Let's see, your experience is what? You have what credentials to be so authoritative? Aren't you the kid that just got your 1st dog from a shelter? When did you become an expert?
@JockeyxDream if you need to move, and you want to keep your dog, i'm assuming you love it! So instead of using an invasive surgery use your time and patience. There are many ways to train your dog not bark in your absence! From putting a shock collar (on a low setting) for a few weeks/month, eventually just putting the collar on (turned off) might results in your dog being conditioned not to bark when he's got his 'shock collar' on. Habituating it to being alone, giving him chew toys etc.
If you consider the alternative to people like me who live in apartment who without this procedure would be forces to give up the dog its not so cruel. Some breeds such as shelties and dachshunds naturally bark and there is no behavioral issue behind it. Most trainers suggest bark collars which in my opinion is a much worse preventative than a week of being sore. For some of us its do this or get rid of the dog, and no one will want a barky dog, so it will wind up in a pound. Thats cruel.
Why get a sheltie or dachsund if you live in an apartment? That's irresponsible. Being a responsible animal owner means choosing the right breed before bringing him home.
What do you know about Shelties and Dachshunds? Have you owned one? These are two great breeds, great fun breeds with people. I really think it sounds like you don't even like dogs.
You presume to prescribe for other people in a situation you know nothing about. Do you really think it is right to outlaw solutions that other people use to save lives, just because you do not like them? Instead of callously taunting cripples, you should commiserate with them and admire their fortitude in making a tough decision and adjusting cheerfully to it! I just hope that someday you have a problem dog - or child -and find that other people have outlawed all the solutions!
You are completely missing the point! When a cancer victim has to have a leg, or breast, or nose cut off to save his life, dont you think hed rather look normal? But hed even more rather be alive! Well, this dog and his owner would of course rather he sounded normal, but even more theyd rather he be alive! You moral busybodies are so busy carping over petty issues of how the dog sounds when I know for a fact that this dog had gotten multiple anonymous death threats because of his barking!
I am not missing the point. A cancer victim might need to be operated on to save his life, a dog who barks has nothing wrong with him. If you can't handle a dog that barks, like a sheltie, don't get one. Knowing that they're a barky breed but still getting one, then cutting their vocal cords, is cruel. This procedure did not save his life. Someone else could have got him who wouldn't have cut his vocal cords. Some devocalized dogs die-do they deserve that? Devocalization is irresponsible.
@blgch24 I agree. I had a vasectomy, i wouldn't recommend that myself, but I decided after constant, years long arguments, tears, and threats based on complaints to the city that our dog absolutely needed to be debarked. There are also many other advantages that we have now that we've done this. and yes i love dogs, I think there are those out there that need to take a chill pill who complain when a dog barks. and i agree that it's risky. but all the factors add up, and i totally agree.
So Animalkid93, since you are a kid do you think you should be making decisions that are between a vet and an owner? Do you have opinions on human surgeries as well?
Having learned something about debarking, I have to say it is an invasive, painful surgery done soley for human convenience with no benefit to the animal. According to a number vets, It often results in lifelong respiratory and eating problems. I would much rather hear the natural bark of a healthy dog than the undifferentiated, wheezy, raspy sound made by the featured Sheltie as he attempted to bark.
I'm not sure what the point is here. I found the wheezy sound made by the Sheltie when he attempted to bark very hard to listen to. The wheeze was impossible to interpret so I didn't know whether he was having a good time or simply following instructions. The sense I got was the latter.
hope you burn in hell
cbr6864 8 months ago
That poor dog :( that noise is actually WORSE than barking.
happysaz133 1 year ago 2
fat ugly old slut hope u get debarked fu.. u
alerto007 1 year ago 2
If you move into an apartment from a house due to financial reasons, you shouldn't have to give up your dog as well.
JockeyxDream 2 years ago
Training Training Training... Socialization...Humane care...
animalkid93 2 years ago
Let's see, your experience is what? You have what credentials to be so authoritative? Aren't you the kid that just got your 1st dog from a shelter? When did you become an expert?
Lucille4412 2 years ago
@JockeyxDream if you need to move, and you want to keep your dog, i'm assuming you love it! So instead of using an invasive surgery use your time and patience. There are many ways to train your dog not bark in your absence! From putting a shock collar (on a low setting) for a few weeks/month, eventually just putting the collar on (turned off) might results in your dog being conditioned not to bark when he's got his 'shock collar' on. Habituating it to being alone, giving him chew toys etc.
BlowMinding 1 year ago
If you consider the alternative to people like me who live in apartment who without this procedure would be forces to give up the dog its not so cruel. Some breeds such as shelties and dachshunds naturally bark and there is no behavioral issue behind it. Most trainers suggest bark collars which in my opinion is a much worse preventative than a week of being sore. For some of us its do this or get rid of the dog, and no one will want a barky dog, so it will wind up in a pound. Thats cruel.
JockeyxDream 2 years ago
Why get a sheltie or dachsund if you live in an apartment? That's irresponsible. Being a responsible animal owner means choosing the right breed before bringing him home.
animalkid93 2 years ago
What do you know about Shelties and Dachshunds? Have you owned one? These are two great breeds, great fun breeds with people. I really think it sounds like you don't even like dogs.
Lucille4412 2 years ago
You presume to prescribe for other people in a situation you know nothing about. Do you really think it is right to outlaw solutions that other people use to save lives, just because you do not like them? Instead of callously taunting cripples, you should commiserate with them and admire their fortitude in making a tough decision and adjusting cheerfully to it! I just hope that someday you have a problem dog - or child -and find that other people have outlawed all the solutions!
blgch24 2 years ago
You are completely missing the point! When a cancer victim has to have a leg, or breast, or nose cut off to save his life, dont you think hed rather look normal? But hed even more rather be alive! Well, this dog and his owner would of course rather he sounded normal, but even more theyd rather he be alive! You moral busybodies are so busy carping over petty issues of how the dog sounds when I know for a fact that this dog had gotten multiple anonymous death threats because of his barking!
blgch24 2 years ago
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I am not missing the point. A cancer victim might need to be operated on to save his life, a dog who barks has nothing wrong with him. If you can't handle a dog that barks, like a sheltie, don't get one. Knowing that they're a barky breed but still getting one, then cutting their vocal cords, is cruel. This procedure did not save his life. Someone else could have got him who wouldn't have cut his vocal cords. Some devocalized dogs die-do they deserve that? Devocalization is irresponsible.
animalkid93 2 years ago
@blgch24 I agree. I had a vasectomy, i wouldn't recommend that myself, but I decided after constant, years long arguments, tears, and threats based on complaints to the city that our dog absolutely needed to be debarked. There are also many other advantages that we have now that we've done this. and yes i love dogs, I think there are those out there that need to take a chill pill who complain when a dog barks. and i agree that it's risky. but all the factors add up, and i totally agree.
buybrace 11 months ago
Debarking is an inhumane, cruel procedure that should ONLY be done for medical necessity. NOT for the convenience of the owner.
animalkid93 2 years ago 6
So Animalkid93, since you are a kid do you think you should be making decisions that are between a vet and an owner? Do you have opinions on human surgeries as well?
Lucille4412 2 years ago
Having learned something about debarking, I have to say it is an invasive, painful surgery done soley for human convenience with no benefit to the animal. According to a number vets, It often results in lifelong respiratory and eating problems. I would much rather hear the natural bark of a healthy dog than the undifferentiated, wheezy, raspy sound made by the featured Sheltie as he attempted to bark.
firstwolfgirl 2 years ago 10
I'm not sure what the point is here. I found the wheezy sound made by the Sheltie when he attempted to bark very hard to listen to. The wheeze was impossible to interpret so I didn't know whether he was having a good time or simply following instructions. The sense I got was the latter.
firstwolfgirl 2 years ago 3
it doesnt take a genious to realize the dogs having fun with his tail wagging and playful look on its face. not to mention he's playing with the toy
XA7XX7AX 2 years ago