China's new high speed rail link: Fast and furious

[geezerdombroadcast]

This underscores the idea that dictatorships be they communist based or oligarchic fascist based like Russia only exacerbate problems. They solve nothing. The Fascists that seek to dismantle our democracy in America want the same kind of system. A few industry fat cats rake in all the doe while everyone else serves them as slaves. High speed rail is only sensible when serving higher income areas in distant suburbs. By its very nature that is who it must serve. Long commutes and to many cars.

[kb2010gt500]

@geezerdombroadcast Glad you'un finally see thru librools and socialist like Barack Odumbo geezer. They use morons like you. You think librools care about working people. You are stupid. If you do not like this country or where you work, leave or quit or both. I want librools especially that stupid bastard Obama to get off the wealthy's backs.

[kb2010gt500]

@geezerdombroadcast Well, Mr. Geezer, the wealthy put food on you'un table, rood over you'un head, clothes on you'un back, gas in you'un table...............you'un life would be reduced to grass skirts and chasing a rabbit with a stick for something to eat. And given enough time and power Odumbo would make the US look like Zimbabwe.

[kb2010gt500]

@geezerdombroadcast Let me ask you'un this Mr. Geezer. These questions are based on my observations of librools especially the old, white fart ones. 1. When was the last time you'un wuz laid? 2. Do you'un have more that one friend? 3. Do you'un rent? 4. Do you'un have a job? 5. Are you one some sort of government entitlement? 6. Are you married, ever have been or divorced? 7. Have you'un owned a business.++++++++++++I think I can asnwer most of these questions.

[SmashLeftPropaganda]

"Chinese" trains you say???

They only threw in the money, the trains are GERMAN (Siemens) and the railways were built with FRENCH (Alstom) and JAPANESE (Hitachi Heavy Industries) support.

Whatever is ACTUALLY made in China BY the Chinese is an undeniable piece of shit!

[BrainstormerXV]

CHINA SURE FACE A REPUTATION CRISIS.

[forloveC]

I must say that, China has the best train...Ok, I am a Chinese...^-^

[CYKind900]

Well it's better to place more concern about safety and quality and less brag about how fast the train can travel.

[gowestward1]

Thank you America for shopping at your local Walmart......without you, none of this would have been possible

[triadchixD]

820 miles, £20bn+...sounds better than HS2 already.

[FGsGFdG2]

These trains were heralded as tools for reducing congestion on traditional trains, but the ticket prices are so high that the choice is often not between traditional trains and high speed trains, but high speed trains and commercial air travel.

The average Chinese is much too poor to take advantage of these fancy new toys!

[leeboyy1]

Oi don't diss us Europeans! :)

[samados969]

GERMAN ICE 3 VELARO !!!

[bored1980]

It really is a masterpiece of engineering. I hope they can sort out the bugs and get it up and running again soon.

[Suva1987]

Last year I was going from Wuxi to Shanghai on exactly the same dogon CHR or so-called bullet train. On one section shortly before heading into Shanghai, it toped a speed of 352 kph. That was pretty fast. Note, in Germany the ICE cuts off at 300 kph, and the USA don't even have got high speed rail that exceeds 240 kph.

[JohnMuise]

china has WAY too much people. have they ever heard of a condom? or do chinese condims just always break?

[MetalDetroit]

OOOOH does that look like FUN to ride ! (Sarcasm)

I will never understand why high speed rail is American Liberalisms wet dream.

Fine you want us all to stop using our cars. what happens when you get to the other city. how do you get around then..

The trains are ELECTRIC - we get 61% of our electricity from COAL. Essentially - these are COAL powered trains. no different from the trains of the last century.

[gibb1991]

@MetalDetroit Actually, 49% of our energy comes from coal, and that number is declining. High Speed Trains are more efficient through a distributed and brake-return electric network. Far from the coal-powered trains of the 19th and early 20th Centuries. And how do you get around a city after you arrive by plane? By renting a car or using public transportation (bus, metro, light rail, etc.). The same would go for high speed rail.

[cummerval3]

@AntiChinksFederation HAHA the train crashed is made in germany, when do stupid GTFO.

[guyKLumpur]

And it's not even 5 years yet.... MADE IN CHINA

[rrb634]

Amazing what Chineese can do!

[Zeduxearth]

1 Month 12% down! are you trying to help people loose the rest of their money or what? I rather do my own research and buy GOLD and GOLD alone! And SILVER I almost forgot that part!

[atmark666]

do not go anyway near that thing!

its very dangerous!

and its made in china!

[ncgolfer99]

A job well done. Chine is racing towards a developed nation status but it can never be like the USA.

A billion people ruled by a few million red army. What a pathetic life. Feel sorry for the Chinese folks. They don't even know what they are missing. In general Chinese folks are not trust worthy. That is why they are ruled by an iron fist. Only barbarians do that. Perfect for China.

[gokusays]

@ncgolfer99 Yeah, and monkeys like you fly out of my arse...go get a fk'n education before ranting from the pin-sized brain that you have...I bet you don't even have a passport and have never been outside of your pigstye, let alone your fk'n country...reply and tell me if I'm wrong.

[obsidianstatue]

@ncgolfer99 if China is ruled by few million red army then USA is ruled by few dozen interest groups in Wall street and military contractors. we are improving our lives while your so called government is ripping you off, you idiots just dont know what you are missing, in general Americans are STUPID, that is why they are being fooled by the Walls street bankers and miltiary contractors, only a retarded racce do that, perfect for USA.

[kolauson]

Communism does not work... we did not trade with the Soviets, and I question why we are trading with China. Ghost cities soon to be connected with ghost trains.

[540384342]

@kolauson the trains will never be ghost..OK?..China has 1.3billion people..lots of people wants to take the trains..and the trains will be more...And the ghost cities will be filled with people in the future.............and why can't u guys trade to us? China is not Planned economy country now ...ok? And in fact ,people in china do not like communis.

[mukamuka0]

Look like China already prepared themself for post-oil era with economy less depend on oil

they don't need to go out and invade some countries in middle east to secure oil supply

[gibb1991]

@mukamuka0 China is actually the largest consumer of oil in the world, second is the United States.

[petrhsr]

@mukamuka0 - No, they don't - they focus their evil on internal repression.

[xinyiquan666]

and why ice3 cant run at 485? why?

[engerim]

@xinyiquan666 cause european people wouldnt believe its save :)

[xinyiquan666]

@engerim no, probably more true dont have the tech yet, even germen has most highest tech, but some not any more

[engerim]

haha at 0:47 notice the plastic cover is still on the screen. Thats soooo chinese to do :)

[tri400]

@engerim lolzzz, very Indian thing to do as well...

[4711rock]

The build cost are a bullet train bargain: £21bn for 819 miles = £26m per mile. This is TWELVE times cheaper than the planned London-Birmingham high-speed rail line, which is currently budgeted at £34m for 110 miles = £309m per mile and, like other UK infrastructure projects before, is destined to go over budget.

[Nyro888]

yet when japan improves on technology, it's called innovation, however when china does it, we have nips like you undermining the ingenuity of it, by claiming it to be unoriginal. What double standards!

[anpodin]

soon I will take three and a half day trip on Russian Transsib just one way - that's a challange! I want this Chinese 300 km/h train there

[Nyro888]

@anjonjp,

Actually your comments just reflect bias. Almost every invention has a precedent, or is somehow based on existing concepts. In terms of modifying existing technology to make it better, there is nobody that does it better than japan. (cont.)

[xXRiTaLiNx]

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[xxmrbloodxx]

@3966m Wut? Allah? Islam? Muslim?? On a train video??

[anjonjp]

There are two new high speed trains. The one shown which was developed based on the German high speed train and the other based upon the Hayate Shinkansen train from Japan. Despite these being collaborations, China is claiming that these are their own unique inventions and are applying for patents to sell them worldwide. That is the biggest controversy surely.

[rayman1977918]

@anjonjp

Those patents from Germany and Japan have been licensed and paid in full price. Plain and simple. More importantly, new tech/patent/innovation have been incorporated into the Chinese version of high speed trains. So tell me why cant the Chinese companies sell their products?

[billeybop]

Is this the one that was hit by an 18 wheeler out west this weekend?

[ChrisAstro30]

@billeybop that's near Reno, Nevada.

[billeybop]

@ChrisAstro30 That's what I thought and wonder why it was tested in our country? Scary!

[ChrisAstro30]

@billeybop uhh that train was Caltrain and not a high-speed train.

[billeybop]

@ChrisAstro30 Oh I see, wrong train and country! Sorry :)

[ChrisAstro30]

@billeybop lol! That's ok!

[billeybop]

@ChrisAstro30 Thanks for your kindness and have a safe 4th!

[ks7602]

No matter how you pathetic whiners and nay-sayer run your mouth, the fact is that China has this and you don't. You guys keep running your mouth if that makes you feel better. Or go on strike for every little thing (that's you, the Europeans) if that make you and your country more productive and competitive. Meanwhile, the Chinese are nation-building (their own country, not Iraq nor Afghanistan) and leaving you all in the dust.

[engerim]

@ks7602 Its a European (German) Siemens Velaro train, see Wikipedia for China Railways CRH3

The rolling stock is now produced in China (CNR Tangshan/Changchun) but the key components are made in Europe. And err, its OK that China has it. I still prefer flying though.

[xinyiquan666]

@engerim no, its not a Siemens , its china's own CRH380 at 380 km/ hour, germany does not have train at 380 speed tech yet, the crh2 is based on introduced siemens at 250 km, but not 380 tech, and wiki is a joke, some people edit it to self praise themselves

[xinyiquan666]

@

and its also false, china has its own patents on key components , and i do admit china still import some accessories from germany, but only in very small percentage,and they not key components,germany has no key tech on 380 ,

[xinyiquan666]

correction, crh3 is a seimens Licensing

[engerim]

@xinyiquan666 so why does it look exactly like a ICE3 Velaro? Coincidence? :-)

[xinyiquan666]

@engerim well, lots thing look similar, so germen car is copy of american ones

[engerim]

@xinyiquan666 well, there's no problems with that as long as its licensed correctly. I never said its a bad train, did I? :)

[xinyiquan666]

@engerim but u give false information about the train

[rayman1977918]

@engerim

The new train is CRH380A, not CRH3. CRH3 is in service as low speed train. As you have said, check wiki before talking.

[akinkhoo]

@rayman1977918 the CRH3 design was upgraded as CRH380B. the train shown here is not the 380A but a 380B based on the CRH3. the 380A has a more bullet-like head. the CRH3 is uglier =P

[tri400]

@ks7602 China had to reduce the speed from 350km/h to 300km/h because of shoddy construction and people wouldnt be able to afford tickets for 350km/h trains.....

[TingRoger]

@ks7602 Agree. I find that this reports lacks the balance in terms of the impact of high speed rail ... this video ONLY looks at its negative impact but did not looked at the positive of this rail system. For example, Germany should also be proud of this technology as it is based on German technology made in China. This high speed rail link officially opened today.

[greyztone]

@ks7602 ? Europe and America could quite easily have super-fast trains if they wanted them. The fact is that such a waste of money wouldn't be tolerated. If the common man had any real power in China it wouldn't be tolerated there either. The Chinese are leaving the bulk of their OWN people in the dust as they 'nation-build'... hence the frequent strikes, protests and riots they have to deal with. Oh wait, you hadn't heard of those?

[jushengkai]

@greyztone From where you had heard of those? Have you ever heard from a real Chinese who lives in China? And do you know HOW MANY people protest? Because that is the whole point: There are 1.4 Billion Chinese, even crazy guy with six fingers can be thousands of. If we had to stop every time some body protests, we will have done NOTHING!

[greyztone]

@jushengkai "There is no legal right to strike in China, but there are strikes every day. Factory workers, hotel employees, teachers and taxi drivers…" "In the manufacturing heartland, the Pearl River Delta, there are up to 10,000 labor disputes each year." Han Dongfang

There are far more strikes in China PER CAPITA than in Europe/US. And working conditions, rights and pay plumb depths that would NOT BE TOLERATED. Any country can afford fast shiny trains at the expense of their own people.

[jushengkai]

@greyztone You are misleading. These workers definitely have their rights to earn their pay and government is on THEIR side. In which country government pays for factory workers, hotel employees and taxi drivers? For sure China is not a rich country, Chinese workers still don't have good working conditions, rights, but they do have lots of train riders, which makes HST reality. And back to the point, are they protesting against HST? So what does it matter with this topic?

[greyztone]

@jushengkai The Chinese government has only very recently started tolerating strikes of any kind. The fantastically expensive HST doesn't benefit the people who are most in need of cheap train travel. My original point to the other guy was that Europe COULD afford such things, but with it only serving the rich and with bigger problems to deal with, it would not be tolerated. YOU asked me for a Chinese voice confirming these bigger problems, I did, and now you're telling me that it's off-topic?

[akinkhoo]

@greyztone saying China cannot afford this make no sense because airline is booming and air ticket are more expensive. I do think they need to improve regular line too because they need alot of freight train if they want to develop the west and cheaper transport is needed to bring the cost of moving good down.

[refillmaster]

@ks7602: Very good statement. Now consider this: The West had copied alot of chinese inventions like paper, compass, gunpowder, printing, porcelain and many things unknown in the west in the old times. China was considered a mysterious and advanced country, which it was. Should I always say someone that the paper someone is writing on, is actually a chinese invention and thus copied, like these HST are said to be copied from Japan and Germany, even the paper is made in your own country ???

[alopez850]

@ks7602 and who the hell cares -.-

[redarrowhead2]

@ks7602 They are indeed nation building. But you see, the Western world is already built. Chinese households are one of the poorest in the world and spend very little; domestic demand in China is very weak. China instead relies on export-led growth. The US was like that too a very long time ago. However, China's era of high growth is ticking away. It'll eventually have to address many realities to catch up to the West.

[TheLiberalKnight]

@ks7602 They're leaving the USA in the dust faster than they're leaving Europe in the dust. At least they're doing deals with countries like Britain and France... they won't do deals with American anymore because they know America is bankrupt and won't pay it back.

[DontBuyChinese]

@TheLiberalKnight

Leaving the US in the dust? Not hardly. China plans to but a man on the moon in the next 12-15 years, probably around 2025; when they do, it will be 66 years after the US did it. Don't talk to me about tech; the US rules there and you know it.  So what if China is building a high speed rail network. Let's see them put a man on the moon or mars. They

can't. They don't have the tech.

[rodrigoeternalfallen]

@DontBuyChinese Sorry to "parachute" in your conversation, but your arguments are seriously wrong. How can you say China does not have the tech as if it would never ever have?? Did the US have the "tech" in 1776?? No, man! Just like Japan after WWII, the US was a mere copier of the times great powers. I live in Brazil, and I can't help feeling afflicted by those poor arguments once Brazil, like China, is a large emerging country.

[DontBuyChinese]

@rodrigoeternalfallen

Do you think for one second the US could not build a high speed rail network if it wanted to?

A high speed rail network is not really high tech; not when you consider achievements like developing the first atomic bomb (US 1945), landing man on the mooon (US 1969), etc. And what is more impressive is that the US did all these things many, many years ago and

China and other nations only talk about putting a man on the moon several years from now!

[TheLiberalKnight]

@DontBuyChinese You don't get it, the Chinese are currently investing in projects that will ensure that technology will be dominated by China in the next 20 years.

[DontBuyChinese]

@TheLiberalKnight

Don't be so sure. Most Chinese technology is borrowed, stolen or copied, mostly from western nations. You can't predict the future no more than I can. To say China will dominate is pure speculation.

[TheLiberalKnight]

@DontBuyChinese I know. It's up to Britain and Japan to recreate the new global economy so that China won't dominate.

[triadchixD]

@DontBuyChinese Just like how western technology was borrowed, stolen or copied, mostly from China prior to the 1800s? I don't fancy joining in your argument, but just making a point clear.

[DontBuyChinese]

@triadchixD

Don't make me laugh. The things China invented prior to 1800 was low tech stuff, especially gunpower. The Chinese should have known that gunpowder can be used for weapons, not just fireworks, as it was originally intended, so their invention of it only

made killing easier (some contribution).

[lukebccb]

@DontBuyChinese: it ULTIMATELY doesn't matter how China got the technology for their HSR train cars... the thing is that China is building a HSR network.. while the USofA is NOT... if the USofA had the political will to do it they could do it.. the technology already exists - America would simply buy the trains from the Germans/French consortium that manufactures the trains - while the USofA simply has to lay the tracks.

China is building for the future.. which WILL pay off..

[DontBuyChinese]

@ks7602

Americans don't need a high speed rail system. Most Americans own their own cars or fly. Only a small percentage of Chinese own cars. So shut the fuck up, bitch, before somebody bitch-slaps you.

[gobipill]

@DontBuyChinese That costs gas.

[besinnliches]

@ks7602 We've already built our nations. One day, the PRC will catch up with the rest of us and realise that respect for human rights is not an adequate payment for prosperity.

[DontBuyChinese]

@ks7602

All these "accomplishments" are fairly low tech. In the US, this type of mass transit would not be popular or financially viable mostly because most Americans have cars (oftentimes several in one family). The US doesn't need this type of system.

[TimmacTR]

crazy..

[duudeabidez]

Another vomit comet.

[i8hy6e3]

once I want to take the train that is made by alien. how fast will it be ? lol

[Smithfilmproductions]

Made in China. No thanks I will take the Shinkansen.

[Phead128]

@Smithfilmproductions

China's high speed rail network is the most advanced in the world, and she has the world's most high tech high speed rail technology in the world.

[pentium2028]

Another pet projects serving the corrupted official and not the people.

[jonahfox]

May Allah guide this train safety.

[scottishbadboytracks]

Bet you it breaks down in a couple of weeks

[thaGkillah]

@scottishbadboytracks

BET!

[Phead128]

@scottishbadboytracks

China has the world's most advanced high speed rail network, and owns the most advanced high speed rail technology.

[anjonjp]

@Phead128 No. Japan does.

[Phead128]

@anjonjp

When China's $300 billion high-speed train system is completed, it will be the world's largest, fastest, and most technologically sophisticated (Source:CNN)

[alex31gmailcom]

@scottishbadboytracks unfortunately, it's won't happened. the same trains started on service since 2008, and have never broken down.

[GuanYu89]

@scottishbadboytracks how much u wanna bet?

[rayman1977918]

@scottishbadboytracks

High speed rail systems of China and Japan hold the best safety record with zero wound/death. What is the casualty toll of the European counterpart? 100+ people have died.