
However, they are strictly forbidden from approaching or speaking with foreigners.
The one time we could talk with them was at the Mass Games, but they don't speak english and my Korean leaves a lot to be desired.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
That's really sad. :( As a female man that'd make me feel horrible. What would they do if there was a girl and one person thought they were beautiful and another person said they weren't? What about their family like a spouse or children? Do they move too?
LittlePinky82 2 years ago
What a pile of bullshit. The scary things is, these people really think that the rest of the world, who watches this, might even come close to actually believing it is the real thing.
An entire nation brainwashed - but then again, go with the flow or you and 3 generations of your family are tortured before being murdered.
no1zgrl4eva 2 years ago 19
@no1zgrl4eva
Oh lord, you sure know a lot about north korea considering you didn't go.
AtheismCentral 6 months ago
Was laying the flowers mandatory? Part of me would like to go to the DPRK just for the experience, but the other part of me knows that my tourist expenses would contribute to the regime.
Have you thought about that? If so, how did you reconcile it? Not trying to start a flame war, just seriously interested.
jomjines 2 years ago 2
It won't matter. If you go there, do it for the personal adventure. This regime will crumble itself. Your small amount of money won't make a difference.
aikotoba99 2 years ago 10
Yes, it was mandatory. We knew that before we left China. It's just one of the thing you have to do if you want to travel there.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
communism should end...
punkurasson 2 years ago
Sorry to tell you but that's not communsim. Turn off the Fox network.
LittlePinky82 2 years ago 3
You're exactly right. What exists in the DPRK is a pure dictatorship. It's not communism at all.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
The people control nothing and have no say in anything so that's a big reason why it's not communism.
LittlePinky82 2 years ago
bullsht.. i hate north korea for wat they did to their people...
punkurasson 2 years ago
the food we had was very good and there was plenty of it. we had meat and/or fish at each meal. in kaesong dog was available for an extra fee. we ate only in restaurants for foreigners and the food was already on the table by the time we arrived. there was no ordering except if you wanted something to drink besides water or beer. i had quite a few very expensive cokes. i think they were about $4 each. most places didn't have it though. beer was served at each meal.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
the most interesting place i've ever been. and i go to strange places for vacation.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
More or less, yes we were required to bow. I suppose I could have gotten out of it but there's no reason not to just do what they ask you to. It only took one second.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
Oh God... They got you to place flowers of honour at satan's statue?
5233andy 2 years ago 3
yes we put flowers down. it was not optional.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
This is an interesting vid! 2 questions about your accommodations:
- Did you have reason to believe that your hotel room was bugged? (I understand that journalists are sometimes told in advance that their rooms are monitored, but I am not sure about tourists.)
- Were your rooms equipped with speakers or audio devices that played patriotic music or Party speeches?
sonoki82 2 years ago
we were told and i had read that it was possible that they were bugged so we took no changes. my guide gave me his offical kim il-sung badge and i made sure not to say anything about it when we were in the hotel room. i would doubt they were bugged, but can't know for sure.
and we did not have the propaganda speakers in our hotel rooms. they save that for their people only. that's not to say we didn't get our share of propaganda while we there there. that's all we heard from our guides.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
stupid question but wanna ask anyway:
what would they do to you in you spit or slandered kim il sungs statue? send you to china or take you hostage and put you in gulag? and what would they do to you if you took off on your own without asking and went FAR? i actually heard the tour guides are bullys
MK2WiseGuy 2 years ago
wow, what was the weather like there?
daredevil335619 2 years ago
the weather in early october was warm and muggy. probably upper 70's. it rained pretty hard a couple of times while we were there.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
in all seriousness, what if you seriously had to go the bathroom, im talking bad diarrhea, do the guides wait for you outside the toilet or what?
mguer007 2 years ago
that sort of thing happened all the time. not necessarily the diarrhea, but the need to use the bathroom. yes, when one person needs to break away from the group a guide will be with you at all times under all circumstances. they just wait outside the bathroom until you're done and come out.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
Hey..how do you pick up these cute Commie Sex Kittens?
ehunter2 2 years ago
you don't. they're not allowed to speak with foreigners.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
zbyszek654, yes, you always have to be careful on countries like that because anyone can be a spy for the government. anyways what made you go there? i was in the military, so i think i couldn't go there because i might lose it and and start a war...lol
taino4281 2 years ago
its epic
Shaman1010 2 years ago
IF I WAS TO TRAVEL THERE, ALTHOUGH I RESPECT THE FACT THAT EVERY COUNTRY HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE IT OWN DESTINY, I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT MILLIONS HAVE TO DIE OF HUNGER/MURDERED BECAUSE OF A ''DEAR LEADER''. if i had to lay a wreath of flowers there i would at least in a low tone had told kim jong that i hope he is burning in hell...fuck dictators..
taino4281 2 years ago 2
yes, that's pretty much what we did. we really had no choice, we had to buy and lay flowers at the statue. although we had to be very careful what we said. if our guide even thought for a second we were being disrespectful to the great leader we would have been sent right back to china.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
wow it's almost the same as the vid they made for my tour group.
calvin396 2 years ago
Lol at the end of this video they made all those white tourist bow. How embarrassing. I would nt do that, I would ask to go home immediately. Did they make you bow? Why would anyone travel there? Its like old school communist style country its not even the cool communism like china its the bad kind.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
Every one who goes has to bow to the statue of kim il sung, just the way it is over there.
It is actually a fun and interesting place to visit.
calvin396 2 years ago
Don't you feel awkward bowing to a tyrant and mit embarrassing.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
Not really, your just doing the actions that your hosts ask you to do. It's not like it means anything.
calvin396 2 years ago
Well it just feels bit weak having to bow to some guy you dont really know.
How did they work that into the conversation? is it like BTW when you get to the statute please bow. Do they make you bow or is it if want too?
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
The tour is fully guided so you get driven to each site and the statue is one of the first places you go to. There they will ask (tell) you politely to make a bow to the statue. It dosen't take long and it's just something they want you to do. I wasn't to fussed by it and you do it in a line all at the same time not individually.
calvin396 2 years ago
well sounds like a interesting place. I dont know i thought its wierd they make you bow to a man that killed so many ppl. I thought it was illegal to travel there. I know its ilegal to travel to cuba.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
I think it is only ilegal if your american. We don't have an bars against going to places like north korea and cuba in britain.
calvin396 2 years ago
I guess england does not have travel restrictions.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
We don't, were alloud to travel any where we like. except probably places like iraq of course lol
calvin396 2 years ago
Were you worried a little bit that they might kidnap you or do something horrible and never being able to return.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
Not really as I was with a british tour company and they had been houndreds of times to the country. Plus why would the North Koreans actually want to keep me lol
calvin396 2 years ago
I dont know to slash throats of the imperialist. What attracted you to NK. You know like half the country is starving and everything you see is prompted up just for you.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
Yes I know about the food shortages in the country. They guids are actually quite open about talking about some of the food problems faced in the north korea, they called it the arduas march.
I watched team america and then looked up north korea on the internet and found i could go there, so i wasn't doing anything in april so thought I'd go.
calvin396 2 years ago
So you watched a movie and then went. Well talk about impulse controll lol. I wonder what your family said when they found out you are going to NK for a vacation.
So they didnt censor what you could say?
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
Family just laughed they know what i'm like.
They don't censor what you say but may not answer some of your questions or either lie about the answer.
Plus you can't take photo's of what ever you like you have to ask first.
We did see a lot of poverty when travelling from place to place but could not take photo's
calvin396 2 years ago
How much do the NK charge or do they just give it to you for free since they r commies?
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
they charge a lot. it was a very, very expensive 4 day trip. but totally worth it.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
I wouldn't go now. Since they are testing out nukes.
privateworldofwarft 2 years ago
I don't think I could even be a tourist there without losing my head. I'm way too stubborn to bow to the likeness of some sleazy dictator
valcaron 2 years ago
Wow interesting... thought it was dangerous... :-/
LittleBlueHeron 2 years ago
2 questions:
Where's the people
Where r the smiles?
AlefGotis 2 years ago
the people are kept away from foreigners. and there aren't a lot of smiles mostly because they don't really have anything to be happy about.
zbyszek654 2 years ago
Am I the only one disappointed at 2.49? I really thought the Dambusters theme tune was about to start, that would have been awesome.
ivabiggan2 3 years ago
Haha! That bit on .40 cracks me up.
"Our country has been called... the one thousand two hundred kilometre land of gold and tapestry..."
ivabiggan2 3 years ago
Wow ! I am glad to be a Chinese Canadian ! Good video !
BobbytheCanadiankid 3 years ago
this is crazy...going to North Korea for a vacation...but they are taking a big risk. thats all I gotta say
daredevil335619 3 years ago
i am one of the people in the video who went on vacation to north korea. what sort of "big risk" are you talking about? did you see some sort of risk happening in the video?
cheers
zbyszek654 3 years ago
Hey zb, they didn't take you to the real side of North Korea where North Koreans are suffering from the lack of food !
BobbytheCanadiankid 3 years ago
I went there on vacation too. I'm American and I didn't consider it a big risk. It was fascinating and I would love to visit again.
BaLayEunMi 2 years ago
Man,Boring music follow by boring people walking. I'm so gonna subscribe man
zroenigma 3 years ago
well it is calm in north korea
reddevilneck 3 years ago
What is their to see in North Korea? Is there anything to do the the Russo-Japanese or Sino-Japanese wars their?
lamnaa 3 years ago
There is plenty to see, but everything to do with war will be presented to you with their version of what happened, not the actual truth. It's 100% pro DPRK and anti-Japanese, American and South Korean.
zbyszek654 3 years ago
It would be interesting to see what they make of the First Sino-Japanese war, and the independence of Korea from 1895 to 1910.
lamnaa 3 years ago
Z,well thats just like in the USA..EVERYTHING about N Korea or the KIM family is negative,& the 'USA version' & never the 100% truth.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
I love the songs especially, Ban Gap Seum Ni Da, and the narrator is just great!!
tylerGo1 3 years ago
1 of 4. where's the other 3 parts?
julianppp 3 years ago
had to laugh at the peopel bowing to the statue, and there looks on there faces like "this is ridiculus"
haha i know i spelled it rong
i hope to one day travel there, only to see what its like
Dominic606A2 3 years ago
Well, he talks better english, than a french man!
gekkeline 3 years ago
all propaganda
obeseamerican 3 years ago
no, it's a video of our trip.
zbyszek654 3 years ago
i meant some of the footage from the intro.
obeseamerican 3 years ago
had to laugh at your name.
ameliabedelia99 3 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
I was there too check out my video :)
VoiceOFnatioN 3 years ago
who would go there??
chenghuwh 3 years ago
I would go there. I've been and I'd go again. I'm in this particular video. It was a great, fascinating time.
zbyszek654 3 years ago
I think I would find it interesting but seriously I couldnt go there... I hate Kim Jong ill. I am a constitutionalist marxist. But I cant stand the FAKE peoples republic of North Korea. Fuckin Kim endulges in Western luxuries all the time and starves the people to death and makes them worship him and his father like God's WTF thats not communist at all. Fuckin Hypocrite.
UltimoLatino 3 years ago
ULtimoLatino:And jus twhere is the country you forged out of a war against imperialism & 4 the working class??..hypocrite.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
Uh.... Kim didnt do that.... His daddy did to some degree with help but even he.... was corrupted by power so much so that he created a dynasty and passed political power to his kid! WTF is that there are no dynasties in real communism!
Get over yourself... that is a dictatorship/monarchy masquerading as a workers paradise.
UltimoLatino 2 years ago 3
Wtf is 'real' communism?? Communism IS what communism Does..in practice not theory
yorubablk3 2 years ago
Thats not true at all! Communism, Fascism, Democracy, Oligarchy....etc. they are all political/economic philiosphical structures. if a country professes to be communist, socialist, Democratic or whatever and yet enacts policies that are the direct antithesis to that then that country is a FAKE.
What kind of Democratic republic has rigged elections in which there is only one political figure on the ballot who just happens to be the son of the former leader? FAKE... duh!
UltimoLatino 2 years ago
Obviously a socialist democracy where the people have a single hearted unity ..& is successfully holding world imperialism at bay.That's your true objection.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
LMAO.... Please dont defend socialism... I dont need people like you making it look stupid.
I was very clear on what I object to with respect to North Korea. They are not being true to their ideology. Just one look at the fucking PALACES that they erected and the grand luxuries the elites of the country indulge in should show that a huge class divide exists in that country and its not as a result of an outside source.
UltimoLatino 2 years ago 2
They are living the reality of building,sustaining & defending actual socialism..while you are having an extended juvenile intellectual safari on something you don't live & are to impotent to successfully achieve.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
Lol... if you call making your citizens bow to every picture of you and requiring to prostrate themselves in front of huge stone idols of your parents.... all the while driving capitalist made cars.... and importing foreign luxuries for only you and the privileged class to enjoy. And at the same time jailing and killing those who speak out against your version of socialism....."actual socialism" then count me out.
Btw I thought these things "were what they do" so wtf is actual socialism? OWNED!
UltimoLatino 2 years ago
You live in this capitalist /Imperialist USA same as i do.Recently this country is at war in Iraq & Afghanistan.Since u can't stop this aggression with your pseudo socialist romanticism u are already 'counted out' in any practical way.
yorubablk3 2 years ago
Reductionist babytalk, stop trying to be scary
handofsutekh 2 years ago
It's true!
yorubablk3 2 years ago
Many people who wants to see how's life over there.
aZnch1nK916 3 years ago
i know many chinese go there for this reason and to visit the sites of korean war & memorial places, which to their surprise are not there any more.
lllWadeDucklll 3 years ago
yea they the north korean goverment, WAnts ALL tourists and everyone to bow to that stupid statue OF kin jung, or whatever his name is, its sad, because i want to go to north korea, BUT u cant talk to people, and everyone is brainwashed,i hope the leader dies, really i mean it, he opresses HIS people
FadedHolySoldier 3 years ago 2
Kim il sung already died in 1995
and will kim jong il dies, his son will take over
NDNCABOOSE 3 years ago
and he will be gay too. kim jong il loves cock
DLFerrariFan 3 years ago 2
The Narrator's voice make me feel so SICK!
martinjom 3 years ago
it's a parallel universe another vision of history and humanity even if the rest of the world totally disagree, the koreans can't compare with anything else because this is all they know and as the leader is great the country has to be great, for them they are living in the best country in the world and they believe in it strictly! that's more you can say than our countries if this life suits them and brings them to joy I can't say much more about it
TheFreak76290 3 years ago 3
propaganda country
hstmd11 3 years ago
If you look at newspapers in Korea before
1950s, you will find most characters were Chinese.
CelestialKindred 3 years ago
Im Chinese but u gotta admit they tell u 2 "relax" but how do u relax when u sleep with cameras in ur room!?
SERIOUSLY
123conman 3 years ago
Is it me? or does the narrator sound a lot like BORAT???
I like! Great success!
groovy4 3 years ago 4
If only you could eat flags and stone monuments.
LadyBirdJohnson 3 years ago 4
Hehe,great irony
880514JP 3 years ago
Hahahahahahahaha You bowed to Kim
hahahaha truly funny
banknoteslover 4 years ago
What part of bowing do you find to be so very amusing?
zbyszek654 4 years ago
is it true that if you are in that country,you could see a lot og very big establishments but all empty?,just for their sake of show off..
martinjom 3 years ago
Yes. You can try watching National Geographic channel's video about North Korea. You'd be shock about the real things happening in North Korea. Apparently, it has been rumoured that the buildings at the border are mere visages to show the SK how "good" life is in NK.
CupDeComfort 3 years ago
not a rumour - totally true - at a specific time in the evenings, all the lights in the phantom town turn on - look, we have electricity!
ameliabedelia99 3 years ago
If you came to my country, I would expect you to respect it. I decided to go to N. Korea, and while I might not agree with the way the country is run, no one forced me so it is pure ignorance to disrespect them on their own turf.
jim1985 3 years ago 3
You have to bow you idiots and if you dont they do end the tour and ur deported we are going there this year cant wait our friends went there and you must bow. buy a passport
benleacam1 4 years ago
UGH! I can't believe those stupid tourists actually put flowers by the statue and bowed to it! They are just as bad as he is. I wouldn't have done it...
Idiots
yoshirox8701 4 years ago
I am one of the "stupid tourists" that you're talking about. We did not have any choice in the matter. I do not repect the great leader in any way. However, we knew that bowing and putting flowers by the statue was required if we wanted to go there.
zbyszek654 4 years ago
No, you don't have to. They just want you to because they don't know any better. It's your choice whether you want to or not. They aren't going to end the tour just because you wouldn't bow.
yoshirox8701 4 years ago
It is required. No matter what you say, it is. They wouldn't end the tour if we didn't. They would have driven me to the airport and put me on a flight back to China. The DPRK is not the United States where one would have the option to do or not do as one pleases.
zbyszek654 4 years ago