Special theory of relativity was designed to explain why c is constant through all frames of reference. The whole reason why time varies with velocity is because it was a way of explaining the nature of the speed of light being constant at any reference point. No one is taking you seriously except creationists who are scientificly inept
Carbon dating and half lives have nothing to do with his argument! He says that 4.5m years here is 6k years in space..
2: (against)
You assume that there is nothing between us and the star that is 13.5 billion years away that effects the amount of time it takes for the light to travel here..
3: (against)
You say light can travel 2.2m times faster in low gravity.. How did you come up with this particular number? I've seen nothing in the theory to support this number..
Umm... you know that in the previous video, you equated rate of time with gravitational force/ constant, whatever that was? Improve your mathematics and physics sir, before you make silly suggestions. Limits is not the only thing calculus has to offer- in order to know relativity, learn differential geometry.
So you have the equations for gravitational time dilation. Excellent. Now - and this is the important part of using science - check your claims by calculating their consequences. I did. For 13.5 BY to have gone by in space while 6000 years went by here, the earth would have to be about 718 million times heaver than we know it to be. It would be on the cusp of being a black hole. You MUST calculate consequences. People would weigh dozens of tons on earth.
Trust me, if you rtesearch further it will blow your mind! I congratulate you on trying to support your religious beliefs and I hope that you find the right answers but this argument is weak
Also, you say that the earth has a different passage of time than space. You cannot generalise like that, any point in space that is moving with the same relative constant velocity as the earth and the same gravitation will expeience the same time frame as here!
Hi, I'm sorry that you do not have a deep enough understanding of relativity. All of the measurements that have been made to discover the age of things on this planet have been made within the earths space/time as it is now and not by observation of the stars
JesusDisciple777 you are a fool. a wise man once said don't argue with fools because people from a distance can't tell who is who. You ever heard of einstiens big blunder genius? Just cause he says something doesnt make it fact.
13 billion years in space is not 13 billion years on earth. Correct, but you're wrong about the numbers. The warping of spacetime that the earth generates just isn't large enough. It only comes out to approximately ONE PART IN A BILLION difference in the flow of time. Even if the numbers worked, it wouldn't explain how things ON EARTH could be older than 6000 years. This whole YEC thing just falls apart. It's so inconsistent.
Potassium-argon and Carbon 14 dating are very unreliable. This has been proven time and time again. Prove to me that one object on this earth is over 6,000 years old.
Time dilation is very real sure almost everything is a theory. But time dilation is just as real as evolution. It is a basic principle that our whole existence relies on, otherwise all of our laws of physics are pretty much fucked.
You are of course right about the time dilation, but you are wrong about it's effects. Yes, gravity slows time, but this effect is noticeable (in human senses) only in very strong gravity fields, like near black holes.
If there were such time dilation that would cause Earth being 6000 years old while rest of the universe being 13,7 billion years old, it would be easily observable. We don't see anything like that. Time runs roughly at same rate everywhere.
it can be noticed between time in mountains and time at sea level. thats only a couple thousand feet. how far away do you have to go to get out of the earth's atmosphere? 62 miles?
Actually Earth's atmosphere continues up to 200-300 km, that 62 miles (or 100 km) is artificial limit. You missed my point, we humans do not notice the sligth time difference between sea level and mountain top, you need an atom clock to "see" the difference, we are talking about femtoseconds.
ya, but you're talking about on earth where the differences are only thousands of feet. im going to make a video, hopefully soon showing the numbers. but in outer space outside of being caught in any gravitational fields, time goes extremely fast. just wait for my new video on it.
Special theory of relativity was designed to explain why c is constant through all frames of reference. The whole reason why time varies with velocity is because it was a way of explaining the nature of the speed of light being constant at any reference point. No one is taking you seriously except creationists who are scientificly inept
TheFaceOfJohnPants 1 year ago
You seem relatively confused (pun intended) about special and general theory of relativity, and cosmology.
TheFaceOfJohnPants 1 year ago
1: (for his argument)
Carbon dating and half lives have nothing to do with his argument! He says that 4.5m years here is 6k years in space..
2: (against)
You assume that there is nothing between us and the star that is 13.5 billion years away that effects the amount of time it takes for the light to travel here..
3: (against)
You say light can travel 2.2m times faster in low gravity.. How did you come up with this particular number? I've seen nothing in the theory to support this number..
JesterAzazel 2 years ago
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JesterAzazel 2 years ago
@mrtaxel Dating methods of any kind are extremely reliable!! Half lives don't change at all and there are many objects that are over 6000 years old!
Abundanceieri 2 years ago
Umm... you know that in the previous video, you equated rate of time with gravitational force/ constant, whatever that was? Improve your mathematics and physics sir, before you make silly suggestions. Limits is not the only thing calculus has to offer- in order to know relativity, learn differential geometry.
Abundanceieri 2 years ago
So you have the equations for gravitational time dilation. Excellent. Now - and this is the important part of using science - check your claims by calculating their consequences. I did. For 13.5 BY to have gone by in space while 6000 years went by here, the earth would have to be about 718 million times heaver than we know it to be. It would be on the cusp of being a black hole. You MUST calculate consequences. People would weigh dozens of tons on earth.
Bozeman42 2 years ago 4
Trust me, if you rtesearch further it will blow your mind! I congratulate you on trying to support your religious beliefs and I hope that you find the right answers but this argument is weak
zhuilkj 3 years ago
Also, you say that the earth has a different passage of time than space. You cannot generalise like that, any point in space that is moving with the same relative constant velocity as the earth and the same gravitation will expeience the same time frame as here!
zhuilkj 3 years ago
Hi, I'm sorry that you do not have a deep enough understanding of relativity. All of the measurements that have been made to discover the age of things on this planet have been made within the earths space/time as it is now and not by observation of the stars
zhuilkj 3 years ago
JesusDisciple777 you are a fool. a wise man once said don't argue with fools because people from a distance can't tell who is who. You ever heard of einstiens big blunder genius? Just cause he says something doesnt make it fact.
kenny8331 3 years ago
13 billion years in space is not 13 billion years on earth. Correct, but you're wrong about the numbers. The warping of spacetime that the earth generates just isn't large enough. It only comes out to approximately ONE PART IN A BILLION difference in the flow of time. Even if the numbers worked, it wouldn't explain how things ON EARTH could be older than 6000 years. This whole YEC thing just falls apart. It's so inconsistent.
DADShadowFox 3 years ago
" ON EARTH could be older than 6000 years. This whole YEC thing just falls apart. It's so inconsistent."
That is absured creationist have explained how things look "old" via Acellered nuclear Decay
kut77less 3 years ago
Potassium-argon and Carbon 14 dating are very unreliable. This has been proven time and time again. Prove to me that one object on this earth is over 6,000 years old.
mrtraxel 3 years ago
"Potassium-argon and Carbon 14 dating are very unreliable. This has been proven time and time again."
Wrong.
DADShadowFox 3 years ago
Also, dendochronology, which is used to calibrate carbon dating goes back like 11000 years.
watch?v=aLFKM886l4Q
DADShadowFox 3 years ago
Time dilation is very real sure almost everything is a theory. But time dilation is just as real as evolution. It is a basic principle that our whole existence relies on, otherwise all of our laws of physics are pretty much fucked.
bob1qaz 3 years ago
By using the formula for gravitational time dilation I get that there is no significant diffrent bewteen time on earth than between galaxies :S
Portiadude 4 years ago
i saw the message you left. you didnt even almost do it right. wait to see the video im going to have on it.
JesusDisciple777 4 years ago
You are of course right about the time dilation, but you are wrong about it's effects. Yes, gravity slows time, but this effect is noticeable (in human senses) only in very strong gravity fields, like near black holes.
If there were such time dilation that would cause Earth being 6000 years old while rest of the universe being 13,7 billion years old, it would be easily observable. We don't see anything like that. Time runs roughly at same rate everywhere.
Saukko31 4 years ago 2
it can be noticed between time in mountains and time at sea level. thats only a couple thousand feet. how far away do you have to go to get out of the earth's atmosphere? 62 miles?
JesusDisciple777 4 years ago
Actually Earth's atmosphere continues up to 200-300 km, that 62 miles (or 100 km) is artificial limit. You missed my point, we humans do not notice the sligth time difference between sea level and mountain top, you need an atom clock to "see" the difference, we are talking about femtoseconds.
Saukko31 4 years ago
ya, but you're talking about on earth where the differences are only thousands of feet. im going to make a video, hopefully soon showing the numbers. but in outer space outside of being caught in any gravitational fields, time goes extremely fast. just wait for my new video on it.
JesusDisciple777 4 years ago
that is because the unvirse got bigger since the creation so the effects of time dilation is weaker then it was 6000 years.
So this is a straw man argument
kut77less 3 years ago
Wrong, we know that billions of years have passed on Earth, my video: watch?v=5aCgajML9tQ
Saukko31 3 years ago
Um I was talking about starlight and time dilation
kut77less 3 years ago
Yes, and we know that it's effects are minimal on Earth, and always have been.
Saukko31 3 years ago