For those of us who were there 20 years ago, this is still a very powerful song. It brought back all the memories... things we would rather forget but never forgotten.
why are the douchebags making Cui Jian's songs political, good songs are good songs, but some people just have to keep talking shit about the government. I'm sick of all the CCP-bashing comments on Cui Jian's songs.
China is still changing! However, in which direction is she heading back to the old time of Mao during which many intellectuals were persecuted!!! Or she can head in a direction of peace, prosperity, and freedom! Material accumulation is not everything! I have to respect Cui Juin for his view that he is not interested in making lot of money but more into exploring how music can change our behavior and thought!
Although I don't quite understand the theme of this "moving" song, I am very touched by the music. Is this song involved Cui Jian's protest of the June 4 1989 tragedy in China? If it is, I support the students' movement for a better China.
the critical event in 1989. everything is changing, ccp is also changing.i don't think we should complain for the history.even though it was a tragedy, today's china is more comedy. i enjoy today's china, it is a heaven to me. i don't want to say right or wrong about the event in 1989. what is a better china? to me i don't care anything except economics. who can be sure the movement was good to china? if 200,000 students sitting around white house more than 1 month, what US govern will do?
I awfully agree with you, zhaidawilliam. you don't care anything except economics. In other words, you care only money. And that's why you post a comment here and own your fifty cents.
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People who don't KNOW the modern history of china and suffering of chinese people war and western and japan invasion have NO RIGHT to criticize china's democracy and economics. CIA is behind the scene and what they want is only weaken china. CCP feed all the chinese. Do you know how hard to fulfill the need, especilly under threads from western world? CCP did it, and the chinese have a chance to make fortune to get a standard quality life. FUCKING USA and your arrogance, oh, and stupid scheme.
even your premier Wen Jiabao said it was the Chinese people who feed the army and your ccp. and you said it is ccp that feed the people. hahahaha! Chinese people are great people. without those foolish and tyranic bloodsuckers such as you so servilely praised, Chinese people would have been living a rich and dignified life for a long time.
by the way, if you and your ccp think it is too "hard to fulfill the need", why don't you just go away? why do you hold so tightly on to your power and so unwilling to let it go? it is so so amazing.
Even though I do not understand all the Chinese, I find that this song tries to unite people of all walks of life in the common cause for justice and peace! Cui Jian has composed a beautiful song!
This song is so moving to me! I do not quite understand all about the meaning of this song; however, I believe that Cui Jian (the singer?)does not view any form of violence favorably! I also share this view of nonviolence; I think humanity already have enough suffering and violence! We need to find peaceful means to solve our conflicts! This is a song that calls for peace and an end to violence!
I don't quite understand your comment! What "tyranny" regarding zhaidawilliam's comment are you talking about??? Could you explain and clarify your comment that you sent to me??
I said "哦,您是安全部的"(meaning " So you must belong to the Ministry of State Security) to zhaidawilliam not to joyofmusic88 because zhai had said "在中国我感觉比哪儿都安全"(meaning "I feel it is securer in China than in any place").
The power of this song is less chronological than symbolic.
Blowin' in the Wind was written in 1962, well before the Vietnam War, and was not even meant to be protest song (according to Bob Dylan). Yet, it's been carried all way, up to the current war.
Man,don't be so mean. I want to have more fellows back there know the truth. Simplified Chinese is for them. And also, I don't think I can defect everything I learnt from there. We should be practical.
Yes. But the fact is Cui Jian's concerts did get cancelled for his political view. He went to Tian An Men square to support students. Some Chinese government officer is too sensitive to listen to this song. : )
我看到那个蛋蛋,我承认我邪恶
wunv1989 3 months ago
聽歌...反正懂得不需要我說,不懂的,說到天老地荒還是傻子一個
osbao1995 5 months ago
时间永是流驶,街市依旧太平,有限的几个生命,在中国是不算什么的,至多,不过供无恶意的闲人以饭后的谈资,或者给有恶意的闲人作“流言”的种子。至于此外的深的意义,我总觉得很寥寥,因为这实在不过是徒手的请愿。人类的血战前行的历史,正如煤的形成,当时用大量的木材,结果却只是一小块,但请愿是不在其中的,更何况是徒手。
SAKYKUTATAKI 6 months ago
用坦克鎮壓示威者以維持統治權的政府 ,
要面對聯合國的起訴 ; 中共想等待有份鎮壓的匪徒死光了, 才讓聯合國起訴吧 !!!
davidcheung2010 7 months ago
只是純音樂就足以道出眾人心聲。
Theotinyau 7 months ago
一群傻学生...
为什么不直接去炸中南海``?
SAKYKUTATAKI 7 months ago
@SAKYKUTATAKI -.-傻學生?? 你也不一樣? 人家熱血的指為可以言論自由而已 高層怕事端擴大派兵鎮壓 還有跟中南海有啥關係? 你意思要他們去把命陪在中南海? 青年人為國家未來的棟樑 何況是大學生 你講這句話應該去對黨兵說
p123706688 6 months ago
@p123706688 跟你讲不清楚,暴力才会得到民主,跟共产党枪杆子出政权一个道理,很多人赞同甘地的非暴力手段,谁来为那么多冤死的人血偿?凡是对大陆时事 稍要关注的人都知道,现在共产党纯粹是白色恐怖?对异见人士采取高压,即使那些上访自己房子被拆了普通老百姓也不吝啬用暴力,对待暴力政权没有办法的。你和他谈民主,他和你讲国情。你跟他谈国情,他和你讲接轨。你和他谈接轨,他跟你谈政治。你和他谈政治,他跟你讲法治。你和他谈法治,他和你讲法律。你和他谈法制,他跟你耍流氓~~
SAKYKUTATAKI 6 months ago
现在看来,六四的枪真的是最后一枪。现在的中国人已经完全被利益所驱使,甚至有很多人甘心愿意为强权辩护。统治者已经熟练了不需发一枪就驾驭人的思想的手段。充满理想主义的八十年代再也不会回来
dboy4ever 9 months ago 7
@dboy4ever 共產主義 真正能實施的真的不是"人".....我只能說如果人的心智都是共同體互相能理解 那保證百分百成功...大多都是吹噓 但挺熱血不..........還是別做未來不是夢巴 我只希望你們利用完中共發展玩社建 可以讓他玩玩了這樣
p123706688 6 months ago
wow....that's an intense song. The "ohhh"...so damn powerful!
nicck 1 year ago
牛逼,真正的男人。
TheWenfang 1 year ago
《火鸟出击》 陈龙,洪金宝,刘德华 主演的电影 主题曲
baraclude 1 year ago
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国是我的国,家是我的家。不是党的国,不是党的家。还给我的国,还给我的家。不要狠心党,不要黑心妈。不要党妈妈!
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10个月之前 48 五千年的国,六十岁的妈。泱泱我中华,马列来当家。国已经不国,家也不成家。穷了咱百姓,肥了党妈妈。党妈妈有两个武器,一杆枪和一支笔。枪杆逼你把头低,笔杆说谎把人欺。党妈妈强奸民意,说我们受苦愿意。我们是它的奴隶,它说这是社会主义。
1969hwang 1 year ago
素晴らしい!心の奥底に響いたよ。
hk20jan1965 1 year ago
TODAY IS 2^6 twenty-one year passes without saying good bye
isnetit 1 year ago
好党!
victorfuts 2 years ago
天灾出人祸, 人祸源自人心。
世界要和平,社会需要详和, 人心需要和气。
社会乱象,源於人心不知足。
预防天灾的最好方法,就是净化人心。
limkarguan 2 years ago
说的是cike130
MNCHIZJ 2 years ago 3
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这鸡巴也能叫歌?我操
cike130 2 years ago
傻逼一个
MNCHIZJ 2 years ago
这才是歌 朋友
qqg17178 2 years ago 3
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yaoxilove 2 years ago
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yaoxilove 2 years ago
For those of us who were there 20 years ago, this is still a very powerful song. It brought back all the memories... things we would rather forget but never forgotten.
nuageyun 2 years ago
你说的有道理 但不全对 我认为崔健在89年以后也把这歌归为跟学运有关的歌曲了
你说如果跟学运完全无关 为什么中国发行的这一版专辑里 这首歌没有歌词(或是删掉了我记不太清了)呢?
biglaity 2 years ago
不会吧,当年我看过一个介绍,关于这首歌曲的北背景,崔健只不过是翻唱了。
yanbo1102 2 years ago
无知的人,这首歌曲是二战时期一个战士写的,表达了他的厌战情绪。
yanbo1102 2 years ago
sp视频一点也 没有反应出有反党的意思呀?不过是宣扬了临战时的悲怆心情?水她妈的陷害吹见呀 ,
tqlyzg 2 years ago
谁知掉现场版哪年唱过?
limunan 2 years ago
我的視頻有演唱版本
chinesekmt 3 years ago
我的視頻要演唱版本
chinesekmt 3 years ago
能否上有歌词的版本?
goodman528 3 years ago
我突然发现国内知名的视频网站(youku 土豆)居然找不到崔健的一块红布和最后一枪,呵呵,情况很严重,不出我所料,youtube的老崔的内容将很快遭到屏蔽,请诸位拭目以待。
weed1942 3 years ago
youtube的屏蔽很奇怪,没有规律,有时能开有时不能
9dspace 3 years ago
why are the douchebags making Cui Jian's songs political, good songs are good songs, but some people just have to keep talking shit about the government. I'm sick of all the CCP-bashing comments on Cui Jian's songs.
yyymmmrrrsss 3 years ago
China is still changing! However, in which direction is she heading back to the old time of Mao during which many intellectuals were persecuted!!! Or she can head in a direction of peace, prosperity, and freedom! Material accumulation is not everything! I have to respect Cui Juin for his view that he is not interested in making lot of money but more into exploring how music can change our behavior and thought!
joyofmusic88 3 years ago
Hello everyone,
Although I don't quite understand the theme of this "moving" song, I am very touched by the music. Is this song involved Cui Jian's protest of the June 4 1989 tragedy in China? If it is, I support the students' movement for a better China.
Peace!
joyofmusic88 3 years ago
the critical event in 1989. everything is changing, ccp is also changing.i don't think we should complain for the history.even though it was a tragedy, today's china is more comedy. i enjoy today's china, it is a heaven to me. i don't want to say right or wrong about the event in 1989. what is a better china? to me i don't care anything except economics. who can be sure the movement was good to china? if 200,000 students sitting around white house more than 1 month, what US govern will do?
zhaidawilliam 3 years ago
I awfully agree with you, zhaidawilliam. you don't care anything except economics. In other words, you care only money. And that's why you post a comment here and own your fifty cents.
im1naturer 3 years ago
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People who don't KNOW the modern history of china and suffering of chinese people war and western and japan invasion have NO RIGHT to criticize china's democracy and economics. CIA is behind the scene and what they want is only weaken china. CCP feed all the chinese. Do you know how hard to fulfill the need, especilly under threads from western world? CCP did it, and the chinese have a chance to make fortune to get a standard quality life. FUCKING USA and your arrogance, oh, and stupid scheme.
djarumtime 3 years ago
even your premier Wen Jiabao said it was the Chinese people who feed the army and your ccp. and you said it is ccp that feed the people. hahahaha! Chinese people are great people. without those foolish and tyranic bloodsuckers such as you so servilely praised, Chinese people would have been living a rich and dignified life for a long time.
im1naturer 3 years ago 12
im1naturer说得没错,的确有些人的思维混乱得很。
weed1942 3 years ago
混亂是有的,因爲像我這種海外華僑懂的很少,只是希望兩岸不要自己打自己,都是中國人。
中國一定強!
Supermokh 3 years ago
不打tw猪会服气吗?他们不是嫌大陆人穷吗?落后吗?它承认了是中国人 了 吗?去中国话?不打汉奸打谁?
tqlyzg 2 years ago
打个蛋
自己人打有什么用
一开战台湾就全毁了
请别把无知挂在嘴上
犬儒主义式的愤青很可怕
这才会亡国
biglaity 2 years ago
CCP feed the Chinese people?
你是说用三 聚 氰 胺 吗?
不过,我倒是还知道58~60间,大陆饿死了3600万人。以前也听说是三年自然灾害,但看了《墓碑》才发现,其实是各地政府放高产卫星,高征收把百姓的口粮都征没了。而且,还是有粮不放!
AHALYB 3 years ago
不客气的讲,墓碑的作者杨继绳先生之前是个共产党的党棍,之后是反共产党的党棍。他不具备治史的学养和心胸。一部墓碑充满了对历史的臆断和蒙太奇的小说手法。
metacrit 2 years ago
@im1naturer Oh yes, I am sure f the Guomindang had won the civil war, now everyone would be living a better life in China. Or maybe not.
Ilikelink 7 months ago
by the way, if you and your ccp think it is too "hard to fulfill the need", why don't you just go away? why do you hold so tightly on to your power and so unwilling to let it go? it is so so amazing.
im1naturer 3 years ago
You cheap bastard. You make me sick. Probably CCP does feed you but not us.
benlomondhz 3 years ago
I live in Taiwan and CCP feed me nothing. Don't judge anything with your fucked narrow view. It's silly.
djarumtime 3 years ago
Hello everyone!
Even though I do not understand all the Chinese, I find that this song tries to unite people of all walks of life in the common cause for justice and peace! Cui Jian has composed a beautiful song!
Let's there be peace everywhere!
joyofmusic88 3 years ago
Hello everyone!
This song is so moving to me! I do not quite understand all about the meaning of this song; however, I believe that Cui Jian (the singer?)does not view any form of violence favorably! I also share this view of nonviolence; I think humanity already have enough suffering and violence! We need to find peaceful means to solve our conflicts! This is a song that calls for peace and an end to violence!
May there be peace on earth!
joyofmusic88 3 years ago
那些埋在废墟之下的孩子不是死于地震,而是死于19年前那所谓的最后一枪的震荡。他们死去,是因为我们屈服于最后一枪的胁迫,纵容腐败肆虐。可是枪声一再一再响起,生活在暴政之下,永远不会有最后一枪。
im1naturer 3 years ago
暴政?笑话,暴在哪儿了,在中国我感觉比哪儿都安全。
zhaidawilliam 3 years ago
Hello there zhaidawilliam!
Could you please write in English so that some people who do not read Chinese can understand?? I only see a bunch of question marks as your comments!
Peace,
joyofmusic88 3 years ago
zhaidawilliam said:" tyranny? Are you kidding? where do you find tyrannic things in China? I feel this country is securer than any place."
And I replied:" So you must belong to the Ministry of State Security (of prc)."
im1naturer 3 years ago
Hello there friend,
I don't quite understand your comment! What "tyranny" regarding zhaidawilliam's comment are you talking about??? Could you explain and clarify your comment that you sent to me??
Peace,
joyofmusic88 3 years ago
哦,您是安全部的。
im1naturer 3 years ago
I said "哦,您是安全部的"(meaning " So you must belong to the Ministry of State Security) to zhaidawilliam not to joyofmusic88 because zhai had said "在中国我感觉比哪儿都安全"(meaning "I feel it is securer in China than in any place").
im1naturer 3 years ago
是啊是啊,"纵做鬼,也幸福"啊!
uofschs724 3 years ago 2
。。。。我因为同样是大陆人对你的话感到无语和羞愧
恩恩 中国不暴政 你好好在窝里活着吧
还有 我是从北京来的
biglaity 2 years ago
你好 我也是北京来的,只想告诉你中国确实不暴政, 还有我现在人在国外。
Faerie32167 2 years ago
我今年暑假就回去 还报了 新东方的课呢
暴不暴政看你怎么说了
08年摩登音乐节 何勇10多年来第一次登台
但你知道当时围了多少警察么? 就怕他又像94年那样 说不该说的话
一个民主的国家不会这样子的
我又不是20年前出来的 我知道中国现在什么样子
不暴政 但也不民主
biglaity 2 years ago
任何国家的言论自由都有不可以触犯的底线,伊拉克战争开始后被政府干预封杀或被媒体鼓动抵制的美国乐队及电影人不计其数,南方小鸡,影帝西恩潘etc而他们倒霉的原因也不过就是宣扬了反战情绪,你说这算不算是不民主呢?
Faerie32167 2 years ago
你知道有多少摇滚演出被政府和谐了么?
他们也并不是煽动什么 只是唱些真相的东西
不论是外国大牌(比如oasis)还是国内小乐队在国内演出都会受限制
滚石前年去上海演出时 荒谬到文化部制定一些歌曲不能唱
biglaity 2 years ago
我个人认为连六四事件都不敢承认的国家不算民主 韩国也有光州事件 但是被平凡了 而且当时的独裁军政府的高级官员包括总统都被判做死刑后转终身监禁
李鹏还活得好好着呢吧?
biglaity 2 years ago
只不过那不是我的观点 我并没有说对中国失去希望 只是说 还没到那个应该的火候呢 远着呢
吴邦国 两会不也说了么 中国不会存在多党制或是西方的三权鼎力 他们都没这个胆儿
和谐的国家不会天天喊着要和谐"的
这跟文化大革命喊文化大革命好 就是好是一个道理 乃此地无银三百两是也 心虚吧
biglaity 2 years ago
如果你仍然认为中国民主 我无话可说
中国有言论自由? 中国网民连youtube都上不了!
biglaity 2 years ago
呵呵我可没说中国现在民主,但"不民主"="暴政"的理论您说是不是有点武断。
Faerie32167 2 years ago
我也没说暴政 我说的是 不民主 我没说他们相等 您看错了吧
biglaity 2 years ago
呵呵 看得出您是个明事理的人 跟您讨论很愉快 不过我下周一考试要去复习了 下次再聊吧
Faerie32167 2 years ago
看样子您貌似是个摇滚乐迷,很好,但是说实话"和谐"这种现象在各国都是存在的并不是中国特色,广电总局有时候确实头脑迂腐我承认,但有些乐队的内容的确不适合在中国现今环境下播放您如果是个真乐迷应该了解。且一些乐手的对华态度就已经决定了他必须被中国政府和谐,您也不想让去年那个冰岛女士在中国的大地上高喊"西藏独立"再次上演吧?从这个角度想请您理解。
Faerie32167 2 years ago
外国艺人喜欢带政治味这很平常 但有时候我个人认为那也就是个炒作 为了显示什么什么 而且 外国艺人支持西藏独立不是他们的问题 这是西方宣传的问题 我在西藏独立问题上真的处于中立 我不相信达赖所说的 但我也不认为共产党在西藏就那么干净 你知道文革的时候 布达拉宫差点毁了么?
biglaity 2 years ago
说64,这个问题太复杂,地球上没有人可以用简单的言语把它说清楚。政府机器镇压公民的确不对,但是公民变成暴民造成事实上的社会混乱也不可取。到底是中共铁血还是大部分群众被某些势力利用而在这场事件中负主要责任,你我都没有确凿证据来说明。现在我们关心的重点应该是如何让这种惨剧不再发生您说对么?
Faerie32167 2 years ago
我不相信群众被谁利用 那是共产党胡说 只能说当时80年代的中国人思想还没到一步登天到民主的程度 不成熟的操作 加上共产党独裁体制本身的漏洞 才造成了最后流血的结果 实话跟你说 我以前愤青的要命 想法总会一面倒 但我现在看问题真不会那样了 我不会相信西方 也不会完全相信中国了 通过各种信息自己做判断我想才对
biglaity 2 years ago 2
让悲剧不再发生的第一个问题就是承认他发生过
中国在六四问题上跟日本右翼掩盖侵华事实 没有任何区别 我们有什么理由要求日本人呢
根本都没有做到 先正其身
biglaity 2 years ago 2
可以确定的只是解放军杀了老百姓,老百姓也杀了解放军并且喊出了反政府的口号,现在中国政府所谓"平反"64的确不到时候因为这等于承认了反政府有理反中共有理,谁当了领导也不可贸然做这种抽自己耳光的决定。不然造成的只会是更大的社会动荡和价值观混乱。呵呵 至于文革 您就放中共一马吧 他们已经认错了。
Faerie32167 2 years ago
对 反政府口号 所以我说那是中国当时的群众还不够那么水平 想事情不够成熟 想要一步登天 但是也用不着开枪吧? 一帮破学生 平的了你一个大党么? 说说罢了 学生跪在人民大会堂前情愿 所谓高层们散会后视而不见 他们还算是所谓人民的代表么?
biglaity 2 years ago 14
六四实际上是一群群疯狂的学生,和一个疯狂的政府.学生们没有统一的组织,具体的目地,只是不停的占领的天安门广场,一批学生回去了,另一批又来了.一个领导者站这里,另外还有十个站另一边,学生只顾发泄不满.国家稳定安全和经济已经严重受到影响.
当时有个不好的事是中国没有过这种经验,没有摧泪瓦斯,没有象皮子弹,64过后就建立了防暴部队.
c3333333335 2 years ago
学生是有组织的!有国外和一些非大陆地区地方政府的支持的!
学生是疯狂的,政府最后清场是应该的,换任何国家都会这么做!
wuaixue 2 years ago
谁给你说只是一帮破学生!
没人支持吾尔开溜跑的了吗!
wuaixue 2 years ago
就算有外国人支持又是怎样 最初发动运动的不还就是这帮破学生么?
biglaity 2 years ago
还假了吧唧的说自己是父母官 不都是为了钱 卢武铉家里人贪污了 但人家到底是个汉子 有觉悟 人家跳崖了 而我们中国人呢 不说大陆 就说台湾 你看那傻逼阿扁 装死装活的 敢做不敢当 没骨气! 但好得人家台湾人还去查 人家至少有半个民主 而我们 我从没听说哪个贪官畏罪自杀的 无不是为自己辩护 狡辩 似乎贪污是理所应当的事情 这种道德沦丧的社会有什么希望可讲?
biglaity 2 years ago
你没听说只能说明没让你知道而已
你也不肯能听说说有的事情
那我怎么听说过有的落马官员后悔不已,自觉对不起人民对不起党和国家的培养能(以前《楚天都市报》有过这样的报道)
wuaixue 2 years ago
我承认美国民主选举很劳民伤财但人家那是真才实料 这比走后门当官好得多 而且还不为民做事 跟封建社会有啥区别? 太子党国内还不是一大片一大片的
我也没有盲目反对他? 但要改变 还是那句话 你得先承认自己所犯的错误 这是根本!
biglaity 2 years ago
请问 新闻联播播过哪个贪官的故事么?
不总是报喜不报忧的么?
biglaity 2 years ago
独裁国家贪官都多 这不可避免 是制度的问题
biglaity 2 years ago
想进步? 先从认错开始吧 政府建立诚信才是最重要的 天天要求日本人承认错误(当然这是另一回事情 日本人本身也没有诚信) 但是我们自己也不敢承认自己所犯得错啊 我们和日本人有什么区别? 而且我觉得更窝囊 好得日本人是侵略者 我们才是被屈辱的 而且还杀自己人!
biglaity 2 years ago
请别拿日本比,没有可比性!
wuaixue 2 years ago
不能这样说 日本虽然欠我们中国但你不得不承认他们很厉害 至少近代的日本是! 人家兜里可比我们有钱! 北美的汽车一半儿是美国制造 一半儿是日本制造 中国在哪里?中国歼十的发动机都是俄罗斯进口的! 不敢和日本比是因为没有自信!
biglaity 2 years ago
日本人再混蛋 但他们知道拿来主义 很可惜我们这个地大物博 资源辽阔的国家却没意识到! 不要拿唐朝说事 那是过去 现在的中国一切是从零开始
biglaity 2 years ago
我们地大,但物不博,资源也不丰富,因为我们有13亿人!
我也没拿唐朝说事!
你说的一切从零开始,我十分认同,正是因为如此我们有很多问题。
我们要监督政府,也许现在我们的力量有限,但是请不要因为一点挫折就放弃政府,不信任他!
wuaixue 2 years ago
抱歉 地大物博我本来要打引号的 现在被过度不科学开采滥用的确实不是地大物博了 我爸爸说几十年前的地理课本上就会这么写 中国是个地大物博的国家 也不是说不信任 我只是觉得应该持官网态度 我相信政府即使是集团独裁 但意图是好的 谁不想治理好国家 但如果想要寻求真正跨越式的改变 还得从根上来啊
biglaity 2 years ago
从量变到质变是有一个过程的,如果变的太快就会出问题。
就好像人得了病,不能马上大补,要慢慢调养,这个道理是相通的。
wuaixue 2 years ago
@biglaity 一帮破学生 :-D
恩。我觉得你说得实在,也在理。
edenwithlove 1 year ago
@biglaity 说的在理!!!! 只是到了最后,有些不理智的人焚烧军车,打军警,才给别人镇压的借口! 并把自己头半段的努力的成果全部葬送掉
zd198901 7 months ago
@biglaity 想要自由言論阿 對於獨裁政權(法西斯 共產)來說 就是一步登天.....如果只靠黨思維來做決定 必定冷血無情
如果有人性同情的思想那人一定被黨批鬥到死 我說說這句話對不對
p123706688 6 months ago
好 那既然如此 按您的逻辑 日本政府不承认侵华 也对就是了? 因为承认了就是给自己耳光对吧?会引起国民的恐慌?造成社会动荡?
biglaity 2 years ago 3
我没在中国上过高中 不知道高中课本怎么讲文革
但是初中课本里 关于文革有3页纸 讲日本鬼子有至少30多页
文革10年 抗战8年 您觉得这比例对么?
biglaity 2 years ago 4
解放军杀的是杀人犯,是暴民,理所当然!
wuaixue 2 years ago
youtube上有太多的虚假的东西,尤其是关于六四的,成年人都被迷惑,不能让学生看见,这是应该的
wuaixue 2 years ago
虚假东西那么多你还来看什么 而且既然你是成年人 应该有辨别是非的能力了 好就是好不好就是不好 天朝就是天天这样模棱两可才什么也搞不好 承认个六四 就会被推翻么? 我就不信了 自己都做不到诚信 怎么要求老百姓诚实 难怪贪官哪里都是 老百姓人人爱钱 拜金主义社会 社会伦理道德全失 毛泽东用文革把旧的东西都除掉了 却没建起任何新的东西来
biglaity 2 years ago
我不看怎么知道这是虚假的!
六四的发生和东欧巨变有着一样的历史背景,看多了民运的视频就是你这种思想。
所以我理解国内封youtube!
wuaixue 2 years ago
谁也没天天看这个! 但至少在国外我可以看到我想看到的东西!在国内 对不起 你没这个权利! 何来言论自由这说儿?
那你就理解吧 如果说愿意做奴隶不反抗也算自由的话 那我无话可说
东欧和六四是有关系 所以呢? 89 90 苏联解体 所以间接影响了中国 你的论点是什么?
biglaity 2 years ago
就说崔健 中国摇滚乐的启蒙人之一了吧 为什么中国自己造不出一种音乐让我们这些年轻人来听呢? 为什么我们现在听得是摇滚不是民乐呢? 因为政府根本就没对自身文化这方面关心 每个当官的只顾着自己的政绩! 就拿我老家青岛 天天修路然后又挖开 然后又修路 从小到大一直如此 每次修路我就知道 要造什么所谓新项目了 创造什么政绩了 没有人真正为老百姓照相
biglaity 2 years ago
听摇滚和听民乐没有冲突
摇滚乐是属于全世界的
民乐也是属于全世界的
任何人都可以欣赏
你说的一些政府问题我也很愤怒
但是我想到的是如何去改变他
而不是去盲目的反对他
wuaixue 2 years ago
但问题在于 大街上都是糜烂的流行音乐 这不才是西洋真正传来的垃圾么? 为什么无人发展中国这些传统的东西? 为什么文化部从来不做点实事?为什么太极 中医 端午这些东西都被高丽棒子拿走了? 理由很简单 政府不发展这些因为他们不能带来短期效益(譬如经济效益) 但他们忘了这些才是叫做Root的东西! 中国现在缺的不就是本么?
biglaity 2 years ago
你说的这些我认同
但是我们在改变
希望你能看见改变的地方
wuaixue 2 years ago
晕 我又不是生在这里的。说我跟外国人似的。我今年暑假就回北京和青岛呢。只是觉得出国两年 有些想法确实会改变的 以前感觉是蒙上了眼。。有种被骗的感觉。不管怎么说 对自己的国家有希望 那是肯定的 谁都会希望自己的国家越来越壮大
biglaity 2 years ago
我也在国外 时间长了你就明白了 你现在没工作吧 有人就有江湖 别觉得他们真的干净 只是你在上学所以不了解
CLORIANN 2 years ago
我也没说他们特别干净 我只是说政府不承认错误不是个好事儿。。至少说明不诚实
当然哪里都不是天堂 我其实一点儿都喜欢北美 除了能看演出之外。。民族间的隔阂还是太深了 你就是呆的再长也融不进当地啊
biglaity 2 years ago
我觉得有一天会认错的 今天之所以还没有 是因为现在的条件可能还不允许 因为如果为六四平反 绝对不光光是一句话的事
CLORIANN 2 years ago
恩 说得对 时机还不成熟吧 早晚会有那一天的
biglaity 2 years ago
不用说工作 我就现在在学校上学 就发现了很多垃圾老师 最垃圾的就是个美国人
biglaity 2 years ago
我只能说那是一种经济改良,为的是什么,是为了维护其统治。就像清政府一样
yaoxilove 2 years ago
制度也在改善 不要光说专政 现在有很多无党籍的高级干部
CLORIANN 2 years ago
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但那说明不了本质问题,反倒让人感觉这是种罕见的现象,而这种现象的出现是否是共产党的集/权统/治开始瓦解了呢?朝鲜共产国可没这种现象,中国这个挂羊头卖狗肉的共产国出现这种现象又是什么情况呢?比如说虽然卖狗肉,但还是羊头这个招牌带给这家店主人的利益嘛
yaoxilove 2 years ago
无党籍的高级干部?我还真的挺感兴趣,能具体说说有谁吗?
kenns29 2 years ago
工业部的部长就是无党籍的 网上能查到简历 国外留学然后在国外汽车公司做高层 其实还有很多 现在航天部门也是招各界的管理和技术人员 哪怕是外国人 反正是这么说的
CLORIANN 2 years ago
中央的部委很多都负责技术理论指导 所以无论哪个部门的领导 也都是学者或者很有经验的 不是混吃混喝就能干的 包括电子地质经济能源什么的 当然地方的干部无党籍就少 你要说国家领导人那就更只能是共产党的了
CLORIANN 2 years ago
你自己主页上的话中国是个法治国家 ,我的言论自由受法律保护并由法律约束!
扯淡吧。。。中国也是我的祖国 但你总这样想 中国永远不能进步
你知道王小波和李银河么?他们做过中国同性恋调查 结果没有地方敢发表 但这个问题确实存在 不说政治 就连这种伦理道德问题都不敢碰! 言论自由?民主? 大陆差远了了。。。慢慢儿来吧 爱国不是你这个方法爱的
biglaity 2 years ago
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@wuaixue youtube上有太多的虚假的东西,尤其是关于六四的,成年人都被迷惑,不能让学生看见,这是应该的 @wuaixue 五毛兄 您好 草泥马 的 狗逼 全家不得好死
isnetit 1 year ago
美国有Green Day
biglaity 2 years ago
最后一枪
崔健
一颗流弹打中我的胸膛
刹那间往事涌在我的心上
只有泪水没有悲伤
如果这是最后一枪
我愿接受这莫大的荣光
哦哦,最后一枪
哦哦,最后一枪
linwen778 3 years ago
90年在他的演唱会上,当他唱起了《最后一枪》,人们配合着举着打火机,还用手指比成V字型,气氛完全变了,而这时候老崔说"希望去年听到的枪声,是最后一枪",然后他在北京就再也没有开演唱会的permit了 难道你一定要老崔在接受cctv采访的时候说: 我认为天安门屠杀是不可接受的?
leoyue 3 years ago 2
a powerful song
rocketshan 4 years ago
1988年这首歌就公开演唱过了
非要拉来和天安门扯上关系的人也真够弱智的
chendejian 4 years ago
The power of this song is less chronological than symbolic.
Blowin' in the Wind was written in 1962, well before the Vietnam War, and was not even meant to be protest song (according to Bob Dylan). Yet, it's been carried all way, up to the current war.
zhaji02 4 years ago
但是只要听到这首歌,只要是了解那段历史的人,不管怎样都会联想到天安门事件,不是吗
mars19841031 4 years ago
never forget june 4 massacre!!!
Sinanthropus 4 years ago
我感动了.
zzu1 4 years ago
不会忘记六四--一九八九。。。。
老崔,是好样的。。。。。
fukcCCP 4 years ago
可怜的中国大陆人。
wangxiang1025 4 years ago
I know little about the political background of this song, but I dislike ur comment.
zhouyier 4 years ago
Poor homeless guy, why do you still write in Simplified Chinese?
CuiJianFans 4 years ago
Man,don't be so mean. I want to have more fellows back there know the truth. Simplified Chinese is for them. And also, I don't think I can defect everything I learnt from there. We should be practical.
fukcCCP 4 years ago
probably few people would understand how much guts it took to make a song like this back then.
windforce2007 4 years ago 2
不知道有多少话还没讲
不知道有多少人和我一样
不知道有多少个最后一枪
安睡在这温暖的土地上
朝露夕阳花木自芬芳
哦······只有一句话留在这世上
一颗流弹打中我的胸膛
刹那间往事涌在我心上
哦······最后一枪 哦······最后一枪
weed1942 4 years ago 4
一颗流弹打中我的胸膛
刹那间往事涌在我心上
哦······只有泪水 哦······没有悲伤
如果这是最后的一枪
我愿接受这莫大的荣光
哦······最后一枪 哦······最后一枪
weed1942 4 years ago
PSBJ, you are right. The complete version of this song can be found in movie 火烧岛 (by Jacky Cheng and Liang Jiahui).
CuiJianFans 4 years ago
This song was written for the 79's war, but some guys kept saying that this song was for 6.4 event.
psbj 4 years ago
Yes. But the fact is Cui Jian's concerts did get cancelled for his political view. He went to Tian An Men square to support students. Some Chinese government officer is too sensitive to listen to this song. : )
CuiJianFans 4 years ago
This is the 'simplified' version (more music but less singing). There is another version which he sings with most of the music.
psbj 4 years ago
This song is really good.
pulaudan 4 years ago
Simply the best!!!!
MovieBoxOffice 4 years ago