Mig-105 Launch from 50/50 Spacecraft.

[silentfisher67]

веселые картинки с потугами на великодержавие.ничего подобного в России нет и не будет.а вот в США есть и развивается.вы не тот логотип нарисовали клоуны

[truthfull11]

fake

[misterpeaky]

Great stuff! Respect!

[L1011Widebody]

0:21

Would the wings really wobble like it's in a cross-breeze like that in space?

[Armigo91]

if you only just summarize the technologies it had stolen from germany (russia to btw) you can make a summary long as the laundry list of your local laundry.

So i know its just to mock others for fun (or not)

its a really wrong attitude to say others steal while its written in history books that any country practices copys of other countries designs.

[Armigo91]

world had rockets.

If russia manages to construct a triangle rocket next year, whole the world including the usa would have triangle rockets. (triangle rockets, it makes no sense, and thats why i said it) because saying a technology or design is stolen makes just as little sense as you could expect it to be copied as has been done for thousands of years.

Not to mention that the USA is the guiness book record holder for copied technologies.

[Armigo91]

A rocket is a rocket. If a american company builds a rocket (or a plane) then dont be surprised that if russia builds a rocket. that it euhm.... welll.... euhm.... that it might surprisingly look the same.

Not to mention that technologys have always circulated troughout the world. When the musket was invented, whole of europe, america, china, india had muskets (and many other coutnries)

When the car was invented, all countries in the world had cars.

When the rocket was invented, all the

[Biogem369]

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[gladio4ever]

So ... another russian attempt to copy american technology by use of espionage, which failed - just like the Buran space shuttle ?

Or am I missing something?

[spacemooseireland]

@gladio4ever Yes you are missing something alright, the Mig-105 was not copying American technology but their own version of the X-20 Dyna soar, completely made up from scratch. It is a great pity it got cancelled. If you use that standard of copying you can say that the Mercury Space program was a copy of the Vostok Space Program.

[gladio4ever]

@spacemooseireland

Rather funny actually - then you claim Buran was also made up from scrathch even though it copied every detail and aspect of the american shuttle?

As for your analogy, then its even more funny - you should get your facts straight:

the Mercury program ran from 1959 to 1963 while the earliest unmanned testflights of the Vostok program didnt occur until may 1960.

So I can hardly see how the US could have copied anything there ... ?

Why get mad over a question?

[spacemooseireland]

@gladio4ever I never said the Buran was not a copy of the US Space shuttle, no one knows for sure even now how much was copied and how much was original. However I understand how Americans are very proud people so you do tend to believe that you are the best at everything and I there is nothing really wrong with that. However the Manned Russian Spaceflight program began in January 1959, the same month of the awarding of the contract for the Mercury program, but you have to ask, who won the race?

[gladio4ever]

@spacemooseireland

????

Im not an american ! - but its obvious to anyone that the Buran was an exact copy. You need only to see how its configured and how that copied even the little observation window in the roof of the commmand deck.

And as for winnig the race then its obviously USA - not only did they manage to put several men on the moon but what is more interesting , then tey realized the full scientific potential, whereas the Sovietunion squandered it.

[spacemooseireland]

@gladio4ever I actually have a few degrees in space science, one of them is an advanced degree in Space and Society. Social psychology shows that populations go a bit crazy about space exploration and development so your raving can be dismissed as a form of insanity. The space race was a foreign policy statement, take a chill pill and don't get your knickers in a twist about something you don't know enough about to have an intelligent debate on, when the Americans won they then just gave up.

[gladio4ever]

@spacemooseireland

Actually I very much doubt you have ever been near a University, let alone "have a few degrees in space science" whatever that is ... ?

Space and society ... and that pseudostudy (if it actually exists) should somehow enable you to make an ENGINEERING evaluation.

Dont make me laugh. Again.

Im neither american nor agitated.

Because you are just another lying internet geek who knows nothing about anything.

Dont educated me - as opposed to you I have a masters AND Bsc.

[gladio4ever]

@spacemooseireland

And on a - very - final note, then let me point out that it was you who started the namecalling - obviously because you are incapable of supplying any real arguments. Your Choice.

And calling me insane is rather large words from an uneducated and unemployed simpleton, who thinks "spacetourism" is actually the same as working for ESA or NASA.

Oh.. i forgot ... you dont work there anymore.

"when the Americans won they then just gave up"

QED

Get a life. And a job.

[LeVonDanE]

@spacemooseireland Now that doesn't sound like a very educative statement, "they just gave up". The U.S has continued it's space program to date, and so has Russia. I like to think that these two great powers, along with many other countries, have put aside this their petty differences and have been working together to create something fantastic. So much more has been learned through the cooperation of ideas then from the "Go it alone" approach. The space station is a perfect example of this.

[Silmacar]

@gladio4ever Clearly you don't know how the Shuttle is made, and how Buran is made. The main differences being the launch system, the main engines of the orbiter, and the presence of an AI. Buran is, basically, a Shuttle 2.0: same concept (the 1950's "spaceplane"), different approach, with the bonus of having seen the faults in the American version.

[gladio4ever]

@Silmacar

If you say so ... its funny how every angle, facet and placement of features EXACTLY mimic the american, including placement and configuration of thermal tiles: except for the engines.

Regarding the payload then its just words as the Buran have never ever actually completed a real mission, so its just a theory.

You can believe what you will, the rest of the world sees it as a russian copy that never worked for real.

If its so good then why didnt the Russians build more ... ?

[tim555ism]

@gladio4ever Because the USSR collapsed and the project was suspended or may be cancelled .

[dalek14mc]

@spacemooseireland-Sorry to burst your bubble, but mercury looks nothing like vostok. Mercury didn't kill anyone either. But I agree, it looks nothing like american technology.

[spacemooseireland]

@dalek14mc Thats the same argument I was making about the Mercury Program being nothing like the Vostok Program like the Mig-105 was nothing like the X-20, Almost nothing was Russian copies of the US Space program and almost nothing was copied by the Yanks. By the 1980s anyway the Russians and USA didn't really have anything left to copy from each other except for the rediculous Buran shuttle, you should read what your actually commenting about before you rediculously shoot your mouth off.

[dalek14mc]

@spacemooseireland-I wasn't shooting my mouth off, I do agree with you.

[SepradistPhantom]

@spacemooseireland While i agree with most of your points - what was ridiculous about Buran?

[Biogem369]

@gladio4ever mig105 is 1960. U.S. Space Shuttle v1979 built by first launch April 12, 1981

USSR Buran (spacecraft) on Nov. 8, 1976. "Buran" flight (1982-1989) Then the Soviet Union collapsed

America copied the technology of the USSR. Now the U.S. and Russia are working together. Space stations are also built on Soviet technology. training astronauts for landing on other planets are on the U.S. technology.

[gladio4ever]

@Biogem369

Whatever pumps your nuts .. the rest of the world know for a fact that the sovietunion stole everything they could - including OBVIOUSLY Buran.

In fact a video of the former President of Russia Boris Yeltsin was accidently leaked where he SCREAMED because he said that russia wasted far too much hard currency on stealing technology - technology that did not match the cost.

In fact the Shuttle program in USA started in the late 60´s whereas the Buran started around 1975-76.

[gladio4ever]

@Biogem369 But let me ALSO point out that the Sovietunion and Russia invented a lot of brilliant technology, especially offensive missile technology - which for many years was far better than anything the west had, and in some areas still is.

Buran however is NOT one of the great russian stories of indigenous inventions, but a story about russia being very good at copying and adapting technology - which actually is impressive in itself.

[Biogem369]

@gladio4ever Nothing like this buran in the USSR were built earlier than their U.S. Space Shuttle. Start fired later. Technical work is wound with the sixties. This is the U.S. copied the technology of the USSR.

[gladio4ever]

@Biogem369

Nonsense ... nothing of what you say has anything to do with reality - even if its hard to really understand what you are saying.

And its not like its hard to find the facts from independent sources.

Only retarded and unintelligent burned-out communists would believe such a mammoth lie as the one you are trying to make.

Try reading a book made by a real academic before you open your mouth... Nekulturnyi...

Until then this discussion is over.

[Biogem369]

@gladio4ever You Get the scoop on this dirt. that in the past the U.S. sprinkle on the Soviet Union and all find there.

[KillerAyvaz]

@gladio4ever

Buran space shuttle didn't fail, it succesfully went to space and retourned by autopilot. Unfortunately, the idea of reusable spacecraft, although interesting, at this point is more costly than the one time use rockets that Russia uses, and less reliable. Soyuz rockets are more reliable and cheaper than the U.S space shuttles. No new ones have been built for some reason lol, so now U.S can't get to space by itself, let's see what spacecraft they come up with next, should be cool.

[Alexei55555]

@gladio4ever Buran not fail .. where you get this ..

[vaninec]

@gladio4ever Mercury Space program was a copy of the Vostok Space Program???

is it True?

[gladio4ever]

@vaninec

In one word?

NO

Mercury was announced on december 17 1957 whereas Vostok was commenced in early 1959. The soviet union manged to get a man in space in 1961, but as he didnt actually control or fly his spacecraft them it was more like strapping a man to a big rocket than a real spaceflight.

However the americans COULD have learned something from the russians with regards to simplicity and maybe the thruster rockets. In all other areas the americans were more advanced.

[bfmlc]

@gladio4ever What you are missing is a brain, you american dumbbell

[SrNutritivo]

@gladio4ever oh... Buran its a superior ship, twice of the payload than the US shuttle at a fraction (1/4) of the cost using a full reusable launcher. The shuttle is another example of how lobbyst and military contractors steal money to the contributors in a country with a crappy educative system and ealthcare.

[lucianmop]

@gladio4ever everybody copy everybody nowadays. also th usa. but god bless the usa

[TheByrdsCollective]

Bitchin'!

[piespokladowy]

*****

[Vyun1969]

it is Soviet space programm of 1960-70 years

[veter47]

Я это написал для 4екb.

[veter47]

Читайте Викпедию -

Спираль (авиационно-космическая система).

Не было пилотируемых полетов в космос.

[spacemooseireland]

Я знаю, что не было никаких ведомых полетов в к месту, это кино и другие на моем канале - концептуальные космические корабли, которые были разработаны, но не построены

[IronManu77]

These Russian pilots look like super aliens...no white part of their eyes can be seen.

[veter47]

Была такая разработка, забыл название. Опробовали сброс без пилотов.

[4ekb]

ошибаетесь, аналог был пилотируемым

[gdfqwe]

Что за хрень?

[TogieTung]

The two staged launch system was first proposed by a Nazi aerospace scientist called Seiger or something. By the way the legendary Burt Rutan used that system in his x-prize spaceplane & it works. I don't if the former USSR was successful in their 50/50 project after testing with scale models.

[pilot7893]

I think the X-15 used that system to some extent too. The X-15 was carried under a B-52 to altitude, then released.

[jtp0321]

@TogieTung Sanger was his name? I believe it was the Antipodal bomber. Designed to reach the US with a "dirty bomb".

[TogieTung]

@jtp0321 Yes it was Sanger, Eugen Sanger to be exact & the lifting body low orbit space bomber was called Silbervogel(Silverbird). The concept was good but when NASA scientists uses Sanger's spaceplane 1939 design in their supercomputer simulations they found out the spaceplane would burned up in the earth's atmosphere. The German govt did propose reviving the Sanger space plane 20 yrs ago but it didn't left the drawing board.

[boinkboink1968]

@TogieTung The correct name should be Sanger , full name Eugen Sanger , considered to be father of suborbital reusable spacecraft and the theory of skipping or bouncing of the atmosphere to prolong flights. His project The "Silbervogel" was the genesis for the Dynasoar (USA) , Keldysh Bomber (USSR), this project above mentioned and oddly enough some Russian cruise missiles.

[3dimon3]

@TogieTung what seiger do? that was only his dream and teory , first man in space was in 1961