ACP_Sig_V5.wmv

[Reaver13579]

Are these legal in Canada? If paired with say a p226?

[randybill]

why not use more polymer like magpul did with their "lunch box"??

[evilet1111]

Very nice. Laughing at the worthless comments... Just move on and keep your mouth shut.

[Alex946209]

@evilet1111

My working out, approaches for any type of a pistol, allows to pull out during fight a pistol from the converter, and to insert back. Also I think at the price we will surprise many!

[Alex946209]

Idea quite good, what will tell on that that during shooting to pull out a pistol from ACP?

[FJrifleman]

This is going in my Zombie kit.

[excelerater]

wow lots of hate,looks like a slick little add on,prolly be SIG overpriced but looks neat

[Veth544]

Yeah, I really don't know what peoples problem with RONI and this. Let's compare MP5K-PDW with a P226 combat TB in RONI

RONI + P226: weight 5.29lbs, barrel length 5in, length 18.5-22inch

MP5K-PDW: weight 6.1lbs, barrel length 5.5in, length 14.5-23.74inch

Pretty damn close. Trade off in weight and barrel length. The stock on the MP5 collapses which is why it can be shorter.

[Veth544]

@Veth544 You could go even lighter using glocks.

[YOWHATTHEHELLUP71]

How is this gay or worthless?

You can get this instead of and semi-auto mp5 which are virtually non-existent. Sub-machine guns in semi auto are virtually non existent. So why all the hate towards these things?

Buying this would be the same as buying a receiver to a sub-machine gun and then getting all your NFA stuff straight and enjoying your new SBR glock, xd, xdm, sig,1911, w.e.

Its just a new idea, and its cheaper to shoot than a short ar, krink, sbr in rifle caliber.

[Sleeper362]

@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 Pistol caliber SMGs are so 90s. With propellent technology what it is and ARs being built to better standards, there is honestly no need for pistol caliber SMGs anymore. 

[YOWHATTHEHELLUP71]

@Sleeper362 youre ignoring the the cost effectiveness.

its just a different option.

[Sleeper362]

@YOWHATTHEHELLUP71 Not following you too well. In ammo? That is a wash 5.56 ammo is generally right in line with pistol ammo. I get my ammo from Palmetto State Armory for about 5.50 a box of 20 for 5.56. In equipment costs? Aren't Sigs like 800 without this extra piece? That is about what a no frills SBR AR goes for.

[YOWHATTHEHELLUP71]

@Sleeper362 Since when did I specify calibers and weapons other than the wide variety of pistols? This states you can use ANY full sized railed pistol. Not just an expensive sig, but a glock, xd, xdm, beretta, m&p, 1911 etc.

go annoy someone else.

[ekronber]

Gayer than Richard Simmons holding a bag of dicks.

[RudesterX]

same as the RONI system. It's legal, but requires extra licensing.

[babaz7]

id rather stick with my mp5

[swiftcoyote]

Maybe Sig Sauer should just make a pistol caliber carbine.

[AlienFourTwoSix]

Guys, there are countries and legislations outside of the USA. Shocking, I know.

In Germany people can't just go out and buy a dedicated PCC like the Sub 2000. You'd need an extra permission for that. But a conversion like this is not legislated.

And regarding the SBR problem in the States: Have you watched to the end? Only the LE version has the stock.

I still like Hera Arms' Triarii better. Not as universal, but faster and looks nicer.

[VladTheUnveiler]

Useless as tits on a boar hog .

[HolyDeltaWings]

no just no

[TheAsad951]

is there a adapter for slingshot?

[OptimusTrajan]

Or you could just not be a faggot and use an MP5.

Or even better, you could move into the 21st century and use a MK18/10.5 AR.

And this kit should be renamed "Build your own felony". The idiots that will buy this probably do not know of the NFA.

[trfinck]

I live in Canada, what is this.

[resqr1]

The foregrip combined with the folding stock make it an SBR. That's why the LE model is for law enforcement only.

[MrHarabas123]

cab i use p 220

[wayno0828]

You have to have the permits in the states that will let you have them....for automatic if nothing else



[Austinjonesxoxo]

well I fuckin Like it !!

[5353QUICKSILVER5353]

Gawd: what a bunch of killjoys! Its GUN STUFF, gentlemen...be happy! Its the 'no guts, no glory' mentality: if you don't try something new & different you ain't gonna find a new & perhaps better way of doing things. Ultimately, If you don't like it...don't buy it!

[shawnwade351]

The fore grip makes this a sbr right? This product is not for everyone, but I can see how some would like this.

[williamjpiano]

does not really make a gun more accurate, or easier to aim. At pistol engagements ranges I don't think it is even necessary to use a carbine platform. Firing normally should be adequate, considering that blowback pistols lack accuracy compared to rifles. This is some pretty useless shit.

[pvtpyle]

I am a huge Sig fan and dealer. I carry one every day. But this? This is gayer than a sack full of dicks. Guy you are different than glock for a reason. Why start doing the same shit they do for their crap? Whoever came up with this in marketing and design should be kicked repeatedly in the nuts till they puke blood, then fired and beaten again with their creation. I am truly embarrassed for Sig.

[Alaskapopo]

@pvtpyle

Glock does not do crap like this. I liked Sig about 15 years ago when they still made quality products.Their new stuff is junk.

[556Fanatic]

@pvtpyle

A)Glock doesn't do anything gimmicky

B)Sig's now independent US branch has been doing this gay shit forever.

[clandr80]

Solution looking for a problem, in my opinion

[kerberos623]

I just wonder who will sell these? Will they be able to tell all the buyers about all relevant NFA regulations? About the fact that putting on a vertical front grip like in the movie or the folding stock like in the movie will make it an unregistrered SBR?

[MNJustPlainT]

@kerberos623 Buyer should be aware of all applicable laws. Even if they can tell you, know your local laws as well as federal laws. I don't know if I would buy one (and go through the NFA hoops), but to me this looks way more practical than the "Glock stock" that has been around for a while.

Though a vertical grip without a stock is an AOW, not a SBR. Different paperwork and tax stamp to file to comply with NFA. Only the stocked version of this product would make an SBR.

[SGTH11b0811]

Stupid crap like this is making it really hard to stay a SIG guy.

You idiots need to ditch that moron from Kimber before he permanentyl ruins what was once a good company.

Stupid gimmicky shit like this is not going to help your cause.

[Riafdnal]

Pass.

[sungwei9]

It's a cool idea, but I'm not sure I see the benefit. You're not getting more FPS/Accuracy since it doesn't seem to extend the barrel. You can't have a more stable hold since the stock is for LEOs only. You can put optics, but you could do that with a railed gun anyways. Only benefit I see is you get a slight better grip on the gun? But how much better is that than a solid two hand grip? I dunno. Still very innovative and cool that it works across most platforms with a rail.

[yuda1337]

I think it looks good enough, plus not everyone lives in the states and can own a carbine

[starelikeajunkie]

@yuda1337 people in most states in the us can't legally have one of these, either. not assembled, anyway. it's like those modification kits you see for ar's that turn into full auto. you can have the gun, and depending on the method it uses you can have the kit, but once you put the kit on the gun it becomes an unregistered machine gun and you're looking at federal time.

[JulioCHernandez]

If you need a carbine, then get a carbine. This is fucking stupid

[starelikeajunkie]

@JulioCHernandez because you can just take a trip down to the local walmart and walk out with an hk5 or a mac11. you obviously know jack shit about gun laws.

[hamcheesesalami]

i really think this is useless. take a pistol add a bunch off useless shit to it and complete ruin the point of a pistol. jesus you americans will have anything with rails on it.

[Signatureholsters]

Love those Sig Designers...

[adenak]

looks like shit

[dragonz68]

Nice class III weapon.