(03) Why We Fight: "The Battle of Britain" 3/6

[Bwkjam]

@TheYaom Just the idiots who've never read a history book in their life, the war couldn't have been one without all of the big 3. The soviets sacrificed more lives then any other country an they have my respect for what it's worth.

[Bwkjam]

@itzvincentx3 You have no idea what your talking about, for one the British held out agienst one of the feircest attacks of the war. And you relize the atom bomb was dropped years after pearl harbor. It wasn't developed for he sole means of bombing japan, hell if FDR had lived I doubt he'd have used it. The bomb was a dilemma to force japan to surrender and end the war. It had almost nothing to do with pearl harbor.

[ReadyAimDuck]

What the- how could you even begin to claim that any innocent man in this world deserves this sort of punishment for something that another did hundreds of years ago!? Some of these people really do lack some respect, it's sickening. Even many German soldiers didn't deserve the fate that they met in WW2 - most of them were innocent. People just don't read the facts anymore, they just run blindly into conclusions.

[Megablaze9292]

Britain should have bombed the German forces before they send anymore attacks on their beautiful islands. Britain can defend then they can bomb them.

[itzvincentx3]

@Megablaze9292 Yeah I totally agree with you, like if the Britain don't defend themselves and how will they going to help the others. For example, Japan first attacked U.S Pearl Harbor then US defend and drop a drop 2 atomic bombs right on their ass, the fucking Japanese deserved it. XD

[Megablaze9292]

@itzvincentx3 They do deserve it, so we did.  Phucking japs

No racial

[1234567loading]

we are so lucky and blessed we werent born during ww2

[baskovich]

england got some of what people calls karma...........killing people overseas, destroying cities and the feeling of became slaves.....you got what you deserve. karma.

[1234567loading]

@baskovich didnt you see the results? UK raped and kicked the German ass, and you should check out the video clip when UK+US+USSR bombed all over Berlin and German cities. that revenge was harder, bigger and tougher than Hitler did. 95% of all german houses, churches, cathedrals bridges were completely crushed and bombed. France was a loser its embarrassing thats why most people call them coward surrender monkeys LOL

[power635]

I am not saying that I hate the British, but why did they have to ally themselves with the Russians.

I am an estonian and the russians conquered my home and held it for over 40 years.

They even sent people to the Ural mountains!

My grandfather died there!

[mattttttt100]

@power635

It was a case of 'my enemies enemy is my friend'. Although Britain and Russia weren't natural allies and Churchill and Stalin weren't friends, we had a common enemy which had to be defeated at all costs. Who knows what the world would be like if they hadn't? The Cold War started soon after which tells you everything about what Western - Russian relations were like.

[SirOneoneselfandone]

I have to say each part of this i watch, makes my 'stiff upper lip' wobble a bit. Not only is it a remarkable tale, but the sheer number of appreciations from other nations makes me feel quite overwhelmed

[disradiance]

Having Narnia flashbacks.

[korona3103]

Ha ha what they can't say is that bombing London saved the RAF

[JD1010101110]

listening posts? i guess radar was still a secret

[philipma1]

Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.

[bearcub410]

the people of Britain suffered much during the second world war and allied soldiers too, British , Americans and many more men and women gave their lives in the second world war , these comment about who was greater or did more make me sick . like a slap in the face of all the great men that died for freedom

[johnny450gf]

yes yes good show

[fmemz1289]

holy crap! piccadilly circus! ohh i love london and england, hitler was just jealous that berln sucked as a capital. damn german nazis, they will always exist.

[Soloman1001]

The Brits are amazing people, if i dont say so myself... ` An Iron fist in a Velvet glove´ that is how i would discribe my people.

[FuzzAmatic5000]

Some of the comments you people post make me sick. If England hadn't held off the nazi's till Rosevelt grew a pair Hitler would have taken the WORLD! Churchhill was a great man and leader. Englands holding fast saved the world. I'm an American and I salute the British then and now for holding fast, and NEVER SAYING DIE!

[2bn442RCT]

It wasn't FDR it was the 1940's Republican party

[patsyd80]

@2bn442RCT people seem to forget England is smaller than alot of u.s states. They allways seem to compare us to themselfs and find we come up short. But when you think what England has done for its size over the years is quite amazing. But Im english so I would say that but. But you cant really compare defence budget and super carriers plus gdp etc etc america is in another world so thats why Im glad where on the same team with our peole across the pond. anglo saxons own.

[canadaloveswhiskey]

@FuzzAmatic5000 Dude, Hitler never wanted the world. The reason he went after Britian wasn't to take over all of Europe, but to make sure he didn't have to fight a two front war when he invaded the Soviet Union. Which he did anyway. Besides it wasn't the States that won the war, it was the Soviets. Check it out the Allies never had to fight the number of Germans that the Russians had to, look at Kursk or Stalingrad or Barbarossa. Don't be so quick to wave that flag.

[FuzzAmatic5000]

@canadaloveswhiskey I'm an American to the core so I'll always be quick to wave the flag, we may not have been all powerful and run the show but without us the world would have fallen into blackness, but without Britain or Russia it would have also fallen it was the power of the Allies that defeated them.

[canadaloveswhiskey]

@FuzzAmatic5000 And so you should, there is nothing wrong with patirotism, in small amounts. You are right that American contributions to the World War shouldn't be discounted, as the industrial capacity of America was a factor in winning the war. But what I was critizing was the fact that you made it sound like the USA was the sole reason for Germany's defeat. Britian defeated the Luftwaffe without American help.

[FuzzAmatic5000]

@canadaloveswhiskey I didn't mean to be misleading, without Churchhill things could have goon very bad for the Allies, and the whole world.

[MechaGojira00]

@canadaloveswhiskey That's true, the Eastern front was by far more violent than that on the Atlantic. Just consider USRR lost more than 20,000,000 people, killed either by raids or famine. Besides, the plane raids on German cities was ten fold or so more destructive than London's battle. And can somebody really compare Pearl Harbor and the nuclear blasts in Japan? History is always mistold by those who have the victory.

MechaGojira00 il y a 4 secondes

[canadaloveswhiskey]

@MechaGojira00 That's right. I absolutly hate it when people compare Pearl Habour to Hiroshima or Nagasaki. If you're going to compare The atomic bombs to something, then compare it to something similar, like the Rape of Naking.

[MechaGojira00]

@canadaloveswhiskey When it's about hailing and justifying US, UK or Israel politics any comparison goes in the cheap propaganda effort. The most stupid of it is reducing all to good vs. bad guys. Hitler vs. Roosevelt and Churchill, though just few persons wonder why the same bankers and investors were funding both sides. This documentary by Capra is fun and well-produced, but it lacks content. "The people makes war in a democracy"? Holy shit!, does anybody really buy it?

[canadaloveswhiskey]

@MechaGojira00 When you look at it it is slightly true that "The people makes war in a democracy." How? We put the people who choose to go to war in power. Example: W. Bush and the Iraq War. When he invaded the majority of people supported the decsion.

[MechaGojira00]

@canadaloveswhiskey OK, but according to the documentary it was as though a war was taking place with Hitler on one side and the people of the "free world" on the other. People contribute to war effort but not as much as banks, business enterprises, governments and political parties do. They make the plot and people put their work and time on it. And of course the plot has to do with the nation economic development project and how sustainable is its society.

[canadaloveswhiskey]

@MechaGojira00 This is also propaganada. We got to take it for what its worth. Also what is a war without soldiers? Soldiers are people too and they are not provided by the banks and goverments. I've always believed that a nation is like bow and arrow. The banks, goverments, buisness and enterpries are the bow, and the arrow are the regular people. Without a bow the arrow is useless, without an arrow a bow is a cheap piece of wood.

[BritishWarLord]

@FuzzAmatic5000 get it right its Britain not England !

[FuzzAmatic5000]

@BritishWarLord Sorry brother I'm a yank so England and Britain are interchangeable to me I never meant any disrespect.

[Nigralurker]

@FuzzAmatic5000

You also forget that had if England and France declared war years prior to Hitler declaring war in 1939, then World War II would of been nullified.

You also forget that had Hitler not of broke his pack with Stalin, then England would of faced a never ending onslaught. Also to remind you that America supplied England with the majority of what it used to fend off the Nazi invasion.

[spinynorman230]

@FuzzAmatic5000 Both were some of the greatest leaders Humanity has yet produced. Roosevelt was actually very gutsy. The "New Deal?" that was an incredible innovation and very controversial. He was very smart too, he knew that if he engaged in a war with the greatest army the world has yet seen backed by a public who thought it just a power struggle in Europe, he wouldn't be able to utilize his productive power to it's fullest extent, and would engage in a grueling war of attrition.

[TheYaom]

@FuzzAmatic5000 what about THE SOVIET UNION? lol at americans claiming they won WWII

[shadowmwo]

Cool video

[83UtrechtNL]

The English have indeed a bloody and sometimes dirty history.

But they fought bravely in ww2, against a massive enemy. They made great sacrifice for our freedom.

[happosai21]

lol propaganda. english can feel lucky that they won and not germany. or kids would learn about the crimes against humanity they pulled off in africa, india, china and the rest of the world they occupied

[kcsomisetty]

true

[Boccherini64]

Shut up... if we hadnt won, with the help of some of your brave soldiers, you would have been ruled by the Germans.. Get serious!

[kcsomisetty]

simple fact is china is projected as good boy during ww2. The same country is currently shown as bad boy. ur reaction is understandable because you are brit

[Boccherini64]

So you have preferred if hitler had defeated Britain? where would we all be now?

[Boccherini64]

a tad jealous it seems! If we had committed atrocities like the Nazis, we would have heard of them by now, as all the countries you mentioned are now independent. you total idiot!

[kcsomisetty]

To indians, hitler or britian both are same....it differs only for europeans.....reg brit atrocities...study Jallianwala Bagh massacre and "No prisoner" policy of british army during indian rebellion of 1857

These are tip of iceberg.

[Boccherini64]

That is a ridiculous comment. I am very aware of the ills that the Brits committed in India, but to compare those to the Nazi crimes against humanity is just plain stupid!!

[nmlt5398]

Boccherini64 - Please don't waste your breath on people like kcsomisetty. You might as well argue with tap water. It's only because of the events in this film that they are free to say what they are saying, but you'll never be able to drum that fundamental truth into their thick unteachable heads.

[Boccherini64]

You are certainly right there. Thanks

[kcsomisetty]

grow up dudes, if only britian was empathetic enough, they would have avoided the partition of india and 1 million deaths that followed which burns till date. instead they packed the bags and left 10 months before the schedule. what do you call such an administration. go study how propaganda works. there is no good and evil. there is only winners and loosers and winners get to do propaganda.

[Locojameseo]

We left early because we had to, Mahatma Ghandi wanted us out, and we didn't have any money left after the 2nd World War... Try feeding your troops with no money, if u want to blame anyone blame Hitler for making us spend all our money. We had to abandon all our colonies after the war.

[kcsomisetty]

gandhi wanted british out even after the ww1. but british despite promise did not leave. So, should i now thank hitler who started ww2 which made britian leave india?

[nmlt5398]

Good point.

[sendtothefunnyfarm]

Oh yes thank Hitler for the death of millions of young men and civilians. When you say exploited what to you mean by the way i mean what was there to exploit. There have been empires through out history but the Brits always get a hard time despite treating the countries they took over better that any one else (especially the Dutch and Belgians who were really bad). We may not have been great to them but did we not leave them if not in good then at least in better condition than we found them?

[GrittyPunk]

Sorry Sendto, I meant to give you a Thumbs up an clicked the wrong one

[nmlt5398]

What? I call such an administration an Imperial power giving up Imperial rule (and not before time). Imperialism? IMMORAL. Independence? JUSTICE AT LAST. But isn't it funny how ancient tribal and religious hatreds which rip nations apart are mysteriously laid at Britain's door long after the British have left? By the way, what does loosers mean?

[kcsomisetty]

imperial power giving up rule. coz it does not have power to continue. i dont expect british to take care of another nation. why should they? But atleast they should agree that they exploited. instead they try to show that people were fighting and it is indeed british which rescued them from total destruction. no wonder indians dont have basic health care and literacy rate was 10%. It was rich when brits came and became 3rd world when they left. the relegious divide was a beautiful lie.

[nmlt5398]

No, that's drivel, I'm afraid. This film is watime propaganda, remember. If you're saying imperialism is immoral and wrong, I agree with you. And colonialism IS exploitation, I agree with you there too. But 'religious divide was a beautiful lie' is just voluntary self-delusion. To say 'it was rich when Brits came and became 3rd world when they left' is at best simplistic and at worst makes you sound like Robert Mugabe, endlessly blaming the outgoing regime for the failings of the incoming one.

[kcsomisetty]

then what do we disagree than? i dont deny existense of religious divide. i disagree that it being the sole reason of hatred ness at national level as it was projected then. 'partition of bengal' is a nice example for this. i partly agree and disagree with mugabe part. sometimes british presence is showed as reason of failure and sometimes it is indeed true that british presence screwed up the already complex system. plain claims wont work, close analysis is required for every claim.

[nmlt5398]

To be honest, I guess I'm over-sensitive because because my father fought for Britain against Nazi Germany and saw many horrors, and I get defensive about any inference that he and the friends he lost were wrong. That's why I watch these old war films. Believe me, I am acutely aware of and ashamed of the bad things the British have done in the name of Empire, but World War 2 was where we got it right. I also agree with your other comment about "should I thank Hitler" for Britain leaving India!

[kcsomisetty]

british raj alone did not divide india, some indian leaders also colluded and divided for their own gains. none from my family ever fought a war, and enlisting is a strict No, even then i get hyper about history when it involves india or any other propaganda. Comparing to me your reaction is perfectly natural.

[nmlt5398]

Thank you very much for saying that. You are quite right that making general statements is wrong and every claim should be examined on it's merits. Nothing is totally black or white, and everyone has something to explain! Thank you again for your very interesting and thought-provoking points.

[kcsomisetty]

Its just different views.the same ww2 meant different things to different pple. every villian is a hero to some one across the shore.

anyways its interesting to know your point of view as well.

[swatcaty]

i am an indian and i dont agree to what u say

[orinocojones]

Awesome : D

"Yurse, I gaught ah meserschidt 109 and a Dornee-yur."

[Triplesod]

Jolly good hunting, dontchaknow?

;-)

[pogues1]

Excellent history piece,interesting to see RADAR was still a secret.

[LTDcunuk]

great series RCT