It is not because of the material, iit is because of the (lacking) playing technique. If you don't know how to hit a cymbal correctly, you will crack hundreds of them.
My oldest cymbals is a used one from the mid-60ies and it sounds great. I hope i will last 40 more years :-)
Even a extra paperthin cymbal can last hundert years ore more if used and played the right way.
It is not because of the material, iit is because of the (lacking) playing technique. If you don't know how to hit a cymbal correctly, you will crack hundreds of them.
My oldest cymbals is a used one from the mid-60ies and it sounds great. I hope i will last 40 more years :-)
Even a extra paperthin cymbal can last hundert years ore more if used and played the right way.
ive broken two cymbals in five years of playing a b8 crash and i just found a crack in my 20 inch meinl byzance ride...im not a hard hitter but i think maybe i got a defective one or something cause ive never broken a good cymbal....does anyone know meinls warranty cover age cause i cant find info on it anywhere
@paulard666 2 years I think. I found a lathing crack in my Byzance china, sent it back to the Germany factory and had a brand new one for free that sounded even better in just 3 weeks. Awesome customer service!
@bboyxray92 uum i dont think so you must have a terrible technique to break them in 2 months but if you have the right technque maybe you'll break them but i'd give it from 6 to 8 months or at least thats what my sabian crashes lasted but im changing to meinl so i cant really tell
@danieljordison0793 yea dude i don't think you know much about technique either...it took over the course of a year in a half to put a crack in my cymbals and i play sabians as well...
@tony13fg yeah maybe im still getting my oriental china has been with me for a year and still looks good but ive only been drumming for 2 and a half years but im also a heavy hitter and i think that can be one of the reasons my crashes lasted only 8 months besides bad technique
well if you play softly you can have a cymbal for much longer, but keep in mind for example that death metal requires a much louder playing style.
And it also depends on the cymbal. I had a Paiste (don't know which exactly) crash that was pretty thick... I broke it twice in one year and then exchanged it for a Meinl...
On the other hand my hihat is still the very first I ever got (Ralf Gustke signature Anatolian). Must have been like 6 or 7 years now
I play metal such as Lamb of God and Metallica and have NEVER broke or cracked a cymbal in the 4yrs ive been playing (although ive broke several skins and hundreds of sticks) Ive changed to ahead and go through the plastic covers very fast before metal is exposed :( And as with StowyCity , with aheads and metal combind and being a heavy hitter when u have the right technique its easy to avoid breaking cymbals :D ... or maybe im just lucky ;)
@Hannibu i totally agree. i have been playing drums for about 5 years and have not broken a single one, though i have come close- when i started playing drums i tried crashing heavy metal style all on a splash
what kind of music do u play? Sometimes when ur playing heavy and fast music u cant help but play hard, especially live. I break a lot of cymbals, but thats probably because im six foot three and weigh 285 and I lift a lot of weights. But when i play live my adrenaline is flowing which means im gunna hit a lot harder than if i am just practicing
The snare sounds great. In all of these videos with him playing people are like "LOL SNARE SUCKZ OVERTONES" and it pisses me off. First of all, there's barely any overtones, and second, without overtones a snare would sound boring. A little dampening is ok, but if you just eliminate all overtones it will sound generic and boring!
I know many people, including myself, that have broken Sabian's a big to quickly. Meinl has been the only brand of cymbals I haven't cracked/completely fucked up in the first three months.
No one would say, that they are beginner cymbals. Go and ask drummers like Phil Rudd (AC/DC), Ian Paice (Deep Purple), Mickey Dee (Motorhead) to name a view of hundreds who use B8 cymbals.
There are B8 beginners cymbals that sound crappy. But they are B20 cymbals that also sound like shit.
@tony13fg I have 4 friends that are way better than me at drumming and they hate Paiste too. And I'm not just going with what they say, because I had them at one point and they sucked, and they weren't the inexpensive ones.
You have really no idea of drumming. The grooves Phil Rudd plays may look easy, on the first sight. But playing them exactly that they fit to the music is the art.
Playing Blues may also appear simple. But playing it musically is very difficult.
The comment "Paiste sucks" indicates that you suck. You don't know nothing at all.
There are Paiste cymbals that are really exellent (2002, Giant Beat, Signature) and others that sound like a garbage can lid e. g. 101, PST3.
@Hannibu The whole "paiste sucks" thing is long gone. I actually like them well now. I'm just saying he sucks compared to the other artists that were mentioned
@Hannibu Mickey Dee uses all signatures, which are basically B16 cymbals. Paiste has admitted that no matter how much work you put into a cymbal, it'll never sound better than a cast B20 cymbal.
@ajcf1995 cause there's very little tin put in them its almost all copper and since copper if fairy weak .....they break the more tin a cymbal has with its copper the more musical stronger and expensive it will be plus the stronger ones are tempered and casted better their kinda like how the blade of a good sword is made
@ajcf1995 Beginner cymbals are also usually made thicker. For example, an mb8 medium cymbal is probably going to be thicker than a Byzance medium cymbal. The higher quality metals are also more flexible, meaning they are less likely to crack since they move around more and absorb shock for evenly. But what Hannibu said is right too, bad technique can make a huge difference.
Are these any good? And can you crash on the ride?
NathannRamirez 5 days ago
are these pro cymbals? cuz they cost as much as pro cymbals?
ajcf1995 1 month ago
@ajcf1995 they are pro cymbals haha.. and they don't even cost that much.
themrsunshineyay 3 days ago
That china is terrible.
tbdrummer2 1 month ago in playlist Drummer Felix M. Lehrmann
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@ ajcf1995
It is not because of the material, iit is because of the (lacking) playing technique. If you don't know how to hit a cymbal correctly, you will crack hundreds of them.
My oldest cymbals is a used one from the mid-60ies and it sounds great. I hope i will last 40 more years :-)
Even a extra paperthin cymbal can last hundert years ore more if used and played the right way.
99% of the cracks are the players fault.
Hannibu 4 months ago
It is not because of the material, iit is because of the (lacking) playing technique. If you don't know how to hit a cymbal correctly, you will crack hundreds of them.
My oldest cymbals is a used one from the mid-60ies and it sounds great. I hope i will last 40 more years :-)
Even a extra paperthin cymbal can last hundert years ore more if used and played the right way.
99% of the cracks are the players fault.
Hannibu 4 months ago
How versatile are these?
deftones720 4 months ago
reminds me of the xs20's.
drummer4life2014 5 months ago
This looks like it was shotin the 90s. Cymbals are great though
deftones720 6 months ago
i like meinl!!
bedepbekieu 6 months ago
i hate the look of these
weed940 10 months ago
I need to know where to get this complete cymbal set from.
MalikThomasDrumz 10 months ago
i need a 18 crash/ride ive got enough for a mb8 or should i save for mb10 are they really that different?
398654981 1 year ago
@398654981 The 18" medium MB10 could be a nice ride if you ask me, but not if you are a hard-hitter.
JVC7400 10 months ago
Excuse me, but the crash above the tom, sounds like a big splash.
JoepKooltje 1 year ago
@JoepKooltje thats what crashes are pretty much..... big splashes
platapush 1 year ago
Paiste RUDES
DRAG0NSIN7 1 year ago
ich finds total genial!
sowohl die becken als auch den Drummer!
MinatoNamikaze7895 1 year ago
I know this is just a demo for symbols... but that fucking sucked!
Spasm13 1 year ago
@Spasm13 are you fucking high, or are you just mental? That's as good as demos get.
Ximengz 1 year ago
@Spasm13 to be honest, your spelling fucking sucked as well.
IsaacParrack95 1 year ago
ive broken two cymbals in five years of playing a b8 crash and i just found a crack in my 20 inch meinl byzance ride...im not a hard hitter but i think maybe i got a defective one or something cause ive never broken a good cymbal....does anyone know meinls warranty cover age cause i cant find info on it anywhere
paulard666 1 year ago
@paulard666 2 years I think. I found a lathing crack in my Byzance china, sent it back to the Germany factory and had a brand new one for free that sounded even better in just 3 weeks. Awesome customer service!
Mp5Drummer 1 year ago
The Mb8s sound great.
CamoDrummer10 1 year ago
ive got a aax 18" stage crash what mb8 would go with that ppl?? i play mostly hard core stuff cheers
eddkenny 1 year ago
I want these cymbals so bad but how much are they?
SuperTastyfish 1 year ago
@SuperTastyfish mb8's are actually pretty cheap, a 16" crash is $164
CoolCoverBro 1 year ago
does anyone one know differences between heavy and medium hihats? Im guessing mediums would be more washy?
danthman44444 1 year ago
the hi hat is a nice one
ajejerulestheworld 1 year ago
SOLIDDDDDD
zootechnicsfuckurbut 1 year ago
i m a hard - hitter and i want to buy these cymbals .. i play for 2 months do you believe that i ll break them soon?
bboyxray92 2 years ago
No, but they're expensive cymbals.
redheaddrumm3r 2 years ago
@bboyxray92 uum i dont think so you must have a terrible technique to break them in 2 months but if you have the right technque maybe you'll break them but i'd give it from 6 to 8 months or at least thats what my sabian crashes lasted but im changing to meinl so i cant really tell
danieljordison0793 1 year ago
@danieljordison0793 yea dude i don't think you know much about technique either...it took over the course of a year in a half to put a crack in my cymbals and i play sabians as well...
tony13fg 1 year ago
@tony13fg yeah maybe im still getting my oriental china has been with me for a year and still looks good but ive only been drumming for 2 and a half years but im also a heavy hitter and i think that can be one of the reasons my crashes lasted only 8 months besides bad technique
danieljordison0793 1 year ago
I love the bass drum on this kit and the high tom
ItsOttis 2 years ago
@RetoRoesti
If you break cymbals easily you should not play drums.
Work on you playing technique.
In 20 years of playing I have broken ONE crash and this was in the beginning.
Hannibu 2 years ago
it depends on his style
metaldrummer12345 2 years ago
@Hannibu I broke a 45 dollar china but that's cause it was a 45 dollar china.lol
Sparten1992 2 years ago
well if you play softly you can have a cymbal for much longer, but keep in mind for example that death metal requires a much louder playing style.
And it also depends on the cymbal. I had a Paiste (don't know which exactly) crash that was pretty thick... I broke it twice in one year and then exchanged it for a Meinl...
On the other hand my hihat is still the very first I ever got (Ralf Gustke signature Anatolian). Must have been like 6 or 7 years now
strappinggermanlad 2 years ago
i play most metal, and my cymbals never broken
except one in the beginning, but now i think that i have the right technique, and ! im a heavy hitter and use Ahead sticks, so i know what im saying
sorry for my bad englich, im a german :D
StowyCity 2 years ago
I play metal such as Lamb of God and Metallica and have NEVER broke or cracked a cymbal in the 4yrs ive been playing (although ive broke several skins and hundreds of sticks) Ive changed to ahead and go through the plastic covers very fast before metal is exposed :( And as with StowyCity , with aheads and metal combind and being a heavy hitter when u have the right technique its easy to avoid breaking cymbals :D ... or maybe im just lucky ;)
CallofDutyCod123 2 years ago
@Hannibu i totally agree. i have been playing drums for about 5 years and have not broken a single one, though i have come close- when i started playing drums i tried crashing heavy metal style all on a splash
dkucia11 2 years ago
what kind of music do u play? Sometimes when ur playing heavy and fast music u cant help but play hard, especially live. I break a lot of cymbals, but thats probably because im six foot three and weigh 285 and I lift a lot of weights. But when i play live my adrenaline is flowing which means im gunna hit a lot harder than if i am just practicing
uhstud68 2 years ago
control that overtone on the snare
andrewdrums175 2 years ago
probs the best b8 cymbals on the market, they should be, they are the most expensive lol
SuperDrummerJoe 2 years ago
Paiste 2002.
AAMetalXJON 2 years ago
2002 are b8?
SuperDrummerJoe 2 years ago
Yep, Paiste 2002 are made from B8 Metal. As are Rudes and Alphas.
AAMetalXJON 2 years ago
i did not know that in which case 2002 are better
SuperDrummerJoe 2 years ago
chinas a bit washy, but other than that a great set of cymbals
anarcy7777u 2 years ago
i agree with Skutieos...its just people trying to sound like they know a little about drums.
this kit is one of the best kits i've heard.
all heil TAMA :D lol
CYMBALS SOUND GREAT!!
Tamadrummer11 2 years ago
The snare sounds great. In all of these videos with him playing people are like "LOL SNARE SUCKZ OVERTONES" and it pisses me off. First of all, there's barely any overtones, and second, without overtones a snare would sound boring. A little dampening is ok, but if you just eliminate all overtones it will sound generic and boring!
Skutieos7 2 years ago 3
Agreed. Your snare will sound stupid and boring if it's muffled all the way. I love his snare. It's the perfect balance.
C95R95M 2 years ago
I love the overtones on this snare
Whoever said they suck are retards
wiirluvenit 2 years ago
felix...du wahnsinns-kerl
MrMaximumMusic 2 years ago
that high pitch overtone on the snare is killing me haha
drummerathlete7 2 years ago 48
Yeah
fallloftroy 2 years ago
@drummerathlete7 some people like it
mrpaddywagon 1 year ago
@drummerathlete7 what are you talking about... the snare sounds amazing
jondrumming 1 year ago 15
@jondrumming only explanation is listening on crap speakers
bcoklay2 4 months ago
@jondrumming yes it douse but you must not be hearing the overtone
mrboverbro 3 months ago
@drummerathlete7 No kidding. God forbid that actually get put into a recording.
Spasm13 1 year ago
@drummerathlete7 untrained ears.
drummer4life2014 1 year ago
too plain too rock and roll
lutherrrr 2 years ago 4
Mcs is better because Hcs is out of messing
Massapulmai 2 years ago 5
meinl mcs i think, they sound really good
kolancoleman 2 years ago 3
meinl mcs of hcs? wich one is better
fuvk50400 2 years ago
Mcs.
chrian31410 2 years ago
nice, burt the china sucks
KostasDontis 2 years ago
do the hcs and mcs cymbals
dvs133 2 years ago
its better if they don't, cause the HCS cymbals suck, i know cause i own em
rockthehouse23 2 years ago
dose anyone recomend this or mb10 for a metal and rock player? i want to upgrade my cymbals
zayz505 2 years ago
i would say that the mb8s are the cheapest and best sounding in the meinl range
thrashmetalteen 2 years ago
mb8 crashes have more proyection, the mb10 in metal are poor
Drakhai 2 years ago
i heard the mb10 ride (20") in a music store in ireland, its sounds good for metal and rock the bell espesially
JVC7400 2 years ago
i'm thinking of buying MB 8 19" medium crash
JVC7400 2 years ago
I have the 18", it's SWEET.
sumstufflol 2 years ago 2
0:11 lol someone is lurking in front of the drumset....
They sound alright.
not a huge fan of the hats.
Wolfparade51 2 years ago
those would be the shit for hard rock and metal. awsome. if i still played heavy i would get those. they do not sound "cheap".
loosenutlambert 2 years ago
Hannibu:well, thats true, also alex van halen use b8 cymbals
epiphoneylp 2 years ago
The MB8 Series from meinl are real metal cymbals and they sound awesome
clarityria 2 years ago
i was thinkin about gettin some soundcaster customs, does any body know what they sound like or know any thing about them?
anarcy7777u 2 years ago
I have a soundcaster custom power crash 19" I LOVE it it's very glassy and explosive
wiirluvenit 2 years ago
they break easy
Meatlooaf 2 years ago
That's nonsense.
If you break them easily, you should improve your playing technique.
Most of the cymbals are ruined by bad technique.
Of course they are percussion instruments, but that does not mean you can smash on them like an anvil
Hannibu 2 years ago
wansnt talking bout mb8's . lol i was talking about brass cymbals, altho i havent broken a cymbal ever ,
Meatlooaf 2 years ago
pretty decent cymbals. But if ur not willing to go high end meinls atleast get mb10 they sound as great as they look
Drummerguy6666 2 years ago
funky
SlaughteringMooses 2 years ago
The cymbals sound so smooth and are not like some other ones i've heard that are just loud and do not sound right for the song.
beamer891 2 years ago
great sound!! Didn´t like the 18 crash, but the rest is very very good.
PabloLeChuck 2 years ago
I'd love to own these cymbals but they'd cost an arm and a leg xD
BCDPRODUCTIONS1234 2 years ago
they are not very expensive or where you being sarcastic?
moose
drummerboy7227 2 years ago
They're expensive, without sarcasm
BCDPRODUCTIONS1234 2 years ago
in the uk they are not expensive from a drum shop near me.but don't know what the prices are in different countries.
moose
drummerboy7227 2 years ago
ive seen them for around £500 for high hats, crash and ride, thats expensive
BCDPRODUCTIONS1234 2 years ago
they go like 625 - 650 USD in the internet
JVC7400 2 years ago
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JVC7400 2 years ago
wow those sound great
kyleoldach 2 years ago
amazingg
scottbennettdrumming 2 years ago
GO MEINL! Meinl is <33 :)
biancabaterna1 2 years ago
oh yeah !!
GirlDrummerTH 2 years ago
this beats sabians B8 series...GO MEINL!!
PB0277 2 years ago
well you should more compare them with the sabian apx, beacuase b8 are beginner cymbals
Smokingjoe88 2 years ago
Yeah, B8 cymbals are absolute shit. I think I'm going to invest in a Vault set and maybe an extra china, probably 18". Either that or some Mb20's.
WoWintosh 2 years ago
no i mean the cymbal series sabian b8, they are beginner cymbals
sabian apx are also b8 material cymbals, but better because of the way they are produced!
sabian vault or meinl mb20s? two very different cymbal series!!
you seem to know nothing about them
mb20 are quite thick cymbals and vor heavy music
vaults are very thin cymbals!
two compeletely different sounds
Smokingjoe88 2 years ago
personally id go with the vaults
NickoMcBrainRulez 2 years ago
I know many people, including myself, that have broken Sabian's a big to quickly. Meinl has been the only brand of cymbals I haven't cracked/completely fucked up in the first three months.
To each his own!
ZMatrix 2 years ago
That is nonsense.
The Paiste 2002 are also made of B8 bronze.
No one would say, that they are beginner cymbals. Go and ask drummers like Phil Rudd (AC/DC), Ian Paice (Deep Purple), Mickey Dee (Motorhead) to name a view of hundreds who use B8 cymbals.
There are B8 beginners cymbals that sound crappy. But they are B20 cymbals that also sound like shit.
Hannibu 2 years ago 34
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Well, you can almost make any cymbal sound good with a good mic.
danthman44444 2 years ago
Just my 2 cents to this:
Shit in Shit out!
Paraidomat 2 years ago
@Hannibu but the thing is Paiste sucks
Hammy0924 1 year ago
@Hammy0924 you haven't been drumming long enough..you're ignorance is showing bro...you have a lot to learn.
tony13fg 1 year ago
@tony13fg I have 4 friends that are way better than me at drumming and they hate Paiste too. And I'm not just going with what they say, because I had them at one point and they sucked, and they weren't the inexpensive ones.
Hammy0924 1 year ago
@Hannibu I wouldn't compare Phil Rudd to those drummers, because he kinda sucks...really bad (nothing against ACDC though)
Hammy0924 1 year ago
@Hammy0924
You have really no idea of drumming. The grooves Phil Rudd plays may look easy, on the first sight. But playing them exactly that they fit to the music is the art.
Playing Blues may also appear simple. But playing it musically is very difficult.
The comment "Paiste sucks" indicates that you suck. You don't know nothing at all.
There are Paiste cymbals that are really exellent (2002, Giant Beat, Signature) and others that sound like a garbage can lid e. g. 101, PST3.
Hannibu 1 year ago 3
@Hannibu The whole "paiste sucks" thing is long gone. I actually like them well now. I'm just saying he sucks compared to the other artists that were mentioned
Hammy0924 1 year ago
@Hannibu Mickey Dee uses all signatures, which are basically B16 cymbals. Paiste has admitted that no matter how much work you put into a cymbal, it'll never sound better than a cast B20 cymbal.
ShittyMcPoopyBalls 5 months ago
@Hannibu what is the difference between these and the mcs series????????
ajcf1995 5 months ago
@ajcf1995
The MCS cymbals are not hammered. They are pressed in forms.
The Mb8 are computerized hammered.
Hannibu 5 months ago
@Hannibu they why do beginner cymbals made of b8 CRACK SO MUCH??? does anybody know why they do?!!!
ajcf1995 4 months ago
@ajcf1995 cause there's very little tin put in them its almost all copper and since copper if fairy weak .....they break the more tin a cymbal has with its copper the more musical stronger and expensive it will be plus the stronger ones are tempered and casted better their kinda like how the blade of a good sword is made
johnditmo 3 months ago
@ajcf1995 Beginner cymbals are also usually made thicker. For example, an mb8 medium cymbal is probably going to be thicker than a Byzance medium cymbal. The higher quality metals are also more flexible, meaning they are less likely to crack since they move around more and absorb shock for evenly. But what Hannibu said is right too, bad technique can make a huge difference.
tbdrummer2 1 month ago in playlist Drummer Felix M. Lehrmann
lol no kiding...anything beats b8's ...not anything..but almost!
infectiousfiles 2 years ago