In my opnion i feel we need a ride that will spark sixflags fiesta tx or make it a little bit more rollercoaster atmosphere.maybe something like the titan at sixflags over texas or give the rattler its original drop back...
I went to FT 2 weeks ago, and it was EPIC!!!!!!!!! That topper track on the 2nd hill going up the 3rd was AWESOMELY SMOOTH!!!!!!!!!! and I noticed they completely restored the 2nd train and repainted it blue! :)
I was 11 when they first opened Fiesta Texas. My dad forced me to get on the Rattler, it was my first rollercoaster ride. I'm glad my dad made me get on, now i can't stop ridding. Now its time to make my 9 year old son get on HO HO HA HA!!!
if they remodeled the rattler like the giant i would stop going they cant keep killing wooden coaster because of all the pussies that dont wanna ride them. if they are to rough for you dont get on them simple as that let the people who enjoy the wooden coasters for what they are have their fun.
@thebeast6671 Have you rode the Giant? It's awesome! But that's true. They should make one of those seprate and keep the rattler the same would be better wooden ride for wimps wooden ride for tuff people.
Thank you so much! I worked at the park during its final season in its original incarnation and first as a Six Flags. The park was once a real little gem.
Just got off 'The Rattler and what a rush...Still great even now. I'll be riding this even waaaay after they take my driving license because I'm too old to drive. lol!
Good News SFFT fans! Rattler is gonna get remodeled at the end of 2011 or begging of 2012! I got a email from Six Flags saying:We do not have plans for rattler now but you never know maybe sometime soon. :) Excatley so yea and plus behind Poltergist there is some new supports or something. NEW COASTER OR RIDE FOR 2011!
@xXthewigglerXx No were getting a new show too. And acutally it has been said rattler is gonna be fixed towards the end of this season at the Rattler Bend.
if its ture that there going to return this rollercoaster. They better use the track type on El Toro not the crap there putting on the Texas Giant, which no longer makes it a wooden rollercoaster!!!! Sad day when the Giant lost that status!!!!
@cobraglenn > I am on the fence about The Giant's reprofile. I am keeping an open outlook though. I mean, Six Flags could have just decided to tear it down and replace it. I got to enjoy the original Giant 100's of times, so will forever be a fan. Regardless, I want to ride the new one.
The cars had no head support. And with those speeds going through the track, Their heads definitely will be snapping back. I believe they did add a head rest soon after, I can't remember. But having a better designed car might have saved the coaster. Plus if people would understand the damn warning signs before getting on, that too might have stopped the whining.
@austinhh13 Yea it might next year we are getting a new coaster but it is called the dark knight it might be joker cause we are supposed to get him back too!
the 1st time i went to fiesta texas was like in 2006 or something, so i don't think the rattler had it's original drop then. also, i was really young and too scared 2 go on it anyway. but i might go there soon and now that i'm older, i'll ride it but now i wish i could see wat the original was like! :-)
I work there its true jokers revenge will come back its going to have changes to it. It will be put behind frisbee next to tony hawk there's also talk scooby is going to be shut and dismantled and rattler will be reworked to be like it was in this video only safer
@groovesatx ..will it be the same jokers revenge we sent to N.O. and got flooded?..i saw pics of it and its pretty trashed..of course Fiesta Texas did get Goliath from NO after the flood as well...hmmm
UPDATE rattler --the rattler from the 90s is returning without the pain the crew that's currently transforming tx giant is coming to SA to redesign rattler john pierce the designer for the coaster is coming up with new designs and the jokers revenge is coming back to SFFT!
I worked at fiesta tx and there's talk on the 90s era rattler coming back john pierce the designer is drawing new plans for this ride so more butchering to come but unlike tx giant the rattler will stay a wood costom coaster only nbetter
And jokers revenge may come home to fiesta tx soon
theres talk about bringing back the first drop "Im told that there is a definite plan to return The Rattler to its former glory, restoring the rides first drop to its full and intended height as well as other improvements throughout. More when we find out. ..... the reborn Texas Giant rocks as hard as we think it will when it reopens in 2011 look for the construction crews to start working their way South about 5 hours, as The Rattler is expected to be fixed next."
i was openin year and i was able to get on the rattle in 92' @ the age of 12 and loved it!!.. i had wiplash for a week but dang it was great i gone evry year since then. i now dance the chicken dance on it! make s the ride alot more fun!
the rattler is the tallest ride in the park at 172 ft the super man is 2 ft shorted.....and also rattler was the tallest wooden rollercoaster until son of beast
It has elements the Giant never dreamed of: Airtime and terrain.
Giant is dull, with the exception of the end run. If you get off on being punched in the kidneys, then it's great. Otherwise, it's dull. Too many trim brakes.
they remodled the ride because people where whining that it was too shaky and the drops where too high. pussys. the ride might have been more fun when it was more dangerous.
No. It was because people we're breaking their necks on it. I know the lawyer of the person that sued six flags when they broke their neck, which led to the re-profile.
itz suppose 2 b like that and the first day it opened my whole family went there and the rattler is slower then it use 2 b itz suppose 2 75milez now itz 60 or 65milez and i rode it 2 timez yesterday.
They reduced it because a boy and his father got on the ride at the time when it was 166 feet drop and the man fell out of the ride and died so shortly after they reduced it down to 124 used to be the highest in the world at one point.. oh well..
please can some one give me history on this ride like wat did they redue on the ride like the drop and stuuf like when it opened and if its fun please i want to know[the ride i mean is the rattler
Exactly, i say they should've left it. Even with just the trains they have now it wouldn't hurt as much and maybe people would stop being babies and whining.
So that's what rattler use to look like. My mom said she got on it a lot then when she was younger, but that it was a little too intense at times. Oh well, still the only roller coaster here that I won't get on regardless of how the drop is now
The original first drop of The Rattler was 61 degrees. I rode it in 1993 and I still remember the back seat trying to buck you out of it. They reprofiled after the 2nd season because the pull-out at the bottom of the drop was too intense and causing injuries. The drop had a great pop about half-way down it that you can sort of see in the video.
i loved the old fiesta texas it was not that crowded, so there was not that long of a wait on rides. Since six flags took over they added the water park and junk. Total ruined the place in my opinion. Is the pear apple fair still around ? Was a great putput/arcade place.
no...pear apple has been gone for about i would say er um...eight to ten years already...i'm not from the San Antonio Area, but yeah, wen i would go up for vacations, Pear Apple was my first place to go to...
Man since six flags took over the whole park is just NASTY with trash all over the place, not enough employees for the resturants,the only few lockers they have their r in the front and the water park,lousy parking area eentrance and exits,VERY VERY RUDE STAFF and the worst of it is all the rides tend to break down at the same time... People I don't recommend this park at all.. too much money for a crappy place at least Sea World has better management over there!
I bet it used to be incredably fun. Now it breaks your back. My advice Don't ride when my friend and I went on the thing holding us down came up we held on for dear life. But if you do ride lean forward.
The thing that stinks is that today with millennium flyer trains, rattler could have been a lot smother to day, and the wouldn't have had to change the drop.
In my opnion i feel we need a ride that will spark sixflags fiesta tx or make it a little bit more rollercoaster atmosphere.maybe something like the titan at sixflags over texas or give the rattler its original drop back...
track1star5trel 2 months ago 2
ive been there 5 times i think its AWESOMEE :D
stephanievarela1996 4 months ago
Breaking news! Fiesta Texas announced on Facebook were getting a shycreamer. Check it out on the sixflags website
CattleCreekRailRoad 4 months ago
it had the Rattler-wolaleg-and guleywasher cool
mrtracto2 5 months ago
How many rides were open when it first opened?
disneyfreakkid 6 months ago
Six Flags parks are for adrenaline junkies, Disney parks are for people who like bumpy car rides.
DarthZorgon 6 months ago
I went to FT 2 weeks ago, and it was EPIC!!!!!!!!! That topper track on the 2nd hill going up the 3rd was AWESOMELY SMOOTH!!!!!!!!!! and I noticed they completely restored the 2nd train and repainted it blue! :)
CattleCreekRailRoad 6 months ago
I was 11 when they first opened Fiesta Texas. My dad forced me to get on the Rattler, it was my first rollercoaster ride. I'm glad my dad made me get on, now i can't stop ridding. Now its time to make my 9 year old son get on HO HO HA HA!!!
bftello1980 7 months ago
if they remodeled the rattler like the giant i would stop going they cant keep killing wooden coaster because of all the pussies that dont wanna ride them. if they are to rough for you dont get on them simple as that let the people who enjoy the wooden coasters for what they are have their fun.
thebeast6671 7 months ago
@thebeast6671 Have you rode the Giant? It's awesome! But that's true. They should make one of those seprate and keep the rattler the same would be better wooden ride for wimps wooden ride for tuff people.
Coasternator 7 months ago
Thank you so much! I worked at the park during its final season in its original incarnation and first as a Six Flags. The park was once a real little gem.
ron10036 8 months ago
Just got off 'The Rattler and what a rush...Still great even now. I'll be riding this even waaaay after they take my driving license because I'm too old to drive. lol!
spacewalker1551 9 months ago
i'm going to fiesta texas this weekend
121lpsfan 10 months ago
Good News SFFT fans! Rattler is gonna get remodeled at the end of 2011 or begging of 2012! I got a email from Six Flags saying:We do not have plans for rattler now but you never know maybe sometime soon. :) Excatley so yea and plus behind Poltergist there is some new supports or something. NEW COASTER OR RIDE FOR 2011!
Coasternator 1 year ago
@Coasternator probably the same treatment Texas Giant is getting
MrMachinegun21 11 months ago
@MrMachinegun21 Maybe...or something else.
Coasternator 11 months ago
@Coasternator nope no new rides just different names for some rides
xXthewigglerXx 11 months ago
@xXthewigglerXx No were getting a new show too. And acutally it has been said rattler is gonna be fixed towards the end of this season at the Rattler Bend.
Coasternator 11 months ago
@Coasternator It's about time. It's not what it used to be.
LaochWins 9 months ago
@LaochWins Yea
Coasternator 9 months ago
if its ture that there going to return this rollercoaster. They better use the track type on El Toro not the crap there putting on the Texas Giant, which no longer makes it a wooden rollercoaster!!!! Sad day when the Giant lost that status!!!!
cobraglenn 1 year ago
@cobraglenn > I am on the fence about The Giant's reprofile. I am keeping an open outlook though. I mean, Six Flags could have just decided to tear it down and replace it. I got to enjoy the original Giant 100's of times, so will forever be a fan. Regardless, I want to ride the new one.
rfgstl 1 year ago
The cars had no head support. And with those speeds going through the track, Their heads definitely will be snapping back. I believe they did add a head rest soon after, I can't remember. But having a better designed car might have saved the coaster. Plus if people would understand the damn warning signs before getting on, that too might have stopped the whining.
CutTonyRomoNow 1 year ago
He grew up so fast!(sniff)
Coasternator 1 year ago
@ groovesatx I heard a rumor that jokers revenge was taken down from sfno and that it was recently seen near sanantonio I hope this is true!!
austinhh13 1 year ago
i have a key chain from opening year. how rare is it?
austinhh132 1 year ago
Is the joker gettin a new theme?
austinhh13 1 year ago
@austinhh13 Yea it might next year we are getting a new coaster but it is called the dark knight it might be joker cause we are supposed to get him back too!
Coasternator 1 year ago
Rattler, doesn't hurt a bit. Don't get me wrong, its as bumpy as hell but it dosen't actually hurt.
VaudevilleFreak 1 year ago
@bzdeleon it would a some cosmetic changes on it. New paint refurbished trains all new station house. Just like they did to goliath.
groovesatx 1 year ago
the 1st time i went to fiesta texas was like in 2006 or something, so i don't think the rattler had it's original drop then. also, i was really young and too scared 2 go on it anyway. but i might go there soon and now that i'm older, i'll ride it but now i wish i could see wat the original was like! :-)
247webgirl 1 year ago
woah lol
realmadridhfg 1 year ago
I work there its true jokers revenge will come back its going to have changes to it. It will be put behind frisbee next to tony hawk there's also talk scooby is going to be shut and dismantled and rattler will be reworked to be like it was in this video only safer
groovesatx 1 year ago
@groovesatx ..will it be the same jokers revenge we sent to N.O. and got flooded?..i saw pics of it and its pretty trashed..of course Fiesta Texas did get Goliath from NO after the flood as well...hmmm
bzdeleon 1 year ago
@groovesatx How do you know this for sure?
VaudevilleFreak 1 year ago
UPDATE rattler --the rattler from the 90s is returning without the pain the crew that's currently transforming tx giant is coming to SA to redesign rattler john pierce the designer for the coaster is coming up with new designs and the jokers revenge is coming back to SFFT!
groovesatx 1 year ago
@groovesatx I call bullshit on the jokers revenge coming back to SFFT.
CutTonyRomoNow 1 year ago
I remember it tOo 4545sarah like seaworld is a whole different park now thab when I went back in 1989 too many changes
groovesatx 1 year ago
i remember fiesta tx i was a little girl and six flags and fiesta tx was a different them park.
4545sarah 1 year ago
I worked at fiesta tx and there's talk on the 90s era rattler coming back john pierce the designer is drawing new plans for this ride so more butchering to come but unlike tx giant the rattler will stay a wood costom coaster only nbetter
And jokers revenge may come home to fiesta tx soon
groovesatx 1 year ago
theres talk about bringing back the first drop "Im told that there is a definite plan to return The Rattler to its former glory, restoring the rides first drop to its full and intended height as well as other improvements throughout. More when we find out. ..... the reborn Texas Giant rocks as hard as we think it will when it reopens in 2011 look for the construction crews to start working their way South about 5 hours, as The Rattler is expected to be fixed next."
almjjo 1 year ago
supermuffinthats a fuckin lie....
Jac0304 1 year ago
THis ride looks so much more fun then than it does now... its not fair
TexasGiant96 1 year ago
This is Hercules' evil twin brother. I'm surprised this one is still standing.
mofodante89 1 year ago
they definitely need some different music here, try some driving rock.
EthanWhateley 2 years ago
i was openin year and i was able to get on the rattle in 92' @ the age of 12 and loved it!!.. i had wiplash for a week but dang it was great i gone evry year since then. i now dance the chicken dance on it! make s the ride alot more fun!
marisruben 2 years ago
this video gives me a real sense of nostalgia
BeavisButtheadFusion 2 years ago
RCAA made some of the world's best coasters. ;)
dandy97 2 years ago
that looks like fun right now it looks verry diffrent
TheSophia13 2 years ago
The song ish so sad D':
Nicoloees 2 years ago 2
Omg! Those poor old people getting on the Rattler!
SuperMillieChan 2 years ago 15
they must have no idea waht they were getting into!!
TSXboy26 2 years ago
@SuperMillieChan Your comment made me choke on water!!!
DarkH0riz0n 1 year ago
the rattler is the tallest ride in the park at 172 ft the super man is 2 ft shorted.....and also rattler was the tallest wooden rollercoaster until son of beast
Sprintrunner2190 2 years ago
@Sprintrunner2190 > It doesn't matter b/c El toro eats the Rattler for lunch!
rfgstl 1 year ago
Is it true that they r closing it?=(
mexicano1203 2 years ago
No, Not that i heard of. Fiesta isn't being closed...
VaudevilleFreak 2 years ago
Nore is the Rattler.
VaudevilleFreak 1 year ago
What Song is this?
VaudevilleFreak 2 years ago
the Rattlers first drop is not that big anymore. i wish it was but they rebuilt it and slowed it down alot.
Tjtjboy 2 years ago
i know damn my neck hurted soo bad
erin5612 2 years ago
i love the water park
usaamerica1 2 years ago
I love this ride! i just went this past weekend and i always get on it =D can't wait till i go again!
pinkblackwhite 2 years ago
i rode the rattler yesterday
DiscoWaffle 2 years ago
Accutllely they whinned of their backs hurting :/
Nicoloees 2 years ago
the first drop of the rattler was epic
shame the rest of it couldn't match up to the Texas Giant
b0b1919 2 years ago
Wasnt that in Astro world or somthin. All I know is the texas gian was aweosme
craazy99 2 years ago
It has elements the Giant never dreamed of: Airtime and terrain.
Giant is dull, with the exception of the end run. If you get off on being punched in the kidneys, then it's great. Otherwise, it's dull. Too many trim brakes.
johntvette 2 years ago
they remodled the ride because people where whining that it was too shaky and the drops where too high. pussys. the ride might have been more fun when it was more dangerous.
supermuffin5 2 years ago 26
they also remodeled it so the super man would have the biggest drop in the park
jrcobb1994 2 years ago
@supermuffin5
No. It was because people we're breaking their necks on it. I know the lawyer of the person that sued six flags when they broke their neck, which led to the re-profile.
stratocaster502 1 year ago
the rattler is a bad ride its all shaky and old and it jerks ur neck
mia4484 2 years ago
itz suppose 2 b like that and the first day it opened my whole family went there and the rattler is slower then it use 2 b itz suppose 2 75milez now itz 60 or 65milez and i rode it 2 timez yesterday.
xcodegeassgirlx 2 years ago
It changed so much.:O
i wish i was there.D:
IloveSasuke54 2 years ago
at 2:39 is that one of the spots where you can shaken the most on that ride?
RCHAVEZ1205 2 years ago
dat ride iz scary and it also injures ur neck so badly and it hurts just like
tatoorockzs said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gangstachic911 2 years ago
its a pussy ride 2 me
DiscoWaffle 2 years ago
dude. i rode it in 2006 and it is rough!! roughest ride ever!
but it is fun though!
UglyMuggFilms 2 years ago
it was a very rough ride it matched its name by rattling your brain !
awesome structure what a coaster
BEANDRR 2 years ago
that ride is dangerous. its very painful and the whole ride shakes roarisouly. i dont like it
udigginme24 2 years ago
haha i think i saw my mom! lol
bitchbynature1 2 years ago
History of the Rattler:
According to the Rattler's drop it was too high and the people riding got injured on they're neck.
TatooRockz 2 years ago
well when i got on i hurt my chin cuz i was in the first one nd i hit the pole where u hold on nd it hurt alot...i dnt lik it
luvgirl1516 2 years ago
They reduced it because a boy and his father got on the ride at the time when it was 166 feet drop and the man fell out of the ride and died so shortly after they reduced it down to 124 used to be the highest in the world at one point.. oh well..
AlbertInSanAntonio 2 years ago
It's stupidity, the guy probably managed to get free of his restraints.
DReifGalaxyM31 2 years ago
please can some one give me history on this ride like wat did they redue on the ride like the drop and stuuf like when it opened and if its fun please i want to know[the ride i mean is the rattler
popsnacks2 2 years ago
the made the drop shorter
wmaddentx 2 years ago
no they didnt
savdenram 2 years ago
yes they did they made it like 120 somethin feet, but the height is still the same
wmaddentx 2 years ago
yea they did...
it used to be really big
but some kid went into shock
because of the drop
so the minimized the drop
its shorter now
IsabellaGirl10111 2 years ago
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. A lady died of an anuerisym on Goliath, they didn't lower it's drop.
johntvette 2 years ago
It's interesting when you find that in 1992 besides the first drop being 166 feet (now 124 feet) that Morgan trains were used instead of PTC trains.
DReifGalaxyM31 2 years ago
Exactly, i say they should've left it. Even with just the trains they have now it wouldn't hurt as much and maybe people would stop being babies and whining.
VaudevilleFreak 1 year ago
was that the only roller coaster?
imrpowers 2 years ago
How long ago was this
iike100 2 years ago
1992
JIPSpit 2 years ago
wow! when my parents said that it had a bigger drop they were not lying.
ninjaturtle159 2 years ago
To many people were getting whiplash and themselfs hurt i was there when they were rebulding it....sad day....='{
qazx52 2 years ago
you know it was just fiesta texas then six flags took it
codythered95 2 years ago
i liked the other music better
codythered95 2 years ago
why did you take the other music out
codythered95 2 years ago
hey you changed the music
codythered95 2 years ago
what year did it open?
takanuvathegreat 2 years ago
I love this ride! The whole track sway is scary, but adds to the appeal of the ride.
rfgstl 2 years ago
the sign was totally different
bestatacting 3 years ago
Rattler was insane... although too rough... and now it's still super rough
AwesomeCoasters 3 years ago
That drop was insane...but they had to get rid of it because of people getting whiplash oh well still fun...10/10
Ninqazdo 3 years ago
So that's what rattler use to look like. My mom said she got on it a lot then when she was younger, but that it was a little too intense at times. Oh well, still the only roller coaster here that I won't get on regardless of how the drop is now
frylockkilla 3 years ago
how steep was the first drop of the rattler..in the video it looks very steep and why did they reprofiled it?
KarimHappel 3 years ago
The original first drop of The Rattler was 61 degrees. I rode it in 1993 and I still remember the back seat trying to buck you out of it. They reprofiled after the 2nd season because the pull-out at the bottom of the drop was too intense and causing injuries. The drop had a great pop about half-way down it that you can sort of see in the video.
corypa77 3 years ago
thank you. The drop was really amazing^^
KarimHappel 3 years ago
whats the name of the song? and man has it changed.
mattrg12 3 years ago
the first drop was alot bigger back then now its a small drop
hanes0092 3 years ago
aha the signs old school.
and the drop was wayy better before
they took it off
hardhitter5274 3 years ago
@ six flags, was originaly called fiesta texas or sixflags took over, and when did this place open//????????????????????????
danasfamily2 3 years ago
it opened march 1996
mattrg12 3 years ago
No it opened March 1992
VaudevilleFreak 1 year ago
it was originally owned by Gaylord Entertainment (the ones wif that own Grand Ole' Opry in Tennessee) but in 1996 Six Flags took over...
lxnthny 3 years ago
i loved the old fiesta texas it was not that crowded, so there was not that long of a wait on rides. Since six flags took over they added the water park and junk. Total ruined the place in my opinion. Is the pear apple fair still around ? Was a great putput/arcade place.
bigj70634 3 years ago
no...pear apple has been gone for about i would say er um...eight to ten years already...i'm not from the San Antonio Area, but yeah, wen i would go up for vacations, Pear Apple was my first place to go to...
lxnthnyv 3 years ago
Man since six flags took over the whole park is just NASTY with trash all over the place, not enough employees for the resturants,the only few lockers they have their r in the front and the water park,lousy parking area eentrance and exits,VERY VERY RUDE STAFF and the worst of it is all the rides tend to break down at the same time... People I don't recommend this park at all.. too much money for a crappy place at least Sea World has better management over there!
netta2630 3 years ago
whoa..the carts are now red..not blue on the rattler..things have really changed
ddbdg 3 years ago
god...NEVER ride the rattler in the very back...i got whip lash from it
ddbdg 3 years ago
I did. Haha it was fun to look back and see no one behind you.
beezie614 3 years ago
I bet it used to be incredably fun. Now it breaks your back. My advice Don't ride when my friend and I went on the thing holding us down came up we held on for dear life. But if you do ride lean forward.
camerons2 3 years ago
kwel it changed so much now
ILoveMiley102 3 years ago
wow before the rattler broke your back lol
ktm5800 3 years ago
The Rattler looked cooler back then i have a roller coaster book and it says that the rattler ran at 73 mph on the first drop now it go's 65mph.
Roger007Audioslave 3 years ago
Wow the park looks diffrent now. o.0
ilovBHH 3 years ago
why did they get rid of the drop now the drop is not that fun anymore.....-.-
qazx52 3 years ago
Sorry they were on the sixth row.
poolboy100089793 3 years ago
Oh Crap My mom and dad were on the front row of the rattler!!O O _
poolboy100089793 3 years ago
dang that park has changed so much!!!
BrandFLAK 3 years ago 2
thats were i live
wwemicro 3 years ago
fiesta texas was once owned by gaylord (opryland/grand 'ole opry) owners, right?
lxnthny 3 years ago
it should still be like that
even the carrages for the rattler has changed
shmellybum 3 years ago 2
Do you know who the artist of that song is?
PleasentDreams 3 years ago
B-52's
shanehuish 3 years ago
now i see why dad said he will never ride it again...compared to that, it looks boring the way it is now lol.
thatbandguy 3 years ago 2
lol my dad said the same shit too, he said his back was hurting him after he rode the Original Rattler
mendez03965 3 years ago
The thing that stinks is that today with millennium flyer trains, rattler could have been a lot smother to day, and the wouldn't have had to change the drop.
K1D1inc 3 years ago 2
the rattler was giving people whiplash dats y they changed it
chrgersrock21 3 years ago
This was awesome!
NorthEastCoasters 3 years ago
OMG the rattler waz better when it waz a bigger drop and i dont no why they changed it!!!
mattalyaj11 3 years ago
People were getting hurt that's why the changed it!
2stepinjoe94 3 years ago
OMG the rattler looks so awsome.
spong8 3 years ago
Rattler looks like it was a great ride before Six Flags "improved" it.
the3jake2 3 years ago