i am a massive ford supporter bbut i now belive that ford has given up. what i am saying is that the typhoon ute is nothing compared to the 2010 maloo nor is the falcon to the GTS. im sad to say this but ford has lost the battle really. unless the go crazy after seeing my comment and decide to put the Ford GT's V8 in one of there typhoon's or falcons otherwise they just aint as good as they used to be which saddens me
seriously a fail, I love holden I own a VX but not when they do this shit, seriously go buy a VE Clubby and pay 6k for a supercharger kit and get 50 more hp for 60 grand less. This engine belongs in a Z06 that is where it shines and performs just look at it's Leman's track record, not to mention being almost 400 kilos lighter , you can tune it to 650rwhp with room to spare and spank anything on the road, btw halo sucks balls
ford are so fucking hopeless with their v8's they build turbo 6's to keep up with the holdens LOOOL ahahahha at all the ford loosers checking out this video becuase they are scared and know this car eatsall thier shitty bogan falcons
you are all a bunch of fucken bogans. your like little girls "fords better", "holden rules" etc. how childish. fucken skirt behaviour. mark skaife is a wanker, should put his nose on the roof to cut through the wind. all you holden and ford bogans are just ignorant fucking tossers. YOBOS go back to bathurst "mate"
waste of money. THe e2 gts is just as good as this car as HSV did the same modifications to it such as the stiffenening of the springs and the lower ride height and the more responsive steering. What they dont do is stiffen the sway bars and if you look at this car on the track, it twists and the body lifts itself. Not enough stiffness!! Look at a BMW m5 and that hardly moves at all....
They would probably have to double it and make it 14Litres!!!
How much faster do u want? That is a more than respectable time for a heavy sedan like that. An engine that size makes a great platform for running radical power and performance on the street, whilst still maintaining good durability! With some tweaking you'll easily get that monster running 3s to 100.
Just because the guy doesn't like Holden's doesn't mean he shouldn't watch videos on them. I watch some videos that are disgusting, eg pimple busting, people breaking bones. I find it disgusting yet i watch it and comment on it just like GervaisRicky has.
BTW Holden's rule, check out the red wagon under "1badv8"
GervaisRicky, if you dont like holdens then why the fuck are u watchin a video about a holden????? do the world a favour, tie sumthin heavy round your neck and jump off a bridge !!!!!!!!!
This GervaisRicky bloke does nothing but flame Holden videos and compliment Ford videos. It takes some sort of dickhead mentality to purposely abuse people who genuinely love these cars.
Who cares if you have the right to an opinion? There's such a thing as allowing these people to admire these cars, so fuck off you cocky pig.
Having read some of the posts on here it looks like there must be two people using he one account! GR given the handle both of you use on here your idea of debate is very amusing - me and my mate down the pub both think Holden's are rubbish therefore...! To andcom05 there are a lot of tw*ts in the UK that think a 2 litre diesel Audi is some sort of performance car, I think it's time we ignored this idiot. I've driven some great Holden's that have put a big smile on my face.
Yes Doug, you've hit the nail on the head when you mention the word TWAT!
As you said, if people don't like this car then don't make any dickhead postings. It's only the Paranoid and Confused Yuppies out there who have to crap on Youtube like they do because they're very bored with themselves!
I say i drive one car but i actually drive another, but then i might drive another one instead. For all we know it probably drives a Hyundai. And yes, me and Doug were joined at birth. GR- Paranoid Twat!
To the adults on here that know what they are talking about & are not into personnel slagging matches. If your looking for bang for your buck the W427 is not going to be your best option. Your obviously much better off adding your own spec to a stock GTS or similar. If you don't like Holden's then fine drive whatever takes your fancy. But please don't insult me or anyone else just because they don't have the same taste or opinion as you. GR I think your the sensitive one.
This is the last time I can be bothered to reply. You don't back your comments up with facts, I strongly doubt that you have driven anything like the cars you mention. And I do not have two accounts. Like is too bloody short. I live in Devon, UK. I have driven, raced and built all sorts of cars. And have respect for any make/workshop that puts together something worth driving. What I don't like is ignorant tw*ts spouting off. If you only like Fords then why bother looking at Holden vids?
Buddy if you can't handle opinions other than your own I strongly suggest you stay away from the internet, because you're going to be confronted with a LOT of people who agree with me that Holden's are rubbish.
This is not an Australian Car Atall. American Motor. American Brakes . American Springs American ESC ....American car. Holden never even developed there own motor unitl the VK. at-least ford develop there own boosted engines . Wake Up
@bf6379 They dont need and engine that large to make 290ish rwkws. The 5.0 engine next year will make that standard, so the blown version is around 400rwkws. all for under 100k. So yes the W427 is not worth 150k, so yes you could call it an over priced shitbox lol
@79HZGTS your an idiot, what about chev building an LS9 with a supercharger? Walkinshaws supercharger pack for the ls3? fords factory built 5.0L supercharged v8's? people who say forced induction is cheating just cant accept that in 1992 nissan built a better 6 cylinder than holden at bathurst
@79HZGTS who cares who built it, dont try to change the topic. forced induction is not cheating at all, if increasing compression in a stroke is cheating then making the bore is also cheating....
@79HZGTS it doesnt matter who built them, it wasnt the point of my post. forced induction is not cheating. if increasing the compression in a stroke by a certain per cent is cheating then making the cylinder bore larger is also cheating...
I do welcome forced induction, on diesel engines. Even the biggest diesel engines need forced induction to make them drivable.
Put a turbo or a supercharger on a petrol engine, and drive it every day, you are asking for trouble. Cubic capacity is the only reliable way to get big horsepower out of a petrol engine.
Don't know if it's supposed to be me or andcom05 that works for Holden but GR your only real gripe is that it's that it's a Holden and your a Ford man. Your arguments don't stack up and are the sort of crap we have to put up with down at the pub in blighty. Shame I couldn't meet up with you on a race or kart track then the bullshit would stop. Oh and production vehicle is a vehicle made & sold in numbers to the general public. ie more than a prototype. But exclusive because they sold 200.
Get a REAL car. A car that is actually a proper PRODUCTION VEHICLE... The GTR R35. It cost LESS money than this POS, will thrash it off the line, run circles around it in cornering and looks SEXY!!
This car was made for pure marketing reasons and nothing else. It was made so ignorant Holden boys can invoke the W427 as the Holy Grail of the HSV range. But if a 0-100 of 4.7 is the best it's go to offer than what exactly are they bragging about?? That is not even close to super-car status. I guess even the Holden fans know this as they couldn't even reach half of their expected sales.
There are some comments on here that come from boys that play top trump cards and don't actually drive any of the cars they talk about. They wouldn't be so dismissive if they did. Agree you can buy a Clubsport and produce your own version for less but isn't that always the case with factory high end models? you could argue the veyron with twin V8's, 4 turbo's only knocking out 1200 brake for £680k is a waste of money but that's not really the point is it?
A production run of 200 is still a limited production run. Check out the production numbers for most high end motors. The 0-100 is a little disappointing but still bloody quick and is only a part of the overall performance and not the most important indicator. I'll happily drive this marketing stunt as you like to call it
This is NOT a production car lol.. Go look up "production vehicle" online and come back to me when you've figured it out. And the 0-100 on this vehicle are SHOCKING not just "a little disappointing". That's the whole point, what exactly is so exclusive about this car?? If it's not the 0-100 times then wtf does it have going for it???
That's even slower than I previously thought lol. A completely stock xr6t is slower by less than a half a second and its one third the price. This w427 ISN'T a production vehicle. For something to be this "exclusive" and expensive it's got to a LOT more, which it obviously hasn't, as they couldn't even reach half their expected sales.
A stock XR6T is more than a sec slower to a hundred, when the F6 is 5.1 sec's. You obviously like your turbo 6s and good onya. But we're men down here in Australia, and we love our big thumpin motors! With a big engine like that IT IS EXCLUSIVE, by being able to turn those numbers all day. Whereas a highly strung turbo engine eventually melts and explodes, something the T6 Falcon's are very good at, they still spit clutches and head gaskets and don't go past 20,000kms without needing repairs.
"We're men down here in Australia.." lol I live in Sydney buddy... And I LOVE smashing hsv's at the lights. I drive my xr6t like its stolen and don't the holden boys hate it. By the way genius, no clutch/head gasket issues.
Oh and the fg xr6 turbo consistently gets 5.1 sec in 0-100 times, so yes this hunk of crap, with its extra 105kw can only pull .04 seconds better??? That's shit!!
Oh Shit, i've hit another raw nerve on Youtube again. But like what me and Dougowt have said, u like your Ford's and turbo sixes and we like our v8's.
0-100 and quarter mile times don't mean allot, it's all about staying power. and as i've mentioned before with a big engine u get the best of both worlds, massive power and torque without any lag with durability and much lower maintenance costs than a turbo car!
Those 427's are quicker than advertised and HSV has a history of understating cars.
Once the the quarter mile is done this fella will keep on pulling to a radical top speed. The power it's got and a disconnected rev limiter you'll see over 300km/h all day.
Holden is doing well for a pathetic company. Despite high fuel prices and the recession this year, the Commodore remains the top selling car in Australia as it has consistently since 89!
And it still maintains a healthy export market along with that great new deal to supply the US police forces with the statesman.
Where do they export that thing that Ford Australia used to call a Falcon to?......Tasmania?
With slumping sales and model cancellations the clock is ticking on Ford's local production. I didn't know u live in Sydney because your Youtube page says the UK, sorry about that.
Hold your horses Ricky Ricardo, we're just people expressing our opinions here.
I don't mean to scare or intimidate anyone on the net, to reassure u, me and Mr Dougowt are two different people, nobody is stalking u here.
But u really do sound confused, your Youtube site says you're based in the uk, but u live in Sydney, first u said u drive an Xr6 turbo, but now u drive an Audi!
But how can u shitbag HSV so much, they've always been top level cars! They're the top selling high performance car of the country(as they always have been), always do excellent in the road tests, and always cop a good rap from the motoring journos! And for value for money they're the best sports sedans on the planet, even the pricing of the 427 is still allot cheaper than a top level Merc or Bmw. Chill out Ricky, it's alright buddy!
But Ford don't sell a car with a 7.0 litre engine in Australia. HSV can sell this car for $150,000 because some Holden fans will pay that much for a HSV with an LS7 engine.
Serious FPV fans would pay the same sort of money for a limited edition blue oval badge car.
Ford or Holden, it doesn't matter how fast it is. It is the big engine that counts.
what a fucking waste seriously, I'm a holden man , but seriously what the fuck is holden thinking. 150 grand, fuck me, buy a GTS and spend 10 grand on it and you'll get the same power or more
Where as a turbo comes in at a certain rev range which dosen't make the power delivery as smooth, and that's not as ideal for all driving conditions( especially in peak hour traffic). And thanks for pointing out what JMHO means, i have trouble with this computer talk sometimes!
Yes they are identical, because its the same block but with bigger crank journals to beef up the stroke. The technical difference of a SB and BB, is based on the bore spacing of the block.
Or the distance from the centre of each cylinder, up to 4.4ins is a SB, 4.5 and over is a BB. I refer to blower as regarding turbo or superchargers, because they're still both air pumps. A supercharger is more streetable because it runs off the crank, so u can control the power with your foot.
Ok, so even with forced induction it still isn't any good for big power on the street, well what engine setup would be better then? Despite the cubic inches it's not that big, where did u get that one from?
Is it 427cid only in a spiritual sense?
Do u know the technical difference between a small and big block(i don't think u do)? And last but not least, who is JMHO Holden? Was he a famous actor?
I'm referring to the fact that u don't need a Blower of any kind to get mass power out of the LS7. That power is achievable due to it's huge capacity and by opening the heads right out, with a monster cam and high octane fuel.
Just take a look at the Australian Pro Stocker's. They're pumping out around 1200plus hp, and that's from an engine restricted to 400ci, carburettors and high octane pump fuel.
This engine needs some serious re tuning. only 505hp from 7 liters. I know I sound like a ricer for that but come on. The Brabham Pontiac SOHC 5.0 made >475 SAE NET HP in 1969! But this is an LS engine, I can't expect Pontiac numbers from a chevy descendent.
How much power should it have? That is more than adequate power for most people on the street. That power figure is a very good number for a big engine like this, because your still maintaining the smoothness and durability u don't get from a small turbo engine.
Open this sucker right out and it has the potential of 1000plus hp without radical modification.
what an absolute bunch of space cadets...y the fuk come on u tube to argue with sum other fukwit....at the end of the day....this car is awesome....BUT...$150,000 is a shitload of money for a special car that has no special build number.
this is only a small amount of power? NO SHIT. It's a 7LITRE ENGINE! if it couldnt make much more than that, id cry. hahahahha ..
As I said .. money vs. performance .. this car is a piece of shit.
If you don't get that.. look at the figures yourself.
And yeh .. Im sure even YOU know for a fact PLENTY of cars could make 500+rwkw with 'bolt on' mods .. like 'bolting on' a Borg Warner S595 turbo. But that's not the argument I'm making here. It's cost vs. performance
dude wtf are you on about bolt on mods means headers cats exhaust otrcai etc no turbo involved with a turbo this car would be insane and why hate on something if you cant even afford it id understand if you can afford one and then say nah no point buying it i dont like it cost too much for too little or sumthing but u cant even afford it and ur talkin shit lol
a turbo is a bolt on modification. as is a supercharger.
Wait .. who are you to say I can't afford it? Do you know how much my anual income is? Do you know what current car I drive? Have you any idea how much I know about cars?
Clearly the answer to all that is no.
I'm not 'hating' on anything.
You still cannot see my point about cost vs. performance.
You are an idiot.
I believe you were talking about bolt on mods for the engine yes? NOT the exhaust system ..
rofl an exhaust system is a bolt on mod for the engine (maybe you should talk to a mechanic) and i was agreeing with you that it is overpriced if you read my first post properly i said this car is a bit overpriced but the engine in it is an absolute beast and you cant say its shit when its not
and you're obviously the idiot if you wanna talk cost vs performance then why get a r34 gtr for 50 grand when u can get a vt/vx ls1 for 10grand and spend the 140 grand you've saved on it and you will see what real performance is then :) (if you really wanna get into the cost vs performance debate this is a better option then a 50grand r34 gtr :D)
just so u know this is just a small amount of power this engine provides it has soo much potential its not funny with bolt ons alone this can make around 500 kw+ easy this car is a bit overpriced but the engine it has is insane :D
thanks hehe to be honest id rather buy a 2008-09 Z06 cuz its cheaper same engine lighter and all that money u save put into the motor :D. The Z06 standard can pull 11.3 down the strip :D but this care is still pretty awesome hehe
Just wish HSV had give alittle more thought into the interior design, I'm a huge Holden fan and it's a shame to see this car being critisized about the interior time and time again in nearly all car magazines. HSV should have only built 100. screw the 427 theme. and yeah the car might cost more but at least it's worth it. For $150k I'd rather have that silver Coupe 60, too bad they don't have it.
Hey Aussies, next time GM sends a batch of these 7.0 motors over will send some shovels. That way you can get these japcrap lovers heads out of their asses!
@bf6379 because the vauxhall monaro (as it is sold in england) is half the price and comes with 600hp of supercharged power.
you are merely paying for the walkinshaw(badge)name.
bmw and audi (especially) have le mans pedigrees. holden have NEVER even been there. i personally, dont like the dynamics or look of the 911, however, id choose one over a holden anyday, merely becuase they have four decades of class wins in france.
@deadjailorrocknroll It is not a walkinshaw.. it's a HSV. You pay for exceptional handling and comfort in one package. You need to be a true HSV enthusiast to understand what a truly magnificent car this is!
@danoconnellhsv erm, why do you think there is a "w" in the name ? walkinshaw had a big input to this car. it is FAR removed from the monaro that won at bathurst. i dont need to be anything to appreciate any car, just someone who KNOWS about engineering.
fuck me... the muira had an on the axle mount "east-west" all alloy, one cast engine and gearbox back in `67. this is the same as a taxi. i bet all the clothing you wear comes form china, right ?
What spastic compare`s a v8 to a jap piece of shit that needs a turbo to get it to go,As the hsv w 427 has no turbo,no super charger,Take the turbo`s off of the jap shit all they are good for are wasting fuel.
Australian production cars are slow then arnt they, that motor is capable of so much more, as for the cars set up, no where near the driving pleasure of a off tap gtr or even a nice bulit silvia with decent power and that jus a couple of car that would smoke it, i think the W427 should have the same set up as the zr1.
Oh yeah, real slow. that's why it's the fastest Australian production car to date.
The great thing about having a big engine like this is because you get the best of both worlds. You get the decent power and speed, while still maintaining the decent durability and driveability that you don't get from allot of small capacity turbo cars!
As a HSV owner myself i wouldnt waste my time on the new W427 it represents nothing of the old walky to be honest it looks nothing more like a gto wth a bonnet scoop and a differant motor..lol now i know why skaif is broke dumb ass
I agree. If they are going to charge over 100K for the car then we should expect more upgrades, ie putting more carbon fibre to save weight and boost speed.
thats not the point. they are easy to drive stop like a king and are master of power slide. its a dumb brute. not a super fast carbon fiber thing from europe
yeh 36 yrssss ago mate an australian ford what has holden done since getting there 8s from the states 7.0 and 7.1 lit v8s and what nothing get a inline six ford with the same technolagy from 1988 ea engine with a turbo and will still blow ur doors off thats wat the ba/bf and now fg phoons are BUT im not a cock head i dont minde some holdens like the ve calais and the senotor would have been a bit better the w427 if thay changed more cosmetics so it stood out
W427, 150,000 Dollars. Its not like everyone has a spare 150,000.
Xr6 turbo, 30,000 - 40,000 Dollars. More of and advantage in price. And what type of car would that be if you invested 90k into, It would be pretty awesome.
The ford Xr6 to F6 still has enough power to eat up a Chev/ Holden v8 and its more fuel efficient. I know what i would get.
yeah but the W427 is a collectors item. its only limited to 200. it makes a good investment but true ! lol
and no. technically it doesnt. the xr6 is now 270KW with the turbo. the VZ clubby 6.0lt would eat that easy. and i know i used to own a VZ clubby. its not how fast your car is. its how u drive it aswell.
BUT i can agree with u on the F6. G series that is. with 310 + a turbo giving it what 325KWs all up ?
but then again. i have seen both wins and losses from both sides
Yeah im with you there, but i still wouldnt buy one. I to have seen both sides win.
lol who am i to argue about it though. Most of my family drive, jaguars, Bmw's and Mercs. but im still one for aussie muscle, and i hope one day holden will release a holden motor (Even though its all GM) Just for the fact of saying its all australian built.
The only reason wins go both ways is because the drivers are hideous. If they made two goodd professional drivers drive each an F6 or XR6T will beat any Holden. The XR6T will possibly need to be flash tuned to beat some of the HSV's though.
whats the fukin point of making there own v8 when they have access to already good engines. the 308 barely held up against a v6 vs in a drag. it sounded good but just like any other v8.
Because it would be an achievement to put an Australian engine into an Australian car. I was never talking about a 308. They could make a 427ci EFI engine if they wanted. Gm Australia could make a good engine.
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madassdog1010 Holden australia could make a better engine. A stock F6 can run faster times than a stock w427 and the engine capactiy and torque is much higher. Very dissapointing even for me and i am a Ford man all the way though i love HSV's and the new VE Body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, your a Ford man and yet u love HSV'S??? The W427 is the fastest Australian production car to date, 0-100 in the mid 4s and with the speed limiter removed would easily see over 300kmh. And who said the F6 is faster? Was it Joe Fordwright from Australian musclecar magazine!
ford fans make just make up times i wanna see what a stock f6 would do i dont hate fords or holdens i love all cars with potential (meaning turbo or v8) but facts are facts this is one of the best engines out there with soo much potential
its not mid 4 second range from 0 to 100 km/h. its in the high 4's.... you can get a Chrysler 300c SRT8 for half the price, and it has the exact same performance
(0-100 km/h in 4.9 seconds), and less power....Its not all about a big engine with a lot of power...the gearbox, wheels and tired are important in getting good numbers....from what i've heard the W427 is lanky around corners. That's why they got Mark Skaife to advertise it.
Hi ya, well the 427 is in that performance range! Both Motor and even Wheels magazine have recorded 0-100 in 4.7 not 4.9 secs, and remember those test's are done with all that recording equipment strapped on and a full tank of fuel!
HSV's private testing at Calder with it's grippy surface and a light fuel load has seen a best of 4.4 secs.
Holden got Skaife to show it off because he is the new salesman for them, having picked up the baton after Peter left the building.
HSV's have always had sharp dynamics, and this monster is no exception. With the Harrop full caliper racing brakes and magnetic ride suspension, it's one of the best steerer's out there! Motor ran it in there latest comparison lap test and it came in a very close third, just one tenth of a sec off the second placed car.
i am a massive ford supporter bbut i now belive that ford has given up. what i am saying is that the typhoon ute is nothing compared to the 2010 maloo nor is the falcon to the GTS. im sad to say this but ford has lost the battle really. unless the go crazy after seeing my comment and decide to put the Ford GT's V8 in one of there typhoon's or falcons otherwise they just aint as good as they used to be which saddens me
Suprastar77 6 months ago
halo theme ?
sikcunthellas 8 months ago
seriously a fail, I love holden I own a VX but not when they do this shit, seriously go buy a VE Clubby and pay 6k for a supercharger kit and get 50 more hp for 60 grand less. This engine belongs in a Z06 that is where it shines and performs just look at it's Leman's track record, not to mention being almost 400 kilos lighter , you can tune it to 650rwhp with room to spare and spank anything on the road, btw halo sucks balls
freedomsoldier187 8 months ago
ford are so fucking hopeless with their v8's they build turbo 6's to keep up with the holdens LOOOL ahahahha at all the ford loosers checking out this video becuase they are scared and know this car eatsall thier shitty bogan falcons
SuperTamponBandit 1 year ago
@SuperTamponBandit Amen brother!!!!!
andcom05 1 year ago
you are all a bunch of fucken bogans. your like little girls "fords better", "holden rules" etc. how childish. fucken skirt behaviour. mark skaife is a wanker, should put his nose on the roof to cut through the wind. all you holden and ford bogans are just ignorant fucking tossers. YOBOS go back to bathurst "mate"
yuhboyify 1 year ago
lol hsv is dreaming! who the fuck is stupid enough 2 pay $150,000 + for a 4 door kingswood? well some stupid cunt with more money than brains
the124Lscania 1 year ago
i do love the halo soundtrack from 1:30
mbromers 1 year ago
Its a BIG, HEAVY family car!!!
Only total tools buy these cars!
The whole concept of having a "performance" family sedan is red-neck to the core!
marek0086 1 year ago
@marek0086 What if your kids are also car lovers hay?? It's better than some 2 door Porsche!
danoconnellhsv 1 year ago
@danoconnellhsv~what the heck are u talking about?!
marek0086 1 year ago
waste of money. THe e2 gts is just as good as this car as HSV did the same modifications to it such as the stiffenening of the springs and the lower ride height and the more responsive steering. What they dont do is stiffen the sway bars and if you look at this car on the track, it twists and the body lifts itself. Not enough stiffness!! Look at a BMW m5 and that hardly moves at all....
bortous 2 years ago
its not really a waste of money... only 427 of these cars are made so rare..
Drew37831 2 years ago
@Drew37831,
There were 138 built.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
@79HZGTS~ dumb cunts dont understand that "427" refers to the engine size!
marek0086 1 year ago
@Drew37831 bwhaha. is that's why its called the W427?. Insider Knowledge right here
i lol'd
Flappyization 1 year ago
Kickass!
dscomp 2 years ago
0-100km 4,7 seconds?? that is a joke!! Goodness, imagine the size of the motor they would need to get it sub 4 seconds! LOL.
walter6435 2 years ago
They would probably have to double it and make it 14Litres!!!
How much faster do u want? That is a more than respectable time for a heavy sedan like that. An engine that size makes a great platform for running radical power and performance on the street, whilst still maintaining good durability! With some tweaking you'll easily get that monster running 3s to 100.
andcom05 2 years ago
Oh Ricky Ricardo where are u? Us Holden people didn't scare u off did we? I hope your still driving your XR6 AUDI!
andcom05 2 years ago
OHH YA !! @ Gervais LOTUS IS PATHETIC
123dodgecharger 2 years ago
fucking sick
Chaosmongers666 2 years ago
Why does the title say "ZO6 Powered"?
The ZO6 is a Chevrolet Corvette. The LS7 engine is not made by Chevrolet, it is a GM engine.
If I look up a Corvette Z06 video, will it say "W427 Powered"?
79HZGTS 2 years ago
LOL
bruzacruza 2 years ago
Just because the guy doesn't like Holden's doesn't mean he shouldn't watch videos on them. I watch some videos that are disgusting, eg pimple busting, people breaking bones. I find it disgusting yet i watch it and comment on it just like GervaisRicky has.
BTW Holden's rule, check out the red wagon under "1badv8"
mev1BADV8 2 years ago
GervaisRicky, if you dont like holdens then why the fuck are u watchin a video about a holden????? do the world a favour, tie sumthin heavy round your neck and jump off a bridge !!!!!!!!!
gracebinda93 2 years ago
This GervaisRicky bloke does nothing but flame Holden videos and compliment Ford videos. It takes some sort of dickhead mentality to purposely abuse people who genuinely love these cars.
Who cares if you have the right to an opinion? There's such a thing as allowing these people to admire these cars, so fuck off you cocky pig.
Yetagainmonkeyman 2 years ago 3
Having read some of the posts on here it looks like there must be two people using he one account! GR given the handle both of you use on here your idea of debate is very amusing - me and my mate down the pub both think Holden's are rubbish therefore...! To andcom05 there are a lot of tw*ts in the UK that think a 2 litre diesel Audi is some sort of performance car, I think it's time we ignored this idiot. I've driven some great Holden's that have put a big smile on my face.
dougowt 2 years ago 2
Yes Doug, you've hit the nail on the head when you mention the word TWAT!
As you said, if people don't like this car then don't make any dickhead postings. It's only the Paranoid and Confused Yuppies out there who have to crap on Youtube like they do because they're very bored with themselves!
I say i drive one car but i actually drive another, but then i might drive another one instead. For all we know it probably drives a Hyundai. And yes, me and Doug were joined at birth. GR- Paranoid Twat!
andcom05 2 years ago
To the adults on here that know what they are talking about & are not into personnel slagging matches. If your looking for bang for your buck the W427 is not going to be your best option. Your obviously much better off adding your own spec to a stock GTS or similar. If you don't like Holden's then fine drive whatever takes your fancy. But please don't insult me or anyone else just because they don't have the same taste or opinion as you. GR I think your the sensitive one.
dougowt 2 years ago 2
Even the Holden boys admit this car is a piece of shit...
Go onto any one-eyed Holden site right now type "w427" into their search function and read the countless NEGATIVE comments about this hunk of junk.
Oh but let's see how long my comments last this time before andcom05/dougowt = same person trying to scroll them away... lol
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
This is the last time I can be bothered to reply. You don't back your comments up with facts, I strongly doubt that you have driven anything like the cars you mention. And I do not have two accounts. Like is too bloody short. I live in Devon, UK. I have driven, raced and built all sorts of cars. And have respect for any make/workshop that puts together something worth driving. What I don't like is ignorant tw*ts spouting off. If you only like Fords then why bother looking at Holden vids?
dougowt 2 years ago
Good grief...
Are you seriously THIS sensitive??
Please tell me your kidding.
Buddy if you can't handle opinions other than your own I strongly suggest you stay away from the internet, because you're going to be confronted with a LOT of people who agree with me that Holden's are rubbish.
Like I said to your boyfriend...
DEAL WITH IT!
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
When Ford Australia or FPV build a car with a 7.0 litre engine then you can call the W427 an overpriced shitbox. Until then, shut the fuck up.
bf6379 2 years ago 22
This is not an Australian Car Atall. American Motor. American Brakes . American Springs American ESC ....American car. Holden never even developed there own motor unitl the VK. at-least ford develop there own boosted engines . Wake Up
Flappyization 1 year ago
@Flappyization,
Every six Cylinder up to and including the VK was an Australian Holden engine. Every V8 from HQ to VT was an Australian Holden V8.
Ford? Everyone knows where the Cleveland and Windsor engines came from. Don't you?
bf6379 1 year ago
@bf6379 ford wont build one cause their cocksuckers
dezerteegle 1 year ago
@bf6379 They dont need and engine that large to make 290ish rwkws. The 5.0 engine next year will make that standard, so the blown version is around 400rwkws. all for under 100k. So yes the W427 is not worth 150k, so yes you could call it an over priced shitbox lol
dreadly101 1 year ago
@dreadly101,
The 5.0 litre supercharged Coyote engine makes 335 kW. I cant figure out how you can claim the car will have 400 kW at the wheels?
79HZGTS 1 year ago
@79HZGTS a simple flash tune lol. now put a bigger intercooler an extra 6psi and whooo hoooo 500rwkws ;)
dreadly101 1 year ago
@dreadly101,
Oh, I thought you were comparing the 5.0 litre supercharged FPV with the W427 in this video, both being unmodified cars from the factory.
Seems you were talking about something else.
Anyway, forced induction is cheating. Not a real engine.
79HZGTS 1 year ago
@79HZGTS It's not cheating beast engines in the world have boost. either turbo or blower. Think top door slammers lol
dreadly101 1 year ago
@79HZGTS your an idiot, what about chev building an LS9 with a supercharger? Walkinshaws supercharger pack for the ls3? fords factory built 5.0L supercharged v8's? people who say forced induction is cheating just cant accept that in 1992 nissan built a better 6 cylinder than holden at bathurst
ducatiracing 10 months ago
@ducatiracing,
"Chev" don't build any LS series engines. The LS engines are manufactured by GM corporation, not Chevrolet.
79HZGTS 10 months ago
@79HZGTS who cares who built it, dont try to change the topic. forced induction is not cheating at all, if increasing compression in a stroke is cheating then making the bore is also cheating....
ducatiracing 10 months ago
@79HZGTS it doesnt matter who built them, it wasnt the point of my post. forced induction is not cheating. if increasing the compression in a stroke by a certain per cent is cheating then making the cylinder bore larger is also cheating...
ducatiracing 10 months ago
@ducatiracing,
No, increasing the bore diameter does not increase the compression if the combustion chamber capacity is also increased.
Forced induction is just a cheap, nasty and unsustainable substitute for cubic capacity.
79HZGTS 10 months ago
@79HZGTS I never said increasing bore increases compression. You should welcome forced induction, not hate on it.
ducatiracing 10 months ago
@ducatiracing,
I do welcome forced induction, on diesel engines. Even the biggest diesel engines need forced induction to make them drivable.
Put a turbo or a supercharger on a petrol engine, and drive it every day, you are asking for trouble. Cubic capacity is the only reliable way to get big horsepower out of a petrol engine.
79HZGTS 10 months ago
@bf6379 wont have to, they can achieve that with half the litres
danieljb89 7 months ago
hey STFU Bloke
123dodgecharger 2 years ago
Don't know if it's supposed to be me or andcom05 that works for Holden but GR your only real gripe is that it's that it's a Holden and your a Ford man. Your arguments don't stack up and are the sort of crap we have to put up with down at the pub in blighty. Shame I couldn't meet up with you on a race or kart track then the bullshit would stop. Oh and production vehicle is a vehicle made & sold in numbers to the general public. ie more than a prototype. But exclusive because they sold 200.
dougowt 2 years ago 5
LOL...
It's the same person using 2 different accounts...
What a dead-set DICKHEAD you are!!
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
fk up u dipshit go drive ya ford
angrynoor 2 years ago 2
Where do you live hero?
PM me.
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
Get a REAL car. A car that is actually a proper PRODUCTION VEHICLE... The GTR R35. It cost LESS money than this POS, will thrash it off the line, run circles around it in cornering and looks SEXY!!
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
This car was made for pure marketing reasons and nothing else. It was made so ignorant Holden boys can invoke the W427 as the Holy Grail of the HSV range. But if a 0-100 of 4.7 is the best it's go to offer than what exactly are they bragging about?? That is not even close to super-car status. I guess even the Holden fans know this as they couldn't even reach half of their expected sales.
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
There are some comments on here that come from boys that play top trump cards and don't actually drive any of the cars they talk about. They wouldn't be so dismissive if they did. Agree you can buy a Clubsport and produce your own version for less but isn't that always the case with factory high end models? you could argue the veyron with twin V8's, 4 turbo's only knocking out 1200 brake for £680k is a waste of money but that's not really the point is it?
dougowt 2 years ago
A production run of 200 is still a limited production run. Check out the production numbers for most high end motors. The 0-100 is a little disappointing but still bloody quick and is only a part of the overall performance and not the most important indicator. I'll happily drive this marketing stunt as you like to call it
dougowt 2 years ago
This is NOT a production car lol.. Go look up "production vehicle" online and come back to me when you've figured it out. And the 0-100 on this vehicle are SHOCKING not just "a little disappointing". That's the whole point, what exactly is so exclusive about this car?? If it's not the 0-100 times then wtf does it have going for it???
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
ur better off with a Walkinshaw Clubsport. quicker and a bit cheaper.
sixspeed2 2 years ago
its a marketing stunt and nothing more. They only sold 200, doesnt even make it a production vehicle. Slow as shit too.
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
Slow as shit? It does 0-100km/h in 4.7 seconds.
andcom05 2 years ago
That's even slower than I previously thought lol. A completely stock xr6t is slower by less than a half a second and its one third the price. This w427 ISN'T a production vehicle. For something to be this "exclusive" and expensive it's got to a LOT more, which it obviously hasn't, as they couldn't even reach half their expected sales.
Pure marketing and nothing more.
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
A stock XR6T is more than a sec slower to a hundred, when the F6 is 5.1 sec's. You obviously like your turbo 6s and good onya. But we're men down here in Australia, and we love our big thumpin motors! With a big engine like that IT IS EXCLUSIVE, by being able to turn those numbers all day. Whereas a highly strung turbo engine eventually melts and explodes, something the T6 Falcon's are very good at, they still spit clutches and head gaskets and don't go past 20,000kms without needing repairs.
andcom05 2 years ago
"We're men down here in Australia.." lol I live in Sydney buddy... And I LOVE smashing hsv's at the lights. I drive my xr6t like its stolen and don't the holden boys hate it. By the way genius, no clutch/head gasket issues.
Oh and the fg xr6 turbo consistently gets 5.1 sec in 0-100 times, so yes this hunk of crap, with its extra 105kw can only pull .04 seconds better??? That's shit!!
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
Oh Shit, i've hit another raw nerve on Youtube again. But like what me and Dougowt have said, u like your Ford's and turbo sixes and we like our v8's.
0-100 and quarter mile times don't mean allot, it's all about staying power. and as i've mentioned before with a big engine u get the best of both worlds, massive power and torque without any lag with durability and much lower maintenance costs than a turbo car!
Those 427's are quicker than advertised and HSV has a history of understating cars.
andcom05 2 years ago
Once the the quarter mile is done this fella will keep on pulling to a radical top speed. The power it's got and a disconnected rev limiter you'll see over 300km/h all day.
Holden is doing well for a pathetic company. Despite high fuel prices and the recession this year, the Commodore remains the top selling car in Australia as it has consistently since 89!
And it still maintains a healthy export market along with that great new deal to supply the US police forces with the statesman.
andcom05 2 years ago
By the way you sound suspiciously like someone who works for Holden, pretending to be a "youtube" viewer.
Yes people, Holden IS that pathetic.
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
Where do they export that thing that Ford Australia used to call a Falcon to?......Tasmania?
With slumping sales and model cancellations the clock is ticking on Ford's local production. I didn't know u live in Sydney because your Youtube page says the UK, sorry about that.
andcom05 2 years ago
Yes you (andcom05 & dougowt = SAME PERSON) sound suspiciously like you work for Holden's marketing team posing as a Youtube viewer... PATHETIC!
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
Why the fuck would I care what Ford Australia does..??
I drive an Audi genius.
Obviously HSV will always be compared with whatever FPV have to offer as they both target the same demographic...
You're not seriously this slow are you??
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
Well no i'm not!
Hold your horses Ricky Ricardo, we're just people expressing our opinions here.
I don't mean to scare or intimidate anyone on the net, to reassure u, me and Mr Dougowt are two different people, nobody is stalking u here.
But u really do sound confused, your Youtube site says you're based in the uk, but u live in Sydney, first u said u drive an Xr6 turbo, but now u drive an Audi!
What are u on about? Or, what are u on?
andcom05 2 years ago
But how can u shitbag HSV so much, they've always been top level cars! They're the top selling high performance car of the country(as they always have been), always do excellent in the road tests, and always cop a good rap from the motoring journos! And for value for money they're the best sports sedans on the planet, even the pricing of the 427 is still allot cheaper than a top level Merc or Bmw. Chill out Ricky, it's alright buddy!
andcom05 2 years ago
Quit flooding this page with your 1000 word essays freak.
THERE ARE BETTER THINGS TO DO WITH YOUR TIME!!
This car is a complete JOKE...
DEAL WITH IT!!
GervaisRicky 2 years ago
@GervaisRicky
andcom05 2 years ago
Ok i will, thanks for that!
andcom05 2 years ago
But Ford don't sell a car with a 7.0 litre engine in Australia. HSV can sell this car for $150,000 because some Holden fans will pay that much for a HSV with an LS7 engine.
Serious FPV fans would pay the same sort of money for a limited edition blue oval badge car.
Ford or Holden, it doesn't matter how fast it is. It is the big engine that counts.
79HZGTS 2 years ago
oh and still save 60 grand
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago
what a fucking waste seriously, I'm a holden man , but seriously what the fuck is holden thinking. 150 grand, fuck me, buy a GTS and spend 10 grand on it and you'll get the same power or more
and stiffen it up as much
freedomsoldier187 2 years ago
what a waste of a 160k
that car will be worthless in 10years
yianni3510 2 years ago
what a waste of a 160k.........
yianni3510 2 years ago
Where as a turbo comes in at a certain rev range which dosen't make the power delivery as smooth, and that's not as ideal for all driving conditions( especially in peak hour traffic). And thanks for pointing out what JMHO means, i have trouble with this computer talk sometimes!
andcom05 2 years ago
Yes they are identical, because its the same block but with bigger crank journals to beef up the stroke. The technical difference of a SB and BB, is based on the bore spacing of the block.
Or the distance from the centre of each cylinder, up to 4.4ins is a SB, 4.5 and over is a BB. I refer to blower as regarding turbo or superchargers, because they're still both air pumps. A supercharger is more streetable because it runs off the crank, so u can control the power with your foot.
andcom05 2 years ago
Ok, so even with forced induction it still isn't any good for big power on the street, well what engine setup would be better then? Despite the cubic inches it's not that big, where did u get that one from?
Is it 427cid only in a spiritual sense?
Do u know the technical difference between a small and big block(i don't think u do)? And last but not least, who is JMHO Holden? Was he a famous actor?
andcom05 2 years ago
It's all good here, again i'm referring to radical mods as not using a blower.
My point is, is that u can still get mass power out of a big engine like that and still keep it naturally aspirated!
And sure i can see your point, as a blower would be overall cheaper to install and make the car more streetable.
andcom05 2 years ago
I'm referring to the fact that u don't need a Blower of any kind to get mass power out of the LS7. That power is achievable due to it's huge capacity and by opening the heads right out, with a monster cam and high octane fuel.
Just take a look at the Australian Pro Stocker's. They're pumping out around 1200plus hp, and that's from an engine restricted to 400ci, carburettors and high octane pump fuel.
andcom05 2 years ago
This engine needs some serious re tuning. only 505hp from 7 liters. I know I sound like a ricer for that but come on. The Brabham Pontiac SOHC 5.0 made >475 SAE NET HP in 1969! But this is an LS engine, I can't expect Pontiac numbers from a chevy descendent.
PontiacAlfaHSV 2 years ago
How much power should it have? That is more than adequate power for most people on the street. That power figure is a very good number for a big engine like this, because your still maintaining the smoothness and durability u don't get from a small turbo engine.
Open this sucker right out and it has the potential of 1000plus hp without radical modification.
andcom05 2 years ago
That is a very good point. The Power potential of these cars is phenominal.
PontiacAlfaHSV 2 years ago
what an absolute bunch of space cadets...y the fuk come on u tube to argue with sum other fukwit....at the end of the day....this car is awesome....BUT...$150,000 is a shitload of money for a special car that has no special build number.
mr5000i 2 years ago
this is only a small amount of power? NO SHIT. It's a 7LITRE ENGINE! if it couldnt make much more than that, id cry. hahahahha ..
As I said .. money vs. performance .. this car is a piece of shit.
If you don't get that.. look at the figures yourself.
And yeh .. Im sure even YOU know for a fact PLENTY of cars could make 500+rwkw with 'bolt on' mods .. like 'bolting on' a Borg Warner S595 turbo. But that's not the argument I'm making here. It's cost vs. performance
NeonStreak 2 years ago 2
dude wtf are you on about bolt on mods means headers cats exhaust otrcai etc no turbo involved with a turbo this car would be insane and why hate on something if you cant even afford it id understand if you can afford one and then say nah no point buying it i dont like it cost too much for too little or sumthing but u cant even afford it and ur talkin shit lol
ITGOEZ 2 years ago
a turbo is a bolt on modification. as is a supercharger.
Wait .. who are you to say I can't afford it? Do you know how much my anual income is? Do you know what current car I drive? Have you any idea how much I know about cars?
Clearly the answer to all that is no.
I'm not 'hating' on anything.
You still cannot see my point about cost vs. performance.
You are an idiot.
I believe you were talking about bolt on mods for the engine yes? NOT the exhaust system ..
Go talk to a mechanic
NeonStreak 2 years ago
rofl an exhaust system is a bolt on mod for the engine (maybe you should talk to a mechanic) and i was agreeing with you that it is overpriced if you read my first post properly i said this car is a bit overpriced but the engine in it is an absolute beast and you cant say its shit when its not
ITGOEZ 2 years ago
and you're obviously the idiot if you wanna talk cost vs performance then why get a r34 gtr for 50 grand when u can get a vt/vx ls1 for 10grand and spend the 140 grand you've saved on it and you will see what real performance is then :) (if you really wanna get into the cost vs performance debate this is a better option then a 50grand r34 gtr :D)
ITGOEZ 2 years ago
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Yeah dude, u keep telling that japcar lovin character!
andcom05 2 years ago
lol . 150k. why bother.
you could buy an R34 GTR for half that, spend another 75k on it, and destroy anything on the track/hills, and pull a better 1/4mile.
NeonStreak 2 years ago 2
I think you totally miss the point of this car mate, it's a special version of an aussie muscle car, not a modified jap racer.
specopscommando 2 years ago
absolutely correct.
But in terms of money/performance .. why would you bother buying one?
Unless you only want it for that reason .. because you like Holdens, you like the look of this car, and you have the money.
Performance wise for the money its not that great
NeonStreak 2 years ago
just so u know this is just a small amount of power this engine provides it has soo much potential its not funny with bolt ons alone this can make around 500 kw+ easy this car is a bit overpriced but the engine it has is insane :D
ITGOEZ 2 years ago
Well said man, tell that to neon and the other's, they just don't understand!
andcom05 2 years ago
thanks hehe to be honest id rather buy a 2008-09 Z06 cuz its cheaper same engine lighter and all that money u save put into the motor :D. The Z06 standard can pull 11.3 down the strip :D but this care is still pretty awesome hehe
ITGOEZ 2 years ago
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ITGOEZ 2 years ago
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orgillmathew 2 years ago
u hav 2 pay @ least 2 x the price 4 anythang with similar performance.
as 4 japs, theyr alryt 2 start off with
but if u want sound style performmance speed or a decent car u need a v8!!!!!!!!!!!!
wazawizam 2 years ago
Just wish HSV had give alittle more thought into the interior design, I'm a huge Holden fan and it's a shame to see this car being critisized about the interior time and time again in nearly all car magazines. HSV should have only built 100. screw the 427 theme. and yeah the car might cost more but at least it's worth it. For $150k I'd rather have that silver Coupe 60, too bad they don't have it.
666demonknight666 2 years ago
Hey Aussies, next time GM sends a batch of these 7.0 motors over will send some shovels. That way you can get these japcrap lovers heads out of their asses!
Beeba1 2 years ago 2
150 nicker for a holden ? youve got to be joking...
deadjailorrocknroll 2 years ago 5
@deadjailorrocknroll,
Why do you say that the W427 is not worth $150,000?
The BMW M3 and the Audi A8 are $15,000 more. Are they worth the money?
bf6379 1 year ago
@bf6379 because the vauxhall monaro (as it is sold in england) is half the price and comes with 600hp of supercharged power.
you are merely paying for the walkinshaw(badge)name.
bmw and audi (especially) have le mans pedigrees. holden have NEVER even been there. i personally, dont like the dynamics or look of the 911, however, id choose one over a holden anyday, merely becuase they have four decades of class wins in france.
deadjailorrocknroll 1 year ago
@deadjailorrocknroll,
The supercharged Vauxhall Monaro (the VXR500) is 500hp, slightly less power than the HSV W427.
If you are talking about the Vauxhall VXR8 Bathurst S, then it is 560hp, still somewhat short of the 600hp figure that you quoted.
So the 911 has won races in France, and that makes it a better car? How many times has a Porsche won at Bathurst?
79HZGTS 1 year ago
@79HZGTS plenty of times, actually... just not in the two horse race backyard class. the vauxhall is not 7 litres either. get your facts straight.
deadjailorrocknroll 1 year ago
@deadjailorrocknroll,
Ok, knucklehead, when did I ever say that the Vauxhall had a 7 litre engine?
79HZGTS 1 year ago
@79HZGTS the point i was making was regarding the bathurst wins. against cars like the ferrari, aston martin, lambo, etc. not fukn australian taxi`s.
deadjailorrocknroll 1 year ago
@deadjailorrocknroll,
You didn't answer my question. When did I ever say that the Vauxhall had a 7 litre engine?
79HZGTS 1 year ago
@deadjailorrocknroll It is not a walkinshaw.. it's a HSV. You pay for exceptional handling and comfort in one package. You need to be a true HSV enthusiast to understand what a truly magnificent car this is!
danoconnellhsv 1 year ago
@danoconnellhsv erm, why do you think there is a "w" in the name ? walkinshaw had a big input to this car. it is FAR removed from the monaro that won at bathurst. i dont need to be anything to appreciate any car, just someone who KNOWS about engineering.
fuck me... the muira had an on the axle mount "east-west" all alloy, one cast engine and gearbox back in `67. this is the same as a taxi. i bet all the clothing you wear comes form china, right ?
deadjailorrocknroll 1 year ago
retard its 370 at the fucken wheels:S
lilp3tal 2 years ago
no its not...its 365 kw at the flywheel not at the wheels. Not 370 kw. For the money, the power and the handling there are much better alternatives
123ATOM321 2 years ago
What spastic compare`s a v8 to a jap piece of shit that needs a turbo to get it to go,As the hsv w 427 has no turbo,no super charger,Take the turbo`s off of the jap shit all they are good for are wasting fuel.
scottsmad 2 years ago
and its engine is 2-3 times larger. lmfao -_-
NeonStreak 2 years ago
Australian production cars are slow then arnt they, that motor is capable of so much more, as for the cars set up, no where near the driving pleasure of a off tap gtr or even a nice bulit silvia with decent power and that jus a couple of car that would smoke it, i think the W427 should have the same set up as the zr1.
hypo069 2 years ago
Hypo069...... your an idiot.......
Bamwich 2 years ago 4
Well said man, just another Cockhead who likes japanese shit!
andcom05 2 years ago
It really has around 280kw at the wheels, damn slow i think from a 7.0L , no where near a supercar!!!!!! Get the supercharged walky!!!!
hypo069 2 years ago
Oh yeah, real slow. that's why it's the fastest Australian production car to date.
The great thing about having a big engine like this is because you get the best of both worlds. You get the decent power and speed, while still maintaining the decent durability and driveability that you don't get from allot of small capacity turbo cars!
andcom05 2 years ago
jap cars are greater than all
kinkii123 2 years ago
Skaife is a TOSSER!!!!!!!
ricksloans 2 years ago 2
ford gt40 will kill this shitbox
freedf6typhoon 2 years ago 2
I agree, but the car costs over 8 times as much as this beast.
bennings01 2 years ago
not really
the GT40 is what 100000 pounds
thats 300grand here
HSV what 150 grand
Magnus016 2 years ago
As a HSV owner myself i wouldnt waste my time on the new W427 it represents nothing of the old walky to be honest it looks nothing more like a gto wth a bonnet scoop and a differant motor..lol now i know why skaif is broke dumb ass
toofast77 3 years ago
this car is way overpriced for what youre getting. it should only be about 100 grand
sexymojo86 3 years ago
I agree. If they are going to charge over 100K for the car then we should expect more upgrades, ie putting more carbon fibre to save weight and boost speed.
666demonknight666 3 years ago
thats not the point. they are easy to drive stop like a king and are master of power slide. its a dumb brute. not a super fast carbon fiber thing from europe
Twiztidninjas 2 years ago
Those damn ballsy Aussies.
SagaraSouske 3 years ago
in the world
fpvxr8 3 years ago
Yeah its the best Holden yet and no Ford will ever beat that Ford Suck
holdenboy1569 3 years ago
buddy ford had the 1972 xy that was the fasterst 4 door in the work enough said
fpvxr8 3 years ago
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1972!! 36years ago mate....get over it , its now 2008..enuf said.
myvzss 3 years ago
yeh 36 yrssss ago mate an australian ford what has holden done since getting there 8s from the states 7.0 and 7.1 lit v8s and what nothing get a inline six ford with the same technolagy from 1988 ea engine with a turbo and will still blow ur doors off thats wat the ba/bf and now fg phoons are BUT im not a cock head i dont minde some holdens like the ve calais and the senotor would have been a bit better the w427 if thay changed more cosmetics so it stood out
fpvxr8 3 years ago
get over it ford sucked then and got even worse over time i cant wait till they sell up and fuck off coz they always will suck
holdenboy1569 3 years ago
looks like chevrolet will go bank rupt first dick head holdengirl pffft faggot
fpvxr8 3 years ago
go suck ya mum off you fucked up ford fucker
holdenboy1569 3 years ago
lets leave the ford fucker alone, tossers anyways, Holden HSV will always kill a FPV
FORD = Fucked on race day
FORD = Found on rubbish Dump
and chev to go bankrupt ? pfft, ford starting to sell aston and VW cause they cant afford em anymore
rayzeverlast 3 years ago
HOLDEN
Holden Owners Love Doing Erotic Necrophilia
Magnus016 2 years ago
If it were not for Chev, Holden Australia would still be stuck with there shit ass 5ltr engines.
I will be a supporter of Holden when they use a good Australian built engine.
Veritaslol 2 years ago
yeah but at the same time. if it wasnt for the mustang. ford wouldnt have its reputation it does today.
it would nly get as far as subaru r Mitsubishi. which is still good. but not as popular as holden (or ford as it is today)
rayzeverlast 2 years ago
** or
rayzeverlast 2 years ago
Think about it.
W427, 150,000 Dollars. Its not like everyone has a spare 150,000.
Xr6 turbo, 30,000 - 40,000 Dollars. More of and advantage in price. And what type of car would that be if you invested 90k into, It would be pretty awesome.
The ford Xr6 to F6 still has enough power to eat up a Chev/ Holden v8 and its more fuel efficient. I know what i would get.
Lol who said i was a ford fan anyway.
Veritaslol 2 years ago
yeah but the W427 is a collectors item. its only limited to 200. it makes a good investment but true ! lol
and no. technically it doesnt. the xr6 is now 270KW with the turbo. the VZ clubby 6.0lt would eat that easy. and i know i used to own a VZ clubby. its not how fast your car is. its how u drive it aswell.
BUT i can agree with u on the F6. G series that is. with 310 + a turbo giving it what 325KWs all up ?
but then again. i have seen both wins and losses from both sides
rayzeverlast 2 years ago
Yeah im with you there, but i still wouldnt buy one. I to have seen both sides win.
lol who am i to argue about it though. Most of my family drive, jaguars, Bmw's and Mercs. but im still one for aussie muscle, and i hope one day holden will release a holden motor (Even though its all GM) Just for the fact of saying its all australian built.
Veritaslol 2 years ago
The only reason wins go both ways is because the drivers are hideous. If they made two goodd professional drivers drive each an F6 or XR6T will beat any Holden. The XR6T will possibly need to be flash tuned to beat some of the HSV's though.
PaulDog9 2 years ago
Yeah good point mate.
Veritaslol 2 years ago
In alot of ways the 5 litre was superiour :) (much stronger low end torque), Just a pity it's so heavy
greenfoam 2 years ago
whats the fukin point of making there own v8 when they have access to already good engines. the 308 barely held up against a v6 vs in a drag. it sounded good but just like any other v8.
holdenls1ssz 2 years ago
Because it would be an achievement to put an Australian engine into an Australian car. I was never talking about a 308. They could make a 427ci EFI engine if they wanted. Gm Australia could make a good engine.
Veritaslol 2 years ago
good point, lets hope they do in the future. an aus dohc v8 would be good.
holdenls1ssz 2 years ago
Ye.
Veritaslol 2 years ago
" just like any other v8 " look more into the W427 and wake up to urself mate
madassdog1010 2 years ago
what the fuck are you on about?
holdenls1ssz 2 years ago
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madassdog1010 Holden australia could make a better engine. A stock F6 can run faster times than a stock w427 and the engine capactiy and torque is much higher. Very dissapointing even for me and i am a Ford man all the way though i love HSV's and the new VE Body!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PaulDog9 2 years ago
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Ok, your a Ford man and yet u love HSV'S??? The W427 is the fastest Australian production car to date, 0-100 in the mid 4s and with the speed limiter removed would easily see over 300kmh. And who said the F6 is faster? Was it Joe Fordwright from Australian musclecar magazine!
andcom05 2 years ago
ford fans make just make up times i wanna see what a stock f6 would do i dont hate fords or holdens i love all cars with potential (meaning turbo or v8) but facts are facts this is one of the best engines out there with soo much potential
ITGOEZ 2 years ago
its not mid 4 second range from 0 to 100 km/h. its in the high 4's.... you can get a Chrysler 300c SRT8 for half the price, and it has the exact same performance
(0-100 km/h in 4.9 seconds), and less power....Its not all about a big engine with a lot of power...the gearbox, wheels and tired are important in getting good numbers....from what i've heard the W427 is lanky around corners. That's why they got Mark Skaife to advertise it.
123ATOM321 2 years ago
Hi ya, well the 427 is in that performance range! Both Motor and even Wheels magazine have recorded 0-100 in 4.7 not 4.9 secs, and remember those test's are done with all that recording equipment strapped on and a full tank of fuel!
HSV's private testing at Calder with it's grippy surface and a light fuel load has seen a best of 4.4 secs.
Holden got Skaife to show it off because he is the new salesman for them, having picked up the baton after Peter left the building.
andcom05 2 years ago
And not because it has lanky?? handling.
HSV's have always had sharp dynamics, and this monster is no exception. With the Harrop full caliper racing brakes and magnetic ride suspension, it's one of the best steerer's out there! Motor ran it in there latest comparison lap test and it came in a very close third, just one tenth of a sec off the second placed car.
And it's rated at 375kw at the flywheel,
or 505hp in the old money.
andcom05 2 years ago