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  • lars uses more fils and breaks, joey falling asleep or beating basically one thing through whole song

  • Listen Justice for All and shut up

  • too slow for joey ¬.¬

  • EARGASM

  • are you passing daşşak?

  • hey guys come on .. how old is joey and how old is lars ??? well lars is older than joy and he can't play drums like the old days well you can't compare the new lars ulrich with joey jordison.. lars is now 47 years old and joy is 36 .. do you remember lars ulrich when he was 36 ?? do you remember how fast he was ? of course now joey is better than lars

    well it's sad but true

  • @MetalWar10 Lars was always one of the worst metal drummers in history lol

  • @MetalWar10 i totally agree dude!

  • @MetalWar10 age really isnt a contributing factor at all. My drum teacher's 61 and he's got some of the fastest hands ive ever seen.

  • @MetalWar10 how old is dave lombardo ? have you seen his 2011 live shows . . hes still fast maybe 5% of his speed was lost due to his age or something

  • One comment to make, if joey sucks? then why is he so sort after by most heavy metal bands when their drummer cant play? surely if he wasnt as good or better than lars metalica wouldnt have him and just go for anyone to fill his shoes? bottom line is, joey is awesome i accept people have their own taste but what some people are saying is pure opinion and the fact is that he is amazing hence so many bands ask for his help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @zahedzed

    Joey is "so sought after" because of one reason: He'll do it, he'll whore himself out when others are doing their own projects.

    Rob Zombie phoned Joey to see if he knew anyone and he said "yes, me". Rob didn't ask Joey at all.

  • @Hellwyck

    Joey joined Rob Zombie because Slipknot were on a break and he was bored, why wouldnt Rob want him??

    Who cares if he was asked or if he offered to play.

    Joey will always be a part of Slipknot and they are his first priority. But if you are as talented as him would you not want to help out. Hes filled in for both KORN and SATYRICON. Bands need great drummers as they are the heart & soul of a band & required for keeping the timing right.

  • @Hellwyck And rob was probably devestated to have Joey... <.<

  • notice how better it is with joey

  • you are great joey jordison

  • Lars is a lot more creative then joey, joey just thinks about being fast and to show himself, and slipknot sucks. however...compare lars' drums in the Justice Album, in any song, to any song that joey has ever recorded...lars' ones are a lot more nice to hear

    (p.s.: sorry for my english)

  • @MrIvansl fuck you. slipknot rocks. just cause u hate slipknot doesn't mean you have to talk shit bout them. yes joey jordison is fast, and drummers are inspired by his speed. and in my opinion, joey collaborated with metallica because some of their songs are fast, and joey is fast. and if you don't like, kiss my ass.

  • @MrIvansl hell no dude.... while joeys faster he also is way more creative lol...listen to any slipknot song live

  • joey is better then lars but slipknot needs joey...

  • It sounds weird when its actually on beat...

  • I agree lars belongs with metallica, look any good drummere can play other bands songs some may think better than the other

  • Lars really just has a unique style that is really his own. He goes more with the flow rather than ultra mega speed that jordison is capable of doing. Both are great drummers. Although Jordison would probably blow him away in a drum battle.

  • fuck all the Haters Lars is fucking 47 years old and can still even play the drums FACT! Lars is better then Jordinson 

  • @DruumStixx Yes lars is 47 but he plays slow rythem stuff, When Joey is 47 he will be playing fast shit haha! and i mean yes lars is great cause with out lars we would not have half the bands we have today!

    but not joey he Loved KISS:)

  • @TheSlipKnotJoey1 Lars was as fast as Joey when he was younger sorry bro Joey's age is gonna catch up to him sooner or later he'll still be good just not as fast witch is fine you dont need top play fast to be good sometimes playing fast is terrible

  • @DruumStixx

    Yea your right man! but if u watch joeys roadrunner video the 10 min one it shows the real joey!

    Yea every one will say what they want about someone but yea cheek it out!

  • @DruumStixx

    Yea u are right!

    but we really cant say who better cause all drummers are diff! but yea age will catch up to joey but he will still be able to play some what fast cause the musle doesnt really go away! but watch the roadrunner video with joey the 10 min one!:P

  • joey is good but i dont like the whole makeup thing its kind of gay why not just show ur face

  • once you i heard a metallica song,i already knew if it was lars or someone else..Lars has a trademark.

  • joey is my favourite drumer but yeh lars does belong with metallica 

  • Joey is better than Lars blablabla WHO CARES! THE PROBLEM IS: HOW THE FUCK CAN KIRK SING SOOO GODDAMN BAD????

  • funny how people compare lars with joey,

    an old dog runs slower then a young dog, you know why? because the old dog hasn't that much energy anymore or the sense of smell. so does lars with drumming, they still can do it, but not as they used to be when they were young, and ofcourse, if they have the same age, the one could be better then the other... sorry for my bad english xD

  • @coolee30 copy+paste ftw? i'v seen this comment a few times now lol. But i agree with it nonetheless.

  • LARS IS A TOTAL EGO-MANIAC SO I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT JOEY IS A FAR SUPERIOR PLAYER.

  • @adamski177

    Lars openly admits that...look for what he says about Lombardo ( who schools Joey).

    The fact of the matter is, even though both Dave and Joey are better player, Lars in light years ahead as the better musician.

  • this song is just too fucking slow for Joey!!

  • BUT FFFUCKING HEAVYYY....

  • @360freakazoidguy well exactly yes they do play different "genres" of music, but this goes exactly with the point, even vs a young ulrich id still say joey has it like if say lars could play something like (Sic) id shut up, but i really dont think he could.....they are BOTH great drummers sure i just really think age separated joey just has more talent, im a huge metallica fan i even like parts of their "BAD" cds, but i still judge by ability and talent

  • Joey is not better than Lars.... he is just faster... cause slipknot plays another genre in music...... don´t compare, metallica was, is and will be a classic band.... slipknot is pure noise!!!.... although joey plays the drums good!!... by the way if you don´t know ... was an honor and a pleasure for Joey playing with metallica, he almost cried for it!!....

  • @jccl1987 Pretty sure , Joey had to master every other aspect of drumming before he got to where he is. He didn't just play thrashy stuff. you should think about what your saying. Joeys got more spunk than lars , more go , more emphasis. in every aspect Joey is a much better drummer.

  • Joey is okey... But Lars is the man for Metallica!

  • Joey's drums sounds bored....

  • @lordfrozen29 if joeys drums sound bored, it's because lars wrote em. he's playing pretty much the same way lars does

  • joey must have slept through this entire song!!!!

  • The song is named "Sad but true" you idiots. The poster wasn't taking a dig at Joey...

  • @ichbineinenKartoffel The masks that all the slipknot members wear, they put their feelings into it. like corey's is about shit he's gone through. and the rest idk about. but thats why they have the masks

  • Jordinson is a great drummer but that mask is just so fucking faggy. There is NOTHING cool about wearing some gay mask when you play. It doesn't add to anything, you're not original, just totally lame.

  • if only james had sung better,this concert wouldv been perfect

  • @Judas600

    I totally agree, James is really not having the day here, he sounds way off in places, "nothing else matters" sounds embarrrasssing, but, the whole thing was either go home early or at lest throw some kind of show.

    Joey was obviously having a great time here, who wouldnt, being on stage with Metallica!

  • joey is better now becouse he is 12 years smaller than lars .. :) sad but true ... in that age lars was kicking ass :)

  • are you with me? (yeeaaahhh) im with you (beeeeeeeeeeeeeeep beep beep) exuse me

    lol how fukkin random

  • go and search another drummer who can sit down and play in front of 100 000 people no rehearsed metallica songs... cant find?? xD joey ruuulesss

  • "sad but true" go fuck ur self

    i hate hearing this shit that joey or lars is better than the other they both kick ass so stfu!

  • joey jordison is the best drummer ever

  • Jordison is so goddamn amazing

  • i heard metallica less then a year ago live and his vocals were classic

  • Taylor Swift over Metallica? are you fucking kidding me?

  • i think the way james changed his vocal style made their odler songs sound weird

  • i love james voice... keep going james :D

    joey jordison is a great drummer just like lars...

  • i got tired listening this song with joey!!!! he is good dummer but lars fits to metallica better!!!! lars is also better song writer from many drummers !!!!! everyone can play a song but none can write a song like this !!!!!!

  • Does ne1 else think he's singing is wierd? It's sad but true:)

  • very true

  • lars sucks sad but true

    and joey rules

  • yea, i mean lars belongs with metallica...but joey jordison is a better drummer......thats sad but true

  • @CBRHurricane6

    You say that judging by what? this performance?

    If you want to compare them, better do it by taking each in the peak of his career. And 2004 while closer to Joey's best days is definitely not for Lars. Listen to the Moscow 91 performance of Sad But True, you may change your opinion.

  • well i do have the old binge and purge box set, lars's drum solos there are spectacular, i never said lars was a bad drummer, but honestly IMO

    if you could time warp em to equal age, i IMHO feel that joey could still endge him out, i mean look at creeping death when joey filled in, the double bass he adds before the verses is killer, and when hes playing lars stuff he doesnt look like hes goin all out where sometimes it looks like lars is trying hard, joey just looks in the zone, almost bored

  • @CBRHurricane6 I honestly think Lars is a much better drummer then he shows actually. What he wants to do is play what fits the songs, he's never really been all about flash, but we see glimpses of what Lars can do on occasion over the years technically and its brilliant shit. I think the flashiest he got was on the AJFA record. And we haven't seen that kinda stuff since but I'm sure he could do it even at his current age, maybe even better now cuz he's been playing longer.

  • @tw19771

    well yea, when youre in shape then you are, but maybe sure hes holding back....but i really honestly still dont think he could edge out joey......

    oh to address it.....someone commented a couple up there, james changed his vocal style because it was too hard on his throat to keep doing it the way he had, he blew out his throat when the recorded so what, from then on you can see he actually sings, rather than roar in anger (Not sayin it was bad tho....just bad on his throat)

  • @CBRHurricane6 well I agree Joey is probably the better of the two, but I wouldn't think the gap is as large as people think. I mean people rip on him for not showing godly drumming skills but beyond AJFA we really haven't seen him go all out, hell I doubt he was going all out on there too. but I have to agree Joey's the better of the two

  • @tw19771 yea, but on the otherhand, how many times has joey blown his knees, or needed surgery or something, i think larz has maybe stood the test of time because he didnt go all out....i knew a guy that played almost as good as joey, had his right knee worked on twice.......

    i mean yea, larz is DAMN good, never denied it.....people are still givin him shit for that napster bullshit.....time to get over it

  • @CBRHurricane6 thats because larz cant do double bass well but joey can

  • @johnsoncabilover001

    well, actually.....he can......a good example of larz going nuts double bassing....."fight fire with fire", but Joey can DEFINITELY handle the double basses much better

  • @CBRHurricane6 i was meant to put in larz cant do double bass well live thats why he dosnt do it often but joey can do it live so he does

  • @johnsoncabilover001 there's no double bass in this song except the occasional dual blasts like 3 or 4 times

  • @blackshadow811 i wasnt talking about this song i was just talking about him in general. I no larz is an insane drummer but i think joey jordinson would just be better with metallica

  • @johnsoncabilover001 he can he just dosent live, like listen to like the guy said fight fire with fire or battery or dyers eve, or st anger, or sweet amber, the list goes on and on

  • @jnoble05 i have listened to them all i am an avid metallica fan but im saying why can he do double bass in the recording studio but not live it doesn't make sense

  • @johnsoncabilover001 Lars definitely does it live. On the live recordings posted on youtube, you can't hear them. Trust me, if you go to their concert, you'll hear his crazy double bass. Just like Trapped Under Ice. He plays full double bass on that song all the time.

  • @theapplefreakk oh why would you be able to hear it live but not on the live recordings

  • @tw19771

    The most technically impressive work from lars was on and justice, and it was only barely on par with what was coming out around that time. Slayer released South of heaven the same year and totally showed up lars. Lars is not a great drummer. He does what he has to to get by. He hasn't improved at all during his career with metallica. Most musicians get better with experience, lars seems to simply stagnate.

  • @foreverfallout Well as I said his more technical work was on AJFA so no disagreement there, I just feel Lars is a much better drummer then he shows. Same with Kirk as a guitarist, I've been in music as a musician and surrounded by musicians long enough to know some players just aren't interested in playing to there full limits, its just there nature and what role they are comfortable with doing. I still think guys like Lombardo, Jordison, Hoglan, Haak, Kolias, can outplay him

  • @CBRHurricane6 you can't compare them like that joey is faster but look at they're age man i mean could be joey's father i'd like to see joey drum like lars when he will be at his age aniway GREAT SONG!

  • @CBRHurricane6 Well, Lars is not as young as Joey anymore, Lars is 47 years old! :)

  • @CBRHurricane6 yeaahhh it sad but true :D

  • @CBRHurricane6 Why is it sad?

  • @Ubiquidade its sad cause they guys in metallica arent immortal, i mean joey kicks SERIOUS ass but metallica has been my favorite band for a long time, its sad cause they wont be around forever

  • lars drumming sounds better

  • This is actually about the same tempo that Lars takes it live. Listen to S&M and you'll see.

  • don't forget joey could never ever play stuff from kollias or roddy lol

  • i agree slipknot is for little children who try to be cool but metallica is cool

  • hahaha metallica and slipknot are very different :P so u think constant HARDCORE SCREAMING isnt as cool as hetfield screaming Oh Yeahj ! like a gayboy ?

  • i would rather hear him say oh yeah then somebody scream constantly

  • Cool ending :D

  • you people talk like anyone cares about what u think. Guess what no one gives a shit about your opinions so shut the fuck up. :)

  • That's a matter of opinion I myself think they both sound Kickass \m/

  • i like the snare :D

  • well I love Metallica, I think slipknot sounds pretty lame.. no I think they sound like crap! but I actually like this version, Joey is a very skilled drummer to bad he's wasted on Slipknot

  • lol u talk shit dude say that to 10000000000000000000000 of Maggots in the face hahaha

  • maggots are what the slipknot fans are called. kinda like how grateful dead fans are "dead heads:

  • and children of bodom fans r part of the children of bodom hate crew

  • soo true bud i agree 100%

  • pretty funny joey plays better than lars (check out the other song of this show) xD

    no offend lars but... whatever

    great show !

  • i prefer james's voice now. and i know im not the only one lol

  • This version is faster isn't it XD

    It's really good

  • yeah its faster cause joey is hurrying them up :D he's used to fast slipknot songs :P

  • They always play Sad but True faster when they play Live, I think it is because of James's voice

  • hmmm....could be that too :DD its a fucking kickass song anyways

  • video anyone??

  • heck. if james still had his voice in the 80's with joey's drumming, this would be fucking heavy.

    no disrespect to lars, the original record was perfect.

    But i think it just lacks impact nowadays coz james has lost his voice. pity. :(

    Metallica and SLipknot rules

  • joey is fucking godlike! \m/ stay sic

  • This just proves that Joey fucks Lars into submission when it comes to drumming.

  • fuck you

  • why didnt they? go fuck urself idiot lol....yeah and what makes his looks emo? his long hair? omg more than 60% of people are emo! idiot........

  • Joey plays to fast for metallica. Even when joey played with korn they told him to lower his tempo. But i dont care who plays there both my favorites.

  • yeah he's used to really fast tempo :D he's the one making the tempo in slipknot so everybody follows him :PP

  • Lars is also a song writter we wouldn't have all of the records without him... Joey is a drummer of a gimmicky band.

  • TBH Joey sounds better. Slipknot isn't a band based around gimmicks (although pretty much every band has them, including your beloved Metallica). Robert Trujillo was NEUTERED by being brought into Metallica, by the way. His bass work was much much better in ST.

  • Joey is a great drummer but I like Lars drumming sound better than Joeys

  • that's so fucking heavy!!!

    /m/

  • i love lars but i think metallica would be even better with joey :S

    dont reply me bullshit like " haha u suck no it would"

    its just my opinion

  • I think Lombardo did a heavier job that night that Joey

  • yea!!!!!!

  • Joey probably felt very bored in this song :)

  • Well, he knew how to play all the songs by-heart so i would imagine he's drummed it a few times before!

  • lars plays this song way better because he made it and joey jordison didnt really know the songs and metallica is a way better band look at the history! Maetallica Rock ON Forever!!!!!!!!

  • Yeah, but for not really knowing those songs Joey did a fuckin great job and that should be respected \m/

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  • I thought this was great.Joey Jordison is one of my favourite drummers and Metallica are such a classic Thrash Metal band.

  • if you hear, during the solo, i think kirk was having fun playing the solo in a faster tempo

  • l love that he still had his slipknot gear on lol

  • sounds better when joey is playing, though i love lars

  • yeah i like lars too but seriously Joey OWNS lars at drumming big time

  • um... what do u mean by gear? He played with larses drumkit, only thing he took with him was the eliminators, himself and his mask... Well some clothes too I guess XD

  • he played on lar's cobras

  • Hell joey!!!Very nice performance.

    Although Metallica songs are very different from slipknot one's, he carried out very well.

  • slipknot songs are wayyyyy harder an technical than metallica

  • ON drums no questions about it :)

  • are crazy??

    in drums perhaps, but Kirk and James owns slipknot

  • why wont slipknot ware Jason mask ad al have an axe? it would fit much better how they slaughter metal... aha JK

  • jason uses a machete or his bare fists and/or surroundings

  • Sounds interesting with joey instead of lars, you can really hear the difference.

  • Anyone got Joey playing Am I Evil.. it was on the setlist but I cant find the vid of it.

  • On the Justice album Lars owns, so there you have it. stop talking shit. He had his time.

  • it went downhill after that, everyone has their time and joey is on his prime right now. both are amazing drummers.

  • HOLY HELL!!!!!!!!!!

    Joey did GREAT

  • lars is something and joey is something, when lars was playing 20 years ago nobody was there and joey is one of the best so far but please please give the respect to ulrich the guy is a school for god sake

  • james doesnt sing the same anymore

  • id prefer james 2 sigh compared to some random temp tho lol think of it that way haha :)

  • Age kills your voice, just listen to Rush's singer Geddy Lee.

  • Ive seen them twice and his voice is just fine, and my father has been going to their concerts for over 20 years now and he still does an amazing job... No one can dis Rush because no one stands even close to the amount of sound they put out.

  • Are you kidding me? Geddy's voice still rips hard!

  • vpower987 is a fuckin faggot, joey clearly IS one of the best drummers in the world. its not just about bein able to play the rhythms or whatever, but also invent them! so hell yea, joey is one the fuckin best drummers in the world..why else woudl bands like korn or metallica take him to play with them?

    fuck!

    :D

  • coz lars was sick?

  • Why are people who know shit, talking like they know something?

  • if slipknot needed lars to fill in for joey, it would be a disasterpiece literally!!

  • HELL YES IT WOULD!...lol

  • Joey can be Lars' drum teacher

  • yes he could!...lol

  • In case u don't know.. Lars was one of the teachers of Joey...

  • Hahahaha. xD

  • your totaly right

  • But he forgot what he knows...

  • i love joey but he doesnt fit in metallica dude.

  • very true.

  • Joey is no bad drummer, but way overrated!

  • Hes one the best drummers in the fucking world

  • Joey is good but every1 thinks he is god because he plays as fast as he can. Although there are many drummers who are faster so what's the point and reason to make him the best?