Bill Hogarth, self-advocate and Valley View Centre Survivor.

[Nickie9671]

Hmm.. that's interesting. For the recored, Valley View doesn't even have "seclusion rooms". I would know, I work there.

[Priapus00]

This would have some validity if anyone could find even one person that would confirm his stories. Even ONE.

[lesterclaypool1]

@Priapus00

My granddad is in a retirement home (read institution) and he bitches about the food. Advocacy is always one sided and spun like crazy but there is something beyond ominous about using people with developmental, mental and emotional disabilities to champion those looking for higher paying work positions in privatized, as opposed to institutionalized, care.

[Priapus00]

@lesterclaypool1 excellent point lester... one that i have made myself many times. good to know others see it as well. in this thread, i was simply addressing Bill's claims, not so much the dirty politics behind it. :)

[lesterclaypool1]

@Priapus00

As this is one of the few threads here where FreeThePeople's agenda can be discussed, I figured that I'd take liberties :).