oh know every western plane is a copy of a fuck up russian piss of shit plane , where the fuck do yo get that idea , if it was copy it would drop out off the skie like lots of russian desing planes
@usamilitarypowers we won't agree to disagree. Lets agree that you are ignorant and don't know your history. Go watch another countdown on the Military channel. You know they are not bias at all.
hmm russia copyed the calf project the b1 the f-22 the sr-71 the u2 (both failed badly) they copyed the f-18 the x-47b wow i can go forever oh and thrust vectoring usa had it on missiles first. (i could list way more)
Great video man ! people just gives u a lot of dislike because your video is true and they dont like that..especially when they see their precious F35 is just a copy from the Yak144M. All I can say is that why reinventing a new wheel rather than improves it and make it better.
@WakeUpDummies I didnt say the F35 like the Yak but it's a borrow concept of the Russian Yak. Through the history of technology countries has been known to copy each other to improve and advance. In this case the American scientists may have borrow the concept of Yak144M vertical lift. The F35 is by far superior to the Yak by many years ahead.
Yeah I dont think their is copyright infringement policies on aircraft designs... otherwise Russia, America, China, Germany, France, and Britain would all be sueing each other.
wrong about yak 141/ f 35. The technology was purchased officially and the yakovlev designers were paid emplyees during the designing fase . 1st- it was the cheapest way to go. 2nd- it was the time of Russia-US goodwill cooperation and Pentagon wanted to show a good face and give Kremlin money for actual work rather than a bribe. The final design however is not the same as on yak and f35 uses more sofisticated materials.
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The B-1 has been made for the Cold War Conflict, and information from agents has been passed by KGB to Tupelov aviation. The swept wing attack jets and the shuttles are same results as of B-1. The Makers of F-35 did not copy the Yak-41, THEY ACTUALLY BOUGH THE DESIGN AND ITS PATENT from YAK design beureau. even the stealth tech that american enjoys today are from russian researchers. But Chuck Norris keeps on playing them regularly.
Yak-141 (Yak-41M) used the aft variable nozzle design originally from Vought (US) firm. Of course Mig-15 was influenced by the German Ta-183. The Soyuz space capsule shape ( and the later Chinese type) was one of the early US Mercury capsule design study. The Soviets then realized long ago that it's cheaper to let the US spend billions on the R&D, then the Soviets can make their own version before the US Congress kill their own design.
Americans always spent billions to make stuff 'like USSR' - because when they do their own design, it fails. And there's nothing surprising, there can only be one way to do it right. Russians had a tendency to find it faster.
PAK FA is being an exception here. Fuck the oligarchs who stole the spenging budget.
@NosferatuAaacaado like USSR??? almost every great modern military advancement was made by americans and copied by russians decades later and proclaimed"better"by morons like yourself.in fact, everything that the russians have still fails in comparison to its american counterparts.
@NosferatuAaacaado accept the fact that in EVERY war that american technology has faced off against russian technology the russian tech was DECIMATED! just look at the 6-day war and the yom kippur war,complete and utter ANNIHILATION of russian tech by its american counterparts!
@hotpocketpoison there we go, the good ol' trump card the U.S. youtube war experts fire at you when they run out of options.
Your yelling isn't going to get you any far here.
But I'll be indulgent this one time. Listen carefully. 3 generation decimating 2nd generation happens because its *supposed* to happen. Otherwise, 3rd generation is useless.
Lastly, I just love how some of you are still trying to single out tech as the deciding factor of yom-kippur outcome. Remarkable fallacy.
@NosferatuAaacaado 3rd generation? LOL. you do realize that during the 6-day war Israelis used>M-4 SHERMANS<(1st generation tank)with upgraded guns and M-48s (2nd generation tanks) to destroy T-54,55,and 62s(all 2nd generation) and DECIMATED them even when they were at a 3-1 disadvantage. and you still havent told me when russian tech has EVER beat american tech(oh yeah, thats right, IT NEVER HAS XD)!
@NosferatuAaacaado you are not answering me smartass so i will ask you again WHEN HAS RUSSIAN TECH BEAT AMERICAN TECH??? just stop making a complete ass of yourself and admit you are WRONG!
@NosferatuAaacaado what? you mean when the egyptians were using state of the art ANTI-TANK ROCKETS,we are talking about russian tech beating its american>COUNTERPARTS<(like tank vs tank,or plane vs plane) not russian tech beating things that they were designed from the ground up to do. and the Israelis chose the merkava because they didnt want to be dependent on another country for military supplies,it makes PERFECT sense,if you arnt buying anything from another country you wont go into debt.
Tank battles were won in 1973 by using superior tactics (like crossing a river against egyptians) and massive topographic advantage (against syria). Not to mention the heroism of the tankers.
Israeli army nearly ceased to exist.
Plane vs plane. Mig 17 kicked a lot of Phantom F4 ass in Vietnam. 1 gen difference didn't help americans.
Rusian Mig23 killed Pakistani f16 in Afghan 1on1.
Tank vs Tank. Israeli M60s and Merkavas were raped by Sirian t-72s n lebanon. Same Gen.
@NosferatuAaacaado the majority of NVA fighters in vietnam were MIG-21s and the F-4 phantom is not designed to be an air superiority or an interceptor fighter,yet still managed to kill MANY more MIG-21s than F-4s.and the F-16 wasnt shot down by the MIG,it was hit by a friendly missile because the MIGs were on a ground attack role and thus unable to engage air threats(plus only 1 was shot down(friendly fire)).and when the hell were the Israelis tanks"raped"in lebanon??? NEVER!!! YOU FAIL AGAIN!!!
@hotpocketpoison usual range of 'war expert' excuses and 'but's' (especially laughable ones in the case of f-16), though you *may* have me on merkavas - which are not really american... =] And usual icing on the cake in form of a curious assumption that caps can make a statement true.
Regardless, I'm not inclined to compete in special olympics with someone like you.
Consider yourself a winrar and your national 'pride' and unwarranted optimism successfully defended.
@hotpocketpoison using yom-kipur as a proof of american tech superiority is akin to saying that battle of britain was won by superior brittish planes and therefore is a fallacy.
the SU-47(first flight 1997) is almost a carbon copy of the american X-29(first flight 1984)the SU-47 was just bigger and less practical. russians cant come up with JACK SHIT without copying off someone(mostly americans).
@hotpocketpoison this retard here is conveniently forgetting that x-29 failed, while su-47 overcame the problems it faced and proceeded to be used as a flying lab for future aircraft.
Just gtfo, you don't want to go any further, I promise you this.
@Tihamah3 Of course the MiG-25 design of the 1960s was influenced by the North American A-5 Vigilante design of the 1950s, except for the twin tails. Both A-5 and MiG-25 were designed as interceptors. F-15 was designed as a fighter from the beginning.
@Tihamah3 YAK has nothing to do with the Harrier, their V/STOL are two different concepts. The Harrier used a primitive design where the main engine had nozzles to bleed off some of the exhaust that would be routed to the wings and nose to provide control during V/STOL. The YAK design had the superior twin, and in case of the YAK-41 Freestyle three engine design. This meant more control during V/STOL since there was more power to maneuver the aircraft. This design was copied by the F-35.
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design piracy my ass, Lockheed Martin legitimately acquired the technology from the Yakovlev company. I can't believe you people could think such utter BS
All of you are forgetting it is only the F-35B that has anything to do with the Yak-141, and then the similarities are quite different. The rest of the F-35 series have nothing to do with it.
remember, there is a new stealth russian aircraft, the sukhoi t 50, and it is similar to the f 22, but with multiaxial thrust vectoring and canards.... my english sucks!!! anyway, watch it.... t 50!!!
Mutation/copying/sharing does occur :) everyone does it. Many things in the video are not very accurate. But if you look at history of cars you would find the same thing. To totally ignore the competitors innovations just because they did it is foolish for any corporation. It's just evolution.
Russians were always the best in aviation. usa were good in avionics and copping russians just that they improved their designs and used them.i think that is good they nacked things up.
Buran not a copy. At the orbit of his prints launch vehicle "energy". Capacity of 100 tons. On the orbit has more opportunities for maneuver. Buran has emerged as the development of "Spiral".
Author: read books, it is useful. Learn the technical side
@menfromspb I read all about it... Its called Russian espionage. There was not major technological development. Only another copy for the propaganda minister.
Good video, I don't think Russia copied off of the US in air craft technology,rather it was inspired by it. The US was once ahead of the game in electronic warfare and radar, the ideas pioneered by American scientists were mimicked with much higher ambitions and later developed into capacities unthoughtof. For example= no one thought that PESA could be developed to track stealth targets, but Russia took developments to heights that allowed such capacities, though PESA was invented by the West.
YAK 141 actually was something Americans, not matter how much money they wasted, couldn't fabricate at that point. And YAK 141 during testings proved to be superior to Harrier, but the Soviets were short on funds(When they weren't? XD).
Actually you proved that F35, project started later, is a hi-tech YAK141 RIPOFF!
But I'll help you boy; Yak38 probably was a 'Harrier' copy and according to that fact NATO named it as 'Forger'.
Your 'humble opinion' seems not to consider a thing called TIME-LINE.
it started w/ the copied atom bomb, they ever said this is how they biult there bomb, then stoled the b-29 bomber and all inside and confirmed it and to your stuff your showing GREAT VIDEO OH YEA THERE 1ST MIG ENGINE WAS A COPIED OF THE BRITISH JET WHAT A JOKE
None of these planes are duplicates of any other. Although they may seem similar, they are completely different designs.
I also noticed the F-35 VSTOL system resembling the Yak-141 concept. The major difference is that the Yak-141 used 2 turbojets dedicated for lift + the primary engine, whereas a lift fan drew its power from the single F-35 engine.
The F-35 is claimed to be the first supersonic VSTOL fighter... it's not. The Yak-141 outperformed the harrier in many ways.
Haha.... funny to say "piracy" here. It's like F1 racing... because car is designed to run 300km'/h in same conditions - all F1 cars look pretty the same!
Same about aircraft like this - shuttle or supersonic passengers craft cant look in a different way! Concept is the same, but if you look closer, u will see that they are far different. Only houswife can say, that it's a piracy. Look in detail.
First flight of Tu-144 - 1969 First flight of Concorde - 1970 Most important - wings design - different (Tu-144 - more progressive) Buran partly copied , but US Shuttle also used design of soviet prototype of 1960s and Buran-Energia - different idea than Shuttle-Fuel Tank
Why You not show F-15 (based on soviet E-266 idea) or B-2 (based on german design idea of 1940s)
This video main target - just show that russians - stupits???? Why not show chinese fighter - copy of israeli prototype???
During the 1954 U.S. Air Force pilot Tom Collins performed on this aircraft program comparative tests so that has allowed to reveal the actual level of the main characteristics of the Soviet Air Force fighter. American experts gave him very high marks.
Americans have solved this problem after the end of hostilities in Korea. September 20, 1953 North Korean Air Force Lieutenant Kim Sum but flew on a plane MiG-15 bis (plant number 2015337) into the territory of the Republic of Korea and surrendered. The car was transported to the U.S. airbase at Wright-Peterson.
F-15 was copied from hijacked a Soviet MiG-25 and F 18 was also embodied a stolen su (do not remember what exactly, too lazy to look)
and still have a lot of articles about how the Americans stole our planes
Attempts to capture the MiG-15 from the Americans did not succeed - our pilots were strictly ordered not to fly into the south of the conditional boundary line, runs along the 38 th parallel.
There's no question that the F-35B copies technology from the Yak-141, Lockheed says up front that they licensed the technology from Yakovlev. But if it's licensed and paid for is it still "piracy"?
One example of this is how they copied the F-15. I got a chance to compare the MIG-29 with the F-15 in person at an air museum. the the MIG-29 was only two years old and the F-15 was 17 years old. Plus the MIG-29 was flown only weeks earlier. The MIG-29 was a bucket of bolts compared to the F-15 and was very poorly built. Two F-15s also shot down five MIG-29's by themselves without eve pulling any hard maneuvers. I think U.S and European hardware is ten times better than Russian Hardware.
@srsairbags Only 15-20% of the A2A kills in Desert storm are BVR. and that's against old adversaries like MIG-23 who doesn't even have a proper ESM suit. the performance of the BVR missile before AMRAAM are marginal at best. that include both R-27 and AIM-7.
@LivingmanProductions Maybe back in the day it wasnt that good but now we cant bring on to russia any more.. if they have the economics on track they can produce so many good tanks (t-95) planes (pak-fa) and military they have enough...
@YUSKHAN ehhmm russia stole german tech, UK stole german tech and USA stole german tech. EVERY SINGLE VICTOR OF WW2 COPIED GERMAN TECH NOT ONLY USA NOT ONLY UK AND NOT ONLY RUSSIA EVERYONE DID SO STFU AND LEARN YOUR FACTS
@LivingmanProductions i think you have a bias opinion based more off of nationalism then actual knowledge. did you have a chance to fly both of these planes? the American federation of scientists compared the F-15 to the MIG-29 and found that the MIG-29 was equal if not better then the F-15 in many areas. if the F-15 is better like you say, why are developing countries not sighning contracts with lockheed martin? instead they do it with SU and MIG. ( i mean india, china etc).
@WakeUpDummies The F-15 is a MULTIROLE fighter and the MiG-25 is a recon/interceptor. I also know F-15 has a perfect combat record for killing MiG-21's and OUTDATED Mirages.
@WakeUpDummies 12 of the 32 Sr-71's met their fate and burned in hell. One of which is SR-71 953 that crashed Dec.1961 killing pilot.Yeah sure, the same F-15E that was shot down in Libya
@999cheetos999 Of course a handful of SR-71s were destroyed. It lives on the edge of a knife dude... Its a badass machine by any standards but when you look at how long ago it was produced it makes it more badass.
The F15E "went down" but was not shot down over Libya.
@WakeUpDummies Yes, just like those Horten Stealth Bombers that the Nazis came up with in WWII.I dont trust that "went down" thing they are just after propaganda, excuses.
@999cheetos999 The Horton was a joke and as stealty as my penis fullly erect and plated in gold.Oh it certainly went down.... mechanical issues started it then they shot the shit out of it (scuttled) to destroy as much as they could to avoid some unimagiative fucker from stealing the techology.
@WakeUpDummies The Horton proved it was stealthy using shape RCS to confuse radar, it worked, but triangle shaped planes have fucking horrible aerodynamics (ex. B-2 bomber) thats why it needs computers to work, which the nazis never had. Hey even the RAM coating was from the Germans, Sumpf and Shornsteinfeigers material.
@USAmilitarypower Nope not really, and look out! History hits you in face!!
-Tu-160 is not a copy of B-1, Tu-160 is strategic missile launcher, is bigger, doesnt use canard wings, faster,greater range and has more internal payload.Tu-22M is the Soviet response to B-1
-Stealth RCS demands triangular/diamond wing design, ALL stealth aircraft should have one shape, but triangle is CRAP.The wings of the PAK-FA is similar,nothing else
-Who wants to copy Sr-71,MiG-25 has almost same speed has weapons
@USAmilitarypower SR-71 relies on speed mach 3.3+ while remaining in high altitude, a MiG-25 can do what an SR-71 can do but with less speed mach 3.0 and can fire missiles. As I said, the B-1 has an aerodynamic FLAW that made it use canard wings for balance, the Tu-160 is faster, doesnt need canard wings, more internal payload and uses whiteflash paint. Also, if the Russians copied B-1 then the Tu-160 would crash all the time....FAIL
@USAmilitarypower I know it goes mach 3.5,but it also crashes alot. Not really "outrun", there was a Russian SAM in the 60's called S-125, pretty much had missiles that go mach 3.5,...anything in later years is overpowered. The B-1 has canards, really small ones but it drastically improves the B-1's aerodynamics
@LivingmanProductions no way, both countries spy on each other, to monitor what the other is doing. But "copying" a design, and change some specification would be more difficult that making a new design from the scratch, any designer or engineer knows that. ieg: the change of the location of the engines in the tu-144 vs the concorde, would have required years of recalculation and tests even with actual processing power.
All Russian planes are a copy of American planese, becouse they all have wings and wheels, like all American planes. But F15/F14/18 is a copy of MIG25. MIG25 was first plane with twin vertical stabilizators. TU 160 don't looks like B1 at all, but primitive people think it does. TU 160 is every way better than B1. Shattle is a copy of MIG105. And wings on F86 was agested after MIG15. If someone copyes "MONALISA" and that copy is better than original, than it's not a copy.
@AINGELPROJECT667 Yes take a good look at PAK FA, what you see as a copy it has wings, two engens and wheels like F22, that's you call a copy? PAK FA didn't looks like F22 at all, it's 95% different plane, at all point, than F22. But you find this if you have eyes on your head, not if you have eyes in your ass.
Fairly straightforward and common knowledge I would have thought. Another good example would be the Mig-15 and the F-86, they both look very similiar too. Im pretty sure the makers of all the aircrafts dont see it as copying though, its more to do with advancement, we advance not without applying what we already know and im sure that applies with aircraft, much as it would with any other subject.
The Mig 15 looks strikingly similiar to the Mig-9 and to me the Mig-9 looks strikingly similiar to Folk Wulfs Ta-183. Im pretty sure the Russians borrowed many ideas from German research and since the western world got most of the German scientists, im pretty sure the Americans were also influenced by German research too. For both sides to make a similiar aircraft based on that idea, would not be suprising to me. Although im not saying its the truth, but its a reasonable thought.
@srsairbags Of course YAK141 is a copy of F35, and MIG25 is a copy of F15, MIG105 is copy of a Shattle, TU144 is copy of a CONCORDE, but Russians must be using a TIME MASHIN to copyed. BUT TIME MASHIN IT'SELF IN NOT A COPY, IT'S RUSSIAN INOVATION.
@akavishwadeep no it doesnt, it plainly says that the YAK was copied by.... LOL the F-35. Rewatch the video and read. He plainly says the YAK 41M flew in 1981 and the F-35 flew in 2006, how the hell is he saying the F-35 copied the YAK when its first flight was 25 years after the YAK?
@srsairbags actually F-35 program started in 1985 under the ATF program which would design a VSTOL aircraft similar to the F-22 project. So infact its another copy by the russians. they can't build anything. Look up the Tu-2 It's a B-29.
vertical thrust technology was copied, because of which the F22 project was stuck for years until the input of Russians who worked on Yak 141. You can find the documentary on youtube as well
@srsairbags F22 (vertical aircraft takeoff and landing version for NAVY) and F35 uses the same technology. Not sure if F22 of that modification was ever placed in production, so, yes,, F35.
@bobrevich It's not piracy. Lockheed Martin bought the design rights from Yakovlev and they did mentioned the Yak-141 influence in F-35 design. i know, i've read the presentation paper.
@srsairbags Tu =/= B1, simply because they don't share the same role. B1 is a supersonic bomber and the Tu is a standoff missile platform--also much, much larger. Also the Tu is a copy of the planned US B1 proj
russian military are assholes they gotta do every thing better
zeeman707 1 week ago
Interesting stuff. The one I didn't know was the B1-B/TU160 copy.
The MIG-21 has similarities to the English Electric Lightning though the wings are different.
TheBrit1964 1 month ago
Hey douchebag ever heard the saying "FORM FOLLOWS FUNCTION??"
Princeduclare 1 month ago
piracy? f..k you
Kill0406 1 month ago
oh know every western plane is a copy of a fuck up russian piss of shit plane , where the fuck do yo get that idea , if it was copy it would drop out off the skie like lots of russian desing planes
andrejerome12 2 months ago
@usamilitarypowers we won't agree to disagree. Lets agree that you are ignorant and don't know your history. Go watch another countdown on the Military channel. You know they are not bias at all.
radvolk 2 months ago
lockheed martin had the first version of the supersonic commercial aircraft
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
hmm russia copyed the calf project the b1 the f-22 the sr-71 the u2 (both failed badly) they copyed the f-18 the x-47b wow i can go forever oh and thrust vectoring usa had it on missiles first. (i could list way more)
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
R-U-S-S-I-A: We don't invent all the airplanes you see in the air. We make the airplanes you see in the air...BETTER!
radvolk 2 months ago
@radvolk Correction: They 'try' to make them better
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@radvolk NO!!!!
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
Great video man ! people just gives u a lot of dislike because your video is true and they dont like that..especially when they see their precious F35 is just a copy from the Yak144M. All I can say is that why reinventing a new wheel rather than improves it and make it better.
zero00tolerance 3 months ago
@zero00tolerance thanks dude . . appreciate it
srsairbags 3 months ago
@zero00tolerance Nigga please! The F35 is in no way like the Yak
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@WakeUpDummies I didnt say the F35 like the Yak but it's a borrow concept of the Russian Yak. Through the history of technology countries has been known to copy each other to improve and advance. In this case the American scientists may have borrow the concept of Yak144M vertical lift. The F35 is by far superior to the Yak by many years ahead.
zero00tolerance 2 months ago
@zero00tolerance True enough. I was gonna say cuz the Yak is a dog. And the Chinese are pros at stealing everyone elses shit :)
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@zero00tolerance how do you know the dislikes arent from Russians who are mad that he pointed about 4 things they copied from the US?
Direwolf56 2 months ago
HATE!!!!!!!!!!
jk. Cool vid.
IauthenticI 3 months ago
Yeah I dont think their is copyright infringement policies on aircraft designs... otherwise Russia, America, China, Germany, France, and Britain would all be sueing each other.
dogfight001 3 months ago
wrong about yak 141/ f 35. The technology was purchased officially and the yakovlev designers were paid emplyees during the designing fase . 1st- it was the cheapest way to go. 2nd- it was the time of Russia-US goodwill cooperation and Pentagon wanted to show a good face and give Kremlin money for actual work rather than a bribe. The final design however is not the same as on yak and f35 uses more sofisticated materials.
wwaalltthheerr 3 months ago 5
@wwaalltthheerr <---The knowledge is great with this one.
IauthenticI 3 months ago
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The B-1 has been made for the Cold War Conflict, and information from agents has been passed by KGB to Tupelov aviation. The swept wing attack jets and the shuttles are same results as of B-1. The Makers of F-35 did not copy the Yak-41, THEY ACTUALLY BOUGH THE DESIGN AND ITS PATENT from YAK design beureau. even the stealth tech that american enjoys today are from russian researchers. But Chuck Norris keeps on playing them regularly.
engeng1234 4 months ago
Yak-141 (Yak-41M) used the aft variable nozzle design originally from Vought (US) firm. Of course Mig-15 was influenced by the German Ta-183. The Soyuz space capsule shape ( and the later Chinese type) was one of the early US Mercury capsule design study. The Soviets then realized long ago that it's cheaper to let the US spend billions on the R&D, then the Soviets can make their own version before the US Congress kill their own design.
CaptainNomura 4 months ago
if some of these were copy of soviet design then how did they flew before the original?
anuragt 5 months ago
You are crazy
Migsu 5 months ago
russia have omly TOPOL just atom bomb aircraft is a lol
thugRPG 6 months ago
russia just lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll nothing
thugRPG 6 months ago
Americans always spent billions to make stuff 'like USSR' - because when they do their own design, it fails. And there's nothing surprising, there can only be one way to do it right. Russians had a tendency to find it faster.
PAK FA is being an exception here. Fuck the oligarchs who stole the spenging budget.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado like USSR??? almost every great modern military advancement was made by americans and copied by russians decades later and proclaimed"better"by morons like yourself.in fact, everything that the russians have still fails in comparison to its american counterparts.
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison oh I see I got a 12 year old shitting bricks because of my little post. And they say trolling is an art.
If you really wanna go there, everything was coined by germans.
Besides, you didn't really catch on what the real message was. Not surprising with the level of maturity you demonstrate here.
And for that Last curious set of fallacies - you hardly have any proof or evidence beyond crappy simulations. In fact, no one here has any data.
GTFO
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado accept the fact that in EVERY war that american technology has faced off against russian technology the russian tech was DECIMATED! just look at the 6-day war and the yom kippur war,complete and utter ANNIHILATION of russian tech by its american counterparts!
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison there we go, the good ol' trump card the U.S. youtube war experts fire at you when they run out of options.
Your yelling isn't going to get you any far here.
But I'll be indulgent this one time. Listen carefully. 3 generation decimating 2nd generation happens because its *supposed* to happen. Otherwise, 3rd generation is useless.
Lastly, I just love how some of you are still trying to single out tech as the deciding factor of yom-kippur outcome. Remarkable fallacy.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado 3rd generation? LOL. you do realize that during the 6-day war Israelis used>M-4 SHERMANS<(1st generation tank)with upgraded guns and M-48s (2nd generation tanks) to destroy T-54,55,and 62s(all 2nd generation) and DECIMATED them even when they were at a 3-1 disadvantage. and you still havent told me when russian tech has EVER beat american tech(oh yeah, thats right, IT NEVER HAS XD)!
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison way to show your actual knowledge of yom-kipur war.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado you are not answering me smartass so i will ask you again WHEN HAS RUSSIAN TECH BEAT AMERICAN TECH??? just stop making a complete ass of yourself and admit you are WRONG!
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison hahahahaha what a fucking dork you are. Typical american.
' WHEN HAS RUSSIAN TECH BEAT AMERICAN TECH???'
In the same fucking yom kipur war, during the first days. Israelis were assraped. Read the military docs.
If american tech proved so good for Israel - why did they make merkavas?
I love how you are omitting the whole course of the war just when it is convenient for your asshat arguments.
Again, GTFO.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado what? you mean when the egyptians were using state of the art ANTI-TANK ROCKETS,we are talking about russian tech beating its american>COUNTERPARTS<(like tank vs tank,or plane vs plane) not russian tech beating things that they were designed from the ground up to do. and the Israelis chose the merkava because they didnt want to be dependent on another country for military supplies,it makes PERFECT sense,if you arnt buying anything from another country you wont go into debt.
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison *sigh*
Tank battles were won in 1973 by using superior tactics (like crossing a river against egyptians) and massive topographic advantage (against syria). Not to mention the heroism of the tankers.
Israeli army nearly ceased to exist.
Plane vs plane. Mig 17 kicked a lot of Phantom F4 ass in Vietnam. 1 gen difference didn't help americans.
Rusian Mig23 killed Pakistani f16 in Afghan 1on1.
Tank vs Tank. Israeli M60s and Merkavas were raped by Sirian t-72s n lebanon. Same Gen.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado the majority of NVA fighters in vietnam were MIG-21s and the F-4 phantom is not designed to be an air superiority or an interceptor fighter,yet still managed to kill MANY more MIG-21s than F-4s.and the F-16 wasnt shot down by the MIG,it was hit by a friendly missile because the MIGs were on a ground attack role and thus unable to engage air threats(plus only 1 was shot down(friendly fire)).and when the hell were the Israelis tanks"raped"in lebanon??? NEVER!!! YOU FAIL AGAIN!!!
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison usual range of 'war expert' excuses and 'but's' (especially laughable ones in the case of f-16), though you *may* have me on merkavas - which are not really american... =] And usual icing on the cake in form of a curious assumption that caps can make a statement true.
Regardless, I'm not inclined to compete in special olympics with someone like you.
Consider yourself a winrar and your national 'pride' and unwarranted optimism successfully defended.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado lol, i guess that was a good way to basically admit you are an idiot XD
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison yup. It is. Better an idiot than a dumbfuckistani.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison using yom-kipur as a proof of american tech superiority is akin to saying that battle of britain was won by superior brittish planes and therefore is a fallacy.
Wisen up.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
as for 6 day war - again, superior tactics, topographical advantage and air superiority.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
the SU-47(first flight 1997) is almost a carbon copy of the american X-29(first flight 1984)the SU-47 was just bigger and less practical. russians cant come up with JACK SHIT without copying off someone(mostly americans).
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison hahahaha just gtfo you fucking fail
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
@NosferatuAaacaado oh really? how about you look up both planes. and see how fail this russian POS is.
hotpocketpoison 6 months ago
@hotpocketpoison this retard here is conveniently forgetting that x-29 failed, while su-47 overcame the problems it faced and proceeded to be used as a flying lab for future aircraft.
Just gtfo, you don't want to go any further, I promise you this.
NosferatuAaacaado 6 months ago
F-15 is a copy of MIG-25, Yak is copy of the british harrier, you got those two wrong.
Tihamah3 7 months ago
@Tihamah3 the british harrier has a completely different V/STOL operation than that of the YAK . . . F35 uses similar setup of the YAK
srsairbags 7 months ago 10
@Tihamah3 Of course the MiG-25 design of the 1960s was influenced by the North American A-5 Vigilante design of the 1950s, except for the twin tails. Both A-5 and MiG-25 were designed as interceptors. F-15 was designed as a fighter from the beginning.
CaptainNomura 4 months ago
@Tihamah3 and the f18 looks like mig 25 too.. atleast the f17 did. not that paki plane but the prototype for the f18 looked like the mig 25 ..
SMJeOma 3 months ago
@Tihamah3 get your intel right before posting comments ;)
7249xxl 2 months ago
@Tihamah3 YAK has nothing to do with the Harrier, their V/STOL are two different concepts. The Harrier used a primitive design where the main engine had nozzles to bleed off some of the exhaust that would be routed to the wings and nose to provide control during V/STOL. The YAK design had the superior twin, and in case of the YAK-41 Freestyle three engine design. This meant more control during V/STOL since there was more power to maneuver the aircraft. This design was copied by the F-35.
Chetnik313 2 months ago
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TheTheThientri 8 months ago
if u want to talk about copying..look at the chinese lol. they illegally copy soo many soviet/russian hardwares.
khmerog1 8 months ago
for every B1 fanboys.... the Soviet TU22M was first.
jijdom 8 months ago
Clearly Shenyang J-15 is a clone of the Sukhoi Su-33...and chinese J-11 that of Su-27.
What about the idea of Northrop B-2 (1989) being inspired by Horten Ho-229 (1945)? MiG-25 (ca. 1970) vs F-15 (1973)...
razbojnik66 8 months ago
design piracy my ass, Lockheed Martin legitimately acquired the technology from the Yakovlev company. I can't believe you people could think such utter BS
dragontail2k6 8 months ago
alternathistory . org.ua / legkii-shturmovik-magnust russians are coping thunderbolt.
ORKSIZDABEST 9 months ago
...And B1' s shape and wings was pirated from russian 3 generation plane
TheTimurbest 9 months ago
NAZI V1, V2 ROCKET COPY RUSSIAN , AMERICAN BY STOLEN THEIR EGINERING
MalinGenGTEAM1970 9 months ago
ok know that the TU-144 flew for the first time on 31-12-1968 and introduced in 1975 and the concorde was introduced in 1976....
papson007 10 months ago
TU 144 is a copy?? You are a fool!! It was even faster than concorde!
911Investigate911 1 year ago
You said: "I personally love russian hardware..."
Which means that you hate american hardware?
WarIsNeverPretty 1 year ago
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Hairysteed 10 months ago
@WarIsNeverPretty No. It means he hates Russian software
Hairysteed 10 months ago
The american have a master class of copying other!!!!!!! then claiming it thiers
YUSKHAN 1 year ago
creators of F-35 didn't stole anything, they bought blueprints of Yak-41 to create vertical taking-off fighter.
pacanas9999 1 year ago
That's not piracy, those are the aerodinamic config demands for such tasks
makinamati 1 year ago
Too bad Lockheed paid yakolev 400 million in design patents for the technology, I did not know pirates pays for things....
szamulinsky 1 year ago
@szamulinsky CALL IT "HONOR AMONG PIRATES"
Shiver me timber, ehh!
emancoy 1 year ago
The Tupolev-144 flew 1 year before Concorde... Just let u know
FreestylaBoy 1 year ago
What about the 757 & TU-214?
theaircraftgeek12 1 year ago
All of you are forgetting it is only the F-35B that has anything to do with the Yak-141, and then the similarities are quite different. The rest of the F-35 series have nothing to do with it.
stalkingalizee 1 year ago
Thank you for sharing. I appreciated your fairness and impartiality
Sohrob1 1 year ago
Not real sure about the f-35, the vertical thrust system is completely different than the freestyle....
geekfish 1 year ago
Why USA can't a copy AK?
vaninec 1 year ago
@vaninec Well the AK is no more than a copy to the father of all assault rifles the STG 44
thegreatleviathan0 1 year ago
@thegreatleviathan0
well if so The original prototype STG-44 a COPY of Czechoslovak ZB ( fired from an open bolt
SO germany copy too
Nothing never MADE from a Zero
just like evolution :-)
vaninec 1 year ago
@thegreatleviathan0
plus Russia produced Czechoslovakian ZB vz. 26, light machine gun under licence with the desgnation of the BRNO
vaninec 1 year ago
@thegreatleviathan0
The AK-47 does not have any simmiliarity with StG-44 whatsoever. It is completely different design with completely different mechanisms inside.
VTBbank 1 year ago
remember, there is a new stealth russian aircraft, the sukhoi t 50, and it is similar to the f 22, but with multiaxial thrust vectoring and canards.... my english sucks!!! anyway, watch it.... t 50!!!
vientojuggler 1 year ago
Mutation/copying/sharing does occur :) everyone does it. Many things in the video are not very accurate. But if you look at history of cars you would find the same thing. To totally ignore the competitors innovations just because they did it is foolish for any corporation. It's just evolution.
vmorgun 1 year ago
the u.s copies of the soviets plane:
super sabre f86 was a copy of the mig15, f15 was copy of the soviet mig25, f35 is a copy of yah141.
powerofthroughts 1 year ago
Tu-160 looks entirely different when it first came out, it is developed off Tu-144 and is an entirely different class of aircraft
Concorde was copied off of a Russian jet, that is widely known in the aircraft industry
F-35B LEGALLY copied the Yak, Lockheed Martin clearly says it bought plans from Yakovlev on their website
Su-24 is based on the Su-15
The shuttle design is similar aerodynamically, but superior in many ways, and you have to NASA shuttle is based on the Spiral, a Russian aircraft
adrastea99 1 year ago
Russians were always the best in aviation. usa were good in avionics and copping russians just that they improved their designs and used them.i think that is good they nacked things up.
akavishwadeep 1 year ago
i think mig-29 is a copy of f-14 super tomcat. f-15 eagle "became" su-35. su-35 uses 2 in 1 planer conception same as f-15.
usfootman 1 year ago
Buran not a copy. At the orbit of his prints launch vehicle "energy". Capacity of 100 tons. On the orbit has more opportunities for maneuver. Buran has emerged as the development of "Spiral".
Author: read books, it is useful. Learn the technical side
menfromspb 1 year ago
@menfromspb I read all about it... Its called Russian espionage. There was not major technological development. Only another copy for the propaganda minister.
brentsrx7 1 year ago
You forgot that the Bell X1's all-moving tailplane was from the Miles M52!
OgdenCalpo 1 year ago 2
Good video, I don't think Russia copied off of the US in air craft technology,rather it was inspired by it. The US was once ahead of the game in electronic warfare and radar, the ideas pioneered by American scientists were mimicked with much higher ambitions and later developed into capacities unthoughtof. For example= no one thought that PESA could be developed to track stealth targets, but Russia took developments to heights that allowed such capacities, though PESA was invented by the West.
30DOTCOM 1 year ago
YAK 141 actually was something Americans, not matter how much money they wasted, couldn't fabricate at that point. And YAK 141 during testings proved to be superior to Harrier, but the Soviets were short on funds(When they weren't? XD).
Actually you proved that F35, project started later, is a hi-tech YAK141 RIPOFF!
But I'll help you boy; Yak38 probably was a 'Harrier' copy and according to that fact NATO named it as 'Forger'.
Your 'humble opinion' seems not to consider a thing called TIME-LINE.
Orthodoxcrusader 1 year ago
it started w/ the copied atom bomb, they ever said this is how they biult there bomb, then stoled the b-29 bomber and all inside and confirmed it and to your stuff your showing GREAT VIDEO OH YEA THERE 1ST MIG ENGINE WAS A COPIED OF THE BRITISH JET WHAT A JOKE
Conservativepacheat 1 year ago
but u forget tha our copies are always beter^^
pR05t0 1 year ago
wow, you guys are arguing as if this actually matters and the US and Russia DONT* hate each other... its competition... derp
Marshallnd 1 year ago
None of these planes are duplicates of any other. Although they may seem similar, they are completely different designs.
I also noticed the F-35 VSTOL system resembling the Yak-141 concept. The major difference is that the Yak-141 used 2 turbojets dedicated for lift + the primary engine, whereas a lift fan drew its power from the single F-35 engine.
The F-35 is claimed to be the first supersonic VSTOL fighter... it's not. The Yak-141 outperformed the harrier in many ways.
BattleshipAgincourt 1 year ago
Haha.... funny to say "piracy" here. It's like F1 racing... because car is designed to run 300km'/h in same conditions - all F1 cars look pretty the same!
Same about aircraft like this - shuttle or supersonic passengers craft cant look in a different way! Concept is the same, but if you look closer, u will see that they are far different. Only houswife can say, that it's a piracy. Look in detail.
EvgenyVostok 1 year ago
well, there is no reason to re-invent the wheel.
good idea will spread quickly.
and that's why there is provision for expiration of patterns.
simhopp 1 year ago
Only idiots can name this "piracy".
For example, Tu-160 has similar shapes to B-1, but it's TOTALLY DIFFERENT aircraft with its own engines, airframe, equipment, weapons etc. etc. etc.
These planes ARE NOT copies or replicas.
ukrainesuperpower87 1 year ago
great re .. o_0
avishekwinfast 1 year ago
do you know some facts about nuclear technology borrowing just after WWII to help SU get parity with USA. Of course with Kurchatov assistance.
TheAigllilliaa 1 year ago
You think your covops geeks will call it:"cooperation."
TheAigllilliaa 1 year ago
First flight of Tu-144 - 1969 First flight of Concorde - 1970 Most important - wings design - different (Tu-144 - more progressive) Buran partly copied , but US Shuttle also used design of soviet prototype of 1960s and Buran-Energia - different idea than Shuttle-Fuel Tank
Why You not show F-15 (based on soviet E-266 idea) or B-2 (based on german design idea of 1940s)
This video main target - just show that russians - stupits???? Why not show chinese fighter - copy of israeli prototype???
MegaStervo4ka 1 year ago
and also YAK 141 tech have been stolen and u have made ur F 35 (really failed in this fighter)
Detroy90player 1 year ago
During the 1954 U.S. Air Force pilot Tom Collins performed on this aircraft program comparative tests so that has allowed to reveal the actual level of the main characteristics of the Soviet Air Force fighter. American experts gave him very high marks.
Detroy90player 1 year ago
Americans have solved this problem after the end of hostilities in Korea. September 20, 1953 North Korean Air Force Lieutenant Kim Sum but flew on a plane MiG-15 bis (plant number 2015337) into the territory of the Republic of Korea and surrendered. The car was transported to the U.S. airbase at Wright-Peterson.
Detroy90player 1 year ago
F-15 was copied from hijacked a Soviet MiG-25 and F 18 was also embodied a stolen su (do not remember what exactly, too lazy to look)
and still have a lot of articles about how the Americans stole our planes
Attempts to capture the MiG-15 from the Americans did not succeed - our pilots were strictly ordered not to fly into the south of the conditional boundary line, runs along the 38 th parallel.
Detroy90player 1 year ago
@Detroy90player Just remember, you guys stole our B-29 first.
AINGELPROJECT667 1 year ago
might be but u have stolen our aircraft too
Detroy90player 1 year ago
@Detroy90player
To tell the truth, I stopped caring about who steals what a long time ago.
The USAF can make anything they want for all I care, as long as they don't start flying Migs. I'm not sure why, but that would just seem awkward.
AINGELPROJECT667 1 year ago
Here's one for you. Russian Tu-4, an exact copy of the B-29.
pctshooter 1 year ago
There's no question that the F-35B copies technology from the Yak-141, Lockheed says up front that they licensed the technology from Yakovlev. But if it's licensed and paid for is it still "piracy"?
jcl4k3 2 years ago
@jcl4k3
Yes!
bhartha2007 1 year ago
Sorry for the worlds longest comment (I meant European as in France, Britain Italy and Germany.)
LivingmanProductions 2 years ago
One example of this is how they copied the F-15. I got a chance to compare the MIG-29 with the F-15 in person at an air museum. the the MIG-29 was only two years old and the F-15 was 17 years old. Plus the MIG-29 was flown only weeks earlier. The MIG-29 was a bucket of bolts compared to the F-15 and was very poorly built. Two F-15s also shot down five MIG-29's by themselves without eve pulling any hard maneuvers. I think U.S and European hardware is ten times better than Russian Hardware.
LivingmanProductions 2 years ago
i dont consider the iraq war a good F15 vs Mig29 scenario, i wont be surprised if all the kills were BVR . .
srsairbags 2 years ago
@srsairbags The best scenarios to gauge the F-15's performance is in the air battles that the Israelis have been in
jonboogy 1 year ago
@srsairbags Only 15-20% of the A2A kills in Desert storm are BVR. and that's against old adversaries like MIG-23 who doesn't even have a proper ESM suit. the performance of the BVR missile before AMRAAM are marginal at best. that include both R-27 and AIM-7.
phadil 1 year ago
@srsairbags the most where
SMJeOma 1 year ago
@srsairbags
F15 were blown out the sky in 2008 by Russia
YUSKHAN 1 year ago
@LivingmanProductions yea that because russians were always selling monkey models to countries like iraq....
rxueloenz 1 year ago
@LivingmanProductions Maybe back in the day it wasnt that good but now we cant bring on to russia any more.. if they have the economics on track they can produce so many good tanks (t-95) planes (pak-fa) and military they have enough...
SMJeOma 1 year ago
@LivingmanProductions thats the iraqi war.
emancoy 1 year ago
@LivingmanProductions
american tech lost in 2008 against Russia, americans stole all the german tech after ww2
YUSKHAN 1 year ago
@YUSKHAN ehhmm russia stole german tech, UK stole german tech and USA stole german tech. EVERY SINGLE VICTOR OF WW2 COPIED GERMAN TECH NOT ONLY USA NOT ONLY UK AND NOT ONLY RUSSIA EVERYONE DID SO STFU AND LEARN YOUR FACTS
369NICK963 1 year ago
@LivingmanProductions i think you have a bias opinion based more off of nationalism then actual knowledge. did you have a chance to fly both of these planes? the American federation of scientists compared the F-15 to the MIG-29 and found that the MIG-29 was equal if not better then the F-15 in many areas. if the F-15 is better like you say, why are developing countries not sighning contracts with lockheed martin? instead they do it with SU and MIG. ( i mean india, china etc).
KitchenSpeclol 1 year ago
@LivingmanProductions Isnt the F-15 a copy of the Mig-25?
999cheetos999 1 year ago 4
@999cheetos999
The primary difference between them is that the F-15 has a perfect combat record
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@WakeUpDummies The F-15 is a MULTIROLE fighter and the MiG-25 is a recon/interceptor. I also know F-15 has a perfect combat record for killing MiG-21's and OUTDATED Mirages.
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 The F-15E would be a formiddable foe for pretty much anything out there today
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@WakeUpDummies 12 of the 32 Sr-71's met their fate and burned in hell. One of which is SR-71 953 that crashed Dec.1961 killing pilot.Yeah sure, the same F-15E that was shot down in Libya
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 Of course a handful of SR-71s were destroyed. It lives on the edge of a knife dude... Its a badass machine by any standards but when you look at how long ago it was produced it makes it more badass.
The F15E "went down" but was not shot down over Libya.
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@WakeUpDummies Yes, just like those Horten Stealth Bombers that the Nazis came up with in WWII.I dont trust that "went down" thing they are just after propaganda, excuses.
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 The Horton was a joke and as stealty as my penis fullly erect and plated in gold.Oh it certainly went down.... mechanical issues started it then they shot the shit out of it (scuttled) to destroy as much as they could to avoid some unimagiative fucker from stealing the techology.
WakeUpDummies 2 months ago
@WakeUpDummies The Horton proved it was stealthy using shape RCS to confuse radar, it worked, but triangle shaped planes have fucking horrible aerodynamics (ex. B-2 bomber) thats why it needs computers to work, which the nazis never had. Hey even the RAM coating was from the Germans, Sumpf and Shornsteinfeigers material.
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 hell no they look so diffrent
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
@USAmilitarypower Nope not really, and look out! History hits you in face!!
-Tu-160 is not a copy of B-1, Tu-160 is strategic missile launcher, is bigger, doesnt use canard wings, faster,greater range and has more internal payload.Tu-22M is the Soviet response to B-1
-Stealth RCS demands triangular/diamond wing design, ALL stealth aircraft should have one shape, but triangle is CRAP.The wings of the PAK-FA is similar,nothing else
-Who wants to copy Sr-71,MiG-25 has almost same speed has weapons
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 dude the SR-71 is WAY MORE ADVANCED THAN THE mig-25. And the mig-25 is manly a intersepter. and the tu160 copy of the b1's designee.
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
@USAmilitarypower SR-71 relies on speed mach 3.3+ while remaining in high altitude, a MiG-25 can do what an SR-71 can do but with less speed mach 3.0 and can fire missiles. As I said, the B-1 has an aerodynamic FLAW that made it use canard wings for balance, the Tu-160 is faster, doesnt need canard wings, more internal payload and uses whiteflash paint. Also, if the Russians copied B-1 then the Tu-160 would crash all the time....FAIL
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 the fastes a sr-71 went mach 3.5 that could out run any missile even in the 80's and the b-1 dosnt have canards?
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
@USAmilitarypower I know it goes mach 3.5,but it also crashes alot. Not really "outrun", there was a Russian SAM in the 60's called S-125, pretty much had missiles that go mach 3.5,...anything in later years is overpowered. The B-1 has canards, really small ones but it drastically improves the B-1's aerodynamics
999cheetos999 2 months ago
@999cheetos999 when the hell did the sr-71 crash?
USAmilitarypower 2 months ago
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wackokicker 11 months ago
@LivingmanProductions no way, both countries spy on each other, to monitor what the other is doing. But "copying" a design, and change some specification would be more difficult that making a new design from the scratch, any designer or engineer knows that. ieg: the change of the location of the engines in the tu-144 vs the concorde, would have required years of recalculation and tests even with actual processing power.
wackokicker 11 months ago
@LivingmanProductions Never compare a fucking iraqi or arab crappy MiGs,don´t EVER COMPARE THEM with Russian built and operated MiGs
And,needless to say....you´re air victories worth nothing...
MiguelAresta 7 months ago
All Russian planes are a copy of American planese, becouse they all have wings and wheels, like all American planes. But F15/F14/18 is a copy of MIG25. MIG25 was first plane with twin vertical stabilizators. TU 160 don't looks like B1 at all, but primitive people think it does. TU 160 is every way better than B1. Shattle is a copy of MIG105. And wings on F86 was agested after MIG15. If someone copyes "MONALISA" and that copy is better than original, than it's not a copy.
mikeplay007 2 years ago
@mikeplay007
you sooo right
vaninec 2 years ago
@mikeplay007
And now Russia is copying the F-22.
Just take a good look at the Sukhoi PAK FA.
AINGELPROJECT667 1 year ago
@AINGELPROJECT667 Yes take a good look at PAK FA, what you see as a copy it has wings, two engens and wheels like F22, that's you call a copy? PAK FA didn't looks like F22 at all, it's 95% different plane, at all point, than F22. But you find this if you have eyes on your head, not if you have eyes in your ass.
mikeplay007 1 year ago
Fairly straightforward and common knowledge I would have thought. Another good example would be the Mig-15 and the F-86, they both look very similiar too. Im pretty sure the makers of all the aircrafts dont see it as copying though, its more to do with advancement, we advance not without applying what we already know and im sure that applies with aircraft, much as it would with any other subject.
Irishlad23ni 2 years ago
Yes, but the F-86 and Mig-15 designers didn't know each others aircraft existed, so that's out of the question.
TheEvilAmerican 2 years ago
The Mig 15 looks strikingly similiar to the Mig-9 and to me the Mig-9 looks strikingly similiar to Folk Wulfs Ta-183. Im pretty sure the Russians borrowed many ideas from German research and since the western world got most of the German scientists, im pretty sure the Americans were also influenced by German research too. For both sides to make a similiar aircraft based on that idea, would not be suprising to me. Although im not saying its the truth, but its a reasonable thought.
Irishlad23ni 2 years ago
Well of course, German design influenced nearly everything.
TheEvilAmerican 2 years ago
so basically a copy was a further and better development of the original? maybe it's not that bad? =\
VivisectiveCarrot 2 years ago
nice vid!!! Good job...
andsien 2 years ago
are you kidding? YAK 141 Flew in 1987. When F35 first flew?? YAK configuration was copied by F22 and F35. for more info see OVT on youtube.
bobrevich 2 years ago 2
thats exactly what im saying F35 copied YAK . . see the vid closely
srsairbags 2 years ago
@srsairbags Of course YAK141 is a copy of F35, and MIG25 is a copy of F15, MIG105 is copy of a Shattle, TU144 is copy of a CONCORDE, but Russians must be using a TIME MASHIN to copyed. BUT TIME MASHIN IT'SELF IN NOT A COPY, IT'S RUSSIAN INOVATION.
mikeplay007 1 year ago
@srsairbags no it says YAK copped F35 which is wrong.
akavishwadeep 1 year ago
@akavishwadeep no it doesnt, it plainly says that the YAK was copied by.... LOL the F-35. Rewatch the video and read. He plainly says the YAK 41M flew in 1981 and the F-35 flew in 2006, how the hell is he saying the F-35 copied the YAK when its first flight was 25 years after the YAK?
BBEEAANN1 1 year ago
@srsairbags actually F-35 program started in 1985 under the ATF program which would design a VSTOL aircraft similar to the F-22 project. So infact its another copy by the russians. they can't build anything. Look up the Tu-2 It's a B-29.
chillaxer1993 1 year ago
@srsairbags lol america payed for the secrets behind the yak 38 (hovering system) and much more..
SMJeOma 1 year ago
hey b4 you post a coment please watch the video closely!
andsien 2 years ago
you right, i did not watch this video closely, i just watched it again and taking my comments back. Thanks andsien.
bobrevich 2 years ago
@bobrevich
How was F-22 copied from Yak?
MokomaSusi 1 year ago
vertical thrust technology was copied, because of which the F22 project was stuck for years until the input of Russians who worked on Yak 141. You can find the documentary on youtube as well
bobrevich 1 year ago
@bobrevich you mean F35 right
srsairbags 1 year ago
@srsairbags F22 (vertical aircraft takeoff and landing version for NAVY) and F35 uses the same technology. Not sure if F22 of that modification was ever placed in production, so, yes,, F35.
bobrevich 1 year ago
@bobrevich It's not piracy. Lockheed Martin bought the design rights from Yakovlev and they did mentioned the Yak-141 influence in F-35 design. i know, i've read the presentation paper.
phadil 1 year ago
good video like the commnets at the end.
we copy the russians and the russians copy us thats the way it is
lasersailor587 2 years ago 2
Ту-160 It is sensitive more than b-1 in 2 times)))) (on weight)
And in general a bit similar aerodynamic schemes what don`t speak about some what
Valerk34 2 years ago
TU-160 my be a copy of B-1, but B-1 itself was a copy of TU-22.
12345678962746 2 years ago 9
i agree . . i also consider the Tu to be more superior than the B1 . . .
srsairbags 2 years ago
Oh, sorry... I've realized you actually said the same as me... Yeah...
But usually it's Americans claiming Soviets copied things...
Sorry, my bad...
And the fact is everybody will copy what's better...
Orthodoxcrusader 1 year ago
@srsairbags Tu =/= B1, simply because they don't share the same role. B1 is a supersonic bomber and the Tu is a standoff missile platform--also much, much larger. Also the Tu is a copy of the planned US B1 proj