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Can't wait till discussions like this are possible here in the US without being demonized and is taken seriously.
It is also interesting to think on why the US, as a secular country with the separation of church and state written into its founding document is as religious as it is while the UK, with its large amount of religious leaders in its government and its monarch as the head of their church is much more secular.
It must be other Christian churches are missing something-a void of some sort to enjoy attacking and laughing @ the RC Church-if they were fulfilled with joy,peace, & love in Christ as the Roman Church is-they certainly wouldn't be acting this way.
What lies-we have some fallen away- among the multiple thousands of clergy-low statistics compared to other religions-I don't condone their actions but I will say this. The RC Church holds sound & truthful teachings/traditions with its UNCHANGING DOCTRINE-the unpious clergy can never destroy what Christ has established.It has proven this for nearly 2000 years.It holds the fullness of truth & always will.
I appreciate that Fry may have made a mistake in saying that Galileo was tortured, but if people are gonna nit-pick like this, then maybe we should go into all the inconsistencies in the Catholic argument...
@SpeedyTase You're aware, I presume, that both sides were allowed to put their case forward in this debate (twice, infact).
Or are you upset purely because a view you don't hold with was presented on national television? It's true, however, that this would never air on US terrestrial TV. That says more about the rife anti-intellectualism here in America than it does about the UK though, sadly.
@SpeedyTase They speak the truth and openly, in a proper and sophisticated debate, unlike Americans who have to resort to personal attacks on public television- And they're the ones that are ignorant? I don't get people.
@SpeedyTase Atheism is a force of ignorant? HAHAHAHA, science is truth, without truth nothing can exist not peace, freedom, justice or even morality. By having strings tied to a fellowship that is outside yourself you loose yourself and truth in life. Its sad how religion enslaves, but then again just your statement is unbelievable ignorant, any country NOT IGNORANT will "air" both sides. america doesnt, UK does.
@666danielclark666 So, besides resorting to juvenile name-calling, please tell what great and logical thinking of atheism. I suppose the greatness and goodness around just happens in your presence.
@19780433 Your agenda is to protect the influence of the Church on Politics. That is a very dangerous agenda indeed. Don't claim the church doesn't have an agenda, everyone has an agenda, but the church's isn't for the good of man like mine is.
@SpeedyTase Please neuter yourself. I take it you are a fellow American, albeit a poor example of one, and as General George S. Patton was so wont to say, we don't need you breeding more of yourself on our soil...
Fuck the pope and fuck catholicism.If you insist on following an organized religion,at least go for one that is an unbroken line from the earliest tenents of Christianity ie:Greek/Eastern Orthodoxy.It has the mysticism that crystal-gazers and pyramidiots and their ilk crave,the meditative spirituality of Buddhism and the mindless superstitiom Catholics need.Thanks to Russia and Eastern Europe it has heaps of followers and we have NO POPE. Get religion from the horse's mouth,not from it's arse.
Please pause the video at 8:41 and read the Motion results if you didn't already do so; that is very encouraging. This shows what people really feel when putting their opinion on an anonymous ballot.
Not only is the change in "Before" to "After" great to see, but also the massive decrease in those who were "undecided".
the catholic church has over 1 billion followers in the world: i wonder how many of them are kids that cant say the contrary because they dont even know what it is (kids whit 1 yo are baptized and therefore considered catholics) and cant say they arent because the older people that live with them have the word; i wonder how many (oh, so many) dont even think about it because they dont have the tools to think otherwise...
@BentivoglioIII Well, remember that the reigning monarch is the head of the Church of England, and religion has frequently been used by royalty throughout history (not just in Britain) to abuse sovereign power. If the point you're making is that royalty is a 'bad thing', you won't get any arguments here - but if you're using that as a defense of the Catholic church, your argument is invalid. The Church has supported European monarchies (and vice versa) way more often than not.
@BentivoglioIII I'm not sure I follow you. For one thing, I don't believe in religion (of any kind), and I'm certainly not opposed to divorce. Then again, I've never seen much point in marriage in the first place...
@Catapultandclingfilm im not a christian, i just thought that it is actually a very valid point. especially as surely at some point jesus would of been asked about the earth.
It adds to the question, why did the church persecute the man that suggested it was spherical, only to admit defeat once it was proven to be spherical. Now Christians can find bits of the bible that says the earth is spherical..
I must admit that i forget how intelligent and well spoken stephen fry is. This is a man who can do and has done many amazing things to help everyone not just himself. And he is completely right about the church as a whole they are bullys. They have such a chance to do so much more and refuse to do so.
You know what, I could watch this all day, do some contemplation or even a little philisophical as well as ethical reassessment of my entire being but still, my faith won't budge. I believe in God, simple as that, but there are people who I admire that are atheists and one of those is Stephen Fry. Stephen Fry is smart, witty, objective and a master in language. I want an intelligent friend like that: no talks about how we differ in terms of beliefs but to chat and hear each other's opinion.
@ichigoism12 Questioning your own actions and respecting those who believe differently are signs of wisdom and maturity. Our world could use more people with your attitude. Keep it up and spread the love.
Actually, my wish is to have a chat with Stephen Fry. No talks about religion and stuff. Just a simple assessment of beliefs and, maybe, a little exchange of personal views of different matters. Just like Socrates' actions of conversing with people even those whose views are fanatical and extreme. Converse, share ideas and be objective of your actions. I have my faith in times of great spiritual inquiry and I have my reasoning in times of great philosophical assessment.
@Mcstroke57 ...Im an atheist so Im not defending Catholics BUT....they dont " pray to Mary and the saints" as if they are dieties, they merely use them as intersessors...like friends in heaven, if you will. They also dont pray "to" statues, they pray to the spirit that is represented by the statue. Also, Catholics do not eclusively have "Sunday as the sabbath" they also have mass on Saturday. When they call a priest "father" it is likened to our earthly fathers not our heavenly father.
@atheistexchristian All the things that you have said are not biblical in any way.
Catholics bow down before statues and images, it is forbidden(exodus 20:4-5).
Nobody in the bible ever call another christian "father" but only brother.
The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in heaven for their prayers.
Fat sodomite Pseudo intellectual , looks intelligent with answers in front of him , but had a bit of trouble on who want's to be a millionaire didn't we Steve!, and now thinks he's Jewish because of a distant relative, what joke this cretin is!
@Richthor1889 MFW someone accuses someone else of not being intelligent, but uses insults like 'fat sodomite' AND thinks Who Wants to be a Millionaire is a barometer of intellect.
@kasperhauseredux please please don't respond to people like *him,* I scrolled down to see the top rated comments to enjoy a bit of wit and instead I had to endure his nonsense. While I'm at it, thank you for uploading the clip!
Hear what God of Israel YAHUSHUA-YAHUWAH (Son and Father are ONE) saying to our generation by His chosen prophets: Trumpetcallofgodonline. com ; Letter called "Purify Your Faith, and Come to the Father as It is Written": EXCERPT: "Only in the Bible and through these very Letters, of which I have given to My prophet of the end of this age, shall you find Him and know Him."
If - IF - there is a master who made everything - the big universe - to big for us to understand, the collision of galaxies, the dying of stars - why the f... does he/it care if you, in our tiny little rathole of a solar system are gay or not?
All this time spent on serving a fiction figure in an old book is way better used getting out in the world and be nice to one another.
@SpeedyTase My explanation is simple : I've never met a Christian that actually acts like Jesus and follows what he said. Have you? If so, give me a name.
What I have met are Christians who just speak like Jesus - they'll claim all kinds of verifiable non-sense and flat-out lies are truth...then berate people when questioned or confronted about it, before running away.
@rhov233 why is that? Fry's a pretty good speech writer, he's done a lot of them. also his arguments are a lot more emotional than Hitchens, which is why it was better i think.
If these two buffoons are the best defenders the church can muster, its more obvious than ever that the organization is dying, and rightly so! Its only a shame that they this criminal enterprise will continue to hurt so many people during its death throes, hurry up and go away, let humanity thrive!
@adamkoncz Galileo was threatened with execution if he didn't recant his (accurate) heliocentric theory of the solar system. Even then, he was placed under house arrest and died, a broken man, just a few years later.
@kasperhauseredux G. died 77 as a famous mathematician and astronomer amongst his family and friends. (and those amongst those friends were dukes, bishops and cardinals ) He was condemned because in his book he literally called the Pope a "simpleton".The Pope who originally was his friend and supporter of his research and only asked G. not to attack geocentric worldview without being able to prove the heliocentric one without a doubt which G. never did.
@IAMTHESHITEHAWK Actually I am an atheist. But it is kinda stupid to lie about history just because it does not suits your case. Gallileo in fact was never tortured. Cardinal Barberini (Pope Urban VIII) was a friend and admirer of Gallileo and already saved once G. ass in 1616. Only thing that as a pope he had to think about politics, and G. was anything but subtle. G. put the pope into a situation where he had no choice but to condemn G.
@StealthDonkey007@StealthDonkey007 I suggest you do the same. Start in wikipedia. G.B. was condemned because he attacked the church in its very basis. He supported reincarnation, he questioned the divinity of Jesus, he maintained that there are multiple worlds just like Earth etc. All these together led to his death. Again I am not protecting the church or religions, but lets forget cliches and stick with the facts.
@StealthDonkey007 Of course they dont deserve torture and death, now! But yes they did deserve it back then. Now it sound silly to put someone to death just because does not agree with the government policy. Back then it was the normal. Point is this does not apply to the church(es) and religions but to most aspect of life during the larger part of the history.
@adamkoncz But the difference is that these people say they speak for God. "Everyone else was doing it" isn't an excuse we let kids use, let alone massive institutions that claim to get their morality directly from the one true god.
@StealthDonkey007 You cannot judge history by today's standards. For once it is not fair, but also meaningless. You can judge the current churches by today's standards though.
@adamkoncz I can judge them because they claim to be a source for morality. They claim to be the ones who speak for God, the ones that *really* know the difference between good and evil. They say God is unchanging. By their own standards, what is immoral now was immoral then.
@StealthDonkey007 But you are the one who does the judging and your morality is not based on god. Also this is beside my point. The original argument was the S. Fry said Gallileo was tortured by the church and this is simply not true. I admire S.F. and I know that he is a knowledgeable man. So ignorance is not an excuse. Even more sad that he made a false claim just to support his opinion,
@adamkoncz I never said that Gallileo was tortured. I agreed with you on that from the beginning. They put a genius under house arrest for working out amazing things about the universe they disagreed with, but they never tortured him. They tortured *other* people they disagreed with at length, but not him.
Correct, my morality is not based on God. The church claims that theirs is. If God's morality doesn't change, but the church's has over time, then this claim is inconsistent.
@StealthDonkey007 One should not forget the times these people lived. They were not scientist. They did science but also astrology, they were deeply religious and superstitious. They also wanted to change the religion and the church just as much they wanted to promote their world view.
I sincerely apologise for my previous rudeness, as normally I would not lower myself to it. However; I sometimes get somewhat disheartened when there are so many serious comments regarding the equally serious situations we are all facing around the World and one replies by checking ones "Grammar!" Well...? I know that there are many individuals who would love to participate in commenting on various subjects, but they speak an entirely different language, so we will never know "Their" Oppinion.
@einrib4truth I completely agree - us English speakers tend to assume YouTube is solely our domain. We're fortunate that we have a mother tongue that so many people can speak, to whatever degree, as a second or third language.
I have two other languages myself (Japanese and Hungarian) but I wouldn't be very confident to post on YouTube in either of them. I admire people who try and make an argument (whatever that argument may be) in a language other than their own.
Stephen, I'm very disappointed in your very selective historical argument. Inquisition takes many forms: Henry's burning and looting of monasteries in Ireland , Spencer's 'sword and word' strategy, Cromwell's campaign of terror, etc. History is factual,not a lesson in morality. I'm Irish,a non- practising Catholic woman who is also gay. Pack up your stereotypes in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile while you are on your post-colonial adventure, 'defence of small nations'exercise in Uganda.
@breedak Well, I think that's partly his point -- you should watch the rest of the debate. If your argument on behalf of the Catholic Church is that "everyone else committed crimes during that time in history" and that you should "judge the Church's actions by the moral standards of the time", you don't have a leg to stand on. If a religion claims to have a moral authority on truth, then it is it's responsibility to be morally superior to everyone else at all times.
@adi87tya My 'point', is a response, not an argument on behalf of any Church. The mistake is to believe or to accept that any order or religion or has a monopoly on truth. That's my point and my examples, which by the way, do nor occur at the same time as the Inquistion but after the 'Enlightenment' bear that out. It seems more a case of 'monkey see, monkey do, don't you think! Thanks for your reply, blissfully clear of insult and profanity, I appreciate the argument :)
@breedak Sure -- but the debate is whether the "Catholic Church is a force for good". The answer to that should be that whenever power on people's minds is concentrated in one single entity with a powerful leader, it cannot be a force for good.
It's also very interesting just how many pompous comments come from "Brits!" Wouldn't happen to be competing with kasperhauseredux from "Oxford" by any chance?
@einrib4truth Ah, so obviously it's impossible for me to come from "Oxford", right? I mean, because I live in "Los Angeles", it just couldn't be the case that I grew up in "Oxford", or was educated in "Cambridge" for that matter? I'm certainly a pompous Brit though, albeit an expat one. Cheers!
Well in the UK they used to have them, but I believe they are closing many down! Not that I live there any more. The internet, as a tool for untold "World-Wide" information and at ones finger-tips whether your in bed or in the garden is immensely practical and marvellous as you are obviously using it? And does one honestly believe "Everything" that is put into books in a "Library?" If I were to have sourced all my information from a "Library" it would have taken me "YEARS!" Sorry sir it's out
Bishop Odo (half brother of Wiiliam I) robbed the county of Kent blind, in order to BUY the Papacy for himself. He didn't manage it, but he COULD have. There are various means of gaining Kingship, but E-Bay isn't one of them.
Great speech, the cath ch destroyed my country with its fake dogma and lack of moral integrity.Their lies and hokey cokey rituals infected and infiltrated all levels of the government, schools, media and commerce until no1 could do anything without the say so of the cardinals.
The people of my country were once creative, proud and just, but now are blinded moral vacuums open to anything the dress wearing priests insinuate, and the country has descended into an economic and moral wasteland
@sidvidkid I had no idea, Sid. I always imagined NZ to be a country where freethought and rationalism would flourish. I had no idea the church had a strong hold down there.
When you decide to open your eyes (before its too late) and start to use the intelligence you were (I assume) born with; then just maybe... you will also use "CAPITOLS!" to express what you know to be FACTS! But; as so many of the Brain-dead Media manipulated masses... they ONLY believe it... if it comes from their God-like information boxes! The ONLY place one can (at the Moment) get FACTS! is this internet, but I feel your NOT interested in facts are you?
Quote: "The ONLY place one can (at the Moment) get FACTS! is this internet...."
Unfortunately, the internet is also a great place to find ill-informed drivel peddled by the delusional, the paranoid, various flavors of crackpot conspiracy theorists and the just plain mentally ill. But, y'know, I suppose ALL CAPS really is cruise control for cool, and 100 internets to you for not rambling on about a ZOMG HUGE ZIONIST NEW WORLD ORDER CONSPIRACY!!!! At least, not yet...
@kasperhauseredux Yes I remember now, your the "pseudo Intellect" from "OXFORD England!" now living amongst the ignorant uncouth "American's aren't you?
Steven Fry is not only "gay, he is also Jewish, and is purposely spurting all this Jewish propaganda Bile (Although TRUE!) on the Jewish OWNED "BBC" against Catholicism/Christianity, (and I subscribe to NO Religion!) Wake-Up!" and Understand WHO Created ALL The Propaganda on "AIDS!" Watch if you can? "HIV-AIDS fact or fraud 2hrs on You tube"
It's TIME WORLD...to WAKE-UP to what is Stealthily and Deceivingly being Orchestrated all over the World. Go to: wake-upbeforeitstoolate(dot)com UNITE!
@einrib4truth Your comment about the BBC being 'Jewish owned' is the only true (not to mention coherent) part of your post. The BBC is owned by Jews. And Muslims, Christians, atheists, Scientologists, Rastafarians, Pastafarians, Buddhists and Wiccans. The BBC is funded, and owned, by the citizens of the United Kingdom. Incidentally, why is it that the Chemtrail-obsessed, AIDS-denying, 911-was-an-inside-job-loving tin foil hat brigade insist on random use of ALL CAPS??? I smell a conspiracy.
Slight correction, The bbc is funded by the uk government, using the money from the people. It may seem like i am nit picking, but the difference is very important.
The uk government, and ultimately the head of state pull the strings of the bbc, the people have little or no control over what it disseminates. I remind you that the tv license which funds the bbc is compulsory, not voluntary, so the people have no way to withdraw or adjust its funding.
@sidvidkid Well yes, except the License isn't technically compulsory - it isn't like a tax that all employed citizens are required to pay by law. You only need one if you own a TV or radio, which obviously you're free to abstain from. Here in the US the BBC model is looked upon with suspicion - it's 'Socialized Broadcasting' much like the NHS is 'Socialized Medicine'. However, given the crap that passes for TV in the US (especially the awful news reporting) and the BBC's frequent...
@kasperhauseredux ...run-ins with the Government, it's a very long way from 'state run TV' indeed. The closest the US has to a Jeremy Paxman is someone like Jon Stewart, ostensibly a comedian, which is pretty alarming. Ultimately the BBC has a duty to the British people to be impartial. Now, it may not always succeed brilliantly in that, but it does a much better job of it than broadcast media here, which is in the constant thrall of advertisers and a fear of controversy.
I think the bbc is a mouthpiece for the government, as are all state broadcasters, and any "run ins with government" are contrived and when examined closely are not really run ins at all.
I dont see much difference at all between fox or the beeb, and any slight differences are in how the respective governments wish to be seen by the world. USA gov is the authoritarian right wing "father" figure, while the UK gov is the pretend caring nagging left wing "mum"
And in the end it is all just propaganda, the goal of which is to frame any and all debates and controversys within predefined boundaries so as to insinuate those predfefined boundaries within the minds of viewers which precludes them, subconsciously, from ever straying outside those boundaries.
When viewing any MSM outfit, always ask "what is beyond their boudaries, what will they never say". this is usually where the truth is to be found.
I concur whole-heartedly with everything that Stephen Fry said apart from his homosexuality... It genuinely makes me upset that I don't have a chance with that beautiful, intellectually brilliant, hilarious, charming man. We need so much more people like him on this planet, for I firmly believe the world is a better place with him in it.
the catholic church will be dead soon enough ppl are feed up with their wealth wheeling crap ! SELL THE VATICAN AN FEED / HOUSE THE POOR ! may they follow their own teachings at least 1 time !
"Too many Youtube users are anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Why is this?"
I would say, because of the strong presence of religion in this world.
If you're brought up (religiously) not to question it, and to just accept it at face value, then you're more likely to accept conspiracy theories "off the cuff".
Religion has literally trained (brainwashed) people into taking things "as is".
Not necessarily, but I agree that it plays a big part in it. The illogical mindset required to believe despite the massive amount of evidence to the contrary (Moon Landing, Jews controlling the world, etc.) also applies to religion. Or at least it applies to dogmatic belief structures such as the Catholic Church, where only some of their ceremonies are based on their Holy Book.
@ExtremeBogom Absolutely, although I think religion is often more a symptom of irrationality than a direct cause. I think one of the characteristics of humans is our need to see connections, even when they're not there. We're storytelling animals, so conspiracy theories - like religion - appeal to use because they allow us to make connections, and draw conclusions, while putting in the minimum of effort.
@Voodoofreak35 Well, to be fair, the debate also included an extremely unattractive woman, a gay man and an alcoholic, so insulting any of them would be a potential minefield of political incorrectness.
@kasperhauseredux Agreed, but I think it'd be best if we didn't attack the speaker, but what he or she is saying. Let's discuss or argue ideas, not the credibility of the speaker.
all religions are evil liars ! cults nothing more nothing less ! let all these religions as said by their jesus give away give up all their worldly goods an follow him , jesus may have been a good man but in no way a god , maybe alien who had a good idea to teach humans to respect others ? who knows really ? ! the pope hell with him to the VOID HE AWAITS !
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexuality and homosexuality. Even non-religious people know this.
The homosexual agenda is not good for anyone, including those who consider themselves "gay".
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Actualy, the authentic Catholic Church is a force for good and St. Thomas More truly is a saint and he was martyred for defending the faith because King Henry wanted to get divorced. Stephen Fry is so full of turkey stuffing. He expresses "no quarrel" with the individual Catholic devout person but hey... If you criticize what I believe then you are indetibly criticizing me aswell.
@LatinPrayers He stood against a man who wanted to stop living with a woman. What an achievement. He burned people alive, he tortured people. In my opinion christ ouwldn't like people being burned. Also, if I remember rightly, after his arrest he recounted his position concerning the king's divorce wihtout being tortured. He's no saint by Christ's standards, he's not even a saint by Catholic standards because he recounted his beliefs.
@yossariancomplex Divorcement is a mortal sin and he was not apart of it. If St Thomas More recanted what he had said then they would not have executed him. Of course the king and the people who condemned St Thomas More would have made rumors saying that he recanted but he obviously didn't, Saying Christ standards and Catholic standards is the same thing...
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The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the trinity and celebrates Pagan holidays like Christmas
Catholics pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
Catholics bow down before images and statues !
Catholics have Sunday as the Sabbath.
Catholics disobey the Bible by calling the priest "Father." (read Matthew 23:9)
CATHOLICS CHANGED GOD'S COMMADMENTS !
Mcstroke57 2 days ago
hahaha he's funny...and sounds intelligent too...GO CATHOLICS!!
catholicric28 4 days ago
@catholicric28 you are aware stephan fry is an avid atheist.
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Can't wait till discussions like this are possible here in the US without being demonized and is taken seriously.
It is also interesting to think on why the US, as a secular country with the separation of church and state written into its founding document is as religious as it is while the UK, with its large amount of religious leaders in its government and its monarch as the head of their church is much more secular.
lololololol47 5 days ago
@lololololol47 conspiracy mayhaps?
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@LoveNoteProjects Hmm...I think you're on to something...Damn illuminati...
lololololol47 2 hours ago
A hero
moronpoliceHQ 5 days ago
Oh my goodness I love this man
Azami4117 6 days ago
It must be other Christian churches are missing something-a void of some sort to enjoy attacking and laughing @ the RC Church-if they were fulfilled with joy,peace, & love in Christ as the Roman Church is-they certainly wouldn't be acting this way.
truthfulreply 1 week ago
What lies-we have some fallen away- among the multiple thousands of clergy-low statistics compared to other religions-I don't condone their actions but I will say this. The RC Church holds sound & truthful teachings/traditions with its UNCHANGING DOCTRINE-the unpious clergy can never destroy what Christ has established.It has proven this for nearly 2000 years.It holds the fullness of truth & always will.
truthfulreply 1 week ago
I appreciate that Fry may have made a mistake in saying that Galileo was tortured, but if people are gonna nit-pick like this, then maybe we should go into all the inconsistencies in the Catholic argument...
Garrrrrido 1 week ago
I need to watch this whole debate, hitchens and fry debating together, boner time.
Bot23 1 week ago
Thou shalt not question Stephen Fry!
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Leave it to England to allow such crap over the airwaves. Atheism must be the life force of ignorants in the United Kingdom.
SpeedyTase 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase You're aware, I presume, that both sides were allowed to put their case forward in this debate (twice, infact).
Or are you upset purely because a view you don't hold with was presented on national television? It's true, however, that this would never air on US terrestrial TV. That says more about the rife anti-intellectualism here in America than it does about the UK though, sadly.
kasperhauseredux 1 week ago 29
@kasperhauseredux The Brits have cornered the market on "Look at me!" thinking.
SpeedyTase 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase Well, at least we're actually thinking. What's your excuse???
kasperhauseredux 1 week ago 18
@SpeedyTase They speak the truth and openly, in a proper and sophisticated debate, unlike Americans who have to resort to personal attacks on public television- And they're the ones that are ignorant? I don't get people.
UndeeniablyDee 1 week ago
@UndeeniablyDee stephen fry is a huge personality and intellect.... he made his opponents look stupid
SUNSHINEYNIGHT 22 hours ago
@SpeedyTase Good sir, you have been owned.
annie10103 3 days ago
@SpeedyTase Atheism is a force of ignorant? HAHAHAHA, science is truth, without truth nothing can exist not peace, freedom, justice or even morality. By having strings tied to a fellowship that is outside yourself you loose yourself and truth in life. Its sad how religion enslaves, but then again just your statement is unbelievable ignorant, any country NOT IGNORANT will "air" both sides. america doesnt, UK does.
Etrajbe 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase I'd argue with you, but you're a prick and a moron, who is not worth my fucking time.
666danielclark666 1 week ago
@666danielclark666 So, besides resorting to juvenile name-calling, please tell what great and logical thinking of atheism. I suppose the greatness and goodness around just happens in your presence.
SpeedyTase 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase You cannot debate logically or rationally, we have no agendas, you have many, all either nefarious or self serving.
19780433 1 week ago
@19780433 The only agenda of the Church is the salvation of souls.
LatinPrayers 1 week ago
@LatinPrayers You forgot protecting pedophiles and amassing wealth and power.
19780433 1 week ago
@19780433 Your agenda is to protect the influence of the Church on Politics. That is a very dangerous agenda indeed. Don't claim the church doesn't have an agenda, everyone has an agenda, but the church's isn't for the good of man like mine is.
FreekinEkin2 1 week ago
@FreekinEkin2 replied to wrong dude man
19780433 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase It is not me that made the original assertion,
Why don't you tell me what it is that makes Atheism the "life force of ignorance"?
666danielclark666 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase Please neuter yourself. I take it you are a fellow American, albeit a poor example of one, and as General George S. Patton was so wont to say, we don't need you breeding more of yourself on our soil...
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see how much better jews do fighting christians when thay drop there silly man made god good example 2 all jews an orther followers of abraham
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kingpharaohtsar 1 week ago
Fuck the pope and fuck catholicism.If you insist on following an organized religion,at least go for one that is an unbroken line from the earliest tenents of Christianity ie:Greek/Eastern Orthodoxy.It has the mysticism that crystal-gazers and pyramidiots and their ilk crave,the meditative spirituality of Buddhism and the mindless superstitiom Catholics need.Thanks to Russia and Eastern Europe it has heaps of followers and we have NO POPE. Get religion from the horse's mouth,not from it's arse.
laiosto 1 week ago
If anyone's wondering why he's revolving behind the stage, it's because he's in a giant imaginary cup of tea that he likes stirred slowly with love.
summerskyfilms 1 week ago
Please pause the video at 8:41 and read the Motion results if you didn't already do so; that is very encouraging. This shows what people really feel when putting their opinion on an anonymous ballot.
Not only is the change in "Before" to "After" great to see, but also the massive decrease in those who were "undecided".
SeventhRisk 2 weeks ago
the catholic church has over 1 billion followers in the world: i wonder how many of them are kids that cant say the contrary because they dont even know what it is (kids whit 1 yo are baptized and therefore considered catholics) and cant say they arent because the older people that live with them have the word; i wonder how many (oh, so many) dont even think about it because they dont have the tools to think otherwise...
saramartins95 2 weeks ago
Stephen Fry: awesome as usually. i just LOVE him!!!
saramartins95 2 weeks ago
How many people have been burned , tortured by the english kings and queens during the centuries?
BentivoglioIII 3 weeks ago
@BentivoglioIII In the name of Christianity, plenty.
kasperhauseredux 3 weeks ago 18
@kasperhauseredux in the name of equality , shame on the british crown for what they did during centuries
BentivoglioIII 3 weeks ago
@BentivoglioIII Well, remember that the reigning monarch is the head of the Church of England, and religion has frequently been used by royalty throughout history (not just in Britain) to abuse sovereign power. If the point you're making is that royalty is a 'bad thing', you won't get any arguments here - but if you're using that as a defense of the Catholic church, your argument is invalid. The Church has supported European monarchies (and vice versa) way more often than not.
kasperhauseredux 3 weeks ago 4
@kasperhauseredux Oh wel,l how can you belive in religion invented by a king to justify divorcing?
BentivoglioIII 3 weeks ago
@BentivoglioIII I'm not sure I follow you. For one thing, I don't believe in religion (of any kind), and I'm certainly not opposed to divorce. Then again, I've never seen much point in marriage in the first place...
kasperhauseredux 3 weeks ago 5
@BentivoglioIII That's Anglicanism, not Catholicism.
SpeedyTase 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase Unfourtunately , that's true.
BentivoglioIII 1 week ago
Explain this....... If God created the world....
how come he didnt know it was round?
Catapultandclingfilm 3 weeks ago
@Catapultandclingfilm that is actually a very good argument when you think about it.
Davethe12th 3 weeks ago
@Davethe12th i appreciate that you've clearly thought about it, rather than blindly dismissed it because a book told you to.... :)
Catapultandclingfilm 3 weeks ago
@Catapultandclingfilm im not a christian, i just thought that it is actually a very valid point. especially as surely at some point jesus would of been asked about the earth.
Davethe12th 3 weeks ago
@Davethe12th
It adds to the question, why did the church persecute the man that suggested it was spherical, only to admit defeat once it was proven to be spherical. Now Christians can find bits of the bible that says the earth is spherical..
Call me crazy, but is the Bible evolving? <- XD
Catapultandclingfilm 3 weeks ago
GET OFF THAT DAMN STAGE!!!
edwin768 3 weeks ago
@edwin768
why? because you dont like what hes saying... Condoms are bad? Did you watch the video on mute?
Catapultandclingfilm 3 weeks ago
Stephen Fry, I love you.
Xhalph 3 weeks ago
Stephen Fry: 1
Catholicism: 0
johnbenjamin12 3 weeks ago
I wonder how his speech would go down in the USA
sermeister 3 weeks ago
I must admit that i forget how intelligent and well spoken stephen fry is. This is a man who can do and has done many amazing things to help everyone not just himself. And he is completely right about the church as a whole they are bullys. They have such a chance to do so much more and refuse to do so.
vasago12341 4 weeks ago
Stephen Fry... what an amazing human being. We need someone like him in America :(
uiruu 4 weeks ago
Stephen Fry is my hero. His argument is so true.
sailman10 1 month ago
You know what, I could watch this all day, do some contemplation or even a little philisophical as well as ethical reassessment of my entire being but still, my faith won't budge. I believe in God, simple as that, but there are people who I admire that are atheists and one of those is Stephen Fry. Stephen Fry is smart, witty, objective and a master in language. I want an intelligent friend like that: no talks about how we differ in terms of beliefs but to chat and hear each other's opinion.
ichigoism12 1 month ago
@ichigoism12 Questioning your own actions and respecting those who believe differently are signs of wisdom and maturity. Our world could use more people with your attitude. Keep it up and spread the love.
HantoKah 1 month ago
@HantoKah
Actually, my wish is to have a chat with Stephen Fry. No talks about religion and stuff. Just a simple assessment of beliefs and, maybe, a little exchange of personal views of different matters. Just like Socrates' actions of conversing with people even those whose views are fanatical and extreme. Converse, share ideas and be objective of your actions. I have my faith in times of great spiritual inquiry and I have my reasoning in times of great philosophical assessment.
ichigoism12 1 month ago
That man is an idiot. Where is the evidence of his supposed 'intelligence'? He is in for a big shock one day.
peeinginthesinkisok 1 month ago
@peeinginthesinkisok the fact that you can't understand it shows how much smarter he is than you!
IAMTHESHITEHAWK 4 weeks ago in playlist shit2
The Roman Catholic Church teaches unbiblical doctorines like the trinity and celebrates Pagan holidays like Christmas
Catholics pray to Saints and Mary which is completely unbiblical.
Catholics bow down before images and statues and pray to them !
Catholics have Sunday as the Sabbath.
Catholics disobey the Bible by calling the priest "Father." (read Matthew 23:9)
CATHOLICS CHANGED GOD'S COMMADMENTS !
Mcstroke57 1 month ago
@Mcstroke57 ...Im an atheist so Im not defending Catholics BUT....they dont " pray to Mary and the saints" as if they are dieties, they merely use them as intersessors...like friends in heaven, if you will. They also dont pray "to" statues, they pray to the spirit that is represented by the statue. Also, Catholics do not eclusively have "Sunday as the sabbath" they also have mass on Saturday. When they call a priest "father" it is likened to our earthly fathers not our heavenly father.
atheistexchristian 1 day ago
@atheistexchristian All the things that you have said are not biblical in any way.
Catholics bow down before statues and images, it is forbidden(exodus 20:4-5).
Nobody in the bible ever call another christian "father" but only brother.
The Bible nowhere instructs believers in Christ to pray to anyone other than God. The Bible nowhere encourages, or even mentions, believers asking individuals in heaven for their prayers.
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Fat sodomite Pseudo intellectual , looks intelligent with answers in front of him , but had a bit of trouble on who want's to be a millionaire didn't we Steve!, and now thinks he's Jewish because of a distant relative, what joke this cretin is!
Richthor1889 1 month ago
@Richthor1889 MFW someone accuses someone else of not being intelligent, but uses insults like 'fat sodomite' AND thinks Who Wants to be a Millionaire is a barometer of intellect.
Fail.
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago 15
@kasperhauseredux please please don't respond to people like *him,* I scrolled down to see the top rated comments to enjoy a bit of wit and instead I had to endure his nonsense. While I'm at it, thank you for uploading the clip!
Lairdesangfroid 1 month ago
Odin promised to rid the world of ice giants. Do you see any ice giants around? HAIL ODIN THE ONE TRUE GOD.
GetOutOfHereCreeper 1 month ago 2
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TrumpetCallofGodLT 1 month ago
If - IF - there is a master who made everything - the big universe - to big for us to understand, the collision of galaxies, the dying of stars - why the f... does he/it care if you, in our tiny little rathole of a solar system are gay or not?
All this time spent on serving a fiction figure in an old book is way better used getting out in the world and be nice to one another.
sjatox 1 month ago
The surest way to be like Jesus is to never be a Christian.
TheHigherVoltage 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage or curse a fig tree. ;)
Devoti 1 month ago
@TheHigherVoltage That's really stupid, but go ahead and try to explain.
SpeedyTase 1 week ago
@SpeedyTase My explanation is simple : I've never met a Christian that actually acts like Jesus and follows what he said. Have you? If so, give me a name.
What I have met are Christians who just speak like Jesus - they'll claim all kinds of verifiable non-sense and flat-out lies are truth...then berate people when questioned or confronted about it, before running away.
TheHigherVoltage 1 week ago
i love how he totally slaughtered the catholic church that day, i really think he out did even hitchen.
Devoti 1 month ago
@Devoti I have a feeling Hitchens co-wrote his speech.
rhov233 1 month ago
@rhov233 why is that? Fry's a pretty good speech writer, he's done a lot of them. also his arguments are a lot more emotional than Hitchens, which is why it was better i think.
Devoti 1 month ago
@Devoti I know he's good, but this was over the top! Hitchens is one of the best to dismantle an opponents argument. Hitchslap! :D
rhov233 1 month ago
@rhov233 nah, i think they got fry'd ;D
Devoti 1 month ago
@Devoti Awesome anyway!
rhov233 1 month ago
I can listen to Stephen Fry talk all... day... long...
danieljliversLXXXIX 1 month ago
i wish he was my dad.
silverwishthelock1 1 month ago
Why does this guys nose look crooked to me?!?
vidfreak56 1 month ago
@vidfreak56
because it is.
silverwishthelock1 1 month ago
@silverwishthelock1 I Knew it!! LOL I thought i was seein things.
vidfreak56 1 month ago
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pr1970uk 3 weeks ago
If these two buffoons are the best defenders the church can muster, its more obvious than ever that the organization is dying, and rightly so! Its only a shame that they this criminal enterprise will continue to hurt so many people during its death throes, hurry up and go away, let humanity thrive!
Groth1175 1 month ago
Hmm I believe Galileo was not tortured ever.
adamkoncz 1 month ago
@adamkoncz Galileo was threatened with execution if he didn't recant his (accurate) heliocentric theory of the solar system. Even then, he was placed under house arrest and died, a broken man, just a few years later.
Sounds an awful lot like torture to me.
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago 35
@kasperhauseredux G. died 77 as a famous mathematician and astronomer amongst his family and friends. (and those amongst those friends were dukes, bishops and cardinals ) He was condemned because in his book he literally called the Pope a "simpleton".The Pope who originally was his friend and supporter of his research and only asked G. not to attack geocentric worldview without being able to prove the heliocentric one without a doubt which G. never did.
adamkoncz 1 month ago
@adamkoncz Get out..
IRememberTheOldDays 1 month ago
@adamkoncz then you're completely uneducated and you don't even know who Galileo is, you're a moron trolling religious fuckwit!
IAMTHESHITEHAWK 4 weeks ago in playlist shit2
@IAMTHESHITEHAWK Actually I am an atheist. But it is kinda stupid to lie about history just because it does not suits your case. Gallileo in fact was never tortured. Cardinal Barberini (Pope Urban VIII) was a friend and admirer of Gallileo and already saved once G. ass in 1616. Only thing that as a pope he had to think about politics, and G. was anything but subtle. G. put the pope into a situation where he had no choice but to condemn G.
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz Galileo was not tortured, correct. He got off lucky. Google "Giordano Bruno"
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago
@StealthDonkey007 @StealthDonkey007 I suggest you do the same. Start in wikipedia. G.B. was condemned because he attacked the church in its very basis. He supported reincarnation, he questioned the divinity of Jesus, he maintained that there are multiple worlds just like Earth etc. All these together led to his death. Again I am not protecting the church or religions, but lets forget cliches and stick with the facts.
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz oh yeah, my bad, people *do* deserve to be tortured to death for believing in reincarnation or other planets. Silly me.
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago
@StealthDonkey007 Of course they dont deserve torture and death, now! But yes they did deserve it back then. Now it sound silly to put someone to death just because does not agree with the government policy. Back then it was the normal. Point is this does not apply to the church(es) and religions but to most aspect of life during the larger part of the history.
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz I mean ...not *only* to church(es) ...
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz But the difference is that these people say they speak for God. "Everyone else was doing it" isn't an excuse we let kids use, let alone massive institutions that claim to get their morality directly from the one true god.
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago
@StealthDonkey007 You cannot judge history by today's standards. For once it is not fair, but also meaningless. You can judge the current churches by today's standards though.
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz I can judge them because they claim to be a source for morality. They claim to be the ones who speak for God, the ones that *really* know the difference between good and evil. They say God is unchanging. By their own standards, what is immoral now was immoral then.
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago
@StealthDonkey007 But you are the one who does the judging and your morality is not based on god. Also this is beside my point. The original argument was the S. Fry said Gallileo was tortured by the church and this is simply not true. I admire S.F. and I know that he is a knowledgeable man. So ignorance is not an excuse. Even more sad that he made a false claim just to support his opinion,
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz I never said that Gallileo was tortured. I agreed with you on that from the beginning. They put a genius under house arrest for working out amazing things about the universe they disagreed with, but they never tortured him. They tortured *other* people they disagreed with at length, but not him.
Correct, my morality is not based on God. The church claims that theirs is. If God's morality doesn't change, but the church's has over time, then this claim is inconsistent.
StealthDonkey007 3 weeks ago
@StealthDonkey007 One should not forget the times these people lived. They were not scientist. They did science but also astrology, they were deeply religious and superstitious. They also wanted to change the religion and the church just as much they wanted to promote their world view.
adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
@adamkoncz lol okay if you believe it it must be true
theafi99000 3 weeks ago
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adamkoncz 3 weeks ago
Owned!
marsglorious 1 month ago
littlebigplanet :)
2553065 1 month ago
I sincerely apologise for my previous rudeness, as normally I would not lower myself to it. However; I sometimes get somewhat disheartened when there are so many serious comments regarding the equally serious situations we are all facing around the World and one replies by checking ones "Grammar!" Well...? I know that there are many individuals who would love to participate in commenting on various subjects, but they speak an entirely different language, so we will never know "Their" Oppinion.
einrib4truth 1 month ago 3
@einrib4truth I completely agree - us English speakers tend to assume YouTube is solely our domain. We're fortunate that we have a mother tongue that so many people can speak, to whatever degree, as a second or third language.
I have two other languages myself (Japanese and Hungarian) but I wouldn't be very confident to post on YouTube in either of them. I admire people who try and make an argument (whatever that argument may be) in a language other than their own.
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago 5
Stephen, I'm very disappointed in your very selective historical argument. Inquisition takes many forms: Henry's burning and looting of monasteries in Ireland , Spencer's 'sword and word' strategy, Cromwell's campaign of terror, etc. History is factual,not a lesson in morality. I'm Irish,a non- practising Catholic woman who is also gay. Pack up your stereotypes in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile while you are on your post-colonial adventure, 'defence of small nations'exercise in Uganda.
breedak 1 month ago
@breedak Well, I think that's partly his point -- you should watch the rest of the debate. If your argument on behalf of the Catholic Church is that "everyone else committed crimes during that time in history" and that you should "judge the Church's actions by the moral standards of the time", you don't have a leg to stand on. If a religion claims to have a moral authority on truth, then it is it's responsibility to be morally superior to everyone else at all times.
adi87tya 1 month ago
@adi87tya My 'point', is a response, not an argument on behalf of any Church. The mistake is to believe or to accept that any order or religion or has a monopoly on truth. That's my point and my examples, which by the way, do nor occur at the same time as the Inquistion but after the 'Enlightenment' bear that out. It seems more a case of 'monkey see, monkey do, don't you think! Thanks for your reply, blissfully clear of insult and profanity, I appreciate the argument :)
breedak 1 month ago
@breedak Sure -- but the debate is whether the "Catholic Church is a force for good". The answer to that should be that whenever power on people's minds is concentrated in one single entity with a powerful leader, it cannot be a force for good.
adi87tya 1 month ago
It's also very interesting just how many pompous comments come from "Brits!" Wouldn't happen to be competing with kasperhauseredux from "Oxford" by any chance?
einrib4truth 1 month ago
@einrib4truth Ah, so obviously it's impossible for me to come from "Oxford", right? I mean, because I live in "Los Angeles", it just couldn't be the case that I grew up in "Oxford", or was educated in "Cambridge" for that matter? I'm certainly a pompous Brit though, albeit an expat one. Cheers!
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago
Well in the UK they used to have them, but I believe they are closing many down! Not that I live there any more. The internet, as a tool for untold "World-Wide" information and at ones finger-tips whether your in bed or in the garden is immensely practical and marvellous as you are obviously using it? And does one honestly believe "Everything" that is put into books in a "Library?" If I were to have sourced all my information from a "Library" it would have taken me "YEARS!" Sorry sir it's out
einrib4truth 1 month ago
2:40 Woman - Oh Um, I have a question!? Oh wait, not an open forum?
darktheslayer420 1 month ago
I still prefer Catholicism to Henry VIII's ego-driven church of england farce. bring back bloody mary!
fluffyfuzzbox 1 month ago
@fluffyfuzzbox
Bishop Odo (half brother of Wiiliam I) robbed the county of Kent blind, in order to BUY the Papacy for himself. He didn't manage it, but he COULD have. There are various means of gaining Kingship, but E-Bay isn't one of them.
Nobody expects the Tudor Inquisition.
johnpetermalcolm 1 month ago
Great speech, the cath ch destroyed my country with its fake dogma and lack of moral integrity.Their lies and hokey cokey rituals infected and infiltrated all levels of the government, schools, media and commerce until no1 could do anything without the say so of the cardinals.
The people of my country were once creative, proud and just, but now are blinded moral vacuums open to anything the dress wearing priests insinuate, and the country has descended into an economic and moral wasteland
sidvidkid 1 month ago 2
@sidvidkid I had no idea, Sid. I always imagined NZ to be a country where freethought and rationalism would flourish. I had no idea the church had a strong hold down there.
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago
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@kasperhauseredux
Who said anything about NZ?
sidvidkid 1 month ago
Stephen Fry for pope
Neverwishy 2 months ago 3
When you decide to open your eyes (before its too late) and start to use the intelligence you were (I assume) born with; then just maybe... you will also use "CAPITOLS!" to express what you know to be FACTS! But; as so many of the Brain-dead Media manipulated masses... they ONLY believe it... if it comes from their God-like information boxes! The ONLY place one can (at the Moment) get FACTS! is this internet, but I feel your NOT interested in facts are you?
einrib4truth 2 months ago
@einrib4truth
Quote: "The ONLY place one can (at the Moment) get FACTS! is this internet...."
Unfortunately, the internet is also a great place to find ill-informed drivel peddled by the delusional, the paranoid, various flavors of crackpot conspiracy theorists and the just plain mentally ill. But, y'know, I suppose ALL CAPS really is cruise control for cool, and 100 internets to you for not rambling on about a ZOMG HUGE ZIONIST NEW WORLD ORDER CONSPIRACY!!!! At least, not yet...
kasperhauseredux 2 months ago
@kasperhauseredux Yes I remember now, your the "pseudo Intellect" from "OXFORD England!" now living amongst the ignorant uncouth "American's aren't you?
einrib4truth 1 month ago
@einrib4truth
Are there not libraries in your country anymore?
johnpetermalcolm 1 month ago
Steven Fry is not only "gay, he is also Jewish, and is purposely spurting all this Jewish propaganda Bile (Although TRUE!) on the Jewish OWNED "BBC" against Catholicism/Christianity, (and I subscribe to NO Religion!) Wake-Up!" and Understand WHO Created ALL The Propaganda on "AIDS!" Watch if you can? "HIV-AIDS fact or fraud 2hrs on You tube"
It's TIME WORLD...to WAKE-UP to what is Stealthily and Deceivingly being Orchestrated all over the World. Go to: wake-upbeforeitstoolate(dot)com UNITE!
einrib4truth 2 months ago
@einrib4truth Your comment about the BBC being 'Jewish owned' is the only true (not to mention coherent) part of your post. The BBC is owned by Jews. And Muslims, Christians, atheists, Scientologists, Rastafarians, Pastafarians, Buddhists and Wiccans. The BBC is funded, and owned, by the citizens of the United Kingdom. Incidentally, why is it that the Chemtrail-obsessed, AIDS-denying, 911-was-an-inside-job-loving tin foil hat brigade insist on random use of ALL CAPS??? I smell a conspiracy.
kasperhauseredux 2 months ago 4
@kasperhauseredux brilliant, now that is what i call an answer, good work
gazoopi 2 months ago
@kasperhauseredux
Slight correction, The bbc is funded by the uk government, using the money from the people. It may seem like i am nit picking, but the difference is very important.
The uk government, and ultimately the head of state pull the strings of the bbc, the people have little or no control over what it disseminates. I remind you that the tv license which funds the bbc is compulsory, not voluntary, so the people have no way to withdraw or adjust its funding.
sidvidkid 1 month ago
@sidvidkid Well yes, except the License isn't technically compulsory - it isn't like a tax that all employed citizens are required to pay by law. You only need one if you own a TV or radio, which obviously you're free to abstain from. Here in the US the BBC model is looked upon with suspicion - it's 'Socialized Broadcasting' much like the NHS is 'Socialized Medicine'. However, given the crap that passes for TV in the US (especially the awful news reporting) and the BBC's frequent...
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago
@kasperhauseredux ...run-ins with the Government, it's a very long way from 'state run TV' indeed. The closest the US has to a Jeremy Paxman is someone like Jon Stewart, ostensibly a comedian, which is pretty alarming. Ultimately the BBC has a duty to the British people to be impartial. Now, it may not always succeed brilliantly in that, but it does a much better job of it than broadcast media here, which is in the constant thrall of advertisers and a fear of controversy.
kasperhauseredux 1 month ago
@kasperhauseredux
I think the bbc is a mouthpiece for the government, as are all state broadcasters, and any "run ins with government" are contrived and when examined closely are not really run ins at all.
I dont see much difference at all between fox or the beeb, and any slight differences are in how the respective governments wish to be seen by the world. USA gov is the authoritarian right wing "father" figure, while the UK gov is the pretend caring nagging left wing "mum"
sidvidkid 1 month ago
@kasperhauseredux
And in the end it is all just propaganda, the goal of which is to frame any and all debates and controversys within predefined boundaries so as to insinuate those predfefined boundaries within the minds of viewers which precludes them, subconsciously, from ever straying outside those boundaries.
When viewing any MSM outfit, always ask "what is beyond their boudaries, what will they never say". this is usually where the truth is to be found.
sidvidkid 1 month ago
@einrib4truth of course he's jewish, look at that nose!!!!!
kmica2008 1 month ago
I concur whole-heartedly with everything that Stephen Fry said apart from his homosexuality... It genuinely makes me upset that I don't have a chance with that beautiful, intellectually brilliant, hilarious, charming man. We need so much more people like him on this planet, for I firmly believe the world is a better place with him in it.
KelloggsMaria 2 months ago
@KelloggsMaria
Maria, look up 'Stephen Fry Serenade' on YouTube. I think you'll like it!
kasperhauseredux 2 months ago
the catholic church will be dead soon enough ppl are feed up with their wealth wheeling crap ! SELL THE VATICAN AN FEED / HOUSE THE POOR ! may they follow their own teachings at least 1 time !
flexbrat 2 months ago
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Invesigator 2 months ago
@Invesigator Too many Youtube users are anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Why is this?
kasperhauseredux 2 months ago
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@kasperhauseredux Because the mainstream media will not discuss it.
Invesigator 2 months ago
@kasperhauseredux
"Too many Youtube users are anti-Semitic 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Why is this?"
I would say, because of the strong presence of religion in this world.
If you're brought up (religiously) not to question it, and to just accept it at face value, then you're more likely to accept conspiracy theories "off the cuff".
Religion has literally trained (brainwashed) people into taking things "as is".
This is how it looks to me. Do you agree at all?
ExtremeBogom 2 months ago
@ExtremeBogom
Not necessarily, but I agree that it plays a big part in it. The illogical mindset required to believe despite the massive amount of evidence to the contrary (Moon Landing, Jews controlling the world, etc.) also applies to religion. Or at least it applies to dogmatic belief structures such as the Catholic Church, where only some of their ceremonies are based on their Holy Book.
DLQwijibo 2 months ago
@DLQwijibo
"massive amount of evidence to the contrary (Moon Landing"
There you go prove people will believe all sorts of crap for all sorts of silly reasons.
gorilla199uncensored 2 months ago
@ExtremeBogom Absolutely, although I think religion is often more a symptom of irrationality than a direct cause. I think one of the characteristics of humans is our need to see connections, even when they're not there. We're storytelling animals, so conspiracy theories - like religion - appeal to use because they allow us to make connections, and draw conclusions, while putting in the minimum of effort.
kasperhauseredux 2 months ago
Thank God for Stephen Fry :P
SiliconBong 2 months ago
A black Cardinal eh? Palying the race card over here so I would feel uncomfortable insulting a clergyman in this case! FUCK!
Voodoofreak35 2 months ago
@Voodoofreak35 Well, to be fair, the debate also included an extremely unattractive woman, a gay man and an alcoholic, so insulting any of them would be a potential minefield of political incorrectness.
kasperhauseredux 2 months ago 9
@kasperhauseredux
I love your answer!
Cassermain 2 months ago
@kasperhauseredux Agreed, but I think it'd be best if we didn't attack the speaker, but what he or she is saying. Let's discuss or argue ideas, not the credibility of the speaker.
adamav 1 month ago
7:50 oh man... that was funny
Denethorable 2 months ago
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Atheist=Lazy cowards who refuse to do the homework
SpeedyTase 2 months ago
@SpeedyTase That is called stereotyping...
thegreekperv 2 months ago
@SpeedyTase How does that make sense at all?
cwh2424 2 months ago
all religions are evil liars ! cults nothing more nothing less ! let all these religions as said by their jesus give away give up all their worldly goods an follow him , jesus may have been a good man but in no way a god , maybe alien who had a good idea to teach humans to respect others ? who knows really ? ! the pope hell with him to the VOID HE AWAITS !
flexbrat 2 months ago
all religions are evil liars !
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Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have successfuly framed themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 2 months ago
Actualy, the authentic Catholic Church is a force for good and St. Thomas More truly is a saint and he was martyred for defending the faith because King Henry wanted to get divorced. Stephen Fry is so full of turkey stuffing. He expresses "no quarrel" with the individual Catholic devout person but hey... If you criticize what I believe then you are indetibly criticizing me aswell.
LatinPrayers 2 months ago
@LatinPrayers He stood against a man who wanted to stop living with a woman. What an achievement. He burned people alive, he tortured people. In my opinion christ ouwldn't like people being burned. Also, if I remember rightly, after his arrest he recounted his position concerning the king's divorce wihtout being tortured. He's no saint by Christ's standards, he's not even a saint by Catholic standards because he recounted his beliefs.
yossariancomplex 2 months ago
@yossariancomplex Divorcement is a mortal sin and he was not apart of it. If St Thomas More recanted what he had said then they would not have executed him. Of course the king and the people who condemned St Thomas More would have made rumors saying that he recanted but he obviously didn't, Saying Christ standards and Catholic standards is the same thing...
LatinPrayers 2 months ago
@LatinPrayers Thank you for showing all what religious logic is, breaking up with a woman is worse than burning alive and torturing people.
19780433 1 week ago
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LatinPrayers 2 months ago
Well Done Stephen
linkinpark4eva2k7 2 months ago
Stephen Fry, you are my moral role model.
escthepresent 2 months ago
tell the ROMAN catholic power structure ... to either
PUT UP
or (and I risk the censure of those who don't respect BLUE COLLAR rhetoric) eat shit and bark at the moon..
the roman catholic church is a tool of those who have too much on this earth... and PACIFIES those who are the REAL VICTIMS...
THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH... LITERALLY "SHITS" ON THE POOR...
FOR...........the.....RICH.......
dirtbagcatholics 2 months ago
EVALUATE WHAT YOU SEE ABOUT THE >>>>ROMAN<<<< CATHOLIC CHURCH..... And hold their feet to the fire....
GOD DEMANDS THAT WE ACT ON BEHALF OF HUMAN DIGNITY!!!!
Make the roman catholic double crossers live up to minimum standards of fair and ethical behavior... Or pack up and go home......
dirtbagcatholics 2 months ago
To those who say, " You can't judge a religion by the people in it!!!" .... I say.... bull shit!!!
Most inhabitants of the world today recognize the statement..." You can judge a tree by the fruit it bears."
Why is the ROMAN Catholic Church... so immune to any and all critical evaluation? (ANSWER... THE POWER STRUCTURE WANTS YOU TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY)???
"">> TAKE A GOOD ...LONG ....LOOK AT THE ...>>>ROMAN.... I SAY.....ROMAN catholic church....... and see and >>>EVALUATE....EVALUATE WHAT
dirtbagcatholics 2 months ago