I agree with Psycarne. John McLean was a great man and thanks to Alistair his legacy lives on. Thanks so much for posting this. RIP Alistair, so sadly missed.
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Saw him perform this in a small bar outside Glasgow sometime ago and whilst I can see the relevance the song had at the time and the truth that the working man in England and France had more in common with those of the middle or upper in the class societies of the day.
It is not as relevant today as we are all just people forget country forget class.
@beahoolieThis song is antimperialist wherebyJohn McClean [one of the Red Clydesiders] was arrested and charged with sedition he wouldn't bend to the court while in prison went on hunger Strikes during same was Force fed.. History tells up that WW1 was a spat between disfunctional first despotic cousins! Gingoism [extreme patriotism] was used to send a generation of the European working class to the trenches! Nothing changes! " Betray your Country serve your class don't sign up for WAR!"
@malachy1847 Yes quite aware it is anti imperialist and focused around the struggles of John MACCLEAN. History tells us that WW1 was many things, not only but inckuding a spat between dysfunctional monarchical systems and the romanticism of jingoism.
However things do change, and the societies of different nationalities are far more intertwined and interdependent than they were during WW1.
It is a wonderful song of an enlightened man of his time calling for peace, struggling for his beliefs.
@beahoolie ' A baynote now that's a weapon with a working man at either end betray your country serve you class don't sign up for war my friend'.. how prophetic indeed ..... we can look around the world today and see the import of same.....
"Betray your country serve your class". Brilliant line.
The only war worth fighting is war against oppression. Very true, but sadly that is what plutocrats dangle in front us as propaganda with auspices of 'humanitarian intervention' and it's working.
for me war against oppression,brutal regime,genocide,ethnic cleansing,terror are wars worth fighting
TheGuilbran78 7 months ago
I agree with Psycarne. John McLean was a great man and thanks to Alistair his legacy lives on. Thanks so much for posting this. RIP Alistair, so sadly missed.
scatty51 1 year ago 2
Let us never forget the genius of your verse Alistair.
You sing loudly and clearly still in so many hearts and minds.
hibbyjo 2 years ago 6
Rest In Peace Alistair
"The Only War Worth Fighting For Is War Against Oppression"
somersettim 2 years ago 4
Alistair will be deeply missed.
caesarscook 2 years ago
You will be deeply missed comrade.
Diomedene 2 years ago 8
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Saw him perform this in a small bar outside Glasgow sometime ago and whilst I can see the relevance the song had at the time and the truth that the working man in England and France had more in common with those of the middle or upper in the class societies of the day.
It is not as relevant today as we are all just people forget country forget class.
beahoolie 2 years ago
@beahoolieThis song is antimperialist wherebyJohn McClean [one of the Red Clydesiders] was arrested and charged with sedition he wouldn't bend to the court while in prison went on hunger Strikes during same was Force fed.. History tells up that WW1 was a spat between disfunctional first despotic cousins! Gingoism [extreme patriotism] was used to send a generation of the European working class to the trenches! Nothing changes! " Betray your Country serve your class don't sign up for WAR!"
malachy1847 2 years ago 4
@malachy1847 Yes quite aware it is anti imperialist and focused around the struggles of John MACCLEAN. History tells us that WW1 was many things, not only but inckuding a spat between dysfunctional monarchical systems and the romanticism of jingoism.
However things do change, and the societies of different nationalities are far more intertwined and interdependent than they were during WW1.
It is a wonderful song of an enlightened man of his time calling for peace, struggling for his beliefs.
beahoolie 1 year ago
@beahoolie ' A baynote now that's a weapon with a working man at either end betray your country serve you class don't sign up for war my friend'.. how prophetic indeed ..... we can look around the world today and see the import of same.....
malachy1847 1 year ago 4
Sad to hear of Alistair's death. Didn't know until I came on here. So much for the media.
RIP, sir. You fought a great battle. The lower classes have lost a voice to make them heard. But others will emerge. They always do.
nacho1560 2 years ago 4
Thought provoking music-this man is a genius. Dance of the underclass is a fantastic album. Also, he has a song on Fear of a red planet
roystan57 2 years ago 8
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Fascho1 2 years ago
Fucking so true, your class before your nation. For too long we've been conned into thinking they're the same. They're no.
nacho1560 2 years ago 30
Why do I get a minus? There is a difference between nation and class.
Ordinary working men are the ones sent to war in Iraq and Afghanistan, not the rich and wealthy.
What they call my nation is different depending on your income levels.
nacho1560 2 years ago 3
Brilliant song, I saw it live about a year ago, great to see it on youtube.
inckamarx 4 years ago 2
"Betray your country serve your class". Brilliant line.
The only war worth fighting is war against oppression. Very true, but sadly that is what plutocrats dangle in front us as propaganda with auspices of 'humanitarian intervention' and it's working.
Psycarne 4 years ago 35
Song title is actually 'Don't Sign Up For War' and it's off the Red Clydeside album by Hulett and Swarbrick, by the way.
A66 4 years ago 4
Thanks to whoever prepared and posted this. Lovely piece of work!
A66 4 years ago 6