Tarantino is overrated. Pulp Fiction was okay, but his films are mainly artifice - with no substance. Kill Bill is a great example of the latter sentiment; just a lot of silliness and stupidity. Reservoir Dogs was another letdown; I thought it was supposed to be BETTER than Pulp Fiction?! It wasn't ...
@bradominus1 ...nothing he does is "ok"..its either loved, hated or misunderstood, and his brilliance (in Cannes, in particular) speaks for itself. Pulp Fiction was disliked when he won the Palm d'Or. He is beyond a commercial director with commercial appeal (Spielberg) he is THE artist/entrepreneur/enthusiast and auteur director of this generation. Arguably, the more mature director of his ilk is P.T. Anderson (Boogie Nights, There will be Blood).
@bradominus1 I would like to know what you consider good movies if you think that Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill weren't good? It seems that you just have poor taste.
Bullshit. Pulp Fiction had a lot of suspense. It just wasn't the generic usage of dramatic orchestrated music playing in the background. The diner scene at the end had too good of dialogue to say he could never master suspense. That scene was mainly dialogue, and scenes with mainly dialogue tend to use that as it's "music" for suspense. Films with more going on, on the other hand, rely on music.
@Transformers2themax Mabye, but i understand what the critic was saying. Pulp fiction and Reservoir Dogs wasnt directed by a "master of suspence", not that there is anything wrong with it, but it wasnt that type of movie.
@msinummoc Oh, no doubt. They weren't very suspenseful films. I was just illustrating that there were at least substitutes there for the music and so on and so on. The Mexican standoff in Reservoir Dogs as well as the one in Pulp Fiction...they didn't need sinister music playing. It was nail-biting. You almost felt unsettled, wondering when someone trigger finger would slip. Kill Bill, Death Proof, and Inglourious Basterds, on the other hand, are very suspenseful.
@Transformers2themax Feeling unsettled about finger sliping is more suspensfull for me than actally something else in terms of action with huge background music (Hans Zimmer style)
@McSamize Well, I think music can work with a film. It's just that, along with the music industry, film score composers have kind of gone down the drain. I respect John Williams, even though I find him overrated, but the last film I believe actually having a unique score was Blade Runner, which I already would consider a masterpiece. I wouldn't compare him to the brilliance of Kubrick and his use of classical music, but Tarantino certainly is clever in the soundtrack department.
@Transformers2themax I like his scoring in Schindler's List, it was brilliant. Anyway, the director that get's music to it's full potential for me is Guy Ritchie. Those combos of power-cuts followed by music is just brilliant.
@McSamize Eh...His only good film is Sherlock Holmes. Other than that, he doesn't really use any music intelligently. Tarantino's about the only filmmaker these days who knows how to use music properly. Guy Ritchie's just obsessed with being some kind of psychological artist, which he never will be. He practically stereotypes intelligence with his films.
@Transformers2themax That's your point of view. If you watched Snatch, there is a lot going on in my opinion about music, it's like the type of track determins the mood of the scene and it's done quite nice.
@McSamize Well, to be honest I have not seen that one. I've only seen Revolver, Rock 'n' Rolla, and Sherlock Holmes and Holmes was the only one I enjoyed...In fact, I thought it was very intelligent...All I know about the way music is used in Guy Ritchie films, from the ones that I've seen, is that it's usually used in a very silly, melodramatic fashion as if it's trying to be cool and clever or something but it's not...I died laughing at exactly that in Revolver. Snatch could be different.
@Transformers2themax Well, I think I saw all except the one with Madonna (bitch can't act I suppose), and that said, if I had to make a list of his movies those two would 5th and 6th place out of 6. Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels followed by Snatch are just brilliant. Trust me. And if you watch them one after another you will see those little things he uses to make his own signature on them. Just like Tarantino does (close foot shots, from trunk shot, corpse POV shot, Cahuna Burger...)
@McSamize Really, to me, the most amazing use of music in cinema history was with 2001: A Space Odyssey and A Clockwork Orange. It glues the music in your head and you can't help but think of his films when you hear the music. It's as if it was scored for the film...As a matter of fact, I find the way the monolith theme is used to be absolutely brilliant. That is probably the most frighteningly suspenseful scene in cinema history for me. It's more chilling when in presence of the unknown.
@Transformers2themax I have to say I watched A Clockwork Orange for the first time few weeks ago, and I find it nice, love the narration, and god, I love the use of music. Ninth is so contemporary :)
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thejoker9998 3 days ago
Tarantino is overrated. Pulp Fiction was okay, but his films are mainly artifice - with no substance. Kill Bill is a great example of the latter sentiment; just a lot of silliness and stupidity. Reservoir Dogs was another letdown; I thought it was supposed to be BETTER than Pulp Fiction?! It wasn't ...
bradominus1 2 months ago
@bradominus1 ...nothing he does is "ok"..its either loved, hated or misunderstood, and his brilliance (in Cannes, in particular) speaks for itself. Pulp Fiction was disliked when he won the Palm d'Or. He is beyond a commercial director with commercial appeal (Spielberg) he is THE artist/entrepreneur/enthusiast and auteur director of this generation. Arguably, the more mature director of his ilk is P.T. Anderson (Boogie Nights, There will be Blood).
SuperOmnicron 2 months ago
@bradominus1 I would like to know what you consider good movies if you think that Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill weren't good? It seems that you just have poor taste.
VJWU 2 months ago
Bullshit. Pulp Fiction had a lot of suspense. It just wasn't the generic usage of dramatic orchestrated music playing in the background. The diner scene at the end had too good of dialogue to say he could never master suspense. That scene was mainly dialogue, and scenes with mainly dialogue tend to use that as it's "music" for suspense. Films with more going on, on the other hand, rely on music.
Transformers2themax 4 months ago 9
@Transformers2themax Mabye, but i understand what the critic was saying. Pulp fiction and Reservoir Dogs wasnt directed by a "master of suspence", not that there is anything wrong with it, but it wasnt that type of movie.
msinummoc 3 months ago
@msinummoc Oh, no doubt. They weren't very suspenseful films. I was just illustrating that there were at least substitutes there for the music and so on and so on. The Mexican standoff in Reservoir Dogs as well as the one in Pulp Fiction...they didn't need sinister music playing. It was nail-biting. You almost felt unsettled, wondering when someone trigger finger would slip. Kill Bill, Death Proof, and Inglourious Basterds, on the other hand, are very suspenseful.
Transformers2themax 3 months ago
@Transformers2themax Feeling unsettled about finger sliping is more suspensfull for me than actally something else in terms of action with huge background music (Hans Zimmer style)
McSamize 1 month ago
@McSamize Well, I think music can work with a film. It's just that, along with the music industry, film score composers have kind of gone down the drain. I respect John Williams, even though I find him overrated, but the last film I believe actually having a unique score was Blade Runner, which I already would consider a masterpiece. I wouldn't compare him to the brilliance of Kubrick and his use of classical music, but Tarantino certainly is clever in the soundtrack department.
Transformers2themax 1 month ago
@Transformers2themax I like his scoring in Schindler's List, it was brilliant. Anyway, the director that get's music to it's full potential for me is Guy Ritchie. Those combos of power-cuts followed by music is just brilliant.
McSamize 1 month ago
@McSamize Eh...His only good film is Sherlock Holmes. Other than that, he doesn't really use any music intelligently. Tarantino's about the only filmmaker these days who knows how to use music properly. Guy Ritchie's just obsessed with being some kind of psychological artist, which he never will be. He practically stereotypes intelligence with his films.
Transformers2themax 1 month ago
@Transformers2themax That's your point of view. If you watched Snatch, there is a lot going on in my opinion about music, it's like the type of track determins the mood of the scene and it's done quite nice.
McSamize 1 month ago
@McSamize Well, to be honest I have not seen that one. I've only seen Revolver, Rock 'n' Rolla, and Sherlock Holmes and Holmes was the only one I enjoyed...In fact, I thought it was very intelligent...All I know about the way music is used in Guy Ritchie films, from the ones that I've seen, is that it's usually used in a very silly, melodramatic fashion as if it's trying to be cool and clever or something but it's not...I died laughing at exactly that in Revolver. Snatch could be different.
Transformers2themax 1 month ago
@Transformers2themax Well, I think I saw all except the one with Madonna (bitch can't act I suppose), and that said, if I had to make a list of his movies those two would 5th and 6th place out of 6. Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels followed by Snatch are just brilliant. Trust me. And if you watch them one after another you will see those little things he uses to make his own signature on them. Just like Tarantino does (close foot shots, from trunk shot, corpse POV shot, Cahuna Burger...)
McSamize 4 weeks ago
@McSamize Really, to me, the most amazing use of music in cinema history was with 2001: A Space Odyssey and A Clockwork Orange. It glues the music in your head and you can't help but think of his films when you hear the music. It's as if it was scored for the film...As a matter of fact, I find the way the monolith theme is used to be absolutely brilliant. That is probably the most frighteningly suspenseful scene in cinema history for me. It's more chilling when in presence of the unknown.
Transformers2themax 1 month ago
@Transformers2themax I have to say I watched A Clockwork Orange for the first time few weeks ago, and I find it nice, love the narration, and god, I love the use of music. Ninth is so contemporary :)
McSamize 4 weeks ago
I know that when I was watching "Inglorious Basterds" I thought that that was
the most suspenseful movie I had ever seen.
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