First of all he was in a preserve for the bears. No body was poaching them. He wasn't a researcher. He was a manic depressive with visions of grandeur.He was courting death and took his girlfriend with him. She had been 3 times with him and they were both aware they might die there. He was just plain ole lucky. Be careful what you wish for.....
@downy62 It takes a lot more than plain old luck to survive 12 summers in bear territory, don't you think? I'm sure he knew what he was doing. But, bears aren't humans and he didn't understand them fully and obviously it didn't work too well for him in the 13th summer. Even still, to say he was plain old lucky would be utterly wrong, imo. How many humans you know that would encounter bears for even one day, let alone one summer, let alone 12 summers, and still be alive? Luck???????
You need to stop quoting grizzlypeople propaganda about how impressive Tim's survival was.
He went when the bear were fat and lazy for 12 good growing seasons and got out before the bear went into the hyper fall feed. The 13th year he stayed too long after a bad season and became the secondary food source that the bear always looked at him as. Your last sentence is just idiotic, very few humans who encounter bear get attacked and/or killed. Treadwell was a fraud and a liar, as well.
He also took 11 bear with him by removing their fear of man and making them dependent upon him for food. He also committed fraud to get funding for his summer vacations. Thank God that bad season came when it did or Treadwell would still be out there fucking up the Coastal Brown population.
There's a reason that Treadwell's cronies demanded that most of the informational about his demise and all footage not aired or in the film be returned to them: To cover up the fraud that he was.
@BiohazardCrow black bear no doubt... but a grizzly... i dunno... Them mothers are fucking huge.. and could kill a man with ease... you would have to be very... very very lucky..
Anyone hunting grizzlies with a .308, had better place his shot exactly, or he will be killed by an angry, wounded bear. Disregarding the AK47 suggestion, one would be well-advised to bring some heavy artillery, to wit: a .300 magnum, a .375 Weatherby magnum, or a .458 Winchester. And have someone backing you up armed with a 12 gauge with rifled slugs. If you must kill one of these magnificent creatures, aim for the shoulder, the hump, or if you've got the guts, the eye.
If a bear is in a good/curious mood it might work well, but if the bear is in attack mode, bear spray don't work that well. People who are in bear country should carry a gun and bear spray. Pull the right one out for the right situation.
I live near woods where you can find many bears in my country. In europe we dont need guns, like you do. I went to school every morning at 6AM through that wood and i have seen them(bears)many times. They do not attack if you don't get any closer. was always very loud when i knew they were near.They are not very dangerous.They need the place to live, but man comes to his territory. And i think the "legend - Grizzly man- he was an idiot. Ask real americans-ancient indians,they know those animals
If a bear was going to eat me, I'd use a 20 round 308 carbine and shoot it in the neck, head, and chest. Knives or handguns wont do anygood when fighting grizzlies. You'll just wound the animal or aggrivate it. Bear spray is useless when there is too much wind and it might even get in your own face and burn ur eyes. Best weapon against bear is a AK47 or 308 carbine. Something that has a lot of rounds and is strong.
@traiter82 An AK47 is for the 'spray and pray' crowd who hope that if they fire enough ammo something will stick. Best gun on a large bear in my opinion is a 300 Weatherby. One well-placed bullet from that gun will knock the biggest grizzly on his ass. The old time hunters used double rifles, mostly .500 Jeffery. The .505 Gibbs was popular also in the old days and used by Ernest Hemingway in Africa. If you need a cannon get a 460 Weatherby with 8000 ft/lbs of force when it hits.
@mikethebike7 Agreed trophy hunting is pretty sick. I've fired some of these guns on targets, but I'm not a hunter myself and don't shoot anything living. My comments were based largely on historical references from times when people actually NEEDED to kill large predators for self-preservation or the preservation of others. Case in point: James Corbett killed a dozen man-eating tigers in India that had collectively killed more than 1500 human beings. Was he a "jerkoff asshole" for doing so?
@traiter82 traiter you cant spell traitor, and you can't spell aggravate. Furthermore, if you were informed, you would know that pepper spray is considered as or more effective a defense against an attacking bear as a firearm. You can easily miss with a firearm, or with the brown bears great bulk and vitality EASILY miss a shot that will drop him before he can rip you up pretty fucking badly. A pepper fogger makes it difficult to miss, and it is very effective.
What a idiot moron who thinks any AK 47 or a 308 is the best gun for use on 1000 Pound Plus Alaskan bears !
I am a Alaskan guide who guides hunters for these bears, let me tell all the AK 47 loving punk Idiots the smallest of rifles us Alaskan's use for bears is a 338 Winchester mag and that is a minimum we use for Alaskan bears !
Best Alaskan bear guns are 9.3x62 mm - 375H&H - 416 Remington 416 Rugby - 458 Win mag .
The AK 47 7.62x39 Russian has less power than a 30-30 Winchester !
@Moldovawineimporter AK with 30 armor piercing rnds, Saiga 12 ga with 20 armor P slugs, and 308 with 20 armor P rnd is better than all your guns against brown bear. Your guns are too slow for a charging bear at 3 feet. Your guns are strong, but slow. You need speed, penetration, and at least to be a 30 cal. Only shoot head, lungs, shoulder, spine. Ak does have less power, but very good penetration with a FMJ or AP rnd. Powerful + slow gun is not a good choice if you bump into a bear 3 ft away
@Moldovawineimporter You have 50 years experience in murder? Must make your family proud.....sad that you are that old and still don't understand how awful your life is. Hopefully the end comes sooner for you and you get thrown in the fire of hell, or just don't come back in any way, shape, or form! Useless hunters!
@Moldovawineimporter Your guns are good for hunting, but not for self defense against a bear while alone in the woods. Hunting, you have time to aim and kill. When you bump into a charging bear thats 3 ft away, you'll need lots of firepower like the guns I mentioned. Imagine being in a cage with a bear and only have 3 secs to grab a gun and shoot, would you grab the AK with 30 rnds of AP or your long bolt/lever high power gun that probably only has about 1-4 rnds and is very slow? Ponder on this
@traiter82 Or, how about simply not going anywhere and bothering one of nature's premier beasts? Just a thought since you deserve what you get when you go in an animals habitat. Isn't the land we occupy enough? AK 47 would be my weapon of choice on you.....
well chuck norris would stand there and shed a tear for the bear. the bear seeing chucks tears would be saddened and depressed and wander off to go kill itself in shame. That's how powerful chuck norris's tears are. They also are said to cure cancer. but chuck rarely if never cries.
actually your correct chuck norris would stand there but he wouldnt shed a tear, the mere thought of the roundhouse the bear would get frightened the bear to sucide. chuck norris's tears are proven scientifically to cure all types of cancer...But he NEVER has cried.
@PaiLung never has a response been filled with so much insight yet chuck norris wouldn't even tear up even if he killed everyone in the world including his mother but one can think science fictionlike.
Well, he did kill bear, LMH, 9 in total. The original 2 that ate him, 2 more that winter starved during hibernation because they had come to be dependant on Treadwell for food, and 5 more that were shot because Treadwell removed their natural fear of man.
I'm so glad that the selfish cocksucker didn't want to kill any of the bear, he ended up doing just that, regardless.
Only idiots admire and emulate this dumb fuck for "doing what he wanted to."
this guy cared for some foxes and i heard he killed a wolf cus killed one of the foxes. that aint right. its nature. i love foxes but wolves more but i meen even if a fox killed a wolf its the circle of life
In that respect, Treadwell did make a difference, albeit a dubious one. And it is a shame that some people in the same mindset as him, will profit by keeping the myth of a socially inept manic-depressive alive.
It is sad, but I mean, he lived with Bears. While he got some amazing footage and photographs, he was still dealing with wild animals that are unpredictable no matter how much you're around them. And I guess he got over confident in his abilities to apporach a Bear. I mean, from what I understand, he got brutalized by that Bear. I imagine the footage is pretty horrific, especially since Bears are so massive and ferocious when they attack. Not a pretty site, look as the man who got his face torn.
he smoked weed, his eyes were always puffy.... he thought he culd just walk next to a bear and befriend it.. he obviously did nto know anything about it.. and yes tehre are audio of it.... its gruesome..... i wanna see the video...
Yes Treadwell made a difference, he made every little child that watched his story believe you can walk up to a wild animal and just touch it. The other side of his story will not be aired however. The real results will only be known by a few people who stand to profit in someway by keeping this myth alive.
Timoth treadwell just like all the other animal rigths actvist in this world are FUCKING IDOTS. they think that animals are humans to and they are not, they are WILD ANAIMALS. Of course aniaml rights actvist think that bear didn't do anything wrong they think that the bear DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER this is bull shit. Give the animals rights then what so we can put the bear on trial for murder. I guess the bear didnt think that he need treadwells protection.
For the love of God. Where can I hear the audio or see the video of their gruesome deaths??? Surely there are hundreds of youtube trolls who possess this information!!!
You can't hear the audio of their deaths.... The tape is in the custody of Jewel Polovak who will never release it to the public.... There are no copies 'floating around the internet' as some would like us to believe.
Lol I know kingcollie
anna101ful 1 year ago
First of all he was in a preserve for the bears. No body was poaching them. He wasn't a researcher. He was a manic depressive with visions of grandeur.He was courting death and took his girlfriend with him. She had been 3 times with him and they were both aware they might die there. He was just plain ole lucky. Be careful what you wish for.....
downy62 1 year ago
@downy62 It takes a lot more than plain old luck to survive 12 summers in bear territory, don't you think? I'm sure he knew what he was doing. But, bears aren't humans and he didn't understand them fully and obviously it didn't work too well for him in the 13th summer. Even still, to say he was plain old lucky would be utterly wrong, imo. How many humans you know that would encounter bears for even one day, let alone one summer, let alone 12 summers, and still be alive? Luck???????
mousavsm 6 months ago
@mousavsm
You need to stop quoting grizzlypeople propaganda about how impressive Tim's survival was.
He went when the bear were fat and lazy for 12 good growing seasons and got out before the bear went into the hyper fall feed. The 13th year he stayed too long after a bad season and became the secondary food source that the bear always looked at him as. Your last sentence is just idiotic, very few humans who encounter bear get attacked and/or killed. Treadwell was a fraud and a liar, as well.
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@downy62
He also took 11 bear with him by removing their fear of man and making them dependent upon him for food. He also committed fraud to get funding for his summer vacations. Thank God that bad season came when it did or Treadwell would still be out there fucking up the Coastal Brown population.
There's a reason that Treadwell's cronies demanded that most of the informational about his demise and all footage not aired or in the film be returned to them: To cover up the fraud that he was.
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
One less moron taking up space.
kaos3124 1 year ago
If you shoot a grizzly it's only gonna p--s him off even more
anna101ful 1 year ago
@anna101ful don't worry you can say piss, it's youtube and your parents shan't see your comments
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@traiter82 thats not hunting. thats killing. if you have to use an automatic weapon, dont buy the tags.
GO4333 1 year ago
Ah lads come on - forget all your rifles and shotguns - just take a M203 grenade launcher!!!! Case closed......................
darrenmaccann1 2 years ago
I have been sprayed with pepper spray in training and it didn't stop me. Best be armed.
DD826 2 years ago
Best to go hiking with an AT-4 in Grizz country!
YakAV8R 2 years ago
If you have an exellent condition, you are a strong man and have lot of reflexes you can kill a bear with a knife : )
BiohazardCrow 2 years ago
No , you can't , unless it's a baby or in hibernation . You watch too much television idiot .
thesepipesRclean 2 years ago
@BiohazardCrow black bear no doubt... but a grizzly... i dunno... Them mothers are fucking huge.. and could kill a man with ease... you would have to be very... very very lucky..
Kadrius23 1 year ago
Anyone hunting grizzlies with a .308, had better place his shot exactly, or he will be killed by an angry, wounded bear. Disregarding the AK47 suggestion, one would be well-advised to bring some heavy artillery, to wit: a .300 magnum, a .375 Weatherby magnum, or a .458 Winchester. And have someone backing you up armed with a 12 gauge with rifled slugs. If you must kill one of these magnificent creatures, aim for the shoulder, the hump, or if you've got the guts, the eye.
Z1Z2Z5Z4 2 years ago
.50 beowulf, Hit em were u like it most, hes down!!
xavierid 2 years ago
Finally, someone who has some knowlege of munitions. LOL AK-47.
un1cage 2 years ago
If a bear is in a good/curious mood it might work well, but if the bear is in attack mode, bear spray don't work that well. People who are in bear country should carry a gun and bear spray. Pull the right one out for the right situation.
traiter82 2 years ago
I live near woods where you can find many bears in my country. In europe we dont need guns, like you do. I went to school every morning at 6AM through that wood and i have seen them(bears)many times. They do not attack if you don't get any closer. was always very loud when i knew they were near.They are not very dangerous.They need the place to live, but man comes to his territory. And i think the "legend - Grizzly man- he was an idiot. Ask real americans-ancient indians,they know those animals
VendPrekmurec 2 years ago
If a bear was going to eat me, I'd use a 20 round 308 carbine and shoot it in the neck, head, and chest. Knives or handguns wont do anygood when fighting grizzlies. You'll just wound the animal or aggrivate it. Bear spray is useless when there is too much wind and it might even get in your own face and burn ur eyes. Best weapon against bear is a AK47 or 308 carbine. Something that has a lot of rounds and is strong.
traiter82 2 years ago
ak, the best weapon for bear hunting;)
bobadork 2 years ago
@traiter82 An AK47 is for the 'spray and pray' crowd who hope that if they fire enough ammo something will stick. Best gun on a large bear in my opinion is a 300 Weatherby. One well-placed bullet from that gun will knock the biggest grizzly on his ass. The old time hunters used double rifles, mostly .500 Jeffery. The .505 Gibbs was popular also in the old days and used by Ernest Hemingway in Africa. If you need a cannon get a 460 Weatherby with 8000 ft/lbs of force when it hits.
JackKangaroo1 1 year ago
@JackKangaroo1 only jerkoff assholes shoot bears and other animals that they don't need to kill.
mikethebike7 1 year ago
@mikethebike7 Agreed trophy hunting is pretty sick. I've fired some of these guns on targets, but I'm not a hunter myself and don't shoot anything living. My comments were based largely on historical references from times when people actually NEEDED to kill large predators for self-preservation or the preservation of others. Case in point: James Corbett killed a dozen man-eating tigers in India that had collectively killed more than 1500 human beings. Was he a "jerkoff asshole" for doing so?
JackKangaroo1 1 year ago
@traiter82 traiter you cant spell traitor, and you can't spell aggravate. Furthermore, if you were informed, you would know that pepper spray is considered as or more effective a defense against an attacking bear as a firearm. You can easily miss with a firearm, or with the brown bears great bulk and vitality EASILY miss a shot that will drop him before he can rip you up pretty fucking badly. A pepper fogger makes it difficult to miss, and it is very effective.
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GO4333 1 year ago
@traiter82
What a idiot moron who thinks any AK 47 or a 308 is the best gun for use on 1000 Pound Plus Alaskan bears !
I am a Alaskan guide who guides hunters for these bears, let me tell all the AK 47 loving punk Idiots the smallest of rifles us Alaskan's use for bears is a 338 Winchester mag and that is a minimum we use for Alaskan bears !
Best Alaskan bear guns are 9.3x62 mm - 375H&H - 416 Remington 416 Rugby - 458 Win mag .
The AK 47 7.62x39 Russian has less power than a 30-30 Winchester !
Moldovawineimporter 1 year ago
@Moldovawineimporter AK with 30 armor piercing rnds, Saiga 12 ga with 20 armor P slugs, and 308 with 20 armor P rnd is better than all your guns against brown bear. Your guns are too slow for a charging bear at 3 feet. Your guns are strong, but slow. You need speed, penetration, and at least to be a 30 cal. Only shoot head, lungs, shoulder, spine. Ak does have less power, but very good penetration with a FMJ or AP rnd. Powerful + slow gun is not a good choice if you bump into a bear 3 ft away
traiter82 1 year ago
@traiter82
Your an idiot punk kid !
I guess all us professional Alaskan guides don't know what we are doing then in your option and world of watching video games !
All the guns you talked about are not Alaskan bears guns, these guns will get you killed in Alaska in bear country .
I am a 50 years old professional hunting guide in Alaska so what experience you have in Killing Alaskan bears !
Moldovawineimporter 1 year ago
@Moldovawineimporter You have 50 years experience in murder? Must make your family proud.....sad that you are that old and still don't understand how awful your life is. Hopefully the end comes sooner for you and you get thrown in the fire of hell, or just don't come back in any way, shape, or form! Useless hunters!
mousavsm 6 months ago
@Moldovawineimporter Your guns are good for hunting, but not for self defense against a bear while alone in the woods. Hunting, you have time to aim and kill. When you bump into a charging bear thats 3 ft away, you'll need lots of firepower like the guns I mentioned. Imagine being in a cage with a bear and only have 3 secs to grab a gun and shoot, would you grab the AK with 30 rnds of AP or your long bolt/lever high power gun that probably only has about 1-4 rnds and is very slow? Ponder on this
traiter82 1 year ago
@traiter82
Not to mention that guns are a no-no in the provincial park where Treadwell liked to pretender he was the bear God.
lesterclaypool1 3 months ago
@traiter82 Or, how about simply not going anywhere and bothering one of nature's premier beasts? Just a thought since you deserve what you get when you go in an animals habitat. Isn't the land we occupy enough? AK 47 would be my weapon of choice on you.....
mousavsm 6 months ago
A knife wouldn't have men't a bit of difference to the outcome.
prpd35 2 years ago
people say that he should of caried a gun or knife with him, but he wouldent want to kill any of the bears anyway...
LittleMissHell1 3 years ago
knife vs bear? good luck! you need a 375 magnum or 3-5 buckshots to take one down
bodypowr 3 years ago
lol would chuck norris do?
Gaiden47 2 years ago
well chuck norris would stand there and shed a tear for the bear. the bear seeing chucks tears would be saddened and depressed and wander off to go kill itself in shame. That's how powerful chuck norris's tears are. They also are said to cure cancer. but chuck rarely if never cries.
PaiLung 2 years ago
actually your correct chuck norris would stand there but he wouldnt shed a tear, the mere thought of the roundhouse the bear would get frightened the bear to sucide. chuck norris's tears are proven scientifically to cure all types of cancer...But he NEVER has cried.
firerealm9 2 years ago
@PaiLung never has a response been filled with so much insight yet chuck norris wouldn't even tear up even if he killed everyone in the world including his mother but one can think science fictionlike.
bobadork 1 year ago
bears have been killed with knifes before
1ngjoxsh 2 years ago
a 200 pound blackbear(maybe) but against a 800 pound grizzly id say the bear wins 99 times out of a 100 fights
bodypowr 2 years ago
Well, he did kill bear, LMH, 9 in total. The original 2 that ate him, 2 more that winter starved during hibernation because they had come to be dependant on Treadwell for food, and 5 more that were shot because Treadwell removed their natural fear of man.
I'm so glad that the selfish cocksucker didn't want to kill any of the bear, he ended up doing just that, regardless.
Only idiots admire and emulate this dumb fuck for "doing what he wanted to."
thegirl44 2 years ago
@thegirl44 ,, yep good to hear from someone who lives in the real world,besides it was just a matter of time before he got et"
murphy13295 1 year ago
So do you think treetard Tim gave the bear the diarea? I think it's funny that Tim ended up as a greasy smelly bear turd. :D
billy56081 3 years ago
@billy56081
Treetard! I have a replacement in my lexicon for Ecoterrorist, now.
Thank you for that.
thegirl44 1 year ago
OOPS!!
pantherlvr 3 years ago
he couldn't have deserved to die more had he not danced around with strips of steaks tied around his neck and kicked a mother's bear cubs
bobadork 3 years ago
humanity will be hunted one day
motormonkeyNL 3 years ago
no. no it won't.
nathanielKnemis 3 years ago
this guy cared for some foxes and i heard he killed a wolf cus killed one of the foxes. that aint right. its nature. i love foxes but wolves more but i meen even if a fox killed a wolf its the circle of life
MaximumPyromaniac 3 years ago
Circle of life is right! Sometimes man finds himself lower on the foodchain than he would like, as in the case of treadwell.
choubc12 3 years ago
In that respect, Treadwell did make a difference, albeit a dubious one. And it is a shame that some people in the same mindset as him, will profit by keeping the myth of a socially inept manic-depressive alive.
Mymieke 3 years ago
It is sad, but I mean, he lived with Bears. While he got some amazing footage and photographs, he was still dealing with wild animals that are unpredictable no matter how much you're around them. And I guess he got over confident in his abilities to apporach a Bear. I mean, from what I understand, he got brutalized by that Bear. I imagine the footage is pretty horrific, especially since Bears are so massive and ferocious when they attack. Not a pretty site, look as the man who got his face torn.
10191927 3 years ago
he smoked weed, his eyes were always puffy.... he thought he culd just walk next to a bear and befriend it.. he obviously did nto know anything about it.. and yes tehre are audio of it.... its gruesome..... i wanna see the video...
PBShootout 3 years ago
anyone that believes Treadwell made a difference is a moron
Mymieke 3 years ago
Yes Treadwell made a difference, he made every little child that watched his story believe you can walk up to a wild animal and just touch it. The other side of his story will not be aired however. The real results will only be known by a few people who stand to profit in someway by keeping this myth alive.
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Timoth treadwell just like all the other animal rigths actvist in this world are FUCKING IDOTS. they think that animals are humans to and they are not, they are WILD ANAIMALS. Of course aniaml rights actvist think that bear didn't do anything wrong they think that the bear DIDN'T KNOW ANY BETTER this is bull shit. Give the animals rights then what so we can put the bear on trial for murder. I guess the bear didnt think that he need treadwells protection.
carter20081985 3 years ago
anyone who say that Treadwell got what he deserved is a moron.
YamatoTitanic 3 years ago 5
I seriously agree! No one deserves to die.
ChinaStar95 3 years ago
@YamatoTitanic No shit bro.
BlackBearsLove 7 months ago
@YamatoTitanic treadwell proved you can be ONE with a bear.
SHARKREEF2011 5 months ago
@YamatoTitanic
He got what he wanted.
downy62 2 months ago
hunter hunted? how was he a hunter? he was just some nutcase.
Chrispoirier 3 years ago
I'm pretty sure this brain surgeon was caught offguard probobly in his sleep with his girlfriend in the night.
bobadork 3 years ago
not exactly he was trying to get up close and touch it and his gf was filming. dnt try to search the vid tho cuz the wife wont giv it out
CommentMan1309 3 years ago
For the love of God. Where can I hear the audio or see the video of their gruesome deaths??? Surely there are hundreds of youtube trolls who possess this information!!!
HemmorrhoidTentacle 3 years ago
only one known copy exists and is owned by Treadwell's long term friend who say's she never release it. I think she may evev have destroyed it.
matrags 3 years ago
who wants to hear a man scream for his life? i hope she did destroy it.
donmarco510 3 years ago 2
You can't hear the audio of their deaths.... The tape is in the custody of Jewel Polovak who will never release it to the public.... There are no copies 'floating around the internet' as some would like us to believe.
AnnieGordon 3 years ago 2