Forestry in Sweden 1

[dragoncustomcycles]

i think this video shows everything your shouldnt do...your cuts are awfull on that big tree..you guys are working way, way to close to each other..there small trees..but they still can kill you. work distace should be 1.5X further away from each other then the biggest tree you think your going to cut down.

[900erturbo]

2.55 looks good :)

[bondenesn]

Skulle det gå att motivera dig att ta motorsågskörkort? ser en del detaljer som behöver putsas på för dig och din familjs bästa..

Gick kursen själv i vintras och det kan varmt rekomenderas!

[PBGVPBGV]

@bondenesn He he. vad snäll du är. Du har helt rätt i att min teknik och säkerhet brister. Någon gång i framtiden kanske jag kommer att gå den kursen. Den verkar vara bra!

[MegaVboost]

@bondenesn tycker det ser bra ut jaa, grönt kort är bara för stockholmsfjollor.

[storminnormanz]

alot different than its done in the US

[quam12972]

Check out paulbunyan (the "at" sign) then, net / fair/pinewood

[quam12972]

Thanks for posting.

[Svahnkb]

I agree with kadakas. My grandfather was injuried and later on died during the exakt same type of work. He and another realtive of mine stood to close to each other and a small pinetree fell by acciedent in the wrong direction. My grandfather was struck in his back and died , about a minut, in my fathers cousines armes speaking his last words: I don´t think I fell so well.

He became 70 years old, died in the year 2000, the day before Christmas eve... Think about your familys!

[kadakas]

you are not supposed to work this near each other

[umpisuoli87]

Are you making these videos for the schools or for what? I mean are these suppose to go somewhere to educate youngsters or?)

sincerely finnish forestry student.

[PBGVPBGV]

@umpisuoli87 He he he. I thought you were joking untill you wrote sincerely. I am an amateur. This is how I work in the forest. They´re not for education. I am not a rolemodel, and don´t want to be one. Lots of professionals can work both faster and safer then me in the forest and...... I don´t give a fuck... Good luck with your studies. I understand Finland has a good forestindustry.

[Texasjim2007]

Sweden is one of the greediest countries on Earth today, making themselves rich by destroying the global ecconomy for everybody else, The Global GDP was the highest in human history in 2005 before their Socialist International agents took over the US Congress in 2007 to destroy us. Burn their fucking trees to ground.

[narvesen]

Husqverna eller Stihl motorsager?

[mrspydog50]

your trees are the same ones here in canada husqvarna very good saw i used to use a 254 a few years back i guesse you guys no what hard work is about i wish you all the best. I enjoyed your video it made me think of the olden days lol

[aktivsprinter]

Ska till att köpa en 242a är dom bra?

[PBGVPBGV]

@aktivsprinter Ja, jag tycker det. Känns lättare än 346:an, men har tillräckligt med bett, men det kanske bara är jag som inbillar mig.

[aktivsprinter]

vad kör ni för sågar?

[PBGVPBGV]

@aktivsprinter Husqvarna 346xp samt husqvarna 242 xp

[TheAcreageContractor]

hey man your vids are really great, when i get my quals next year i hope to do things like this

[leewoks]

lol shocking safety even the camera wasn't safe lol in new zealand you get prosecuted for that sort of practice and working too close lucky they little trees, the stump never lies,the bigger tree can easily have come back on them cause of over cutting the scarf and backcut too low. BE CAREFULL GUYS iv'e logged all my life and lost lots of friends and family through logging just takes one lapse and by the way it should take less then 30seconds to fall that last tree lol

[MrBuckbert]

Back in the late eighties, some fellas from the north came over to the coast and demonstrated corridor and fish-bone timber falling. Guess once you boys go home you, uh, just kinda do whatever huh? Thank god for the West Coast loggers.

[Hakholt]

I also have a Discovery and do some tree felling with Husky's, great equipment.

[gluepot66]

and a stihl wont sned like that

[gluepot66]

fucking brilliant forestry workers the sweeds

[Filasogen]

then you have seen noting they are amateurs. but they have done a great video. but we have very little manual labour in the forest in Sweden now days, the only manual work is brush-cutting and replanting. and they from Sweden just import the manual labour from Finland and the Balkan states and the do it cheaper and faster then the most Swedish workers whom is considered lazy by the Finnish population. you have to excuse me for the bad English if you think i'm bad.

Greetings from Sweden

[gluepot66]

i am aware that they are amatures my friend

[mxz440skidoo]

Do you take the littke ones to paper mills?

[Kawasakiowner]

går bra nog fort när man är 3 :P

[blinker071]

Lunch looked good.

[philipp1liendl]

i'm sure it was good...

[tompa666]

ere inte jobbigt å jobba me detta yrke.Ja jobbar på klintan

[1jks]

perfect video for mystery science theater 3000.

[tuzzen1]

That i can about this video is LMAO

[Akirsop]

great video. I am curious as to where are you located? I'm currently studying forestry in Sweden and find your videos fascinating.

[PBGVPBGV]

A few hours outside Stockholm by car. Sorry I´m not more specific, some degree of discretion is good on the internet.

[ds357ful]

@PBGVPBGV i noticed that you guys only use husqvarna chainsaws, is there any reason for this? because i am going to buying a chainsaw soon myself and was wondering what chainsaw you think is best

[ds357ful]

@PBGVPBGV i noticed that you guys only used husqvarna chainsaws, is there any reason for this? because i am going to buy a chainsaw soon myself and was wondering what type and model you recommend for all around forestry use. love the video :)

[PBGVPBGV]

@ds357ful We like Husqvarna, but it´s not like we´ve done a great suvery over the other chainsaws. We just started buying them, and kept with them. I cant say anything about Stihl or any other saw, beacause I haven´t used them enough. Thanks!

[medek189]

it's payed for cubic m

[acer8]

Good video. Those 346xps are great little saws, For a bit more power, with not much more weight, I like the 357xp.

How do they pay you for thinning..is it a day rate, or so much per hectare, or per cubic m?

[PBGVPBGV]

Thank you. I am an amateur. I only work in my own forest on my sparetime, so the pay comes from selling timber or pulpwood.

[Akirsop]

Where do you sell to?

[PBGVPBGV]

Our family mainly deals with Stora-Enso, if it was the forestcompany you were refering to.

[volvo745power]

Bra film & trevligt jobb. Brytjärn är världens bästa uppfinning =)

[0backelin0]

Älskar dina filmer!! hoppas du gör mera! :D

[PBGVPBGV]

Tack! Det kommer nog mer så småningom.

[darcioeana]

Genocidio Floresta...Cade a Police?

[Cassiiir]

good job and also a good video!!!

How much fuel do you need a day???

greetz 5/5

[HusQvarna93BEAR]

videon e riktigt nice, och 346:an e en skit bra såg, om man nu inte har en massa jätteträd att fälla...

[blueshadow1996]

nice video pb...healty tree...come check out my machine..uses no fuel to forward the wood...

[5elin]

Good job :D

[buckrawsum]

one of the problems w/ thinning operations is root digesting pathogens boom and affect the remaining members resulting in degrade. If we start by thinning only dead material we would begin to see more high value timber in our poorly managed forests

[JEHIAHL]

Nice delimbing work. a real pro.

[T1T1NN]

belle video

[BIBWAT1]

Like I said in one yor other videos, you need a big chainsaw. Try a 353XP. Nice and light, plenty of power a good all around saw.

I use to work forestry 10-15 years ago. I ran a Husky 257. I miss it at times. I enjoyed the fact that it was outside work.

[PBGVPBGV]

I too enjoy working in the forest.

Most of my work in our forest is thinning, and a lot of delimbing small trees. Therefor I like my saw as small as possible. I actually had my eye on a 339xp (?), had it home, but it was to weak, even for me.. It is true that cutting and delimbing these small trees doesn´t make you rich, however it needs to be done for the remaining trees.

[helgeroysland]

nå er det bare en sag som er brukenes! å det er husqvarna. 254 xpg å 242xpg cat!

dem har jeg høggd non tusen men..

[largab67]

Ja 346 og 357 arvtagerne til 242 og 254

[maciekgory]

tak w grupce to reohe zle jest pracować ale w pare osup to jest tak razniej pracować pozdro

[famooss]

Parajad tondid on, ei oska isegi õigeid töövõtteid.

[largab67]

jepp:)

[largab67]

skal ikke sikkerhets avstanden være dobble trelengder???:-) bra med husqvarna da 346 og 357? har det selv jeg

[leakimdeh]

Skulle precis kommentera detsamma! Jag gick ut skogsbrukskolan 1980 och redan då blev man inmatad detta! Det här är ingen bra reklam för "forestry in Sweden"! En annan anmärkning: det viktigaste är att lära sig att fila kedjan. Det är betydligt viktigare än vilken såg man väljer! Har jobbat på rent ackord i många år (men husqvarna är bäst)!

[jampmayer]

Nice limbing technique!

[jazzaros]

Nice proff. work and good lokking lunch ;-) can i come and work for you guys!

JS

[zackairsoft]

nice job, very professional. good job limbing too, i hate those bushy trees with soo many limbs, atleast its not like a pine with tons of limbs that are 9" in diameter.

[PERPARSON]

if you ask me you need STIHL MS361 or HUSQ 357xp for that trees.

[PBGVPBGV]

I honestly don´t know if this is the new or old edition of the 346xp, I bought new in a store during 2007. sorry.

[kalob35]

the engine displacement would be 45cc and would not have a gas bubble like the new edition!

[kalob35]

a old 346xp new edition p.s. how do you set the carbureatur too 14.3k

[pheloniousmunk]

Setting the carb to 14,300 rpm of course requires a tachometer. Turn the high speed screw out(counterclockwise) to richen the mixture and lower the rpms. You may have to use a utility knife to trim the stops off the screw travel limiters.

Did you buy this saw from a dealer or on-line? A decent dealer will set the carb for you.

[kalob35]

what do u think about stihl?

[walterbrunswick]

My thoughts exactly on what pheloniousmunk said... first overbuck, then finish from the bottom; that way you will not risk pinching the bar.

[PBGVPBGV]

I think I know what you mean, allthough I´m not really familiar with your vocabulary.

I´m gonna try it.

[kalob35]

was that the old edition?my 346xp old edition heats up to quick is it because it's new?

[pheloniousmunk]

kalob,

Husky is notorious for sending their saws out from the factory with the carbs adjusted too lean. This will kill your saw eventually, richen it up or have your dealer do it. Set it at 14.3k if using a tach and you will be safe.

[kalob35]

how do you richen up a saw?

[kalob35]

how do you richen up a saw? what i ment is how you do it!

[pheloniousmunk]

A good demonstration of snedding on the last tree but you would never keep a felling job in the US if you are always that slow getting them on the ground.

BTW, you do realize that if you overbuck about 1/3 of the way through and then finish the cut from the bottom that bucking logs is quicker, cleaner, and safer with less chance of pinching the bar?

[PBGVPBGV]

Is snedding when you remove all the branches, to get a "clean" log? I am slow and I am not a professional.......

The idea of my videos is not to show an expert in action, but to give you an idea of how an amateur logger is working in his swedish forest. There will be, at least, one more video that will show other aspects of amateur forestry in Sweden.

[pheloniousmunk]

That is correct. Given that you seem accomplished at snedding I assumed that you are a professional. In the case of my apparent mistake, very nice work on the snedding and forget what I said about getting them on the ground.

[pheloniousmunk]

This reply is totally out of context since it didn`t associate with the initial post that I had intended. It is in reference to "what is snedding?"

To overbuck is to cut across the top. Just cut down from the top until the fiber just wants to pinch the bar, maybe a little less, then finish from the bottom.

[kalob35]

used a saw since i was 11 noe 14 yes pretty good with a saw!

[kalob35]

thought that saw was a 346xp old edition thats why i got it but i think the saw in this video is a 346xp old edition!

[pheloniousmunk]

The new edition 346 has a silver clutch cover.

[kalob35]

5 stars

[plentze]

i have seen many felling trees videos but your video is one of the best.

[FeArfActOry6666]

KICK ASS SAW!!!!!!!

[domin1144]

spoko filmik pozdro

[miked420dude]

looks like a spacing job i did recently, cept we dont limb or buck, just leave it on the ground

[PBGVPBGV]

For the swedish forest industry mature timber is about 100 years old.

[hotmasil]

var i sverige????

[PBGVPBGV]

Dalarna. Ja, jag vet. Det är nog inte riktigt "i mitten av Sverige".

[marylover14]

maybe they just like bigger saws? who knows

[2cableguy]

This has got to be some of the most inefficient logging being doen anywhere in the world. I hope this vid is about twenty years old. Thinning stands by hand, manual delimbing, wow. I wonder if these guys even make enough money to eat or fill those saws with gas. Its not like they are cutting Mahogany.

[mmiszaak]

timbersports ;]

[mainetrucker]

those are peckerpoles anyway. come to america. The smallest tree I cut today was bigger than the largest tree in this vid. I cut stuff 3 feet+

[thekikker]

this is called thinning!! ??? hope you didn't got one of those 3 feet trees on your head

[mainetrucker]

I mena there are absolutely NO big trees in that vid. IT seems like there are no big trees over there. Im not tryin to be mean,I would just like someone from sweden to explain this lack of mature timber.

[thekikker]

true, I think it has been cut a few years ago. Must be private owned land and just for a hobby, like the video says its 40 years old that tree. Your 3 feet one are maybe over 200... sure they have bigger trees in Sweden. Remind that the middle of sweden is at the same height on this globe as the south point of alaska. takes time because its cold.

[PBGVPBGV]

Actually we don´t have the kind of big trees in Sweden like they do in America. I don´t know why.

You are right; it is private owned land and a hobby.

[thekikker]

1. different species

2. Its closer to the northpole. A lot!

[mainetrucker]

stihl sucks.... husky 372xp all the way

[mainetrucker]

those are toy saws.

[fordtractors4100]

you know you dont need a 75cc saw for small trees like that

[mainetrucker]

I know. Those are toy trees, too!!!

[PERPARSON]

buy yourself a stihl......stihl rocks

[fordtractors4100]

stihl sucks