I don't speak German,. but it looks from the beginning of this film that they were completely exaggerating up the size of the attacking force. The Dieppe raid was an utter farce at the expense of Canadian troops and heads should have rolled for it.
@dickran2142battle You said Germany could have defeated Britain 1 vs 1? However after the fall of France the British were left fighting alone on fronts in Europe + Africa. The Luftwaffe was the best in Europe, Also 3x the size of the RAF. Yet it was the British who humiliated the Axis during the Battle of Britain and kicked the Axis out of Africa,Mid-East and lead the liberation of Europe from Facism & Communism!
@dickran2142battle It was impossible for German or its Allies to attack Britain by land. However the British would have fought for every hill,house,field,street,garden,etc Churchill gave the order for NO-SURRENDER and the morale in Britain was great they were prepared to die and do whatever it took, Even the Women were told to fight they had weapons and would fight for every house,kitchen. The British are no push overs, Poland was weak and France gave up, Britain would never surrender.
@martynrobin121 .... Poland... Attacked by Both the SOVIET UNION and NAZI GERMANY. Read up on the Warsaw uprising, where civilians rose up in opposition against the Nazi occupation. We also have wild things like the famous French Resistance who assisted the allies during the Liberation of France.
@mrprodigy83 You are very funny, There was NO British Forces on the Channel Islands. When the Axis Forces arrived, There was no fighting. And the Occupation was mostly peace-full, The Axis were under strict orders be good or deal with the Hitler or the SS. It was impossible for the Axis to even attempt any invasion of Britain, The Axis had NOTHING to invade with, And every Britons was prepared to do their duty for Freedom & Democracy, From Man,Women,Child.
@martynrobin121 No forces, but British population, and they were calm as well as the German forces. No big deal. Yes, Operation Sealion was impossible at that time. Britain and its island..thats the only thing that is responsible Britain was not conquered. Not military strenght.
@mrprodigy83 What the hell are you talking about? Britain was the military superpower at that time. Operation Sea-Lion was impossible due to the fact the British had the worlds biggest & best Navy, Look at the state of Germany and its Allies navy? The Channel Islands were not occupied by British Forces or any other, Yet the luftwaffe bombed and the Axis Facist troops occupied. What could the Civilians do? Civilians who fought back were sent to Camps in mainland Europe.
@martynrobin121 The navy was the best, I agree, but Germanys strength was exceeding the British by far regarding army and airforce. Or do you think Britain at that time would have been able to fight a war like Germany did? Against the huge bolshevik empire in the east and the Americans in west? I tell you without the island it would have been conquered like france, there is no doubt about that except from idiotic patriots who often forget to think before they talk.
@mrprodigy83 You make out Germany fought alone! The British were never able to put their Armies on 1 Front, They had an Empire & 1/4 of the entire Planet to protect. The Brits could only send hand-full of divisions to certain fronts logistical nightmare. Germany & its Allies were able to attack front by front with everything they had. The RAF outnumbered crushed the Luftwaffe 2-1, Battle of Britain 1940.
Royal Navy best in the world. The main problem was the Army & logistics.
@martynrobin121 i dont think there were any Waffen-SS units in the channel islands, only Wehrmacht Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine and there was limited gestapo because there were mostly units of the Ordnungspolizei as a police force
Germany didnt lose the Battle of Britain, it simply didnt continue it.. and i think he meant that if an invasion would have occured, the Brits would flee for their lifes... 1vs1 with no island between the armies, you know?
@dickran2142battle Germany dedicated it's whole country to war, building up a huge army and airforce. The free world was not so warlike and the East was weak/divided.
The Soviet Union needed time to build up it's military to fight the Nazi's who had years of training and a vast stockpile of military supplies, same with Britain and the United States.
@TheShitCan What? You make out the Germans fought alone! However they were part of the Axis Powers- Germany,Italy,Romania,Bulgaria,Finland,Japan,etc,etc. nations from around the world.
I think the idea of the Dieppe Raid was to probe the German's Atlantic Wall that was closest to the British Isles at the expense of British soldiers and sailors' lives . So sad . Was it worth it ?
@gordieK The Canadian top brass volunteered for this mission. The Canadian forces had been in Britain for nearly 2 years without combat experience. The malority of British soldiers were in North Africa. The Canadian generals were keen to show what there men could do. It was not a conspiracy as you suggest.
@GerrettJihad You should have let Germany alone.. none forced you to conduct a raid on Dieppe. Canada appeared to be the lapdog of Britain.. without GB, Canada would not have suffered these losses at all.
A big part of the reasoning behind this raid was to keep the Nazis thinking that Calais was going to be the place where the Allies would eventually land instead of Normandy. The allies put a lot of effort into this deception, the result was that when the D-Day landings took place the bulk of the German military was sitting in the Calais area and wasn’t allowed to move until it was too late.
The plan called for an unimaginative frontal assault, without any heavy preliminary air bombardment. Under pressure from the Canadian government to ensure that Canadian troops saw some action, the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division was selected for the main force.
Je suis dieppois et c'est avec émotion que je regarde ces images.
Les pages les plus sombres de l'histoire de Dieppe, un véritable carnage pour les alliés, la préparation du débarquement de normandie le 6 juin 1944.
Il ne faudra jamais oublier cet événement tragique, cela fait partie de nôtre histoire, des milliers de soldats ont sacrifié leur vie dans cette attaque.
Un immense merci aux Alliés qui ont finalement, après de multiples tentatives et sacrifices, libéré la France.
As for being a "waste" or "unecessary". Even in 1942 it was still widely held that an Amphibious Assault must be aimed at capturing an existing sea-port to enable supply of the Bridgehead once established. Nobody believed that it was possible to supply a large force over open beaches. THAT is why the lessons were learned, admittedly at a high cost, and the Allies were able to assault 2 years later and avoid the same mistakes. See "Mulberry" & "PLUTO" in connection with D-Day.
I'm German and i can tell you this, one day Germany will become independent wether u like it or not, we will clear Europe from Gays/Muslims/Jews/Socialists
Those poor men were used as guinea pigs, Mountbatten knew that it would be a total failure even before the first wave landed. Dieppe was probably one of the most impractical places on the French coast to land and I think it was picked for exactly that reason.. The Germans were also forewarned to such an extent that it couldn't be an accident. The British have a long history of sending their troops on futile suicide missions.
@Cytacon: He did not know. Intelligence said that the German defenders in the immediate area were limited to a single Battalion and NOT a full Regiment of 3 Battalions. Operation Jubilee is a long list of mistakes and mis-judgements but the accusation of deliberate foolhardy intent is nonsense.
@flownet07 Why did you rejoice in the murder of Mountbatten? He wasn't the only one culpable for the waste of all those Brave Canadians. Harry Crerar - the top Canadian Officer of the war - not only supported the raid but insisted that the Canadian's take part and have a major role, without his support Mountbatten couldn't have put the operation into effect because CIGS - Alanbrooke - had already cancelled it after Montgomery formally objected to it on the grounds of a breach of security.
@11nytram11 a little ironic remark. The name is an Anglicisation of the German Battenberg, a small town in Hesse. The title of count of Battenberg, later prince of Battenberg, was granted to a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt in the mid 19th century. Mountbatten is the family name originally adopted by a branch of the Battenberg family due to rising anti-German sentiment among the British public during World War I
@ad220588 I fail to see where your point has relevance to either the clip or my statement. Mountbatten and the whole Royal Family changed their family names to seperate themselves from their German roots but that has nothing to do with the Dieppe Raid and the culpability of Mountbatten or anyone else in its failure.
What do you think the world would be like, if Hitler did succeed at everything? complete mayhem? The only reason he lost the war is because he got impatient and back stabbed Russia and then started a two front war, Hmmm I guess he was thinking straight considering thats how Germany lost WW1
@budthestud696969 Not really, Hitler was a ignorant idiot at the end of the war, tactically he send hundreds of thousands of elite fighters into their death, think of Stalingrad.. the continued production of heavy tanks instead of Fast fighter jets, etc etc. You think there is no reaction for the actions he commited. He sacrificed himself to ignorance and hate.
He was left to die in a ditch while being burned by his own troops, what a glorious end...
@md0206 Stalingrad was not at the end of the war you fool, it was in the middle. They thought they could invade Russia as quickly as they did with Poland, unfortunately this was a dream, and ended up in the nightmare with a Russian flag waving over the Reichstag.
@mrprodigy83 Stalingrad was the end of the war. Germany never recovered from the losses at Kursk, Stalingrad, and whatnot. The defeat of Nazi germany was mostly because of the fact Hitler depleted his main Army's to Stalingrad as a whole while not going around it.
@mrprodigy83 Stalingrad is considered to be the turning point in the war by most, so i'll refer to that aswell, Hitler sacrificed about 1 million people fighting for the Reich to die around that city alone, Russia could cope with such losses, Germany could not.
@md0206 So your statement proves that it was the middle of the war :-) The Russians as well as the Allied had terrible strategists, they only succeeded because of your mentionend menpower.. They sent in their men regardless of how many would fall. Iwo Jima, Omaha Beach, Market Garden are just 3 examples of miserably lead allied operations. I respect the Russians though, because they really suffered.
@rangergxi The whole eastern front? What a laugh.. it was the winter, and not operational strategies, that held up the war machine. But we Germans always didnt want a second front..as imagine all forces were combined at the western front? It would have been a different world now. And where are you from? Canada? Lol.. what great wars did your country ever fight? WW2? With, like 2 batallions or what? LOL.. well at least you purchase German tanks now..
@mrprodigy83 wow how ignorant you are look up vimy ridge goofball! You will learn all about CANADA that you need to. during WW2 Hitler din not deicrate the memorial as he knew what true strength was! LOOK IT UP SELF IMPOSED BADASS!
@TheMrfreedomrequired Canada is uninteresting when its about war. I know most of the nations that mattered and the commonwealth troops are, well, not interesting.. but I accept that you celebrate your troops.
@rangergxi You forgot your question matk at the end! I think you are asking a question? What about them they were all great battles by great soldiers....what do you want to know about them?
@mrprodigy83 Judging the greatness of a nation by it's wars? What about economic prosperity, the quality of lives for it's citizens and the freedoms of the citizens enjoy?
Germany is an excellent nation in all those regards but facism does not bring prosperity. It is simply slavery of the masses and endless conflict. Canada tries to be Liberal with it's wars only participating in peace actions, kind of like modern Germany
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Germany would have destroyed the western front * CONT
@rangergxi Well, you talk about fascism doesnt bring prosperity, but what about democracies? In face of the biggest economic crisis the world has ever seen, its a kind of hard thing to defend democracy I think. Germany had an Emperor until 1918, afterwards we already HAD a democracy, the Weimar Republic, but it failed because of too much talking and too few acting. National Socialism had other aims than "slaving its people". It was aggressive, of course, but lead to prosperity.
@rangergxi Democracy could work out,if the politicians really were up for the task.I mean,here inside Germanies parties,some people are NOT allowed to talk the truth! Some topics are to be kept quiet, like immigration problems,eg high crime rates from muslim minorities for instance.Democracies are lead by ignorant idiots, no troubelshooters. If I wasnt so much disappointed by democracy,I might would not think about fascism in a positive way. Things do not improve - its the oppposite!
@rangergxi It lead to prosperity because the newly deployed governors really took the responsibility for their work!Today, politicians do not care,they do not take responsibility for their actions taken!We spend billions of Euros (or in your case Dollars), like for immigrants.Welfare and culturally cuts are one outcome of the exorbitant spendings for nonsense. National Socialism, at the beginning, got Germany out of its Great Depression misery,while other countries remained bankrupt.
@mrprodigy83 That is very much true, democracy is being ruined by stupid people. Stupid people elect stupid and corrupt people which causes obvious problems.
@rangergxi Well, I see it this way: in todays' times, it is as follows: wrong time - wrong place, and you can end up dead! This situation has increased since the borders have been opened, lets say in Germany like 10-15 years ago.In fascism, people were more decent to each other, and the population was heterogenic.Today, politicians force us to like people who do not even contribute to society.They say:"look, isnt it great to lose your own identity? Feel guilty if you are against it!"
@rangergxi But you are right, the state got control over its citizens in many aspects, but it was far away from "slavery".Germany freed itself from capitalism and deployed a moderate Socialism,while the economy remained autonomous (although there was a 4 year schedule planning).In NS,the people were encouraged to help each other and worked out in NS Organizations once or twice the week,today people just care for themselves.Drug addicted hollywood stars are the new idols for the youth.
@rangergxi I do not say that it had no flaws, indeed it got over the top in many aspects, but it was no less freedom than today. The definition is just differently. I enjoy capitalism myself, and I live a decent life, but I can also understand why Germany tried to fee itself from it and wanted to get rid off American or British influence. Do you feel free?The gasp between poor and rich is huge and gets bigger..the slaves were not the Germans during WW2.We are all slaves of money now.
@mrprodigy83 if it had concentrated it's armies on the west but the Soviets would not have stood idle while Germany became a powerful mega-power.
Also, Germany would have won but the German people would have still been enslaved under Facism, having their lives regimented and their freedoms restricted.
This past August, here in Windsor, Ontario, we had a large ceremony unveiling a commemorative monument to the soldiers of the Essex Scottish regiment who fought at Dieppe. The current mayor of Dieppe came all the way over here to speak at the function. It was a pleasure to be there and see a few of the veterans of that raid in attendance as well.
Operation Jubilee: Aug. 19, 1942 - 900 Canadian boys lost.
Lol omaha beach, first wave of 2500 americans: Lets show them how we do it in AMERICA! pearl harbour: Those have got to be birds........ right? Phillipines: Shit, hope no one sees this! lol
poor french canadian i am a french canadian or a quebecois the battle of dieppe was the most bloody battle of or history all the family in quebec lose a members im is family.
mountbattens fiasco. Lessons learned for d-day- tanks couldn't move on a shingle beach! the guy was a moron. Only got his place because of his connections. Fair play to the Canadians they did their bit Unfortunately led by english upper class twits
Its funny because in the german propaganda film they state there was airsupport used by the allies, at the last minutes notice, Lord Mountbatten pulled the airsupport out because the thought it was not needed.... Fucking moron, caused sooo many Canadians their lives.
@UtahMike41 It Was A Terrible Slaughter, But Those Men Who Died Saved Thousands More On D-Day For What Was Learnt. Such As Army, Navy & Air Had To Work Together @ The Same Time As A Team.
@UtahMike41 it was a shame but not a waste if not for this raid and its flaws the dday riad would be just as bad as it. the raid showed us how to attack and what not to do.
lmao.. RabbiSchmuck you watch a couple of Walt Disney movies about Bon Jovi capturing the enigma machine and you're a better expert than all the historians and soldiers who were in the War.
All you prove is how bad the USA education system is.
@MonsterMozz In the US education is state run, so each state has its own educational standards. So some people from Connecticut, with an excellent educational system, are brougt down by Alabama and South Carolina with their poorer standards.
yes i know about the car he was in that was strafed whats that got to do with anything? Sorry old chap I should have been more specific. What I meant to say is that given the proper logistical support Rommel was brilliant. An example would be when the Wermacht attacked France and Rommel lead the famous "ghost" division he used a lot of dash and noone knew where his armour would turn up next he should courage under fire and often led from the "front" wherever it may be. Just my opinion.
Monty was arrogant but also a very cautious man preferring to wait for an overwhelming superority in numbers of men and materiel before attacking. Thus it made him somewhat predictable. Although I find it a little unfair to say "his knickers would be full of brown stuff" he was no coward. But saying that the overall best commander in open (as opposed to the bocages of France etc) has to be Feld Marschall Erwin Rommel whose strategic and tactical brilliance was second to none and he had dash.
@dragonkilla7 If Hitler wasn't sleeping and Rommel had actual command in France over the specific Armored Divisions, he woulda placed them sooner closer to the beaches, this could have ment a failed landing of the Allies. Esp when the Airsupport wasn't that good in the normandy area, due to a lot of coverage from natural things like indeed the bocages etc. Good for heavy armored german tanks, blitz troops.
@dragonkilla7 Cause Rommel was a very very good commander, maybe one of the best. I also think some Russian commanders deserve props, i.e Stalingrad etc.
It was not Eisenhower that ignored Montgomeries advice that the 'Funnies should be used, it was Bradley.
"The comparatively light casualties which we sustained on all beaches, except Omaha, were in large measure due to the success of the novel mechanical contrivances which we employed, and the staggering moral and material effect of the mass of armour landed in the leading waves of the assault."
Dwight Eisenhower
Bradley ignored the lessons of Dieppe and it cost lives. Monty was right.
Most of the Funnies were designed to dominate and secure the beach. The British learned from Dieppe that unprotected infantry could not take and hold a beach. I would say a flame-throwing tank would have kept the Ukrainians heads down and allowed
more cover than to hide behind the sea wall, without even leaving the sea strand. All Allied tanks were substandard just that the Sherman brewed up the easiest. The 17 pounder Sherman Firefly bagged a few Tigers.
I think now you are reduced to just slinging insults.
Yes a higher density than the eastern front. Even with crap tanks like the Sherman we broke through. With T 34s it would taken half the time. Ask the French about Dunkirk.
We took on the Nazis while you having a good sleep in Hawaii
You have not explained why all those GI's lost their lives at Omaha. And how the American command was so inept as to ignore the lessons of Dieppe. That was not just incompetence that was foolish arrogance.
The Canadians & Brits were fighting a higher concentration of SS & Panzer units than the Russians faced in the east. Perhaps the relatively lower casualty rate is testiment to the experience and skill of the British forces. After all we had been at it 3 years longer than the US. Patton joined in once the hard fighting was over just in time to chase the few pitiful remnents of the German Army across France. Monty's tactics even made Patton look good,
@MrTennesseeVols I'm not disiputing that! This comment was part of a thread to an American idiot that has now had his comments removed from this channel. He was posting offensive comments about British servicemen.No offence meant to decent, sensible Americans.
The Brit & Canadian beaches were not easy.They were made to look easy It is a testiment to the pre planning, skill and lessons learned from Dieppe that the German defences were overcome. Just sending waves of unprotected Infantry against fortifications was WW1 tactics. The amphibious sherman drivers had not recieved proper training at Omaha and turned there tanks side on against the waves, causing them to sink. The Churchill funnies saved lives on D day Eisenhowers lack of vision cost many.
The Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank had excellent hill climb. Even if it got only
half way up it would have taken out the machine guns. The Avre's could have blown the bunkers even from the beach.Plus they would have provided cover. Monty offered Eisenhower half share in them but he refused, If you think Dieppe was incompetant then there is no excuse for Omaha. The American generals didn't learn they sent those GI's in with no cover. That is INCOMPETANCE to ignore lessons from Dieppe.
Are you saying Eisenhower was responsible for the Omaha fiasco. Ironically the lesson of Dieppe lead to the Brits developing the 'Hobart Funnies'. These were armoured vehicles that could deal and respond to all situations in a sea born Invasion. They worked spectacularly on the Brit and Can'dn beaches. A tribute to British invention and Montys forsight. The Americans refused to use them apart from the amphibious Sherman. I feel if they had them at Omaha then the casualties would have been lower
Pont du Hoc & Omaha were due to bad intelligence and loosing the amphibious tanks. Montgomery deliberately put the Canadian & Brit landings nearest to the Crack Panzer and SS divisions so that the Americans who were fighting Russian, Polish and regular germans could break out. It was part of Montys plan to draw the SS and panzer divisions onto the Brits and Canadians. So don't flatter yourself. The Brits were grinding it out against the Tiger and Panther tanks. I think it worked don't you?
I would have thought that the Americans would like Montgomery. During the Normandy campaign he gave the Americans all the easy missions. He gave the toughest to the Brits and the Canadians
Dieppe is still remembered here in southwestern Ontario, Canada. One of the units there was the Essex Scottish, which was from Windsor, Ontario and had a few men I knew within its ranks at Dieppe. They were taken prisoner. They say that crucial lessons were learned because of the raid - and that's true - but they were learned at a terrible price. So many costly blunders were committed that, even without a previous action to compare to, shouldn't have happened. Result: over 900 Canadians dead.
it was mainly because of the excellent britsh secret service. They cracked the german enigma code and turned many german agents. They were also very clever to let the germans didnt know that this was happen. Until 1942 the allies knew everything aubout the german plans. Despit this most britzish generals were incompetent. Only lucky to have american quartermasters and brave irish, canadian and australian soldiers.
I think you mean Caen. The Brits & Canadians faced a higher concentration
of SS panzer and SS divisions than the
Soviets had on the Eastern front. All defending Caen. The US had nothing like the it, just the Bocage to hold them up The Us did not crack the Jap codes they were helped by the Brains at Bletchley park. The Brits pulled off some spectacular darring successes. Bad intelligence let down Market Garden. Brit
airbourne were fighting Panzers at Arnhem with their bare hands.
How you Americans missed that lot coming your way.?That goes down as a 24carat Military cock up if ever there was one. Oh yes the Battle of Britain the Nazi's
first defeat, Sinking of the Graf Spey, Sinking of the Bizmark. The Nazi's never dared put out a surface ship ever again.
The most important factor of the WW2 Allied victory: the cracking of the Enigma code and even the Jap codes. Step forward and take a bow, Britain.
Brit & Comwealth forces cleared the Jap forces from India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina, Malaya and Singapore with minimal US help. Clark only got the job because Alexander was promoted to Supreme Commander of the Med theatre. Clark deliberately ignored the battle plan for his own glory. Monty got the Allies to Seine 90 days ahead of schedule, Top man. The Brits & Canadians smashed the Tiger riddled Panzer and SS Divisions on the way (Private Ryan bullshit). Patton was Sunday driving thru France.
You have to wonder about the comments below talking about militery operations forgeting about all the funerals that followed and all the injuries and sufering.
'suicide' missions night after night throughout the war. They knew they had
slim chances of survival but continued because they were brave men. The success in Normandy was due to the failure at Dieppe. Hence the Mullberry harbour system. Why are you using hindsight to discredit Brits, Brit success by far outways the failures. The American command made big mistakes but what's the point of making vindictive comments.
Absolute Crap, the Canadian command requested this mission as they had not
seen any action up until this mission.
British servicemen fought and died in large numbers in Gallipoli, Somme, Arhem and Italy. To portray Canadians and other Allies as victims of a British conspirecy is crass and untrue. What is your real agenda behind this crass opinionated Anglophbic nonsense
Hahaha, funny to see you folks debating which country fought better... and where are we today? Your zionist controlled countries go down the dwell. The (jewish) commies slaughtered some 50mio christians during and in the aftermath of WW2 and the world was split a half. There had been no korea, no vietnam, no a-bombs, no gulags, no pogroms against christians.
my great uncle fought in that raid, he was captured but he jumped off the train that was headed to the pow camp, What a rebel! ;) he joined MI-9 after
Wasn't this raid a faint? I think they were trying to heft the German strength, but also check out radio installations. ULTRA sent men and so did British Intelligence to kill THOSE men if they were captured. The secrets in that war had secrets.
It wasn't a complete waste, D-Day was based off this attack, but made significant improvements. Without this attack, D-Day would've been much more of a disaster.
this landing operation was quite stupid.. its seems like a good-fitting german word describes it: "himmelfahrts-kommando" = "go to heaven-commando" which means a mission is so difficult, the chance to die is very high. in that year france was still too full with experienced german divisions.. it was hopeless to try to invade with a force like the british used in dieppe.....
I live in an area of Canada where one of the regiments that was at Dieppe, the Essex Scottish, is from. Of just over 550 officers and men who went ashore, only 50 Essex Scottish made it back to England. There are still a few ex-POWs still living in the small town where I grew up. In this area, Dieppe still is very much a part of the heritage here. No one has forgotten the terrible losses suffered then.
dam war shouldnt been they should have stoped it from 1925 from the teaty of versi pardon my spelling
bladeliker 1 month ago
@bladeliker That treaty set up the ground for ww2.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
I don't speak German,. but it looks from the beginning of this film that they were completely exaggerating up the size of the attacking force. The Dieppe raid was an utter farce at the expense of Canadian troops and heads should have rolled for it.
carmium 2 months ago
AND LETS NOT FORGET THE FACT THAT
Germany could've beat the USA's Britain's and Russia's asses if it was a 1 vs 1 battle
dickran2142battle 2 months ago
@dickran2142battle too bad they didn't. So how can that be a fact.
celebrimor90 2 months ago
@celebrimor90 ive seen that in an article which said that a US university found out that if Germany concentrated on one enemy at a time it would win
dickran2142battle 2 months ago
@dickran2142battle now I believe you?
celebrimor90 2 months ago
@dickran2142battle You said Germany could have defeated Britain 1 vs 1? However after the fall of France the British were left fighting alone on fronts in Europe + Africa. The Luftwaffe was the best in Europe, Also 3x the size of the RAF. Yet it was the British who humiliated the Axis during the Battle of Britain and kicked the Axis out of Africa,Mid-East and lead the liberation of Europe from Facism & Communism!
martynrobin121 2 months ago
@martynrobin121 WHAT IF GERMANY ATTACKED BRITAIN BY LAND????
dickran2142battle 2 months ago
@dickran2142battle It was impossible for German or its Allies to attack Britain by land. However the British would have fought for every hill,house,field,street,garden,etc Churchill gave the order for NO-SURRENDER and the morale in Britain was great they were prepared to die and do whatever it took, Even the Women were told to fight they had weapons and would fight for every house,kitchen. The British are no push overs, Poland was weak and France gave up, Britain would never surrender.
martynrobin121 2 months ago
@martynrobin121 .... Poland... Attacked by Both the SOVIET UNION and NAZI GERMANY. Read up on the Warsaw uprising, where civilians rose up in opposition against the Nazi occupation. We also have wild things like the famous French Resistance who assisted the allies during the Liberation of France.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@martynrobin121 THe channel islands were occupied, which belonged to britain. They didnt fight the way you described it, and surrendered..
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 You are very funny, There was NO British Forces on the Channel Islands. When the Axis Forces arrived, There was no fighting. And the Occupation was mostly peace-full, The Axis were under strict orders be good or deal with the Hitler or the SS. It was impossible for the Axis to even attempt any invasion of Britain, The Axis had NOTHING to invade with, And every Britons was prepared to do their duty for Freedom & Democracy, From Man,Women,Child.
RULE BRITANNIA!
martynrobin121 3 weeks ago
@martynrobin121 No forces, but British population, and they were calm as well as the German forces. No big deal. Yes, Operation Sealion was impossible at that time. Britain and its island..thats the only thing that is responsible Britain was not conquered. Not military strenght.
mrprodigy83 2 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 What the hell are you talking about? Britain was the military superpower at that time. Operation Sea-Lion was impossible due to the fact the British had the worlds biggest & best Navy, Look at the state of Germany and its Allies navy? The Channel Islands were not occupied by British Forces or any other, Yet the luftwaffe bombed and the Axis Facist troops occupied. What could the Civilians do? Civilians who fought back were sent to Camps in mainland Europe.
martynrobin121 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 The navy was the best, I agree, but Germanys strength was exceeding the British by far regarding army and airforce. Or do you think Britain at that time would have been able to fight a war like Germany did? Against the huge bolshevik empire in the east and the Americans in west? I tell you without the island it would have been conquered like france, there is no doubt about that except from idiotic patriots who often forget to think before they talk.
mrprodigy83 1 week ago
@mrprodigy83 You make out Germany fought alone! The British were never able to put their Armies on 1 Front, They had an Empire & 1/4 of the entire Planet to protect. The Brits could only send hand-full of divisions to certain fronts logistical nightmare. Germany & its Allies were able to attack front by front with everything they had. The RAF outnumbered crushed the Luftwaffe 2-1, Battle of Britain 1940.
Royal Navy best in the world. The main problem was the Army & logistics.
martynrobin121 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 i dont think there were any Waffen-SS units in the channel islands, only Wehrmacht Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine and there was limited gestapo because there were mostly units of the Ordnungspolizei as a police force
Il21946fan 1 week ago
@martynrobin121 We have that crazy Eastern Front people seem to neglect to mention?
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@martynrobin121
Germany didnt lose the Battle of Britain, it simply didnt continue it.. and i think he meant that if an invasion would have occured, the Brits would flee for their lifes... 1vs1 with no island between the armies, you know?
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@dickran2142battle Germany dedicated it's whole country to war, building up a huge army and airforce. The free world was not so warlike and the East was weak/divided.
The Soviet Union needed time to build up it's military to fight the Nazi's who had years of training and a vast stockpile of military supplies, same with Britain and the United States.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@dickran2142battle That is true... on 1vs1, every nation would have failed against the Wehrmacht.. it was close even with the actual outcome
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
1500 germans vs 10500 allied and germans win overwhelming... wow
TheShitCan 2 months ago
@TheShitCan What? You make out the Germans fought alone! However they were part of the Axis Powers- Germany,Italy,Romania,Bulgaria,Finland,Japan,etc,etc. nations from around the world.
martynrobin121 2 months ago
@martynrobin121 okay your right about the Axis but i meant North France And there were only Germans
TheShitCan 2 months ago
It was also to get possible information from any prisoners they caught.
marpole8 4 months ago
I think the idea of the Dieppe Raid was to probe the German's Atlantic Wall that was closest to the British Isles at the expense of British soldiers and sailors' lives . So sad . Was it worth it ?
MrHelmyabdullah 5 months ago
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ZZirkittoN7thst 5 months ago
Canadians should kill Churchill
batalion666 5 months ago
Typical - send the 'colonies' in when cannon fodder is needed. Did the same with the Irish in ww1.
gordieK 6 months ago
@gordieK The Canadian top brass volunteered for this mission. The Canadian forces had been in Britain for nearly 2 years without combat experience. The malority of British soldiers were in North Africa. The Canadian generals were keen to show what there men could do. It was not a conspiracy as you suggest.
LordGodofMercy 6 months ago
Jews and americans causes all shit, byebye 1000year peace.
88Phobos 6 months ago
@88Phobos Idiot.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
It's all about madness people!!!
But I love everything about history
It brought us were we are today!!!
atalaya1980 6 months ago
Canada's biggest wartime lose, damn Nazi Bastards.
GerrettJihad 7 months ago
@GerrettJihad lol stupid Canadians fits better!
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
@mrprodigy83 haha, fuck you..
GerrettJihad 3 months ago
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@GerrettJihad Very mature... as all of your comments... lol
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
we lost allot of good men on this.. may they rip.. poor boys.
GerrettJihad 3 months ago
@GerrettJihad You should have let Germany alone.. none forced you to conduct a raid on Dieppe. Canada appeared to be the lapdog of Britain.. without GB, Canada would not have suffered these losses at all.
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
@mrprodigy83 leave them alone to exterminate everyone and everything??? they would have invaded america and canada... derp
GerrettJihad 3 months ago
@GerrettJihad this answer is a short sightes as any of your comments.. learn some history you fool
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
without canada britain would have lost... so I happy to have helped them.
GerrettJihad 3 months ago
@mrprodigy83 canada was also a DOMINION at that time.It was not its own country yet....dumbass
waderp 3 months ago
@waderp Ah yes, so Canada WAS Britains lapdog, as I said before. So why dumbass? I forgot about that, you fuckhead.
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
@GerrettJihad And than Caen, Falais and Italy happened.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
I'd like to see this with English subtitles. Nein sprecken zi Deutsche.
Clevinger67 7 months ago
A big part of the reasoning behind this raid was to keep the Nazis thinking that Calais was going to be the place where the Allies would eventually land instead of Normandy. The allies put a lot of effort into this deception, the result was that when the D-Day landings took place the bulk of the German military was sitting in the Calais area and wasn’t allowed to move until it was too late.
primpal08 7 months ago
The plan called for an unimaginative frontal assault, without any heavy preliminary air bombardment. Under pressure from the Canadian government to ensure that Canadian troops saw some action, the 2nd Canadian Infantry Division was selected for the main force.
* who needs a foe with such a government*
oddballsok 8 months ago
Holly shit ! l read the comments , l can see that many could not even point where is canada on the map !
APhilCollinsFan 9 months ago
Dieppe Landung war zu kühn und schlecht vorbereitet.
notaire2 10 months ago
Dieppe was a raid to see if it could be accomplished, unfornately they decided to use mainly Canadian Troops for cannon practice, ...
GreywolfMiner 10 months ago
Allies had to kill thousands civilians to free a country ! like Iraq,Afghanistan,,,and libya maybe a victim too !
lookgooddz 11 months ago
Je suis dieppois et c'est avec émotion que je regarde ces images.
Les pages les plus sombres de l'histoire de Dieppe, un véritable carnage pour les alliés, la préparation du débarquement de normandie le 6 juin 1944.
Il ne faudra jamais oublier cet événement tragique, cela fait partie de nôtre histoire, des milliers de soldats ont sacrifié leur vie dans cette attaque.
Un immense merci aux Alliés qui ont finalement, après de multiples tentatives et sacrifices, libéré la France.
someone76200 1 year ago
As for being a "waste" or "unecessary". Even in 1942 it was still widely held that an Amphibious Assault must be aimed at capturing an existing sea-port to enable supply of the Bridgehead once established. Nobody believed that it was possible to supply a large force over open beaches. THAT is why the lessons were learned, admittedly at a high cost, and the Allies were able to assault 2 years later and avoid the same mistakes. See "Mulberry" & "PLUTO" in connection with D-Day.
digglyda 1 year ago
I'm German and i can tell you this, one day Germany will become independent wether u like it or not, we will clear Europe from Gays/Muslims/Jews/Socialists
TR3Y4LI4E 1 year ago
@TR3Y4LI4E And one day you will wake up, untill then dream on, mein Freund, lol
KevinJKtheman 10 months ago
Look! It's the Americans! They're here to save Europe! Uh... Oops!
tannalv 1 year ago
Those poor men were used as guinea pigs, Mountbatten knew that it would be a total failure even before the first wave landed. Dieppe was probably one of the most impractical places on the French coast to land and I think it was picked for exactly that reason.. The Germans were also forewarned to such an extent that it couldn't be an accident. The British have a long history of sending their troops on futile suicide missions.
Cytacon 1 year ago
@Cytacon: He did not know. Intelligence said that the German defenders in the immediate area were limited to a single Battalion and NOT a full Regiment of 3 Battalions. Operation Jubilee is a long list of mistakes and mis-judgements but the accusation of deliberate foolhardy intent is nonsense.
digglyda 1 year ago
@Cytacon They were not British or at least the vast majority at Dieppe were not British.
2tuque2 1 year ago
Thank you Mountbatton for killing all those poor allied soldiers. If you stuck with the original plan the raid probably would have worked.
rumrich 1 year ago
@rumrich As a Canadian, that's why I rejoiced when I learned that the IRA killed him with a bomb on his yacht in 1979. Poetic justice I guess...
flownet07 10 months ago
@flownet07 Why did you rejoice in the murder of Mountbatten? He wasn't the only one culpable for the waste of all those Brave Canadians. Harry Crerar - the top Canadian Officer of the war - not only supported the raid but insisted that the Canadian's take part and have a major role, without his support Mountbatten couldn't have put the operation into effect because CIGS - Alanbrooke - had already cancelled it after Montgomery formally objected to it on the grounds of a breach of security.
11nytram11 9 months ago
@11nytram11 a little ironic remark. The name is an Anglicisation of the German Battenberg, a small town in Hesse. The title of count of Battenberg, later prince of Battenberg, was granted to a morganatic branch of the House of Hesse-Darmstadt in the mid 19th century. Mountbatten is the family name originally adopted by a branch of the Battenberg family due to rising anti-German sentiment among the British public during World War I
ad220588 8 months ago
@ad220588 I fail to see where your point has relevance to either the clip or my statement. Mountbatten and the whole Royal Family changed their family names to seperate themselves from their German roots but that has nothing to do with the Dieppe Raid and the culpability of Mountbatten or anyone else in its failure.
11nytram11 8 months ago
What do you think the world would be like, if Hitler did succeed at everything? complete mayhem? The only reason he lost the war is because he got impatient and back stabbed Russia and then started a two front war, Hmmm I guess he was thinking straight considering thats how Germany lost WW1
budthestud696969 1 year ago
@budthestud696969 Not really, Hitler was a ignorant idiot at the end of the war, tactically he send hundreds of thousands of elite fighters into their death, think of Stalingrad.. the continued production of heavy tanks instead of Fast fighter jets, etc etc. You think there is no reaction for the actions he commited. He sacrificed himself to ignorance and hate.
He was left to die in a ditch while being burned by his own troops, what a glorious end...
Mankind would never have stopped fighting
md0206 1 year ago
@md0206 He saw what happened to mussolini.
jrobertsoneff 1 year ago
@md0206 Stalingrad was not at the end of the war you fool, it was in the middle. They thought they could invade Russia as quickly as they did with Poland, unfortunately this was a dream, and ended up in the nightmare with a Russian flag waving over the Reichstag.
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
@mrprodigy83 Stalingrad was the end of the war. Germany never recovered from the losses at Kursk, Stalingrad, and whatnot. The defeat of Nazi germany was mostly because of the fact Hitler depleted his main Army's to Stalingrad as a whole while not going around it.
Call me a fool anyday but this is known fact.
md0206 3 months ago
@mrprodigy83 Stalingrad is considered to be the turning point in the war by most, so i'll refer to that aswell, Hitler sacrificed about 1 million people fighting for the Reich to die around that city alone, Russia could cope with such losses, Germany could not.
md0206 3 months ago
@md0206 So your statement proves that it was the middle of the war :-) The Russians as well as the Allied had terrible strategists, they only succeeded because of your mentionend menpower.. They sent in their men regardless of how many would fall. Iwo Jima, Omaha Beach, Market Garden are just 3 examples of miserably lead allied operations. I respect the Russians though, because they really suffered.
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
@mrprodigy83 Not to mention bad German strategies, eg The whole Eastern Front, Battle of the Bulge, Falais gap, 6th army encirclement,
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi The whole eastern front? What a laugh.. it was the winter, and not operational strategies, that held up the war machine. But we Germans always didnt want a second front..as imagine all forces were combined at the western front? It would have been a different world now. And where are you from? Canada? Lol.. what great wars did your country ever fight? WW2? With, like 2 batallions or what? LOL.. well at least you purchase German tanks now..
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 wow how ignorant you are look up vimy ridge goofball! You will learn all about CANADA that you need to. during WW2 Hitler din not deicrate the memorial as he knew what true strength was! LOOK IT UP SELF IMPOSED BADASS!
TheMrfreedomrequired 4 weeks ago
@TheMrfreedomrequired Canada is uninteresting when its about war. I know most of the nations that mattered and the commonwealth troops are, well, not interesting.. but I accept that you celebrate your troops.
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 Canada is not a warlike country, we didn't even genocide our natives when marching west O_o
Odd stuff
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@TheMrfreedomrequired Always Vimy ridge -_-
What about the Falais Pocket, Caen and Italy.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi You forgot your question matk at the end! I think you are asking a question? What about them they were all great battles by great soldiers....what do you want to know about them?
TheMrfreedomrequired 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 Judging the greatness of a nation by it's wars? What about economic prosperity, the quality of lives for it's citizens and the freedoms of the citizens enjoy?
Germany is an excellent nation in all those regards but facism does not bring prosperity. It is simply slavery of the masses and endless conflict. Canada tries to be Liberal with it's wars only participating in peace actions, kind of like modern Germany
-_-
Germany would have destroyed the western front * CONT
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi Well, you talk about fascism doesnt bring prosperity, but what about democracies? In face of the biggest economic crisis the world has ever seen, its a kind of hard thing to defend democracy I think. Germany had an Emperor until 1918, afterwards we already HAD a democracy, the Weimar Republic, but it failed because of too much talking and too few acting. National Socialism had other aims than "slaving its people". It was aggressive, of course, but lead to prosperity.
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 Facism put's the survival of the state over the survival of the people and the rights of the individual.
I agree with the Facist notion of "Humans need to struggle for progress" but constant wars is not worth it.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi Democracy could work out,if the politicians really were up for the task.I mean,here inside Germanies parties,some people are NOT allowed to talk the truth! Some topics are to be kept quiet, like immigration problems,eg high crime rates from muslim minorities for instance.Democracies are lead by ignorant idiots, no troubelshooters. If I wasnt so much disappointed by democracy,I might would not think about fascism in a positive way. Things do not improve - its the oppposite!
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 Is this really democracies fault?
Nope, When things are good people just get stupid and stop caring about the issues. Some people are stupid regardless of the political system.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi It lead to prosperity because the newly deployed governors really took the responsibility for their work!Today, politicians do not care,they do not take responsibility for their actions taken!We spend billions of Euros (or in your case Dollars), like for immigrants.Welfare and culturally cuts are one outcome of the exorbitant spendings for nonsense. National Socialism, at the beginning, got Germany out of its Great Depression misery,while other countries remained bankrupt.
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 That is very much true, democracy is being ruined by stupid people. Stupid people elect stupid and corrupt people which causes obvious problems.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi Well, I see it this way: in todays' times, it is as follows: wrong time - wrong place, and you can end up dead! This situation has increased since the borders have been opened, lets say in Germany like 10-15 years ago.In fascism, people were more decent to each other, and the population was heterogenic.Today, politicians force us to like people who do not even contribute to society.They say:"look, isnt it great to lose your own identity? Feel guilty if you are against it!"
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi But you are right, the state got control over its citizens in many aspects, but it was far away from "slavery".Germany freed itself from capitalism and deployed a moderate Socialism,while the economy remained autonomous (although there was a 4 year schedule planning).In NS,the people were encouraged to help each other and worked out in NS Organizations once or twice the week,today people just care for themselves.Drug addicted hollywood stars are the new idols for the youth.
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@rangergxi I do not say that it had no flaws, indeed it got over the top in many aspects, but it was no less freedom than today. The definition is just differently. I enjoy capitalism myself, and I live a decent life, but I can also understand why Germany tried to fee itself from it and wanted to get rid off American or British influence. Do you feel free?The gasp between poor and rich is huge and gets bigger..the slaves were not the Germans during WW2.We are all slaves of money now.
mrprodigy83 4 weeks ago
@mrprodigy83 if it had concentrated it's armies on the west but the Soviets would not have stood idle while Germany became a powerful mega-power.
Also, Germany would have won but the German people would have still been enslaved under Facism, having their lives regimented and their freedoms restricted.
rangergxi 4 weeks ago
@md0206 Ah yes, I forgot the Raid on Dieppe, another example how foolish allied commanders were.
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
This past August, here in Windsor, Ontario, we had a large ceremony unveiling a commemorative monument to the soldiers of the Essex Scottish regiment who fought at Dieppe. The current mayor of Dieppe came all the way over here to speak at the function. It was a pleasure to be there and see a few of the veterans of that raid in attendance as well.
Operation Jubilee: Aug. 19, 1942 - 900 Canadian boys lost.
Lest We Forget
Clevinger67 1 year ago 2
Excellent defence by germans!
skyforer 1 year ago
brake my hearth when i see the bodys
ocelot10 1 year ago
Lol omaha beach, first wave of 2500 americans: Lets show them how we do it in AMERICA! pearl harbour: Those have got to be birds........ right? Phillipines: Shit, hope no one sees this! lol
brisk133 1 year ago
FLAME ON!
brianwurst1234 1 year ago
poor french canadian i am a french canadian or a quebecois the battle of dieppe was the most bloody battle of or history all the family in quebec lose a members im is family.
simoncarl70 1 year ago
what?
MultiCH09 1 year ago
das war ein test und ein commandounternehmen
kotti251 1 year ago
mountbattens fiasco. Lessons learned for d-day- tanks couldn't move on a shingle beach! the guy was a moron. Only got his place because of his connections. Fair play to the Canadians they did their bit Unfortunately led by english upper class twits
MrDonegalboy 2 years ago
@MrDonegalboy you have no idea what you're talking about - shut up you bore
ryko26 2 years ago
stop following me about ryko you're obviously english and queer up the ra!
MrDonegalboy 2 years ago
queer up the ra!
ryko26 2 years ago
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stop following me about ryko you're obviously english and queer up the ra!
MrDonegalboy 2 years ago
Your heroes the 'ra', as you call them were
allied to the Nazi's. That shitwipe Sean Russell was buried at sea under a Nazi flag with full Nazi honours from a U boat.
Thankfully someone had the good sense to decapitate his statue.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
Da haben wir´s den allies gezeigt!!
Master666555 2 years ago
I LIVE IN PLYMOUTH XD
RoseHellings 2 years ago
Its funny because in the german propaganda film they state there was airsupport used by the allies, at the last minutes notice, Lord Mountbatten pulled the airsupport out because the thought it was not needed.... Fucking moron, caused sooo many Canadians their lives.
elfishgrin 2 years ago
@elfishgrin
The Allies lost 104 planes for 48 German, where did those aiplanes come from?
Please elaborate your point.
dientze 2 years ago
Where did you get these facts?
elfishgrin 2 years ago
Those poor guys were slaughtered. What a waste.
UtahMike41 2 years ago 16
@UtahMike41 It Was A Terrible Slaughter, But Those Men Who Died Saved Thousands More On D-Day For What Was Learnt. Such As Army, Navy & Air Had To Work Together @ The Same Time As A Team.
MapleBalls 2 years ago
@UtahMike41 it was a shame but not a waste if not for this raid and its flaws the dday riad would be just as bad as it. the raid showed us how to attack and what not to do.
bambuzledm 1 year ago
The Red Army put the final nail in the coffin when they completely destroyed Berlin.
guitar241990 2 years ago
damn canadians like your videos :))))
SCHEDTER 2 years ago
lmao.. RabbiSchmuck you watch a couple of Walt Disney movies about Bon Jovi capturing the enigma machine and you're a better expert than all the historians and soldiers who were in the War.
All you prove is how bad the USA education system is.
MonsterMozz 2 years ago 23
@MonsterMozz In the US education is state run, so each state has its own educational standards. So some people from Connecticut, with an excellent educational system, are brougt down by Alabama and South Carolina with their poorer standards.
naltrexone23X 1 year ago
mave.foorumi.eu
marjis3 1 year ago
Que dire de plus ?
centcinqtiretquinze 1 year ago
@MonsterMozz When did Disney make a movie with Bon Jovi based in WWII??? Kinda sounds like you're an idiot too.
gumper1986 11 months ago
@MonsterMozz When did Disney make a movie with Bon Jovi based in WWII??? Kinda sounds like you're an idiot too.
gumper1986 11 months ago
@gumper1986 Look up the film U-571 then go fuck yourself.
MonsterMozz 11 months ago
@MonsterMozz It isn't a Disney movie, idiot. That was part of the original equation.
gumper1986 11 months ago
@gumper1986 lmao.. is that th4e best you can do, like I say go fuck yourself you sad cunt.
MonsterMozz 11 months ago
@MonsterMozz lol you are so right!
mrprodigy83 3 months ago
hey rabbi your name is rather ironic dont you think? lol
dragonkilla7 2 years ago
yes i know about the car he was in that was strafed whats that got to do with anything? Sorry old chap I should have been more specific. What I meant to say is that given the proper logistical support Rommel was brilliant. An example would be when the Wermacht attacked France and Rommel lead the famous "ghost" division he used a lot of dash and noone knew where his armour would turn up next he should courage under fire and often led from the "front" wherever it may be. Just my opinion.
dragonkilla7 2 years ago
G-d bless Allied soldiers who sacrificed their lives to weed out nazi vermin.
YamaniNetsi 2 years ago
This was a mostly Canadian and British effort. 50 American Rangers. 5,000 Canadians, 1,000 British.
elfishgrin 2 years ago
So, what is your point - it wasn't an allied effort?
YamaniNetsi 2 years ago
?? im only saying Canadian lives because the brunt of the casualties and POW's Were infact. Canadian.
elfishgrin 2 years ago
You're a typical ignorant American tool.
ParaTom88 2 years ago 3
Monty was arrogant but also a very cautious man preferring to wait for an overwhelming superority in numbers of men and materiel before attacking. Thus it made him somewhat predictable. Although I find it a little unfair to say "his knickers would be full of brown stuff" he was no coward. But saying that the overall best commander in open (as opposed to the bocages of France etc) has to be Feld Marschall Erwin Rommel whose strategic and tactical brilliance was second to none and he had dash.
dragonkilla7 2 years ago 2
@dragonkilla7 If Hitler wasn't sleeping and Rommel had actual command in France over the specific Armored Divisions, he woulda placed them sooner closer to the beaches, this could have ment a failed landing of the Allies. Esp when the Airsupport wasn't that good in the normandy area, due to a lot of coverage from natural things like indeed the bocages etc. Good for heavy armored german tanks, blitz troops.
md0206 1 year ago
@dragonkilla7 Cause Rommel was a very very good commander, maybe one of the best. I also think some Russian commanders deserve props, i.e Stalingrad etc.
md0206 1 year ago
You claimed the US
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
It was not Eisenhower that ignored Montgomeries advice that the 'Funnies should be used, it was Bradley.
"The comparatively light casualties which we sustained on all beaches, except Omaha, were in large measure due to the success of the novel mechanical contrivances which we employed, and the staggering moral and material effect of the mass of armour landed in the leading waves of the assault."
Dwight Eisenhower
Bradley ignored the lessons of Dieppe and it cost lives. Monty was right.
wagonhead 2 years ago
Oh yes what about the Phillipines?
McAthur handled that really well didn't he!
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
Most of the Funnies were designed to dominate and secure the beach. The British learned from Dieppe that unprotected infantry could not take and hold a beach. I would say a flame-throwing tank would have kept the Ukrainians heads down and allowed
more cover than to hide behind the sea wall, without even leaving the sea strand. All Allied tanks were substandard just that the Sherman brewed up the easiest. The 17 pounder Sherman Firefly bagged a few Tigers.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
I think now you are reduced to just slinging insults.
Yes a higher density than the eastern front. Even with crap tanks like the Sherman we broke through. With T 34s it would taken half the time. Ask the French about Dunkirk.
We took on the Nazis while you having a good sleep in Hawaii
You have not explained why all those GI's lost their lives at Omaha. And how the American command was so inept as to ignore the lessons of Dieppe. That was not just incompetence that was foolish arrogance.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
The Canadians & Brits were fighting a higher concentration of SS & Panzer units than the Russians faced in the east. Perhaps the relatively lower casualty rate is testiment to the experience and skill of the British forces. After all we had been at it 3 years longer than the US. Patton joined in once the hard fighting was over just in time to chase the few pitiful remnents of the German Army across France. Monty's tactics even made Patton look good,
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
@LordGodofMercy Patton was a great General,the best the US had in WW2!
MrTennesseeVols 1 year ago
@MrTennesseeVols I'm not disiputing that! This comment was part of a thread to an American idiot that has now had his comments removed from this channel. He was posting offensive comments about British servicemen.No offence meant to decent, sensible Americans.
LordGodofMercy 1 year ago
The Brit & Canadian beaches were not easy.They were made to look easy It is a testiment to the pre planning, skill and lessons learned from Dieppe that the German defences were overcome. Just sending waves of unprotected Infantry against fortifications was WW1 tactics. The amphibious sherman drivers had not recieved proper training at Omaha and turned there tanks side on against the waves, causing them to sink. The Churchill funnies saved lives on D day Eisenhowers lack of vision cost many.
wagonhead 2 years ago 3
The Churchill crocodile flamethrower tank had excellent hill climb. Even if it got only
half way up it would have taken out the machine guns. The Avre's could have blown the bunkers even from the beach.Plus they would have provided cover. Monty offered Eisenhower half share in them but he refused, If you think Dieppe was incompetant then there is no excuse for Omaha. The American generals didn't learn they sent those GI's in with no cover. That is INCOMPETANCE to ignore lessons from Dieppe.
wagonhead 2 years ago 2
Are you saying Eisenhower was responsible for the Omaha fiasco. Ironically the lesson of Dieppe lead to the Brits developing the 'Hobart Funnies'. These were armoured vehicles that could deal and respond to all situations in a sea born Invasion. They worked spectacularly on the Brit and Can'dn beaches. A tribute to British invention and Montys forsight. The Americans refused to use them apart from the amphibious Sherman. I feel if they had them at Omaha then the casualties would have been lower
wagonhead 2 years ago 2
Pont du Hoc & Omaha were due to bad intelligence and loosing the amphibious tanks. Montgomery deliberately put the Canadian & Brit landings nearest to the Crack Panzer and SS divisions so that the Americans who were fighting Russian, Polish and regular germans could break out. It was part of Montys plan to draw the SS and panzer divisions onto the Brits and Canadians. So don't flatter yourself. The Brits were grinding it out against the Tiger and Panther tanks. I think it worked don't you?
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago 2
I would have thought that the Americans would like Montgomery. During the Normandy campaign he gave the Americans all the easy missions. He gave the toughest to the Brits and the Canadians
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
Dieppe is still remembered here in southwestern Ontario, Canada. One of the units there was the Essex Scottish, which was from Windsor, Ontario and had a few men I knew within its ranks at Dieppe. They were taken prisoner. They say that crucial lessons were learned because of the raid - and that's true - but they were learned at a terrible price. So many costly blunders were committed that, even without a previous action to compare to, shouldn't have happened. Result: over 900 Canadians dead.
Clevinger67 2 years ago
it was mainly because of the excellent britsh secret service. They cracked the german enigma code and turned many german agents. They were also very clever to let the germans didnt know that this was happen. Until 1942 the allies knew everything aubout the german plans. Despit this most britzish generals were incompetent. Only lucky to have american quartermasters and brave irish, canadian and australian soldiers.
HeiniSauerkraut 2 years ago 2
I think you mean Caen. The Brits & Canadians faced a higher concentration
of SS panzer and SS divisions than the
Soviets had on the Eastern front. All defending Caen. The US had nothing like the it, just the Bocage to hold them up The Us did not crack the Jap codes they were helped by the Brains at Bletchley park. The Brits pulled off some spectacular darring successes. Bad intelligence let down Market Garden. Brit
airbourne were fighting Panzers at Arnhem with their bare hands.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
Oh yes what about Pearl harbour?
How you Americans missed that lot coming your way.?That goes down as a 24carat Military cock up if ever there was one. Oh yes the Battle of Britain the Nazi's
first defeat, Sinking of the Graf Spey, Sinking of the Bizmark. The Nazi's never dared put out a surface ship ever again.
The most important factor of the WW2 Allied victory: the cracking of the Enigma code and even the Jap codes. Step forward and take a bow, Britain.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
Brit & Comwealth forces cleared the Jap forces from India, Burma, Thailand, Indochina, Malaya and Singapore with minimal US help. Clark only got the job because Alexander was promoted to Supreme Commander of the Med theatre. Clark deliberately ignored the battle plan for his own glory. Monty got the Allies to Seine 90 days ahead of schedule, Top man. The Brits & Canadians smashed the Tiger riddled Panzer and SS Divisions on the way (Private Ryan bullshit). Patton was Sunday driving thru France.
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
The Brit Navy and RAF totally closed down Rommels supply lines in the Med. All part of the game plan. America's economy was saved by selling arms to
Britain & the Commonwealth, it was no gift. Lt Gen Clarke cost many Allied lives
in Italy by refusing to spring the trap on the Germans and going off to grab glory
by liberating Rome. Thus letting the entire German Army in Italy to escape north.
What battles did the US win on their own?
How were Brits incompetant?
Why are you so vindictive?
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
You have to wonder about the comments below talking about militery operations forgeting about all the funerals that followed and all the injuries and sufering.
irishrealist 2 years ago
British commandos and Aircrew went on
'suicide' missions night after night throughout the war. They knew they had
slim chances of survival but continued because they were brave men. The success in Normandy was due to the failure at Dieppe. Hence the Mullberry harbour system. Why are you using hindsight to discredit Brits, Brit success by far outways the failures. The American command made big mistakes but what's the point of making vindictive comments.
I havn't any hidden issues or agenda
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
RabbiSchickelgruber
Absolute Crap, the Canadian command requested this mission as they had not
seen any action up until this mission.
British servicemen fought and died in large numbers in Gallipoli, Somme, Arhem and Italy. To portray Canadians and other Allies as victims of a British conspirecy is crass and untrue. What is your real agenda behind this crass opinionated Anglophbic nonsense
LordGodofMercy 2 years ago
is this in another language other then English? lol
technofankid 2 years ago
Hahaha, funny to see you folks debating which country fought better... and where are we today? Your zionist controlled countries go down the dwell. The (jewish) commies slaughtered some 50mio christians during and in the aftermath of WW2 and the world was split a half. There had been no korea, no vietnam, no a-bombs, no gulags, no pogroms against christians.
Well done
Zionismisnazism 2 years ago
my great uncle fought in that raid, he was captured but he jumped off the train that was headed to the pow camp, What a rebel! ;) he joined MI-9 after
Barisaxlover 2 years ago
Wasn't this raid a faint? I think they were trying to heft the German strength, but also check out radio installations. ULTRA sent men and so did British Intelligence to kill THOSE men if they were captured. The secrets in that war had secrets.
yaknbo 2 years ago
What a senseless waste of life ,poor lads.
irishrealist 2 years ago
It wasn't a complete waste, D-Day was based off this attack, but made significant improvements. Without this attack, D-Day would've been much more of a disaster.
DylonDaPwner 2 years ago
this landing operation was quite stupid.. its seems like a good-fitting german word describes it: "himmelfahrts-kommando" = "go to heaven-commando" which means a mission is so difficult, the chance to die is very high. in that year france was still too full with experienced german divisions.. it was hopeless to try to invade with a force like the british used in dieppe.....
hairstyleriioohhh 2 years ago
I live in an area of Canada where one of the regiments that was at Dieppe, the Essex Scottish, is from. Of just over 550 officers and men who went ashore, only 50 Essex Scottish made it back to England. There are still a few ex-POWs still living in the small town where I grew up. In this area, Dieppe still is very much a part of the heritage here. No one has forgotten the terrible losses suffered then.
Clevinger67 3 years ago
fuck hitler
erikohdrywall 3 years ago