Jacque Fresco Lecture Part 4 - Penn State Greater Allegheny

[timboslice001]

thank you!

[WJValente]

JACQUE FRESCO = ECCENTRIC GENIUS

[ProxyLaw]

Anybody should first inform about PROJECT VENUS, and about what this man really mean to say. Then give his/hers opinion, otherwise U`ll be asking question already answered, and stop bothering by talking nonsense about Zeitgeist, Jacque or THE VENUS PROJECT without a real argument or proof, it only shows how little U know.

[DarthKazi]

The main point behind the Venus Project is to divert all the energy, resources and labor into projects that function to empower people, rather than wasting it on bombs, subs and guns. Imagine if all the money invested into the military industrial complex were instead used on high-speed rail systems from major city to major city? Imagine if the technology and engineers who work on high-tech weapons worked on clean, efficient power plants, etc?

[youkilledkiller22]

An interesting read, look up Jacque on the conspiracy archive.

[Seabrali]

@youkilledkiller22

If by interesting you mean slanderous waste of time, I agree.

[youkilledkiller22]

@Seabrali I found the article written by Paul and Phillip Collins to be a particularly good read.

[Seabrali]

It's absurdly verbose, ill-researched and projecting a shit-ton of nonsense, lies and incorrect insinuations into the Venus Project. No, we are not encouraging acceptance of a dictatorship or "one world government" whatsoever. We propose NO GOVERNMENT, whatsoever. By this we mean no human being will be told what to do or forced to participate. A resource based economy can be built by volunteer efforts entirely. This article is a mix of bullshit, slander (misrepresentation) and free market dogma.

[youkilledkiller22]

@Seabrali I might be mixing this up with another Zeitgeist video, but how are you proposing no government at all and advocating not telling people what to do by suggesting the abolition of all religion and 'voluntary' population control? I'm also pretty amazed that with all of Jacque's knowledge of how the world operates, he doesn't say a thing about the freemason or bohemian illuminati, whose symbolism is rampant in the media, and even in the zeitgeist movies.

[Seabrali]

@youkilledkiller22 We don't suggest the abolition of religion. In an RBE, people would have free access to education, so most superstitions would subside. There's no way to "abolish" religion except thru education about science, comparative religion, etc. to give a person a broad enough exposure to be able to understand which methods of evaluation work and which don't. Birth control will be made available and school curriculums will include information about the dangers of overpopulation.

[youkilledkiller22]

@Seabrali It feels to me that the Zeitgeist movement is just replacing God with man, and glorifying mans ability to reason. That's where I ultimately part ways with it. Thanks for talking with me, but I think I'll look for a different solution, maybe based somewhere in Thomas Jeffersons' idealism.

[DarthKazi]

@youkilledkiller22 Thomas Jefferson's ideals were very good, based on his environment and his limited knowledge of the world at that time. People go back to his words but fail to see that Jefferson himself had too much faith in governance over people (even limited governance) to understand it can't stay limited. Governments and States cannot keep themselves in check and always gravitate towards corruption, war profiteering and greed.

[packleader1215]

@Seabrali The biggest difference maker is Perception. If someone doesn't believe or can't picture everything behind government, then of course conspiracies are irrelevant. I'd want funding too if I had a better concept for the planet. To Jacque, he sees it all as "Of course things are fucked up and secrets have always been kept throughout history. All I know is it's time to reverse our errors in judgement."

[TheMidwestsk8ter]

@youkilledkiller22 Your a fool do your research please.

[Jammieg001]

He's probably really from the future.

[mbear14]

i love how this sounds exactly like a George Carlin show!!! :D

[VoxJoxx]

What about population growth, how with this be managed?

[Seabrali]

It doesn't need to be 'managed' by laws or government, but through education, the Venus Project feels that people can understand "dynamic equilibrium" - the reality that overpopulation = scarce conditions, and will reproduce accordingly and control their reproduction with their own voluntary means of birth control.

[VoxJoxx]

@Seabrali "dynamic equilibrium", thanks that has really helped me get my head round this troubling issue of population growth, it makes a lot of sense that this would come through education rather than the tyrannical pressure of a government.

[lili9000c]

@VoxJoxx watch How many people can live on Planet Earth by BBC Horizon, I think in that documentary they show an indian vilage where they implemented quality education in a school, none of those kids, understanding the world the hardship of life and their surroundings, wanted more than one or two children tops. They didn't feel like they were missing out on anithing or being cheated, it just didn't make sense to them.

[Elementorum]

maybe he keeps it with him and re-use it over and over... like my mom tought me.

[vectorsectornector]

You should not reuse plastics that food and drinks are stored in because it will eventually break down and the toxins and chemicals from the plastic leaks out affecting your health. Google plastic bottles health hazard.

[Elementorum]

@vectorsectornector Really ? damn thanks for the info...

You see, we cant know everything about every subject, thats why we have to share informations with each others.

Thanks alot :D

[gargantuandick]

You'd be suprised what people can know when we cut out useless rote learning.

I'm at uni studying law, and I know that 99% of everything I learn is bullshit.

;)

[flchange]

@vectorsectornector that´s because bottles and containers aren´t designed to be reused. If technology was used to make them reusable, they´d be perfectly safe, but hey, then those who make millions by selling plastic bottles would run outta business....cyclical consumption and planned obsolescense are the keys for the monetary system.

[viboud]

I compleately agree with everything he says, i just dont like the fact he's drinking out of a plastic water bottle today, in a society that is unable to recycle it because we dont have the ressources....

[TheNemesiah]

@viboud I suppouse the school had the common decency to offer the speaker some watter; if it was in a plastic bottle it was the schools choice; what was he supposwd to do? say no thanks unless it com in glass I don't want it?

[jrgoku1000]

If you like the Venus Project, there is a petition online.

[RestauranteChines]

Onde estão as legendas?

[FreemanGordon2009]

Greater Allegheny campus on 4/16/09. *All Rights Reserved.* DO NOT COPY AND REPOST THIS VIDEO AS YOUR OWN. WTF

[Seabrali]

I only put that there because people were copying it and reposting it as "New world order" "worst man in the world" etc. etc. It's all over the internet anyway.

[FreemanGordon2009]

Oh, thanks for clearing that up. And good thinking. God damn NWO fearful, no faith in humanity, nut jobs.

[porticusthepoet]

this guy is right on point with every argument he makes. I would like to see someone try to prove him wrong

[binslick]

Jacque Fresco is a Man of Great Wisdom,Knowledge and insight.This is the most Spiritually and intellectually thought Provoking lecture Ive ever heard.I Highly recommended to everyone.

[GameandWatch19]

From 2:44-2:52, is Jacque Fresco saying that a serial killer is never responsible for his actions?

[Seabrali]

Not if his brain is damaged or chemically imbalanced. It also depends on what you mean by 'responsible,' because if you mean "deserving of punishment," that's projecting old fashioned values into a behavior. There are reasons why people kill other people, and those conditions are 'responsible.' No one murders others in a sane state of mind, it's almost a contradiction of terms. No one is really "responsible" for their actions because all human behaviors are reactions.

[cod2maz3]

Bravo

[ricardogaftoi]

Listen again, and U will get what he means.

[RestauranteChines]

Are you responsible if your brain does not work properlly? Or did you choose to have a jammed brain?

[IndividualityMonarch]

He just treated you NWO conspiricists, and nay sayers who keeps putting lies all over the net about his Venus Project.

[McNugget06]

The new world order is not a psychotic cult, it's a train of thought amongst businesses and political parties to compete through corrupt behavior. Alex Jones is just trying to scare you so you buy his T shirts and DVDs.

[tlwdssd]

Alex Jones is stuck in the monetary system with his own values that were taught to him, he rejected what Peter Joseph was trying to tell him when he was interviewed, and Alex Jones didn't test any of it out for himself because he should of came to the same findings as Peter because we are most definitely shaped by our environment

[ROAHHHH]

Alex jones doesnt do anything positive.. he spreads hate and fear and offers no solutions for the problems he puts forwards.. and yes he still thinks with his values and in the monetary system.. even if he got rid of all these people he goes off at.. more would come.. because its out society that makes these people.. everyone who is into the venus project should look up and watch kymatica.. its on youtube.. high quality.. and not another alex jones film thank god !

[eblgraphics]

Great man great vision

Mr. Jacque your message is getting out to a lot of people around the world.

On my part in my nation I have shown your work to all collages.

Keep talking we are listening

[ancestralblue]

We are listening. We're ready to leave the cruelty behind. We're ready to leave the ignorance behind. We're ready to leave the divisions behind. I'm glad to see how many of us see the wisdom in all of this.

[trevfrank]

join the zeitgeist movement and support mr.fresco

[gardenspook]

True Hero

[borat443]

This is the single greatest thinker of our time, We need to run not walk in the direction of the Venus project or we will no longer exist, and we wont so our time is running out, sad to say.

[SoapClawtooth]

He wouldn't want to be remembered as 'the greatest' just someone who 'thought'. :)

[loveofsailing]

Thank you Jacque! I have once asked in front of a social club. Please somebody offer an economical system that is not based on money. Because i felt the fault was in monetary system. Nobody understood even the question itself. I hope you live long enough to see any of your opinions come true.

[ancestralblue]

I think that the money system issue is one that is arising in the consciousness of many people around the planet. We feel the impediment that it creates. We know that until the money system is dissolved that the same cruelties and divisions will NEVER end. In that vein, those of us who see this iniquity are sisters and brothers on a certain level. Consider yourself blessed. You're being called to a more advanced kind of thinking.

[IndividualityMonarch]

And people wine about economic crisis's. In the midst of it people suffer, and their lives are effected. Instead of the person staring at the news speak about it, some now notice that why do we have this system anyway, if this same pattern continues over and over. We could recreate this world in 5 years time, but it only takes a few seconds to change the human mind, human nature. I wish people will stop demonizing each other with myths, beliefs and start cooperating more.

[loveofsailing]

I really consider myself blessed. I'd like to visit that Australian Venus Project campus, do you have any info about it?

[ancestralblue]

No. If you go to Fresco's website, you'll see that he's been in Florida. The facility is for sale. I don't know anything about the Australian facility or if there is one.

[Seabrali]

Yeah, the Venus Project is only located in Florida right now, but there is something called the New Z-land Project being put together by Zeitgeist members. I don't really have much other info on it, but it's not an official project by the Venus Project.

[orangelixir]

This man is awesome

[yungmastrchrysjin]

the world will never be the same now that jacque's great ideas are being exposed to the public. change will start happening.

[konstantinosmei]

i hope so

[somagh11]

and it will happen faster it you aid it with whatever you can...maybe even fast enough for us to see some change during our lifetime.

[otakonpop]

jacque is the best !!

[del669]

Be aware, time for changes.

[EagleEyeKing]

So this believers in all this are Anarchists? I don't like labels but that would be it if there were one.

[Leolfor]

You think anarchist, I would say something like realist.

[Seabrali]

Scientists, maybe?

[SoapClawtooth]

Social Engineer.

[HarveyRex23]

Anyone seen as being very critical of the status quo & the corporate establishment would immediately be labeled as an "anarchist". But I agree, Jacque Fresco is more of a realist.

[EagleEyeKing]

Labels are for idiots IMO. Jacque is a great man for who he is, not what he is.

Chris and Brian made it to Venus, FL on there bikes!

[tx9271]

i would call him a practicalist (which i just made up)

[jcknight87]

wow! he actually tends to call himself that too! haha good guess.

[anonymity11]

Yes very true. Stop labeling people with things and adding an "ist" at the end. All of these labelings are made up for useless conversation. Like the more "ists" you know the more intellectual you are. It is not about "rationalism" or "romanticism". It is about what truly exists in reality. These "ist" words do not exist in reality, man makes them up. They talk as if a rational man and an emotional man exist in themselves. No, I say the emotional man is just less educated.

[vaporarrows]

Emotion is a direct chemical function of the mind, therefore it is a function of intellect. Everyone is "emotional," so the concept of opposing emotion and reason is a false logic, and is unrelated to ones education. The person who understands their emotions is truly intelligent. Also, all words are made up, it's the idea conveyed by them that holds importance. A genetic"ist" surely "exsits in reality." As does an atheist, metallurgist, and biochemist. Words are communications; very important.

[SabitTheMovieFreak]

I just can't think of anything no more, but how to help such ideas get accepted and finally come true!

[elpinta]

Dude same happens to me!! i just wanna start the project right now so we can be free!!

[YvonJrDenis]

What I did and doing. Went bankrupt intentionally. rented low cost house made decision not go and work more 7 mile. got organize to produce family need. Work for cash. buy only absolute necessity's. Spen all time can let the world know Zeitgeist.

I believe that all that will harm money system is real hope I lucky not have education. now can many things. Short story no space here. Life better ten ever need courage and good people around. My honesty my blessing.

[teneg]

amazing... truly the modern Leonardo Davinci!