Dennis Prager & Christopher Hitchens on Valerie Plame Affair (1 of 4)

[timewilltell7]

idiot as soon as i heard the first sentence i turned off

what a fucking idiot - no conspiracies.... there are millions of them

[willforrhall]

You idiot !!!!!!!! A conspiracy is merely a bunch of people who get together to plan something illicit secretly. Any robbery is a conspiracy. They happen all the time in the business world. What about watergate? There are a zillion examples. Moron.

[sulljoh1]

Hitchens is a man of the left? Not quite

[gavbag1234]

This Dennis Pager guy is a complete ignoramus. Seriously.

[Wordlaw12]

@gavbag1234

Agree and listen to his debate with sam harris. He's such a buffoon even if he's a educated one.

[mrjamesb56]

today ,more on the left?....how about Obama's birth certificate ?,....

[me5o]

Oh, Dennis Prager.

The DELICIOUS IRONY of a theist wondering why conspiracy theorists don't find "reality sufficient"?

"You crazy people believe JFK was shot by more than one person... anyway, let me go back to talking to my Spacedaddy with whom I'll spend eternity in Heaven rejoicing after I die..."

LMAO.

[fatcatsathat]

@me5o The work of those advocate conspiracy in the assassination of JFK has been discredited with the passage of time.

[me5o]

@fatcatsathat

I think you missed the point there, buddy.

An adult with an imaginary friend is not really in a position to make fun of conspiracy theorists and their lack of critical thinking.

[fatcatsathat]

@me5o I am not against the idea of critical thinking, but I am against the idea of people being constantly mislead.

[me5o]

@fatcatsathat

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[therealallpro]

It's funny science and moderate religious believes have come more and more prevalent since record history began. At the same rate of this growth, life has exponentially gotten better with these social movements. Yet Dennis seems blind to this.

[Nostatementinthename]

"Life has gotten better"... you do realize that Fukyama is dead, right? You do realize that you can not simply use a word such as "better" this lazy way, right? You do realize that political statements, even those of least importance made on youtube, have to be thought-through and substantiated if they are to be taken as moral and serious, right?

That is no sort of argument. It is perverted historicism, focusing on whatever gets to the point you are trying make.

[therealallpro]

how is life not better than 100 years ago?

[Nostatementinthename]

Hm, well, let's see... We have the the threat of nuclear holocaust.... we have raped the planet of everything we need to survive, a tactic which we continue happily and blindly... we are melting the polar caps, not only flooding ourselves, but releasing enough methane to suffocate most of us... we have yet to deal with the poverty of an entire continent, something at which our attempts has been voluntarily futile... these can be attributed to various branches of "science".

[therealallpro]

While everything you named is a concern, none of them are true dilemma that can't be solved. Not to mention, they also are collateral damage. Poverty? People across the world live longer, better and happier because of advents in farming. And as more people live longer and better and become more educated we have more people to help solves our problems.

[Nostatementinthename]

They COULD be solved, yes... but no such an attempt is being made. The plans to reduce global warming (4% were we need 40), the last fifteen years of complete ignorance of Moyos well-documented theory (third-world-help is worsening the situation in Africa), the continued war-mongering of the mightiest country in the world and it's imminent bankrupcy.

People will not help each other more because they are more educated - which, in my oppinion they are not, by the way; read Foucault, Said, Moyo.

[slyjokerg]

the dumbass seems to think that once a conspiracy is proven or known about, it suddenly, retroactively wasn't a conspiracy. only a conspiracy that hasn't been proven is a conspiracy, so by that very clusterfucked definition, no conspiracy could ever, in reality, be a true. has he heard of watergate? what a completely deluded, biased, idiotic, asinine, disingenous jackass. he also seems to think that because there are crazy conspiracy theories, all of them must be crazy and without merit.

[Samyaza1]

@slyjokerg I was just about to leave a post just like yours... but I noticed yours. Haha. I would add the Gulf of Tonkin and the war in Iraq (WMDs and links to 911) as conspiracies. 

[givebirthathome]

@Samyaza1 Don't forget the Lavon affair, the overthrow of Jacobo Arbenz in Guatemala by the US, the overhthrow of Mossadegh, the deception of Congress into supporting Gulf I by "Nayirah"....on a smaller scale, the "Jessica Lynch" affair, which was not a heroic rescue, the toppling of the Saddam statue ..as a cropped, staged photo op, etc.

[slyjokerg]

prager is such a f'n loon. and often stupid. sometimes a liar.

he has not lived to see a conspiracy??? holy shit dennis. ever heard of "iran-contra"??? how about 900 things we did in southeast asia? good god. the baseball owners colluded against the union in the 80's, it is a proven fact. what the fuck do you think a conspiracy is? how about the kiddie fiddling coverup in the catholic church? are you f'n nuts?

[OperationTailGunner]

This is a great piece of attempted cover-up.

Read Scott McClellans book "what happened"

Basically, Karl Rove admitted to leaking the information...along with Dick Cheney.

To quote Joseph Goebells...a lie repeated enough times becomes the accepted truth....

These bastards need to discover the "truth" of a high velocity hollow point between thier ears...