Dawkins performed like a scolded third grader next to Lennox--and he was awful, sweating, squirming, when Ben Stien had him on the ropes in 2 minutes. I admit I like Dawkins and he performs well when he is preaching to the choir with on Real Time, but when he is confronted with a person with Knowledge & skill he falls very short. Dawkins is great in a monolog--but not very impressive when challanged.
One promise that Jesus made to his disciples: "When they deliver you up to the magistrates to be tried, do not think about what you will speak, for i WILL GIVE YOU A DEFENSE THAT YOUR ADVERSARIES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND.
Dude, Dr. Craig, and John Lennox are both disciples being used by Christ to speak TRUTH! Dawkins is to chicken to engage in an argument (mind you, he is the worlds top 5 intellectual according to Prospect Magazine), with well prepared Theists, such as Dr. Craig, and evidently, John Lennox as well.
I'd like to thank donclesconforms for the links to the downloads of the mentioned Lennox vs. Dawkins debate. I had heard this debate before, it turns out, though I didn't attach Dawkins to it when I heard it (I barely knew who he was).
In it, we can constantly see Dawkins falling back. I'm not entirely sure why, but Dawkins keeps coming to his personal opinion of the Jesus narrative ("It's petty") rather than a more objective opinion on whether it's true or not.
@empreme yeh Lennox is certainly a capable and respectable Christian apologist, though Dr Craig is the standard that all other apologists are measured.So If Dawkins was taken to town by Lennox imagine how horrendously bad he would fair against Dr Craig
No one knows, lots of European countries have high proportions as well as Australia/New Zealand. America seems to be the last western country with a high religious proportion, one of the last few with capital punishment. The only countries really rive with CP and religion are eastern countries these days.
What do you define as atheism is a problem in questioning, high proportions of people say they don't belong to any religion but they may believe in a deity etc.
The Lennox debate? Really? Wow. I've seen snippets (by the by, is there a full video of it here or do I have to look commercially?), especially the bit where Lennox catches Dawkins equivocating faith ("Do you have faith in your wife?", etc).
Now, I've seen Lennox speak and he's well spoken and very laid back in his speach, a slow pace to nearly everything he says. He has also used powerful arguements, both intellectually and emotionally. I can see him striking the fear of God in someone.
@AMWOODco Yep the whole thing is on youtube. Lennox picks Dawkins apart on the science. Showing that Dawkins is not just ignorant of philosophy, but also ignorant of science.
I thought John Lennox had something to do with it. The hype over Dawkins is not with me, personally, i'd like to see William Lane Craig debate Stephen Hawking. Richard Dawkins is more attitude problem than anything else it seems to me.
You can't refute atheism by the failure of it's main apologist, however, Dawkins' incapability is truly relevant in showing that there's something fishy with atheism.
I think the word would be BANKRUPCY, this is, when the financial advisors won't even show their faces.
"Dr" Dawkins is in a tough spot. Debate and be exposed as having no substance or refuse and lose credibility.
So far he seems to be hoping it all just goes away. I think he also knows that Dr. Craig is mostly well known to only those who follow the arguments intently, and "Dr" Dawkins can't risk the obvious good publicity for theism when he is trounced. If the masses hear WLC's name too much they just might consider his arguments, can't have that.
I could debate Dawkins and point out how he needs therapy. e.e This is a guy that believes his opinion over any references or actual evidence. If he claims their is no God then he is claiming omniscience. If he says "You can't disprove a negative", throw that omniscient argument at them. Then tell them they are actually operating on more faith that theists because it doesn't take absolute knowledge to believe something. Atheism is just stupid. It is an emotionally driven opinion. Atheism Fails!
I saw a video where Dawkins was asked who the best president was and he said Obama because he was so intellectually superior and such a good speaker. LOL That right there shows how gullible and simple he is. But, let's give him some credit. Maybe it was recorded when Obama had just began the office and hadn't actually done anything yet. But, even I, who only has a simple BAS degree, could see through his political flatteries and lies. He can't even make a speech without a teleprompter!
@Challagar What about somebody like Teddy Roosevelt? A true intellectual who would read philosophy every night and in his presidency resolved many international conflicts?
Quite shallow isnt it that atheists like Dawkins championed the use of debates in the quest for truth only when they thought they could win it? Before Craig's name popped up into the atheist camp close to all atheists believed debates were at least a very good indicator of which side was right.
I think it's both facts mixed together. 1.Lennox destroyed him and 2.He knows Craig is a smart guy that would also destroy him. The fact that he hasn't come up with any response to Craig's refutal's of The God Delusion is an indicator of point 2.
@signofthehammer Good point. I think Craig was being modest (as he always is) when he said that the fact that Dawkins won't debate him has nothing to do with him per se. C'mon, Dr. Craig, you know Dawkins is scared of you!
@Birdieupon Yeah, I liked it too. It was like John Lennox was saying "Who, me?" I wonder if Craig is a bit envious that Lennox had the opportunity to debate Dawkins and not him. I really enjoyed Lennox's debates with Dawkins. Lennox utterly destroyed Dawkins' pitiful arguments.
Something tells me (through Craig's testimony here) that Richard Dawkins tried his very best to defeat John Lennox in their debates but knew he failed over and over again. And so coming to the realization that he's just not fast on his intellectual feet, Dawkins decided to ditch a debate with Craig.
@Birdieupon indeed. Have you read his lastest offering, "The Greatest Show on Earth,"? His worst book so far; off topic most of the time and complete drivel from beginning to end!
Dawkins performed like a scolded third grader next to Lennox--and he was awful, sweating, squirming, when Ben Stien had him on the ropes in 2 minutes. I admit I like Dawkins and he performs well when he is preaching to the choir with on Real Time, but when he is confronted with a person with Knowledge & skill he falls very short. Dawkins is great in a monolog--but not very impressive when challanged.
pulp7theman 1 week ago
I would watch this debate,..........it would be excellent.
AutoBahnForever 3 weeks ago
Dawkins fears Craig. John Lennox whooped him and now knows he shouldn't debate intelligent Christians.
Jehstfan 3 months ago
One promise that Jesus made to his disciples: "When they deliver you up to the magistrates to be tried, do not think about what you will speak, for i WILL GIVE YOU A DEFENSE THAT YOUR ADVERSARIES WILL NOT BE ABLE TO WITHSTAND.
songwriter4artists 4 months ago
Check out what Dawkins has to say at 4:55 of the following video, what a hypocrite.
youtube.com/watch?v=7ChUbiynhf0
Galmozzi99 5 months ago
Dawkin's friend made an awful performance as well. His name is Floyd Gayweather.
mavrickiii 5 months ago 5
@mavrickiii LOL!
drcraigvideos 5 months ago
Dude, Dr. Craig, and John Lennox are both disciples being used by Christ to speak TRUTH! Dawkins is to chicken to engage in an argument (mind you, he is the worlds top 5 intellectual according to Prospect Magazine), with well prepared Theists, such as Dr. Craig, and evidently, John Lennox as well.
puertoricosf 5 months ago
I'd like to thank donclesconforms for the links to the downloads of the mentioned Lennox vs. Dawkins debate. I had heard this debate before, it turns out, though I didn't attach Dawkins to it when I heard it (I barely knew who he was).
In it, we can constantly see Dawkins falling back. I'm not entirely sure why, but Dawkins keeps coming to his personal opinion of the Jesus narrative ("It's petty") rather than a more objective opinion on whether it's true or not.
AMWOODco 5 months ago
owned^______________^
graceteam 5 months ago
Craig is much more aggressive than Lennox. The Lennox debate was awful for Dawkins. I can't imagine how bad he would fair against Craig.
empreme 5 months ago
@empreme yeh Lennox is certainly a capable and respectable Christian apologist, though Dr Craig is the standard that all other apologists are measured.So If Dawkins was taken to town by Lennox imagine how horrendously bad he would fair against Dr Craig
jmanexpress 5 months ago
Dawkins...me thinks he is like a weasel.
Galmozzi99 5 months ago
John Lennox is awesome. I didn't realize he had debated Dawkins.
BoethianAcolyte 5 months ago
@BoethianAcolyte Twice, and gave him a good kicking too!
Ohyewildthong 5 months ago
How many other Atheists won't debate Dr Craig?
TheFaithHunter 5 months ago
Does anyone know the % of atheist in the world today?
Freedomremoved 5 months ago
@Freedomremoved
No one knows, lots of European countries have high proportions as well as Australia/New Zealand. America seems to be the last western country with a high religious proportion, one of the last few with capital punishment. The only countries really rive with CP and religion are eastern countries these days.
What do you define as atheism is a problem in questioning, high proportions of people say they don't belong to any religion but they may believe in a deity etc.
motorcycliscian 5 months ago
i think Dawkins humiliating experience with Lennox confused him to denounce his atheism religion.
ikawpipa 5 months ago
simple.... Dawkins is afraid of losing! He knows he will against Dr Craig
gerinja 5 months ago
The Lennox debate? Really? Wow. I've seen snippets (by the by, is there a full video of it here or do I have to look commercially?), especially the bit where Lennox catches Dawkins equivocating faith ("Do you have faith in your wife?", etc).
Now, I've seen Lennox speak and he's well spoken and very laid back in his speach, a slow pace to nearly everything he says. He has also used powerful arguements, both intellectually and emotionally. I can see him striking the fear of God in someone.
AMWOODco 5 months ago 4
@AMWOODco Yep the whole thing is on youtube. Lennox picks Dawkins apart on the science. Showing that Dawkins is not just ignorant of philosophy, but also ignorant of science.
Ohyewildthong 5 months ago
It's kind of sad watching Daekins lose to Lennox in such humiliating fashion, at least put up some good arguments. LOL
800mEric 5 months ago
Dawkins fail
HaShim383 5 months ago
I guess we'll never know who the person is who is in a position to know or how that person knows and what they based that knowledge on.
philochristos 5 months ago
I thought John Lennox had something to do with it. The hype over Dawkins is not with me, personally, i'd like to see William Lane Craig debate Stephen Hawking. Richard Dawkins is more attitude problem than anything else it seems to me.
starfannumberone 5 months ago
You can't refute atheism by the failure of it's main apologist, however, Dawkins' incapability is truly relevant in showing that there's something fishy with atheism.
I think the word would be BANKRUPCY, this is, when the financial advisors won't even show their faces.
IloveYOUviruses 5 months ago 3
"Dr" Dawkins is in a tough spot. Debate and be exposed as having no substance or refuse and lose credibility.
So far he seems to be hoping it all just goes away. I think he also knows that Dr. Craig is mostly well known to only those who follow the arguments intently, and "Dr" Dawkins can't risk the obvious good publicity for theism when he is trounced. If the masses hear WLC's name too much they just might consider his arguments, can't have that.
Galmozzi99 5 months ago 2
Jesus Christ is the way to Heaven!
heisthealmighty 5 months ago 11
I could debate Dawkins and point out how he needs therapy. e.e This is a guy that believes his opinion over any references or actual evidence. If he claims their is no God then he is claiming omniscience. If he says "You can't disprove a negative", throw that omniscient argument at them. Then tell them they are actually operating on more faith that theists because it doesn't take absolute knowledge to believe something. Atheism is just stupid. It is an emotionally driven opinion. Atheism Fails!
TheStigmadeign 5 months ago
Dawkins is sccuurrrrreeeddd!!!! lol
simplythebest444 5 months ago
People like Dawkins usually want monologues and big platforms to spew their crap, instead of dialogues where they can get challenged.
Pursuitofwisdom 5 months ago 4
"Took him to the woodshed", LOL!
Ohyewildthong 5 months ago
I saw a video where Dawkins was asked who the best president was and he said Obama because he was so intellectually superior and such a good speaker. LOL That right there shows how gullible and simple he is. But, let's give him some credit. Maybe it was recorded when Obama had just began the office and hadn't actually done anything yet. But, even I, who only has a simple BAS degree, could see through his political flatteries and lies. He can't even make a speech without a teleprompter!
Challagar 5 months ago 9
@Challagar Dawkins thought Obama was the best president? Yikes.
drcraigvideos 5 months ago 7
@drcraigvideos Oh, wait, I misspoke. He was asked what world leader he liked most, not just president.
watch?v=HQUyWhU1_cE
Challagar 5 months ago
@drcraigvideos That must have just been the memes talking. Nobody actually really thinks that. Do they?
GospelHouseKat 5 months ago
@Challagar Wow that's good to know! thanks!
axe414 5 months ago
@Challagar What about somebody like Teddy Roosevelt? A true intellectual who would read philosophy every night and in his presidency resolved many international conflicts?
kubrox91 2 months ago
WLC will scramble ur eggs!
supersonicfaceplant 5 months ago
nah WLC, he wont debate you cuzz ur RIGHT and he's WRONG!
Bad argument is bad...
( LMAO took him to the Woodshed! )
supersonicfaceplant 5 months ago
Quite shallow isnt it that atheists like Dawkins championed the use of debates in the quest for truth only when they thought they could win it? Before Craig's name popped up into the atheist camp close to all atheists believed debates were at least a very good indicator of which side was right.
Daxcheese 5 months ago 2
How long will it take for atheists to realize their emperor has no clothes?
ElasticGiraffe 5 months ago 63
@ElasticGiraffe well the atheist emperor is a self proclaimed african ape
Falcondick69 4 months ago
I think it's both facts mixed together. 1.Lennox destroyed him and 2.He knows Craig is a smart guy that would also destroy him. The fact that he hasn't come up with any response to Craig's refutal's of The God Delusion is an indicator of point 2.
signofthehammer 5 months ago 28
@signofthehammer Good point. I think Craig was being modest (as he always is) when he said that the fact that Dawkins won't debate him has nothing to do with him per se. C'mon, Dr. Craig, you know Dawkins is scared of you!
drcraigvideos 5 months ago 14
HAHAHA!!!! LOVE THE LAST SHOT!
Birdieupon 5 months ago 8
@Birdieupon Yeah, I liked it too. It was like John Lennox was saying "Who, me?" I wonder if Craig is a bit envious that Lennox had the opportunity to debate Dawkins and not him. I really enjoyed Lennox's debates with Dawkins. Lennox utterly destroyed Dawkins' pitiful arguments.
drcraigvideos 5 months ago
Something tells me (through Craig's testimony here) that Richard Dawkins tried his very best to defeat John Lennox in their debates but knew he failed over and over again. And so coming to the realization that he's just not fast on his intellectual feet, Dawkins decided to ditch a debate with Craig.
drcraigvideos 5 months ago
@drcraigvideos
He's not even intellectual in his slow writing either! ;-)
Birdieupon 5 months ago
@Birdieupon indeed. Have you read his lastest offering, "The Greatest Show on Earth,"? His worst book so far; off topic most of the time and complete drivel from beginning to end!
allan3141 5 months ago