Rare 8mm Footage of Subingsubing Kali Demo in hawaii

[elgaro1000]

My Granpa in my mother side is Subingsubing Emilio from Cebu

[monroesubingsubing]

Can someone tell me who has this video and would it be possible to get a copy. I am his granddaughter and I too am in the arts.

[pagakpak]

this is awesome, i haven't seen this kind on stance and foot work. the flow is so fluid and very lethal. i notice he use a long stick, when he fights on single hand, it is like he is using a real blade. more on slicing and blocking than swinging it. "madamo gd nga salamat" for the post.

[stickman33]

I don't know the history of his style, bu the term moro-moro was used for a kind of morality play popular in the Visayas during Spanish occupation, which frequently featured battles of good (usually Christian) vs. bad (often depicted as Moros, hence the name of the plays). Regarding the footwork, Sonny Umpad used a lot of similar low stances, and there are some similarities in the doblecada as well. I believe Sonny met Subingsubing, and he too used the term moro-moro for the footwork.

[Aldatsky]

He's not Moro. He's Cebuan. I come from the Southern Philippines and practice the art. This is not difinitely Moro. Moros have difinitely different way of using their blades from the Visayans. I saw a very much identical style used by a man of Ilongo (Ilo-ilo, Central Visayas) heritage from South Central Mindanao and his reason for such a kind of stance is that you are giving your enemy only half of a target and you can spring at him from a kneeling position.

[amci06042]

It must be corrected that the person here is not a moro. Moro is a term used for muslim warriors from the south of the Philippines. Thanks

[defondo]

GM Subingsubing was the grandfather of one of my teachers, Tanya Subingsubing/Lucaylucay during most of the 1980's. The setting of the film, as told to me by the late Batikan Raymond Tobaosa, another teacher, was a charcoal factory in Hawaii where GM worked. Although GM was Cebuano/Visayan, his style was Moro-Moro. What you see in the film is an example of the "Fly" or "Wrong Way" style derived from the southern Philippines. GM was reputed to have survived mass combat with Moro warriors.

[anaddi15]

@defondo Tanya is my Aunt

[saboy20]

Awesome thanks for sharing...

[rsaturnoserrada]

This was played for me many years ago at someones house. I loved it then and love it still. I did not get a chance to meet this man...and i twas my loss. The footwork is very interesting. The funny thing is...Manong Cabales would start this footwork to a degree when really pushed hard. It was hard to push Manong Cabales...but it could be done. There must be some interesting history to the footwork?

[fcokeefe69]

He taught the Moro style of Escrima, review your.

[necessitto]

telesforo subingsubing was cebuano, not moro. review your FMA history, dude.

[Astreo8]

Buenisimo!!

[punongbayan4492]

mahirap ipaliwanag ang gusto ko sabihin, basta napakahusay ng mataw-guro na yan!

[Jinisinsane]

footwork is different from the new gen arnis,why is that?

[fightingmink]

@Jinisinsane hybridization.. if that's a word. combining other works with yours. the art grows...

[pariskoredas]

Marvelous!!!

[okami6]

this grandmaster and the great John Lacoste , there movements so graceful perhaps they could have known of each other ?

[monroesubingsubing]

@okami6 Yes, I am GM Subingsubing's granddaughter and I had the pleasure of training with GM LaCoste and he knew of my grandfather. He told me my grandfather was know as the "fly" and that he fought many deadly battles against the moros.

[KakkiLakki]

Thanks for posting this!

[polarc08]

Darn! He looks really old but he moves like a 20 yr old! Cool! A real master!

[chapjai]

Is there still familiy  members keeping the art alive?

[monroesubingsubing]

@chapjai I am a Guro and a descendant of GM Subingsubing but most of my knowledge of the arts came from other sources.

[Auhana50]

Love the way HE moves effortless dance smooth as silk

[chodykumbra]

Your family has a very unique and impressive style of kali!

This guy was obviously a master

[Darkelfwizard]

tha's the real deal...amazing display of skill...i am absolutely speechless...i can't wait to start learning FMA.

[iSTANDMA]

kadondon - thanks for the info. I believe everyone familiar with martial arts knows that kali is filipino art.

[kadondon]

this guy is a filipino, a world war veteran who resides in hawai after the war... kali is a filipino martial arts.

[ritzscar]

incredibly graceful moves. I bow to the master!!

[tangmaa]

The person in this video is from the old country and is well trained and skilled in his arte. Also, he must be from an area in Hawaii called Kalihi. That is where many of these fighters were known to reside.

[bergencarrier]

Wow, it goes to show yea that elders in FMA are serious compared to us students of today! Mainly new age fma students train with pads, as suppose to elder fma artists trained 6 to 9 hours a day with no pads with real blades, rattans with no masks, cock protectors and forearm protectors

[blurfist]

This dude is awesome.

[808styx]

Classic....Awesome.

[keone314]

More please! This man moves so pretty...so...so...pretty! His style Sinayoup Kali does anyone still teach it? He keeps one stick(or blade) vertically across his chest defensively instead of at his hip. Does anyone else notice that. Sonny Umpad did the same.

[drklight2000]

Sounds like you know something about what the person in the video is doing. What is the advantage of having the stick vertical at the chest instead of the hip.

[PitchAmis]

breathtaken footage!!

[bfowler7]

very nice to watch the real deal with So many posers these days.

[jedoza]

klasik lupit!

[loyhorn]

That is my great grandfather too. anaddi15 is my cousin. We only met him once when we were kids in Hawaii. This is awesome footage. Where did you get this? Thanks for posting.

[anaddi15]

That's my great grandfather..... Really nice to see thanks for posting

[vainwolf78]

hey, this is Fox, Chris' friend...i had to see this man in action...would have LOVED to meet him!

[anaddi15]

You should see my Aunt... she's good too! :D

[iSTANDMA]

good luck. I think the title says it all. rare 8mm. seems that this film has been taken when our parents were still kids. thank you.

[akjunkie]

Thanks for sharing..Great video.

[keone314]

He moves like John Lacoste. He moves slow then as if he flicks a light switch he turns it on!!!! Nice video.

[drklight2000]

very cool footage!

[thelordoflemons]

Thanks, great footage. Subingsubing was not a Moro by the way, he was from Balamban in Cebu.

[FAKLocalMusic]

Awesome footage. Indeed he wasn't Moro but Visayan -maybe it should be corrected - Master Subingsubing's style is "Moro Moro."

[Gatorrock786]

awesome.

[aalaheeeh]

excellent...a treasure!!!