G1: The Return of Optimus Prime: Part 1: Act 3

[Hakuron25]

Hope that The Expandables 3 includes Optimus Prime! ;)

[zengetsu7]

wtf? Rodimus was already red before wreck gar touched him. Dude, if you ask me, I think ultra magnus has some issues with rodimus prime. 

[Bremen25]

@zengetsu7 he definitely does. Magnus was supposed to be the chosen one, and little Hot Rod got instead.

[TheScorpionMK37]

It took me awhile to realise skylinks is british and I think a little bit of australlian.

[TomiTheLoneWolf]

It's alive! It's alive!

[H770907]

thumbs up if this episode reminds you of 28 days later

[spacebullseye]

That Quintesson looked like he was about to pee his pants, lol.

[Typhlosionrider]

Well exuuuuse me,princes

[MattytheMOCer]

Can skylinx change his size? coz im pretty sure the quintessons couldnt fit inside him in robot mode..

[GoGojiraGo]

@MattytheMOCer As Transformers Wiki states so eloquently, "Scale in Transformers is, not to put too fine a point on it, screwed."

No series has ever consistently kept true to scale, and G1 was the worst offender.

[Jerry11606]

2:00 did that helicopter just fly INSIDE of a plane!?

[JediPrime7]

"The World needs a leader now!" - How I wish Optimus Prime really lived...

[1983Airstrike]

@JediPrime7 Optimus Prime does live!!! his name is Peter Cullens.

[AeonMagnus]

@1983Airstrike Peter Cullen is a human voice actor. If he's Optimus Prime in real life, then he's also Eeyore and KARR in real life.

[shooba]

4:04 what a moment in cartoon history

[TransFormersDOTM11]

hey before wreckgar tough rodimus, rodimus was already red

[TransFormersDOTM11]

hey before wreckgar touch rodimus, rodimus was already red

[HellsGladiator]

Optimus was originally Orion pax. However, Orion was injured, the Aerobots went back in time, saving Orion. Alpha Trion rebuilt Orion Pax into Optimus, as did he Lita One. Orion Pax had already been constructed as the upstart Autobot leader.

Primus had something to do with it, however that is FAR too long to type out.

[MrNoturaveragerednek]

I thought that Optimus Prime was built by Alpha Trion, who rebuilt a robot called Orion packs to become the first Autobot defender.

[Cridant1]

@MrNoturaveragerednek Orion packs was built by somone though, and prime does remember being Orion.

[ultrad27]

Oh no! Optimus Prime has turned his attention to conquering the Earth and no force in the universe can stop him!

[klevry1]

@ 1:23 rodimus looks like he has the plague, before redgar.

[Primus2X]

1:23 Rodimus is already red

[ARDCOREARNIE]

i prefer ultra magnus like this

[ifba100]

i want to be infected and use it on my sister!

[DukeofColumbia]

Interesting how Magnus is batshit crazy under the Hate Plague.

The Transformers wiki article for this episode had some of Magnus's quotes and noted he was . . . In virus veritas (latin for . . In venom [or poison] there is truth) indeed.

[ifnsman]

Optimus: "...And this time, no force in the universe can stop me."

Sounds like something a villain would say...

[Dstorm20xx]

1:51

No! not headstrong!

[sirroger11]

lol in middle of fight random guy beating up others

other guy:wtf ur not even infected

random guy:ye i know i just thought it wod be cool to fight besides i just wanted to be part of the group

[matta428naruto2]

It's s there's now words. Excepted he back. Primes back.

[Forzaabruzzo]

Why is it Sky Lynx is a massive aircraft when rescuing the quintessons, but in the next scene where they're working to revive Optimus he's marginally bigger than them?

[AeonMagnus]

Because scale consistency was not a high priority in G1.

[Forzaabruzzo]

@AeonMagnus

Well it damn well should've been! You'd think that Michael Bay was directing the animated series as well :P

[AeonMagnus]

@Forzaabruzzo Whatever else it might be, the Movieverse is one of the most scale and mass-consistent/preserving incarnations.

[halieus56]

@Forzaabruzzo Or the helicopter that flies through an airliner door at 1:58?

[johnedsel]

This was the 2nd most badly thought out piece of blasphemous bullshit ever to disgrace the g1 series. The 1st being Rebirth (caca) which completely missed the point of the 'Headmasters' as smaller robots becoming the bodies heads. IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE THEY'RE IN A LITTLE FUCKING CONTROL ROOM!!!

[Inikalord]

@johnedsel You do realise that The Rebirth came first, then The Headmasters Cartoon?

The Headmasters was based off The Rebirth.

[johnedsel]

@Inikalord

Wrong. The Western market needed to wrap up the G1 series as [the brand] was dying off. However, in Japan they created their own continuity to sell toys as TF was still going strong. Takara Headmasters is set right after Return of Optimus Prime finale of season 3. Ignoring Rebirth,they felt Convoy (Prime) needed to die again as they were never happy with the way he came back. That's the beef I have: I was all for him returning, but the story was awful and full of plot holes. Fail

[johnedsel]

@Inikalord

Takara Headmasters aired July 3rd, 1987

Rebirth aired November 9th, 1987.

[AeonMagnus]

@johnedsel There we go - didn't even air first.

[johnedsel]

@AeonMagnus

Well said, my friend. I've tried to enjoy season 3 but I just can't. The stories are written by chimps and the cartoons are animated by AKOM. Any TF fan worth his salt should know that they [AKOM] probably destroyed the franchise in the west, because the toys were still cool, but viewers left in droves when they saw how badly their heroes were being rendered. The Japanese love Transformers as they love their robots and lots of fighting.

[Inikalord]

@johnedsel True, the brand was losing its popularity mostly due to AKOM and their cheap asses not working hard enough the animate the cartoons right. But there have been instances where AKOM didn't produce a few epsodes like "Call of The Primatives" which was done by an unknown studio group but had great animation, just not that good of a plot to it. I agree that Season 3 wasnt up to par with the previous 2 seasons, most time you hear Rodimus sounding depressed about being Leader of The Autobots

[Inikalord]

@AeonMagnus I guess we learn something new everyday

[AeonMagnus]

@Inikalord Rebirth may well have been _produced_ first, but that doesn't mean it precedes Headmasters in continuity. If you'd watched both, you'd realize the two were basically incompatible. The very nature of the Headmasters and Targetmasters is completely different, especially their origin stories, which unfolded before us in Rebirth, and told through flashbacks (and in the case of the Targetmasters, within the events of the show) in "Headmasters".

[Astraldragon1]

Skylinks::There's no time left for mistakes the world needs a leader Now!

Quint:Once again we are ready.

Quint: But if this doesn't work Optimus Prime will Never Live Again.

Skylinks:Optimus?

Quint: I've done it OPTIMUS PRIME LIVES!!!

Skylinks: It's true our leader is Back.

Optimus:Yes Skylinks and this time no force in the Universe can stop me.

[jetfire4321]

i have question were are the dinobots

[MegamanCollector14]

thanks for uploading this aeon magnus.

[dt4evar]

poor roddy =C

[GalvaWalken8]

Frankly, no... I don't think Rodimus wanted to be a pepper too.

[GalvaWalken8]

0:09 - 0:11

Lucky for Rodimus, Magnus didn't try to infect him here.

[imaginator]

i love how Rodimus shoots Ultra Magnus. So fast and decisive

[xxEvilOrgasmxx]

optimus was more damaged before he was recovered by those two humans. in the episode before this, he had one arm and his eye was messed up. and his ship exploded!! but now it explodes after he is recovered???

[AeonMagnus]

Welcome to the continuity of G1.

Or lack thereof.

[Evilthought03]

Dude optimus doesnt accept death lol

[theprimo100]

woooohhhhoooo!optimus isalive, great!hasbro, you retards, why did he get blasted in the first place?

[AeonMagnus]

As with the other deaths and reformattings, his toy was no longer available.

[themegashyguy]

ultra magnus didnt just go mad he went completly and utterly INSANE!!!!!!!!!!

[michelrpg]

the sharkticons werent supposed to be infected... they were still rebelling. How the hell would the plague (which started on earth) have reached the sharkticons which, by skylynx's own words;"are in hiding in the far reaches of the galaxy".

[chran1138]

2 thoughts: shouldent metroplex of caught the plague when UM wen't inside? thats still touching him, from the inside. and why isent the matrix currupted now too? or is it?

[legofan1006]

1:21 you see that rodimus is already red before wreck-gar touches him, another blunder by g1.

[wpbigbang07]

I'm a pepper do you want to be a pepper too? thats classic funny

[Kuku1123]

IT WAS A ACCIDENT XD LMAO

[Megaman053]

1:22 rodimus is red

[bluemaxof]

PRIME IS BACK, the shit is realy going to hit the fan now...

[stinkysnak7]

is UM and Optimus bros ?

[AeonMagnus]

In some G1 comic book continuities, but not in the G1 cartoon continuity.

[stinkysnak7]

yea but that makes me wonder why UM has primes model without UMs armor on that weird

[AeonMagnus]

Ultra Magnus is a remold of Optimus Prime. That doesn't make them brothers. Prowl, Bluestreak and Smokescreen were the same mold. Sideswipe and Red Alert, etc.

Ultra Magnus was never shown as being the smaller inner robot until recently. In the cartoon and most other media, he was only shown as the larger robot.

[In the Diaclone toy series that became Transformers, Powered Convoy, the toy that would become Ultra Magnus was an upgraded version of Battle Convoy, who became Optimus Prime.]

[PraiseYeshua]

Actually in the old Dreamwave Comic books, Ultra Magnus and Optimus were brothers.

[AeonMagnus]

Yes, as I said.

[ashleytisdale2468]

wheres ultra magnus

[AeonMagnus]

That's him there at Metroplex, chasing down Rodimus Prime.

[SadCarnage1224]

lol ultra magnus caught the cooties xD

[27lover]

jolly good show lol

[Stressnotic]

people talk bad about Hot rod/rodimus like ultra magnus did any better, the autobots did alot of running under his watch, he was the worst leader, he wanted the position less than hot rod did....they blew him to pieces from what i can remember, and took the matrix....who else was going to lead the autobots, which most of them weren't warriors like decepticons were, they were mostly medics and scientist and peaceful robots

[bennyenglish]

Yeah but Ultra magnus took over one the autobots had no cybertron...autobot city was wreaked and alot of there warriors where killed. Under those circumstances he did pretty well espically as he made sure he died before any of his troops which is a good sign of leadership. imagen if he had cybertron and autobot city running well before taking over like rodimus did.

[Vakama95096]

This is madness

[Juliapopstar]

Madness? THIS. IS. TRANFORMERS!!!!! XD

[darkmagickian]

Life on Cybertron was metallic/mechanical in nature as opposed to carbon-based. They had societal evolution, mental capacity, emotions, and a means of reproduction (!). Their technological advances were SIMILAR to ours, in that they had Quantum/Dimensional physics and computer capabilities. Medical tech, although simlar to humans (arms/legs, electrical nervous system, rational thought) differed as far as injuries go, They are more akin to human machinery, like cars and computers.

[budmaloney]

" no force in the universe can stop me" The quints revived a very arrogant Optimus. haha ,I guess he didn't see the headmaster's . but awesome episode, best of season 3

[darkmagickian]

His last memories were of the Matrix transfer, his people, and the fight with Megatron, to whom I think he was referring when he made this statement, all from the '86 movie. DR SMOOV on youtube created a parody follow-up to this episode which summed up the fan sentiment almost precisely, I highly recommend it.

[komoonshine]

ha at 1:22 Rodimus is infected before he was touched

[ARDCOREARNIE]

ha yeh i was just bout 2 put that!

[warriorking4ever]

how can these spores affect the autobots and decepticons if they're inorganic lifeforms rather than flesh and blood?

[AeonMagnus]

Because they're cartoon spores infecting cartoon characters.

[ShinoShaw]

hahahahaha

[BXmuffslayer]

Because technically, All transformers are Organic Cybernotic Robots.

[AeonMagnus]

Transformers aren't organic.

[BXmuffslayer]

theyve always have been organic mechanisms, thats how people would pick up life form readings on their ships with no humans on board, or how they have emotions,get out of breath, feel pain, etc.

[AeonMagnus]

They were never organic, not until they became technorganic, which was the entire point of Beast Machines.

They even say it in the first 10 seconds of the very first episode: "not life as we know it today. Intelligent robots that could think and feel inhabited the cities." If they were part organic, they'd be "Cyborgs", like the GoBots.

tfwiki. net/wiki/Transformer

They have emotions, etc because they've been anthropomorphized to make kids care about them and make them actually interesting.

[ahsankhan306]

their playing tag

[AvEryBadApPLe]

how the hell the sharkticons got infected, lol???

[galva07]

That's a very good question. I've always wondered that myself.

[AvEryBadApPLe]

besides contact, the madness is apparently able to travel millions of light years away, too.

[AeonMagnus]

The spores were released by a star going nova. I would be surprised if 100% of them landed on the scientists' ship.

[ThomasFuchs7]

A Scientists infect Autobots leads to B They infect others beginning with Superion and Defensor leads to C they infect Decepticons and Humans leads to C some fly into space and infact more including Quntessons and others? leads to D Quntessons infect Sharkticons.

But why do the combiners work together instead of destroying each other?

[darkmagickian]

Force of habit, long association, reflex action, like-mindedness, strength in numbers, nothing better to do, choose your best answer...

[bl4ckw1ngz64]

Notice a Dr. Pepper reference?

[Orumon27]

The thing about this excellent episode wasn't the plot. It was the ending.

It almost made up for a season without Optimus (almost)

[optimusprime209]

" well excuuuuuuuuuuse us. lol. reminds me of link from the zelda cartoon series.

[vindigga6]

i always loved how the sizes were always off in this show lol one second one autobot would be huge as hell next he'd be the same size as the others and vise versa X D

[StandAloner]

2:06 They aren't infected, that's just another day in the city!

[chevyflipper]

its funny as hell to see a bunch of people beating the hell out of each other with sticks in a future with laser guns roddimus sucks

[francisalec]

1:22

rodimus is already red XD

[CybertronNews22]

How did the hate plauge get all the way out into the far reaches of space where it can affect the sharkticons?

[ShadowSonic2]

Decepticons and Autobots who can go to space on their own.

[CybertronNews22]

Guess you're right.

[MDthornton83]

Through transformers who were capable of out world flight.

[CybertronNews22]

The ones capable were SkyLynx, Galvatron, Cyclonus, Scourge, the Sweeps, Astrotrain, Omega Supreme, and Cosmos. Unicron, if you count him drifting through space. It's a possiblity that Combaticon, who's name escapes me at the moment, that transformed into a space shuttle, like Astrotrain, could also fly out into space even though it was never shown, but he probably could anyway. Then in the Japanese continuity, there were a alot more transformers that could fly through space, whose names idk.

[MDthornton83]

And speaking of the hate plague, I once read somewhere that some people believed this to be the inspiration for a similar hate plague from the movie 28 Days Later and it's sequel; 28 Weeks Later. But I think the inspiration for the rage virus in that movie was inspired by a 70s film called "Rabid".

[CybertronNews22]

Wherever it came from, I like the idea alot. But some people. think that The Return of Optimus Prime two-parter could have done without the hate plague. What do you think?

[MDthornton83]

Well, personally, I think the hate plague played a significant role in resulting in Prime's return. In my opinion, had the plague not occured at all, the autobots probably wouldn't bother to revive him and would just put his body somewhere were he would rest in peace. I'd prefer Optimus to be back in action again.

[CybertronNews22]

So would I. I like Optimus way better as leader than Rodimus. Besides, what's Transformers without Prime, right? Answer: Go-Bots.

[MDthornton83]

True. Of course I have nothing against Rodimus. I mean he's not perfect, but he's okay in terms of being leader. But it just wouldn't be the same if Optimus was gone for good. One thing I would have loved to see would be for Optimus and Rodimus to develop a student/mentor relation with eachother. Maybe that way, Rodimus would learn to grow and mature a little more. After all, we must learn from the best if we are to progress.

[CybertronNews22]

That student/mentor idea of yours is a very good idea. I could have been done if Transformers didn't end so quickly in the US.

[primerodimus1]

@MDthornton83 Yes, Rodimus never had an opportunity to learn from Optimus. The events of "Transformers: The Movie" threw him right into the position as leader without any real training. And, until The Hate Plague, Rodimus did a phenomenal job as leader; he had to deal with upgraded Decepticons like Galvatron, Cyclonus, and Scourge (along with an armada of Cyclonus and Scourge clones) and the Quintessons. I think that over time he may have evolved into a better leader than Optimus.

[primerodimus1]

@MDthornton83 Optimus had an unfortunate tendency to be too compassionate for his own and everyone else's good. It actually costed him his life and a strong chance to end the war during the Battle of Autobot City. Rodimus is a character who people can identify with more than Optimus because he's not perfect--he's stubborn, headstrong, and full of self-doubt, and that's why he's my favorite Autobot.

[MDthornton83]

@primerodimus1 I agree with everything you said in your comment. I will always have a fondness and respect for Optimus, but Rodimus needs love two. Besides, as you said, Rodimus's personality is more realistically written with the way he struggles with his position as leader, and is full of self doubt. In my point of view, Rodimus is like an ordinary highschool kid who dropped out of school to join the army, and gets more than he asked for.

[cyberpsygen7]

i know its petty, but my problem with the hate plague is the transmission from organic to robotic. "spores" would have no effect on robots, since they don't have skin or lungs to absorb them and stuff.

like i said, i know its petty, but i would prefer them to have been alien nanomachine clusters or something that could feasibly apply to robots.

[ndw444]

it's blast off

[CybertronNews22]

That's what it is. Thanks.

[darkmagickian]

The Combaticon combination is called Bruticus.

[CybertronNews22]

Yes, we know that. Your point?

[tubenewbie22]

That's a little ominous: "No force in the Universe can stop me". Isn't Skylynx supposed to be too big for getting into normal rooms, let alone cramped little labs?

[Gurahk2]

Remind me, again! Who says "Well, excuse me/us!"?

[darkmagickian]

US Comedian Steve Martin

[Gurahk2]

"I'm a pepper. Would you like to be a pepper too." That's good! Where'd he get that from?

[CynixBox]

Old Dr.Pepper soda commericials

[Gurahk2]

That's cool!

[DisheveledWombat]

Those Decepticons are casually walking around because when have they had the chance to do some sightseeing and have some general free time? Between fighting the Autobots, trying not to have Galvatron go nuts on you, and looking for energy, it's a busy lifestyle. Crisis be damned, they want to make some memories of their time on Earth!

Do you think Sky Lynx ever curses his creator for making him into an abomination who sounds like a homosexual Englishman?

[darkmagickian]

Even comic book supervillains need R&R between "jobs" and evil plans...being evil 24/7 is tiring and thankless work and the Decepticons are no exception, although what constitutes recreation for them may differ for them what it does for us humans.

[MarkC18]

My favorite moment of G1!

[Gurahk2]

What is?

[MarkC18]

Prime's Ressurection

[Airhammer]

Very nice!

The only thing I question about this part of the episode, is why are Decepticons who are not infected, casually walking about an Earth city during a crisis?

[darkmagickian]

Actually, they were searching for a place to hide before being found out and inected.