not true hmongontherun, our dna from the mitochondria did not, match that of chinese people , if anything we were closer to mien , but even mien wasnt that close .
hmong is chinese and chinese is hmong, don't believe get a dna test. it only cost 2,500 to get the test, you'll be surprise you may have mongolian blood in u also.
Nice video :) I was in China last semester and I spent the last month of December traveling around. I was fortunate to go to Yunnan and to meet the Hmong of China. It was a memorable experience, and this video reminded me how great it was.
Just the voice of this young Mong girl singing a tradition Mong Lug Txaj touches so much of my inner Mong that I can't hold back my tears for being proud of being a Mong and knowing that we had a very well established cultural history and unique language in the world.
but there are blond hair people living in China. Not all people from the same region look alike. Are you Hmong? If not, you shouldn't speak about their origin.
I love my Hmong people in China. Even I live in U S A I still love my people in China . You are my heart it does not matter where I live I am still love my people forever.
Hais txog Hmoob keeb kwm, dab neeg thiab ntaub ntawv tsis thuj thoob ces peb ho yuav ho kho li cas txij hnub no mus. I think that's the biggest challenge and most important venture not what I, he, she, or book claims. Left alone Hmong will always run in circle today, tomorrow, and endlessly needlessly.
niamtxiv, your rhetoric with HmongUniverse is amusing like the time you 'wrote me off' over being strictly Black Hmong. Seriously, if you are passionate about Hmong etc., as you allude then you need to be more openminded. Maybe some of us passionate Hmong can get together and compare notes, brainstorm, and get a consensus versus doubting one another. What y'all say.
If you study Chinese history, you will learn about the "divide and conquer policy" that was implemented against the Hmong ancestors. I am sure that long ago before the division of the Miao people were created, we were all ones. Cov laus yeej hais tias, Huabtais Suav muab peb Hmoob caiv, which means a Chinese emperor divided our people. Divide and conquer. Cooked Hmong and Raw Hmong... nco tsoom tias, in the end.... peb yog ib haiv neeg.
I don't understand some of you. It's very ignorant. How can you explain the elders who have little knowledge of history still talk about the war between Yawg Tsaab and Suav? How can you explain why some elders talk about Ua rog nrog Suav? Suav tuam choj? southern wall of China in Hunan? Huabtais Vwj Paj Yia of Hunan? Do not belittle your culture just because you have little knowledge of who you are. Just because one person from China tell you about Hmong history does not make it true.
if i was brought back in times i would like to write an absolute history of the hmong.......there is alot of story about us hmong.....hmong pple from china have many different folks tale that are different from us,the hmong in the mountain of laos.....i would like to know the accurate history hmong....these videos have give us alot detail i like it
Hey is that a statue of Chiyou at 0:50? This is great that people are trying to inform us on OUR hmong culture. We as in all hmongs/miaos need to keep our culture and practices alive for us HMONGS to survive and grow.
, December 21st, 2012 is the day God comes to raised the deads and judges the world for its sins, for our sins; Those who don't have the name of the father and son marked on thier foreheads will be cut down and destroyed, only those who have will remained on earth. whoever see this, Please tell all the people to go to church now to repent for their sins while there is little times left. If there is no church in your area, stop worshiped idols,kneel down every nday and ask god to forgives you
San Miao was given to the Mong as main ancestors. Therefore, not just recent writers, but artists also painted ChiYou’s picture to resembling part of the Mong group who wear horn-hats, and leggings. If so, ChiYou and their Jiuli tribes would have been hunters or herders. But history said they were farmers. The photo of Chiyou you see in this video was newly created. Mong were not original San Miao but were mixed with southern people. I hope all of you don't mistake for your history.
History stay within a group of people regardless if they're mixed. Wearing horn hats and leggings doesn't mean they're hunters and herders. Vaj Peb Hmoob has been retold in Hmong oral history for a long time. Southern people are Mab, northern people are Suav. San Miao was not given to the Hmong. Just as you know, Chiyou was described in ancient text as wearing horn-like headdress... Hmong people are known to wear legging, horns.
@niamtxiv Yes, San Miao are "Mab" (Nanman). Mab (Nanman) are direct descendants from San Miao. If Mong are San Miao, then Mong would be Mab, which past writers mistakengly wrote about the Mong being nanman. But Mong said they are and were not Mab (Mán). Since Mong came to marry many Mab wives, they genetically have San Miao blood, but their main ancestors are not San Miao.
@niamtxiv Yes, San Miao are "Mab" (Nanman). Mab (Nanman) are direct descendants from San Miao. If Mong are San Miao, then Mong would be Mab, which past writers mistakenly wrote about the Mong being nanman. But Mong said they are and were not Mab (Mán). Since Mong came to marry many Mab wives, they genetically have San Miao blood, but their main ancestors are not San Miao.
No, San Miao are not Mab. Nanman live below the Yangtze. Nanman are today Lolo speaking people and the Baiyue. San Miao = Vaj Hmoob, tsis yog Nanman. Nanman are Yi and Tai people. Nanzhao, AiLao.... are Mab. Mab in the Hmong language basically mean people from the south.
@niamtxiv Southern Mán (Mab) were direct descendants to the San Miao who fled south. Many of these southerm Mán are now Han Chinese. San Miao is NOT "Vaj Hmong". San Miao was the majority people of ancient southern people, south of the Yellow River area. Lolo, now Yi people, was labeled Miao before the term Miao was given to the Mong. And you are right that Lolo are also part of the Man (Mab) family. I wonder which source you have that talks about ChiYou wearing leggings, turban-horn, etc.
The only people that were considered as Miao were the Tujia, Gelao, Dong and Bouyei people that live in Hunan and Guizhou. Yi were not considered as Miao in history. San Miao people center in mid Yellow to mid Yangtze. Nanman people center in Sichuan and Yunnan to Guangxi. Vaj Hmoob is San Miao. I don't know where you get your source, but San Miao means Three Hmong... Vaj Peb Hmoob.
@niamtxiv First of all, thanks for your dialogue with me on this subject. According to my research in China, Yi was both known as Miao and Man. Historians believed that the southern Mán people were part of the San Miao’s descendants. Visit my page, and I’ll post some information there for you. How did you get that transition from San Miao to “Vaj Peb Hmoob” which is means “Wang San Meng” in Han pinyin. Are you also saying that Mong are part of these Miao people that you had listed?
I suggest 3miao dot net. It's just like how Hmong called Mongol, Manchu and other northern tribes as Suav. I have a video on here, called the Miao southwest ward migration. It's a Chinese video about the 3 Miao tribes that settled down along the mid Yangtze. Miao-Man is only because the Chinese couldn't differentiate, just like how we couldn't differentiate Han-Manchu-Mongol-Xiongnu.
@niamtxiv I know the owner to this website, and personally visited him a few years back in Beijing. He is a great guy, and he is paid to promote Miao History. My point is alot of the Miao history before Qing Dynasty was not Mong history. I hope you are not escalating more damages to the Mong history.
Escalating more damages to Hmong history? You have not done your homework, but listen to words from one person who is being PAID to promote history. Very intersting.
@niamtxiv I dont know whta you are saying here. ***You have not answer my question about how you derived "Vaj Peb Hmoob" from ChiYou? It seems that you are not agreeing with me that not all Miao history are Mong history. Is that right?
You need to understand that all the various Miao branches are indeed related, or are you still those Mong who believe Mong and Hmong are not related? I can tell you that the Green Mong in Thailand believe they are not related to the white Hmong.
@niamtxiv I think you have not read anything I posted on my page for you. I am saying that Mong and Hmong are the same people. ***But why are you inserting that I am saying the opposite? Maybe you don’t consider Mong to be your ancestors, but Miao. And maybe you are saying that those who go by the term Hmong are from Miao instead of Mong? I don’t think you want to know about Hmong history. ***Note that the term Miao was given to Mong, and it is not what they wanted to be called.
Kuv hais rau koj.. it's the same as we calling both Han, Mongol, Manchu and all other northern tribes as Suav. It's the same as we calling all southern people as Mab. Whether you disagree or agree, thaum ub, Hmoob dawb thiab moob Lees do not see one another as the same.
@niamtxiv I dont think all Mong all like that. The old thinking is not good for present-day Mong society. I hope you are not like that also. MongDaw and MongLeng could original be different tribes or they were developed into what they are today, but they both considered themselves to be Mong, which they are the same people.
@niamtxiv Why are you calling them "Green" while they are saying that they are MongLees (Mong Admittances)? It is important for younger generation to understand that the term "Miao" was first labeled term on the Mong society and it is not what Mong prefer to be called.
@moxncal Yes, we need to look beyond those terms, but we also need to stop segregate against people who go by Mong or Hmong, because they are the same people. And I hope that everyone will look at Mong/Hmong and Miao history carefully before we make the conclusion that San Miao was our primary ancestors. I understand that we all want to known the truth about our history and it is impotant that we dont leave out our true ancestors. Talking about it is a good thing.
hmong are chinese, idiots. chinese is just a general term for everyone that lives in the country of china. just like everyone who lives in america. han is just the ethnic group that happen to controll china right now. if miao " hmong" where to controll china it doesn't make a difference, hmong are still chinese. it's very easy to underestand/learn chinese if you are fluent in hmong, easier if you are white hmong.
Haven't we all learned that if we don't keep an open mind, history will repeat itself? I am Hmong. I'm proud of my history. It's just sad to see that we have some "ignorant", "uneducated" Hmong here. It's not that hard to do some researches before accepting "false" info as real info. I have chinese friends. They have never heard of Hmong before. But when they did a research on Hmong and see the word "Miao", they suddenly called me Chinese. We're all brothers, so stop bashing each others here.
Why are we bashing each others here?.. Hmong are chinese also. Hmong is Miao. We called ourselves Hmong. The Han called us Miao. Chinese is made of many different ethnicities. You can't called them chink without realizing that you're a chink also. You can't called them baby maker, when you're a baby maker also. The Great Wall wasn't for Hmong people. It's for the Mongols. The Southern Great Wall was for the Miao. It's what I heard and saw in an old documentary.
Haven't you people ever wonder why chinese people built the GREATWALL OF CHINA! they built it because they are afraid that the HMONG people will kill them all...
Miao is a nickname that the Chinese used...wat animal makes that sound?...a cat right?...the Chinese hated Hmong...the word Miao has been used so many times that it caught on...its like using "Beaner" for mexicans..it has that racist side to it...one day it will catch on and no one will notice that...dats how Miao is
We are people who never truly had a home. Landless people. You can say Laos was our home but it was never belonged to us, we just lived there. No one will ever understand us but other Hmong.
I recently talked to my dad and he said that I am 5th or 6th generation of our last name. my great great great grandpa was from China. I'm not sure of the other last name but I now know that my family is really from china.
well im not really a hmong archeologist statistic person, but i am studying early civilization and i dont think that hmong people can be from israel. the early chinese origin from yellow river, which geographically isolate them from other early civilizations like mesopotamians, indians, ect. they were surrounded by mountain range, desert, and jungle, which made it hard to expand. i know that hmong originated from china, which im pretty sure is correct, but im not sure about israel...my oppinion
when we forget our ancestors we forget who we are and what we stand for. Our ancestors fought for our beliefs and culture so keep our history close so we will not let our ancestor cry tears of rememberence!!
It's hard to keep our culture quite intact. Because, our culture isn't really modern and many of the Hmong kids in my middle school in China spoke only Chinese. I was one of them.
Many of us have been intermarried with Han Chinese. Assimilation is a strong pull for Hmong in China.
This video is quite old. Most Hmong don't live in these villages but in farms and close to cities. Many have moved to Beijing.
Our culture is unique and distinct. Our ancestors have suffered to protect and preserve our ancient ways of life. It's quite sad to see the rapid changes in our culture. Assimilation is also a strong pull for the Hmong outside China, but many still maintain a very strict ways of life. I am part Hmong and Yi, as my parents told me.
No matter where we are in the world we should always remember where we come from and where our ancestors come from; therefor, our cultures should always be close to us. It doesn't matter if your Hmong, Chinese, Laos, or Thai, you should always remember who you are and try not to fit in with anybody but yourself.
Don't worry my hmong people anyday yall wanna killed their entire chinese hit me up these days numbers dont matter how much you are. ill use my nuclear bomb and boom your land and you chinks are all wiped out so holla haha technology rules now nuclear and they will all be gone
Chinese cousins ?! I don't understand, do you mean the jap? jap pig is your cousins not ours. The nuclear bomb belongs to your white master american, not you. you suck
@kevinhawj13 sadly,we chinese also have nuclear bomb,the hmong people live quite well in china.they were killed in Laos ,but not in china,you should learn more.
no u should learn more because USA has way more nuclear bomb then china and no china doesnt have nuclear bomb the USA nuclear bomb is forbidden and I didnt say hmong were getting killed in china
@kevinhawj13 It seems that you don't admit the truth.Ok,I won't explain anything to you.But,you should remeber the country let you live well is also the one caused the disaster of your nation.
Umm you chinks caused disaster to yourself who told you guys to make so many babies that takes up most of the population in the world. Now thats a true fact unless you really don't know then my advice for you is don't drop out of school ok
You were urged by American to fight with the aborigines,then you were killed by the them.Now you're brain-washed by America again,so sad for you American slaves.
huh? wat are you talking about im not even a slave oh but for sure you guys were japanese slaves and thats true you guys did get brain washed by japanese ahahah wow how sad of you guys to be slaves. Stop making babies its filling up the nation baby makers ahaha
Because your nation listened to American who put you in danger in the 1970s, and now you listen to them again.Last time your people were in danger, this time your culture will be.
Chinks didn't lose their culture because we are chinks too. Be proud, because we are the most ancient civilization left on earth til today: China. We are a multicultural nation. Others envied our cultures.
I know we are Hmong/Mong. We originated from the land now called China and that makes us Chinese. The guy you were arguing with is mostly a Han. He's also Chinese. If you didn't know that Hmong are Chinese also, you should do some researches. There are 50++ ethnicities in China. Hmong is one of them. That makes us Chinese.
no just because it was called china doesn't mean were chinese. We aren't chinese they are like relativees to use only were not chinese. Samoa and tanga are both from Hawaii but they are different, you cant say a samoa is a tanga and a tanga is a samoa
Seriously dude, you dont get it huh? Then let me explain to you. Samoa are not Tanga. Tanga are not Samoa. But they both live in Hawaii, and that makes them both of Hawaiians. We are chinese because China is our original country, homeland. The "Han", incase you didn't know, is another ethnicity of chinese nationals like us Hmong which is known as Miao in China. Hmong are as much chinese as the Han. Why? Because we both lived in the land now called China. THEREFORE, WE ARE CHINESE. GOT IT NOW?
seriously it was not called china before. when the land belongs to the hmong it didn't belong to chinese ok so we are not chinese. We can say that out land were connected but then it was not just named china ok. Learn our hmong history. Think and ask questions around wat are u saying I even have a chinese friend who his grandpa told me himself that hmong and chinese lived in the same land but then hmong land was never called china ok. GOT IT NOW!
Go ahead and ignore me because you know that I am right. We are not chinese, we are hmong and hmong forever all not chinese. Well unless you want to be chinese then you can consider yourself chinese. Dude Han is chinese and miao of course I know that is hmong thats what chinese call us miao but then we don't call ourselves miao we call ourselves hmong.
L O L. Can someone please explain to this guy ,Kevinhawj, what is a "chinese"? What are the 50+ original ethnicities of China? And explain to him why they are called Chinese? Where Hmong originated and the relationship between Huang Di, Yan Di, and Chi You? How China was formed?
dude hmong are not called chinese i hope u know that for now already. WOW why tell someone to tell me is it because u can't give me the real facts that were hmong not chinese? We are hmong and always hmong not chinese get it. Face the fact that hmong and chinese is not called the same
seriously dude, you don't even know what is a "chinese". How can you say that we are not chinese? Describe to me what does "Chinese" meant to you please.
No before you ask to explain you should tell me what is hmong first before you even bring up Chinese because I was not the one who question u. U was the one who questioned me so you tell me what is hmong before telling me what chinese means. What is it mean of Hmong
@kevinhawj13 Alright. I will tell you. Hmong is a chinese ethnicity. An ethnicity that originated from the area now called Beijing. Hmong is known as Miao by the rest of the other chinese ethnicity. Miao = "rice children" because we first cultivated rice. Other chinese ethnicities called us Miao, but we called ourself Hmong/Mong. Since we originated from the land now called China, we are Chinese like every other ethnicities that originated from China. We have every rights to be Chinese.
@kevinhawj13 I have been answering all of your questions this whole time. Now explain to me what does "Chinese" meant to you? Since you used the word Chinese all the time. It sounded like you used the word "Chinese" to refer to 1 chinese ethnicity only. Or maybe you don't know the differences between "ethnicity" and "nationality"?
And if I'm right about you using the word "Chinese" to refer to 1 chinese ethnicity, then you are as UNEDUCATED like every other average american who keep using the word chinese to refer to 1 chinese (national, race, kind), without knowing that china is a very diversified country just like the US. China has many ethnicities that originated from its land, and they are all Chinese. Or maybe you just don't understand my english.??? XD
LOL. Like I said "Hmong are not Han. Han are not Hmong. Hmong are not Tibetan. Hmong are not Yao. Hmong are not Manchurian. But we're all Chinese." If you don't get this, then I can't help you anymore. But, if you do now, then you will realize why Tanga isnt Samoa, but they are Hawaiians.
LOL U mean I cant help you anymore Hmong are hmong not chinese. and chinese is chinese not hmong. I feel bad because u really dont understand me at all
Do you even know what is a "Chinese"? If you think chinese= "just" the Han, then you really are confused. Wait! Do you even what is a Han? Or what is a Yao or Dong? If don't get the concept I'm trying to present here, then you are confused. I can't help you any further. Don't write back. I want you to think why China has 50+ ORIGINAL ethnicities and China called them all "CHINESE". When you finally understand, then write back and tell me you got it. Other than that, Im just going to ignore you.
Ok will why won't you tell me what hmong is first since your all telling me that Hmong is chinese. I never even was talking about Chinese until u replied to me saying that Hmong are chinese. No Hmong are called Miao but they are not called chinese. Can't you see Hmong is spelled HMONG and chinese is spelled CHINESE So how is it the same. OMG so hillarious ahaha Come on dude tell me what Is hmong unless you cant tell me ahaha Cuzz i know what chinese is already
I think I get what koukunut is trying to get across to you.....let's look at it this way.
You are Hmong. You live in America. That also makes you an American right? Just like if you are Hmong and live in France...you are French. or if you live in Australia...you are Australian.
I guess what koukunut is trying to tell you is....Hmong originate from China. That would make our origins Chinese.
I already understand that but then i was telling him that we are not really chinese though. He keeps saying that we are and something about we are Han or something like that. No we are not Han, Han's are chinese we are Hmong and forever live the Hmong
We didn't put ourselves in danger. We were in danger already because we didn't want to cooperate with the vietcong. This all happened before we decided to side with CIA to fight for our freedom and to help the American soldiers. Freedom? Of course freedom... Who don't want freedom? Hmong people wanted to be left alone. How could we when a war is approaching us? It's a sacrifice, but we have a lot of Hmong in the US now.
we all know where we came from blah blah blah but remember the Chinese kill are kind and hide are history too we dont really know everything still.
even if we forget the pass and live on where still missing a piece of are chapters in are history. just like when ur reading a box or playing games and theres a ripped out page or a huge fuckin scratch where not complete intil everything is one. am i right?
Why don't someone go and try to wipe out the entire Han Chinese population? They are a major problem in the world today! How would the Han Chinese like it if someone was to wipe out their entire population?
so who is this "someone" that should wipe out the entire han chinese population which is 1.3 billion ppl and makes up 20% of the earth's population? superman? son guku? lol u stupid idiot
this is so sad. from what i've heard, chinese wanted to kill off all the hmongs, kinda like hitler. they killed off 2 of the 21 clans. thats why there are only 19 hmong clans left (original last names, ex. lee, vang, xiong...) the cha clan was almost wiped out, but two cha general took leadership against chinese. One known weilded a spear, feared by the chinese. he then led the hmong to hid in the mountains. thats according to the stories my friend's grandpa told before he passed away.
@yuanxiaoyi well, ur mistaken because before the hmong people were killed in laos, they came from china, where they were forced to go to laos because of the mass killing that the chinese did, which forced them south to laos and thailand. there are still some hmong people in south china
@vajruam I think it can't be called mass killing,we fought for thousands of years,it's a long war,also many han-chinese were killed.Of course, I don't like the war.
arguing where we come from is old news very old news we are lucky that the world especially the countries that we live excepts us. look back and see how we accomplish to reunite not by war but by thinking of who we are and where we come from.
hmong are all hmong we must forget the past and think about the future. now all hmong know where we all come from with historic proof and origins. this is the greatest step for the hmong people. nomatter where you live we are all one do not for get where we all come from and who we are now we have a written history of our own in this world be proud of your self.
I cannot imagine what our ancestors went through. They must have endured so much sorrows, pains and hardships while migrating from the yellow river home to southwest china and into southeast asia. This is why our people are so diverse in culture. We are distant physically and geographically, but we belong to the same lineage because of shared history, culture, languages, origin and traditions.
not true hmongontherun, our dna from the mitochondria did not, match that of chinese people , if anything we were closer to mien , but even mien wasnt that close .
HmongPSU 3 weeks ago
Zoo heev!!!! Hmong all the way!!!!!
chengxiong95 2 months ago
what instrumental is this?????
Mr99civichatch 2 months ago
hmong is chinese and chinese is hmong, don't believe get a dna test. it only cost 2,500 to get the test, you'll be surprise you may have mongolian blood in u also.
hmoobontherun 2 months ago
what is the name of this song please tell?
chochavang 8 months ago
Nice video :) I was in China last semester and I spent the last month of December traveling around. I was fortunate to go to Yunnan and to meet the Hmong of China. It was a memorable experience, and this video reminded me how great it was.
kimmua 9 months ago
Hmong people are unique and beautiful!
tiklovesaom 10 months ago
I knew it along! I did a reseach about My own people the Hmong In china and they are us and we are them as one people!
Tulu 1 year ago
R.I.P GVP. what will they think of us now?. hmmm
kingkushLSD 1 year ago
LOVE the song Forbidden Colors - Ryuichi Sakamoto <3
Amalitha1 1 year ago
Just the voice of this young Mong girl singing a tradition Mong Lug Txaj touches so much of my inner Mong that I can't hold back my tears for being proud of being a Mong and knowing that we had a very well established cultural history and unique language in the world.
qhuacai 1 year ago 2
sorry but may i ask what is the title of the medley of the piano and violin?
and by the way this is such a touching sad video...i just love and tear falls
xeaweed 1 year ago
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B372131 1 year ago
AMAZING VIDEO
mrjjh121290 1 year ago
@Chinastar85
but there are blond hair people living in China. Not all people from the same region look alike. Are you Hmong? If not, you shouldn't speak about their origin.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
Chinese people know us as the "meow, or hanun"
onesnowfall 1 year ago
I love my Hmong people in China. Even I live in U S A I still love my people in China . You are my heart it does not matter where I live I am still love my people forever.
alwaysf0r3v3r 1 year ago
Damn it I miss my Hmong people, much love coming from 540 Virginia,USA Hmong pride all the time. Peace
LordLeng559 1 year ago
The terms Hmong/Mong equate to the white and green clans of the Hmong/Mong people. Other than that, a Hmong is a Mong and a Mong is a Hmong.
roxs8520 1 year ago
@roxs8520
It's Hmong... unique.... why would we want to call our-self "Mong?"
Do we want others to mistaken us as "Mongol of Mongolia?" or "Mon of southern Thailand?" or "Muong of Vietnam?"
I prefer Hmong.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
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moxncal 1 year ago
proud to be HMONG....all hmong should watch these clips...our history goes so far back that no one even knows our true origins
alexreh 1 year ago
kuv yog hmoob...:D
Lcplvang21 1 year ago
@Lcplvang21 kuv yog miao!
moxncal 1 year ago
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Lcplvang21 1 year ago
Hais txog Hmoob keeb kwm, dab neeg thiab ntaub ntawv tsis thuj thoob ces peb ho yuav ho kho li cas txij hnub no mus. I think that's the biggest challenge and most important venture not what I, he, she, or book claims. Left alone Hmong will always run in circle today, tomorrow, and endlessly needlessly.
aliasdoe007 1 year ago
niamtxiv, your rhetoric with HmongUniverse is amusing like the time you 'wrote me off' over being strictly Black Hmong. Seriously, if you are passionate about Hmong etc., as you allude then you need to be more openminded. Maybe some of us passionate Hmong can get together and compare notes, brainstorm, and get a consensus versus doubting one another. What y'all say.
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2blue1 1 year ago
If you study Chinese history, you will learn about the "divide and conquer policy" that was implemented against the Hmong ancestors. I am sure that long ago before the division of the Miao people were created, we were all ones. Cov laus yeej hais tias, Huabtais Suav muab peb Hmoob caiv, which means a Chinese emperor divided our people. Divide and conquer. Cooked Hmong and Raw Hmong... nco tsoom tias, in the end.... peb yog ib haiv neeg.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
I don't understand some of you. It's very ignorant. How can you explain the elders who have little knowledge of history still talk about the war between Yawg Tsaab and Suav? How can you explain why some elders talk about Ua rog nrog Suav? Suav tuam choj? southern wall of China in Hunan? Huabtais Vwj Paj Yia of Hunan? Do not belittle your culture just because you have little knowledge of who you are. Just because one person from China tell you about Hmong history does not make it true.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
Utada's music in the background goes well for the video [=
ChillXionger 1 year ago
@ChillXionger
Utada's? Ryuichi Sakamoto, Merry christmas, Mr. Lawrence
youtube.com/watch?v=5mfyCI82lWM
GnoomH 1 year ago
if i was brought back in times i would like to write an absolute history of the hmong.......there is alot of story about us hmong.....hmong pple from china have many different folks tale that are different from us,the hmong in the mountain of laos.....i would like to know the accurate history hmong....these videos have give us alot detail i like it
dannyvaj 1 year ago
Hey is that a statue of Chiyou at 0:50? This is great that people are trying to inform us on OUR hmong culture. We as in all hmongs/miaos need to keep our culture and practices alive for us HMONGS to survive and grow.
HmongHipHop 1 year ago
@HmongHipHop yes,I know the Chinese
yuanxiaoyi 1 year ago
, December 21st, 2012 is the day God comes to raised the deads and judges the world for its sins, for our sins; Those who don't have the name of the father and son marked on thier foreheads will be cut down and destroyed, only those who have will remained on earth. whoever see this, Please tell all the people to go to church now to repent for their sins while there is little times left. If there is no church in your area, stop worshiped idols,kneel down every nday and ask god to forgives you
thelostsheep2012 1 year ago
@thelostsheep2012 I thought it was the 23rd and not the 21st o-o
beelauj1 1 year ago
@thelostsheep2012
glad to know your scared, dont go spamming your crap info on peoples vid cuzz its annoying as HELL
xyang26 1 year ago
Yeah Hmong people!
ChowZeb 1 year ago
San Miao was given to the Mong as main ancestors. Therefore, not just recent writers, but artists also painted ChiYou’s picture to resembling part of the Mong group who wear horn-hats, and leggings. If so, ChiYou and their Jiuli tribes would have been hunters or herders. But history said they were farmers. The photo of Chiyou you see in this video was newly created. Mong were not original San Miao but were mixed with southern people. I hope all of you don't mistake for your history.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
History stay within a group of people regardless if they're mixed. Wearing horn hats and leggings doesn't mean they're hunters and herders. Vaj Peb Hmoob has been retold in Hmong oral history for a long time. Southern people are Mab, northern people are Suav. San Miao was not given to the Hmong. Just as you know, Chiyou was described in ancient text as wearing horn-like headdress... Hmong people are known to wear legging, horns.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Yes, San Miao are "Mab" (Nanman). Mab (Nanman) are direct descendants from San Miao. If Mong are San Miao, then Mong would be Mab, which past writers mistakengly wrote about the Mong being nanman. But Mong said they are and were not Mab (Mán). Since Mong came to marry many Mab wives, they genetically have San Miao blood, but their main ancestors are not San Miao.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse both of you who giva fk nbdy gva fk that y u r fighting bcuh u r so fkn dumb YEAHAHAHAHAHAAA >:S
vauhxtn 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Yes, San Miao are "Mab" (Nanman). Mab (Nanman) are direct descendants from San Miao. If Mong are San Miao, then Mong would be Mab, which past writers mistakenly wrote about the Mong being nanman. But Mong said they are and were not Mab (Mán). Since Mong came to marry many Mab wives, they genetically have San Miao blood, but their main ancestors are not San Miao.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
No, San Miao are not Mab. Nanman live below the Yangtze. Nanman are today Lolo speaking people and the Baiyue. San Miao = Vaj Hmoob, tsis yog Nanman. Nanman are Yi and Tai people. Nanzhao, AiLao.... are Mab. Mab in the Hmong language basically mean people from the south.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Southern Mán (Mab) were direct descendants to the San Miao who fled south. Many of these southerm Mán are now Han Chinese. San Miao is NOT "Vaj Hmong". San Miao was the majority people of ancient southern people, south of the Yellow River area. Lolo, now Yi people, was labeled Miao before the term Miao was given to the Mong. And you are right that Lolo are also part of the Man (Mab) family. I wonder which source you have that talks about ChiYou wearing leggings, turban-horn, etc.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
The only people that were considered as Miao were the Tujia, Gelao, Dong and Bouyei people that live in Hunan and Guizhou. Yi were not considered as Miao in history. San Miao people center in mid Yellow to mid Yangtze. Nanman people center in Sichuan and Yunnan to Guangxi. Vaj Hmoob is San Miao. I don't know where you get your source, but San Miao means Three Hmong... Vaj Peb Hmoob.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv First of all, thanks for your dialogue with me on this subject. According to my research in China, Yi was both known as Miao and Man. Historians believed that the southern Mán people were part of the San Miao’s descendants. Visit my page, and I’ll post some information there for you. How did you get that transition from San Miao to “Vaj Peb Hmoob” which is means “Wang San Meng” in Han pinyin. Are you also saying that Mong are part of these Miao people that you had listed?
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
I suggest 3miao dot net. It's just like how Hmong called Mongol, Manchu and other northern tribes as Suav. I have a video on here, called the Miao southwest ward migration. It's a Chinese video about the 3 Miao tribes that settled down along the mid Yangtze. Miao-Man is only because the Chinese couldn't differentiate, just like how we couldn't differentiate Han-Manchu-Mongol-Xiongnu.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv I know the owner to this website, and personally visited him a few years back in Beijing. He is a great guy, and he is paid to promote Miao History. My point is alot of the Miao history before Qing Dynasty was not Mong history. I hope you are not escalating more damages to the Mong history.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
Escalating more damages to Hmong history? You have not done your homework, but listen to words from one person who is being PAID to promote history. Very intersting.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv I dont know whta you are saying here. ***You have not answer my question about how you derived "Vaj Peb Hmoob" from ChiYou? It seems that you are not agreeing with me that not all Miao history are Mong history. Is that right?
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
You need to understand that all the various Miao branches are indeed related, or are you still those Mong who believe Mong and Hmong are not related? I can tell you that the Green Mong in Thailand believe they are not related to the white Hmong.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv I think you have not read anything I posted on my page for you. I am saying that Mong and Hmong are the same people. ***But why are you inserting that I am saying the opposite? Maybe you don’t consider Mong to be your ancestors, but Miao. And maybe you are saying that those who go by the term Hmong are from Miao instead of Mong? I don’t think you want to know about Hmong history. ***Note that the term Miao was given to Mong, and it is not what they wanted to be called.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse
Kuv hais rau koj.. it's the same as we calling both Han, Mongol, Manchu and all other northern tribes as Suav. It's the same as we calling all southern people as Mab. Whether you disagree or agree, thaum ub, Hmoob dawb thiab moob Lees do not see one another as the same.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv I dont think all Mong all like that. The old thinking is not good for present-day Mong society. I hope you are not like that also. MongDaw and MongLeng could original be different tribes or they were developed into what they are today, but they both considered themselves to be Mong, which they are the same people.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@niamtxiv Why are you calling them "Green" while they are saying that they are MongLees (Mong Admittances)? It is important for younger generation to understand that the term "Miao" was first labeled term on the Mong society and it is not what Mong prefer to be called.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
@HmongUniverse hmong, mong, miao all the same to me. derogatory or not, look beyond the derogatoryness and move on to a higher level of being!
moxncal 1 year ago
@moxncal Yes, we need to look beyond those terms, but we also need to stop segregate against people who go by Mong or Hmong, because they are the same people. And I hope that everyone will look at Mong/Hmong and Miao history carefully before we make the conclusion that San Miao was our primary ancestors. I understand that we all want to known the truth about our history and it is impotant that we dont leave out our true ancestors. Talking about it is a good thing.
HmongUniverse 1 year ago
No one gives a fuck about Hmong. Its all about Money and who do you work for.
KillerXify 1 year ago
@KillerXify It is about the MONEY, but I dont work for anyone. I offer my service and they pay me for it.
koukunut 1 year ago
@KillerXify go fuck your sister, you sick fuck!!!!! a matter of fact, kill yourself!!!!
yangstaboi06 1 year ago
yangstaoi06, you can go fuck the wall and get sodomized for being a dumb fuck.
KillerXify 1 year ago
aww i see you mad because iam styling on your bitch ass! you fail nasty YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
yangstaboi06 1 year ago
Im not mad, Im glad that your the idiot making yourself look bad for responding to me in the first place.
KillerXify 1 year ago
what happen to our culture? today we are nothing compare to what our ancestor did. we or us Hmong slowly are losing the value our ancestor once had
aznkingdom12345 1 year ago
hmong are chinese, idiots. chinese is just a general term for everyone that lives in the country of china. just like everyone who lives in america. han is just the ethnic group that happen to controll china right now. if miao " hmong" where to controll china it doesn't make a difference, hmong are still chinese. it's very easy to underestand/learn chinese if you are fluent in hmong, easier if you are white hmong.
AiirMmsx 1 year ago
kevinher13 and koukunut shut up you guys are numbnuttts just give eachother you number and holla at each other over the phone... dusch baggs...
kennedymoua80 1 year ago
U guy's are funny!
Theblinkmen 1 year ago
my gosh, silly, don't debating. Be proud of yourself.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
what is the name of the piano song playing in the background?
eeloak777 2 years ago
Geeze, people, quit ruining the comments section.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
Haven't we all learned that if we don't keep an open mind, history will repeat itself? I am Hmong. I'm proud of my history. It's just sad to see that we have some "ignorant", "uneducated" Hmong here. It's not that hard to do some researches before accepting "false" info as real info. I have chinese friends. They have never heard of Hmong before. But when they did a research on Hmong and see the word "Miao", they suddenly called me Chinese. We're all brothers, so stop bashing each others here.
koukunut 2 years ago
Why are we bashing each others here?.. Hmong are chinese also. Hmong is Miao. We called ourselves Hmong. The Han called us Miao. Chinese is made of many different ethnicities. You can't called them chink without realizing that you're a chink also. You can't called them baby maker, when you're a baby maker also. The Great Wall wasn't for Hmong people. It's for the Mongols. The Southern Great Wall was for the Miao. It's what I heard and saw in an old documentary.
koukunut 2 years ago
Haven't you people ever wonder why chinese people built the GREATWALL OF CHINA! they built it because they are afraid that the HMONG people will kill them all...
MrKouang 2 years ago
@yuanxiaoyi yea i know, im a bit exaggerating, but hopefully you get my point
not that im putting them down
this is just what i have heard
plz take no offense in my comments
vajruam 2 years ago
Miao is a nickname that the Chinese used...wat animal makes that sound?...a cat right?...the Chinese hated Hmong...the word Miao has been used so many times that it caught on...its like using "Beaner" for mexicans..it has that racist side to it...one day it will catch on and no one will notice that...dats how Miao is
MirageBoi 2 years ago
oh and if ur wondering
back then in china hmong people were called miao
vajruam 2 years ago
We are people who never truly had a home. Landless people. You can say Laos was our home but it was never belonged to us, we just lived there. No one will ever understand us but other Hmong.
SimonLy90 2 years ago
well, hmong people originated from china, but i guess you cant really say that is their land. lolz
vajruam 2 years ago
so cool :)
CrazyNative4 2 years ago
I recently talked to my dad and he said that I am 5th or 6th generation of our last name. my great great great grandpa was from China. I'm not sure of the other last name but I now know that my family is really from china.
maya86 2 years ago
We came a long way and I have a blank answer to every Hmong professor that cannot answered to my question:
Are one of the lost tribe of Israel? Can you show me some evidence that we are not from Israel?
Please, I need help from a Hmong Archeologist Statistic person please...
KevinVang1000 2 years ago
@KevinVang1000
We are not from Israel. There is no evidence at all. Hmong origin stem from the Yellow and Yangtze rivers.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
Well, I need some evidence that we are not from israel because I do not know for sure.
Please, we must rely on possibility instead of assuming the facts about our history.
KevinVang1000 2 years ago
well im not really a hmong archeologist statistic person, but i am studying early civilization and i dont think that hmong people can be from israel. the early chinese origin from yellow river, which geographically isolate them from other early civilizations like mesopotamians, indians, ect. they were surrounded by mountain range, desert, and jungle, which made it hard to expand. i know that hmong originated from china, which im pretty sure is correct, but im not sure about israel...my oppinion
vajruam 2 years ago
no we hmong did not come from israel because there is no proof for that and for sure we know that we came from china not israel
12563longkhang 2 years ago 2
Ryuchi Sakamato: Merry Christmas, Mr, Lawrence.
His piano piece sounds nice...very nice and I have his sheet music as well. ^_^
KevinVang1000 2 years ago
CHIng CHongPONG??
AZBOF209 2 years ago
Asshole...
I will cambodia your asses, you racist bitch...
KevinVang1000 2 years ago
look back behind. y most of the hmong ppl live on the steep mt and remote areas. that is the only reason we still call ourselves hmong and survive.
oarfishtkb1 2 years ago
when we forget our ancestors we forget who we are and what we stand for. Our ancestors fought for our beliefs and culture so keep our history close so we will not let our ancestor cry tears of rememberence!!
pac916 2 years ago
@pac916
i'm part hmong - miao and part Bai
It's hard to keep our culture quite intact. Because, our culture isn't really modern and many of the Hmong kids in my middle school in China spoke only Chinese. I was one of them.
Many of us have been intermarried with Han Chinese. Assimilation is a strong pull for Hmong in China.
This video is quite old. Most Hmong don't live in these villages but in farms and close to cities. Many have moved to Beijing.
icouldcareless50 2 years ago
Our culture is unique and distinct. Our ancestors have suffered to protect and preserve our ancient ways of life. It's quite sad to see the rapid changes in our culture. Assimilation is also a strong pull for the Hmong outside China, but many still maintain a very strict ways of life. I am part Hmong and Yi, as my parents told me.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
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pac916 2 years ago
No matter where we are in the world we should always remember where we come from and where our ancestors come from; therefor, our cultures should always be close to us. It doesn't matter if your Hmong, Chinese, Laos, or Thai, you should always remember who you are and try not to fit in with anybody but yourself.
pac916 2 years ago
Don't worry my hmong people anyday yall wanna killed their entire chinese hit me up these days numbers dont matter how much you are. ill use my nuclear bomb and boom your land and you chinks are all wiped out so holla haha technology rules now nuclear and they will all be gone
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
kevinhawj13
Don't talk nonsense, where is your nuclear bomb? you think the Chinese are so weak?
Stupid fuck
custno08 2 years ago
custno08
American just used it on your chinese cousins dumb chink. Your the stupid fuck who has no sense
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
Chinese cousins ?! I don't understand, do you mean the jap? jap pig is your cousins not ours. The nuclear bomb belongs to your white master american, not you. you suck
custno08 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13 sadly,we chinese also have nuclear bomb,the hmong people live quite well in china.they were killed in Laos ,but not in china,you should learn more.
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
no u should learn more because USA has way more nuclear bomb then china and no china doesnt have nuclear bomb the USA nuclear bomb is forbidden and I didnt say hmong were getting killed in china
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13 we made nuclear bombs many years ago.there're still many in china.
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
nope maybe made bomb but not nuclear bomb like how the US made them
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13 Of course it is,you can search
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
nope not like the US nuc
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13 Search "nuclear china" using "google".
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
Dude I already told you it's not going to be as good as US Nuc
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
It's not what you think,do you have the providence?
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
yes havent you learn it in school. If not then go back to school
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13 It seems that you don't admit the truth.Ok,I won't explain anything to you.But,you should remeber the country let you live well is also the one caused the disaster of your nation.
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
Umm you chinks caused disaster to yourself who told you guys to make so many babies that takes up most of the population in the world. Now thats a true fact unless you really don't know then my advice for you is don't drop out of school ok
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
You were urged by American to fight with the aborigines,then you were killed by the them.Now you're brain-washed by America again,so sad for you American slaves.
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
huh? wat are you talking about im not even a slave oh but for sure you guys were japanese slaves and thats true you guys did get brain washed by japanese ahahah wow how sad of you guys to be slaves. Stop making babies its filling up the nation baby makers ahaha
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
Because your nation listened to American who put you in danger in the 1970s, and now you listen to them again.Last time your people were in danger, this time your culture will be.
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
just because it happend to chinks doesn't mean its going to happen to us. Hmong are smart they won't fail their culture. trust me
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13
Chinks didn't lose their culture because we are chinks too. Be proud, because we are the most ancient civilization left on earth til today: China. We are a multicultural nation. Others envied our cultures.
koukunut 2 years ago
hmongs don't lose their culture thats why we still standing strong on earth til today. we don't even envied your guys culture. We have our own
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
Dude..I guess you don't know our history. Hmong are Chinese also.
koukunut 2 years ago
? what are you saying. We are not chinese. Were hmong. We can't say oh were chinese and boom oh were hmong. No we are from china but not chinese
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
I know we are Hmong/Mong. We originated from the land now called China and that makes us Chinese. The guy you were arguing with is mostly a Han. He's also Chinese. If you didn't know that Hmong are Chinese also, you should do some researches. There are 50++ ethnicities in China. Hmong is one of them. That makes us Chinese.
koukunut 2 years ago
no just because it was called china doesn't mean were chinese. We aren't chinese they are like relativees to use only were not chinese. Samoa and tanga are both from Hawaii but they are different, you cant say a samoa is a tanga and a tanga is a samoa
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
And they are both Hawaiians right? We are not Han. Han are not Hmong/Mong/Miao. But Han and Hmong/Mong/Miao are Chinese.
koukunut 2 years ago
lol u didn't understand what I just said so then Samoa can be called Tanga too
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@kevinhawj13
You are the one that don't understand what I just said.
koukunut 2 years ago
LoL no reread what I wrote to you
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
Seriously, take a second and reread what I wrote. You will understand.
koukunut 2 years ago
No seriously So your saying that Samoa are Tanga then
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
Seriously dude, you dont get it huh? Then let me explain to you. Samoa are not Tanga. Tanga are not Samoa. But they both live in Hawaii, and that makes them both of Hawaiians. We are chinese because China is our original country, homeland. The "Han", incase you didn't know, is another ethnicity of chinese nationals like us Hmong which is known as Miao in China. Hmong are as much chinese as the Han. Why? Because we both lived in the land now called China. THEREFORE, WE ARE CHINESE. GOT IT NOW?
koukunut 2 years ago
seriously it was not called china before. when the land belongs to the hmong it didn't belong to chinese ok so we are not chinese. We can say that out land were connected but then it was not just named china ok. Learn our hmong history. Think and ask questions around wat are u saying I even have a chinese friend who his grandpa told me himself that hmong and chinese lived in the same land but then hmong land was never called china ok. GOT IT NOW!
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
You really don't get it.
koukunut 2 years ago
@koukunut
LOL I guess I have to repeat myself then reread what I wrote to u and what u wrote
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
@koukunut
Go ahead and ignore me because you know that I am right. We are not chinese, we are hmong and hmong forever all not chinese. Well unless you want to be chinese then you can consider yourself chinese. Dude Han is chinese and miao of course I know that is hmong thats what chinese call us miao but then we don't call ourselves miao we call ourselves hmong.
kevinhawj13 1 year ago
L O L. Can someone please explain to this guy ,Kevinhawj, what is a "chinese"? What are the 50+ original ethnicities of China? And explain to him why they are called Chinese? Where Hmong originated and the relationship between Huang Di, Yan Di, and Chi You? How China was formed?
koukunut 1 year ago
@koukunut
dude hmong are not called chinese i hope u know that for now already. WOW why tell someone to tell me is it because u can't give me the real facts that were hmong not chinese? We are hmong and always hmong not chinese get it. Face the fact that hmong and chinese is not called the same
kevinhawj13 1 year ago
seriously dude, you don't even know what is a "chinese". How can you say that we are not chinese? Describe to me what does "Chinese" meant to you please.
koukunut 1 year ago
No before you ask to explain you should tell me what is hmong first before you even bring up Chinese because I was not the one who question u. U was the one who questioned me so you tell me what is hmong before telling me what chinese means. What is it mean of Hmong
kevinhawj13 1 year ago
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koukunut 1 year ago
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@kevinhawj13 Alright. I will tell you. Hmong is a chinese ethnicity. An ethnicity that originated from the area now called Beijing. Hmong is known as Miao by the rest of the other chinese ethnicity. Miao = "rice children" because we first cultivated rice. Other chinese ethnicities called us Miao, but we called ourself Hmong/Mong. Since we originated from the land now called China, we are Chinese like every other ethnicities that originated from China. We have every rights to be Chinese.
koukunut 1 year ago
@kevinhawj13 I have been answering all of your questions this whole time. Now explain to me what does "Chinese" meant to you? Since you used the word Chinese all the time. It sounded like you used the word "Chinese" to refer to 1 chinese ethnicity only. Or maybe you don't know the differences between "ethnicity" and "nationality"?
koukunut 1 year ago
And if I'm right about you using the word "Chinese" to refer to 1 chinese ethnicity, then you are as UNEDUCATED like every other average american who keep using the word chinese to refer to 1 chinese (national, race, kind), without knowing that china is a very diversified country just like the US. China has many ethnicities that originated from its land, and they are all Chinese. Or maybe you just don't understand my english.??? XD
koukunut 1 year ago
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Vangterlauj3 1 year ago
LOL. Like I said "Hmong are not Han. Han are not Hmong. Hmong are not Tibetan. Hmong are not Yao. Hmong are not Manchurian. But we're all Chinese." If you don't get this, then I can't help you anymore. But, if you do now, then you will realize why Tanga isnt Samoa, but they are Hawaiians.
koukunut 1 year ago
LOL U mean I cant help you anymore Hmong are hmong not chinese. and chinese is chinese not hmong. I feel bad because u really dont understand me at all
kevinhawj13 1 year ago
Do you even know what is a "Chinese"? If you think chinese= "just" the Han, then you really are confused. Wait! Do you even what is a Han? Or what is a Yao or Dong? If don't get the concept I'm trying to present here, then you are confused. I can't help you any further. Don't write back. I want you to think why China has 50+ ORIGINAL ethnicities and China called them all "CHINESE". When you finally understand, then write back and tell me you got it. Other than that, Im just going to ignore you.
koukunut 1 year ago
@koukunut
Ok will why won't you tell me what hmong is first since your all telling me that Hmong is chinese. I never even was talking about Chinese until u replied to me saying that Hmong are chinese. No Hmong are called Miao but they are not called chinese. Can't you see Hmong is spelled HMONG and chinese is spelled CHINESE So how is it the same. OMG so hillarious ahaha Come on dude tell me what Is hmong unless you cant tell me ahaha Cuzz i know what chinese is already
kevinhawj13 1 year ago
@kevinhawj13
I think I get what koukunut is trying to get across to you.....let's look at it this way.
You are Hmong. You live in America. That also makes you an American right? Just like if you are Hmong and live in France...you are French. or if you live in Australia...you are Australian.
I guess what koukunut is trying to tell you is....Hmong originate from China. That would make our origins Chinese.
marijkx 1 year ago
@marijkx
I already understand that but then i was telling him that we are not really chinese though. He keeps saying that we are and something about we are Han or something like that. No we are not Han, Han's are chinese we are Hmong and forever live the Hmong
kevinhawj13 1 year ago
@yuanxiaoyi
We didn't put ourselves in danger. We were in danger already because we didn't want to cooperate with the vietcong. This all happened before we decided to side with CIA to fight for our freedom and to help the American soldiers. Freedom? Of course freedom... Who don't want freedom? Hmong people wanted to be left alone. How could we when a war is approaching us? It's a sacrifice, but we have a lot of Hmong in the US now.
koukunut 2 years ago
the country did not let me live ok
kevinhawj13 2 years ago
Hmm, this lady singing the song is not bad. ill have to buy a music of her for my mother. ^^
KillerXify 2 years ago
we all know where we came from blah blah blah but remember the Chinese kill are kind and hide are history too we dont really know everything still.
even if we forget the pass and live on where still missing a piece of are chapters in are history. just like when ur reading a box or playing games and theres a ripped out page or a huge fuckin scratch where not complete intil everything is one. am i right?
gearbie 2 years ago
Why don't someone go and try to wipe out the entire Han Chinese population? They are a major problem in the world today! How would the Han Chinese like it if someone was to wipe out their entire population?
peteroneknuckle 2 years ago
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hcn9 2 years ago
so who is this "someone" that should wipe out the entire han chinese population which is 1.3 billion ppl and makes up 20% of the earth's population? superman? son guku? lol u stupid idiot
hcn9 2 years ago
this is so sad. from what i've heard, chinese wanted to kill off all the hmongs, kinda like hitler. they killed off 2 of the 21 clans. thats why there are only 19 hmong clans left (original last names, ex. lee, vang, xiong...) the cha clan was almost wiped out, but two cha general took leadership against chinese. One known weilded a spear, feared by the chinese. he then led the hmong to hid in the mountains. thats according to the stories my friend's grandpa told before he passed away.
vajruam 2 years ago 2
lol ur friends grandpa is full of shit
hcn9 2 years ago
cool story wonna hear more
gearbie 2 years ago
i know its interesting...but thats all i got so far...
i heard theres a book and movie out now
since last year
i saw it at the new years in fresno
lol
vajruam 2 years ago
@vajruam the hmong people were killed in Laos ,not in China,why do so many people mistaken?
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
@yuanxiaoyi well, ur mistaken because before the hmong people were killed in laos, they came from china, where they were forced to go to laos because of the mass killing that the chinese did, which forced them south to laos and thailand. there are still some hmong people in south china
vajruam 2 years ago
@vajruam I think it can't be called mass killing,we fought for thousands of years,it's a long war,also many han-chinese were killed.Of course, I don't like the war.
yuanxiaoyi 2 years ago
It's kind of sad when you think about it.
TousaoLOVER 2 years ago
arguing where we come from is old news very old news we are lucky that the world especially the countries that we live excepts us. look back and see how we accomplish to reunite not by war but by thinking of who we are and where we come from.
txivnengshaman 2 years ago
hmong are all hmong we must forget the past and think about the future. now all hmong know where we all come from with historic proof and origins. this is the greatest step for the hmong people. nomatter where you live we are all one do not for get where we all come from and who we are now we have a written history of our own in this world be proud of your self.
txivnengshaman 2 years ago
We MUST NOT forget about our past and histories of how we came to beings.
endlessgrl 2 years ago 2
hey. can somebody give me the first song? Thanks
YangChance 2 years ago
merry christmas mr lawrence
that's the name of the song
yeebthooj 2 years ago
I cannot imagine what our ancestors went through. They must have endured so much sorrows, pains and hardships while migrating from the yellow river home to southwest china and into southeast asia. This is why our people are so diverse in culture. We are distant physically and geographically, but we belong to the same lineage because of shared history, culture, languages, origin and traditions.