Very strange. Valerie (Jensen) makes love for the first time after becoming a woman, and yet Mary Ann (Funicello) also felt the sensation of the experience. Talk about being one and the same. This shows how an alter ego can reflect the things one would ordinarily never do as herself. Mary Ann was so reserved and modest.
@sandinyourshoes it's a tough one for Mary Ann. She wants Valerie to stop but... or because... she knows that she is just the other side of her own personality and that Valerie's getting what she also wants. It's not easy to admit one's own repressed desires. It must've been a trip to hell for Mary Ann to be pleasured in ways she'd never admit, enjoying every second in spite of herself & being helpless to stop it & not wanting to at the same time. Valerie=truly EVIL side of Mary Ann.
@incdogrobber, that is absolutely right! No one can be 100% good or 100% bad. In this Fantasy Island episode, we see how a woman struggles against herself both psychologically and spiritually. At one point, it actually became physical. That was just the practical aspect that Mary Ann could not avoid.
Like any woman with feelings for pleasure, Mary Ann probably felt it was wrong to let herself enjoy the sensations of love making outside a relationship involving commitment and marriage.
@sandinyourshoes we (not countin' the sociopaths) all spend our lives walkin' the fine line between carnality & spirituality whether or not we admit it. we all have moments like this in which we lose control. I'd feel sorry for Mary Ann because in spite of her age & maturity, she was unprepared for it. then again, WHO IS prepared to feel her own repressed personality gettin' ravished?
there are a lotta things we hide even from ourselves.
for me, it wouldn't be just about the pleasure she'd give but about pleasurin' her. if a person only thinks about pleasurin' himself/herself when she/he goes to the bedroom, s/he might as well go alone. she'd have to feel it not just in her body but all over; I'm talkin' serious depth of feelin'. that's REAL lovemakin' not just physicality. otherwise, forget about it. if Maren Jensen fell head-over-heels for me & I for her, even if she were an atheist, she wouldn't be for long!
@incdogrobber, yes, it is so different when we consider the needs of others. Then again, it changes us. Just think of how you'd change if Maren were to fall madly in love with you.
@sandinyourshoes O God yes(even at her age today)! or someone like her. for some, REAL satisfaction comes from the pleasure one gives to her/his partner & not just when hittin' that. if a person really cares, satisfaction only comes from seein' her go cuckoo for coco puffs!
@sandinyourshoes O sure... if my enemies don't try strikin' at me through her... again! I appreciate the kind words. Human beings as a species need to love someone as much as we need to be loved by someone. as I see it, if a person only concentrates on her/his own pleasure, s/he may as well go somewhere with a "jack book" like Maxim or Playboy because true satisfaction will elude her/him with anyone else.
all this worthwhile conversation from a poorly-recorded sex scene...
@sandinyourshoes I needed to hear that a quarter-century ago. now love just rips a guy open a new one when a man loves someone enough to punch a hole in a fool's chest but the other person doesn't feel the same.
@sandinyourshoes life is too short to live in fear. once fear and/or self-doubt get you into a rear-naked choke-hold, neither of them ever let you go.
@sandinyourshoes I felt sorry for Mary Ann. even as a B.U.D. I knew the poor woman's guilt was what drove her to strangle Valerie & turn her back into the dummy as much as wantin' to keep her evil from gettin' out here. Mary Ann probably cried all night long from the shame and guilt for feeling the pleasure in her body & I think Valerie knew that she inflicted sufferin' on her alter-ego all the while she was gettin' served & it heightened her pleasure all the more. I wouldn't want that kind. mo'
@sandinyourshoes perhaps. moreover, she was probably brought up to believe that sex is dirty & got punished a lot. I've seen a case that. this causes a victim to repress herself/himself & Valerie is the Hyde to Mary Ann's Jekyll. Valerie is the repressed side of Mary Ann. That's why it's never good to be TOO liberal with punishment. sure, discipline is important, but everything in moderation. Mary Ann probably got too much & Valerie's the result. are you enjoying this threat as much as I am?
I found from experience that not only is it outside my sphere of ethics to roll in the hay with a woman whose actions or attitudes are unacceptable but believe it or not, I probably couldn't keep it up knowin' what she could do to harm others no matter how HOT or how good her sexual technique is. I'd actually RUN from a woman like Valerie if I know what kinda person she is, but can't lie that if I don't know the kind she is, she might seduce me like any other.
ah, my first teen fantasy. I used to dream about Maren Jensen waitin' at home for me but what 15 year old Boy Under Development DIDN'T?
incdogrobber 4 months ago
Yes, incdogrobber, that is very easy to understand. I couldn't blame you at all. Maren was lovely.
sandinyourshoes 4 months ago
For years in syndication the this soft core rape scene and her beating her hand with a letter opener was cut out. Thanks for the vid.
pier234 1 year ago
Very strange. Valerie (Jensen) makes love for the first time after becoming a woman, and yet Mary Ann (Funicello) also felt the sensation of the experience. Talk about being one and the same. This shows how an alter ego can reflect the things one would ordinarily never do as herself. Mary Ann was so reserved and modest.
sandinyourshoes 2 years ago
@sandinyourshoes it's a tough one for Mary Ann. She wants Valerie to stop but... or because... she knows that she is just the other side of her own personality and that Valerie's getting what she also wants. It's not easy to admit one's own repressed desires. It must've been a trip to hell for Mary Ann to be pleasured in ways she'd never admit, enjoying every second in spite of herself & being helpless to stop it & not wanting to at the same time. Valerie=truly EVIL side of Mary Ann.
incdogrobber 4 months ago
@incdogrobber, that is absolutely right! No one can be 100% good or 100% bad. In this Fantasy Island episode, we see how a woman struggles against herself both psychologically and spiritually. At one point, it actually became physical. That was just the practical aspect that Mary Ann could not avoid.
Like any woman with feelings for pleasure, Mary Ann probably felt it was wrong to let herself enjoy the sensations of love making outside a relationship involving commitment and marriage.
sandinyourshoes 4 months ago
@sandinyourshoes we (not countin' the sociopaths) all spend our lives walkin' the fine line between carnality & spirituality whether or not we admit it. we all have moments like this in which we lose control. I'd feel sorry for Mary Ann because in spite of her age & maturity, she was unprepared for it. then again, WHO IS prepared to feel her own repressed personality gettin' ravished?
there are a lotta things we hide even from ourselves.
incdogrobber 4 months ago
for me, it wouldn't be just about the pleasure she'd give but about pleasurin' her. if a person only thinks about pleasurin' himself/herself when she/he goes to the bedroom, s/he might as well go alone. she'd have to feel it not just in her body but all over; I'm talkin' serious depth of feelin'. that's REAL lovemakin' not just physicality. otherwise, forget about it. if Maren Jensen fell head-over-heels for me & I for her, even if she were an atheist, she wouldn't be for long!
incdogrobber 4 months ago
@incdogrobber, yes, it is so different when we consider the needs of others. Then again, it changes us. Just think of how you'd change if Maren were to fall madly in love with you.
sandinyourshoes 4 months ago
@sandinyourshoes O God yes(even at her age today)! or someone like her. for some, REAL satisfaction comes from the pleasure one gives to her/his partner & not just when hittin' that. if a person really cares, satisfaction only comes from seein' her go cuckoo for coco puffs!
incdogrobber 3 months ago
@incdogrobber, one has to think that way to build a lasting relationship. I get the feeling you would be successful.
sandinyourshoes 3 months ago
@sandinyourshoes O sure... if my enemies don't try strikin' at me through her... again! I appreciate the kind words. Human beings as a species need to love someone as much as we need to be loved by someone. as I see it, if a person only concentrates on her/his own pleasure, s/he may as well go somewhere with a "jack book" like Maxim or Playboy because true satisfaction will elude her/him with anyone else.
all this worthwhile conversation from a poorly-recorded sex scene...
incdogrobber 3 months ago
@incdogrobber, too often people just do not reach out for love. It often does not come to us; we must go to it.
sandinyourshoes 3 months ago
@sandinyourshoes I needed to hear that a quarter-century ago. now love just rips a guy open a new one when a man loves someone enough to punch a hole in a fool's chest but the other person doesn't feel the same.
incdogrobber 3 months ago
@incdogrobber, sadly, there is always the risk that you will get your heart broken.
sandinyourshoes 3 months ago
@sandinyourshoes life is too short to live in fear. once fear and/or self-doubt get you into a rear-naked choke-hold, neither of them ever let you go.
incdogrobber 3 months ago
@sandinyourshoes I felt sorry for Mary Ann. even as a B.U.D. I knew the poor woman's guilt was what drove her to strangle Valerie & turn her back into the dummy as much as wantin' to keep her evil from gettin' out here. Mary Ann probably cried all night long from the shame and guilt for feeling the pleasure in her body & I think Valerie knew that she inflicted sufferin' on her alter-ego all the while she was gettin' served & it heightened her pleasure all the more. I wouldn't want that kind. mo'
incdogrobber 3 months ago
@incdogrobber, Mary Ann seemed so old-fashioned about sexual matters. I think she was saving herself for marriage.
sandinyourshoes 3 months ago
@sandinyourshoes perhaps. moreover, she was probably brought up to believe that sex is dirty & got punished a lot. I've seen a case that. this causes a victim to repress herself/himself & Valerie is the Hyde to Mary Ann's Jekyll. Valerie is the repressed side of Mary Ann. That's why it's never good to be TOO liberal with punishment. sure, discipline is important, but everything in moderation. Mary Ann probably got too much & Valerie's the result. are you enjoying this threat as much as I am?
incdogrobber 3 months ago
I found from experience that not only is it outside my sphere of ethics to roll in the hay with a woman whose actions or attitudes are unacceptable but believe it or not, I probably couldn't keep it up knowin' what she could do to harm others no matter how HOT or how good her sexual technique is. I'd actually RUN from a woman like Valerie if I know what kinda person she is, but can't lie that if I don't know the kind she is, she might seduce me like any other.
but what really gets me HOT (mo')
incdogrobber 3 months ago