Impeachment's a joke ! why bother , he's out of office in 5 months , Best to just send his ass to the international criminal court in the Hague , for crimes against humanity !!!!
Bush will never be impeached. It's a fucking joke played on the sore-losing, sniveling little commie-libs who just hate that their 2 men were PUNKED in 00 and 04.
And neither had the guts for a rematch to right the wrongs of their respective "stolen" elections. Where the fuck is Gore and Kerry today?
Bush finished them, and that is the ONLY reason we talk of impeachment. Be honest.
Yer only half right about Gore and Kerry. When Bush ran for President in 2000, he was campaigning for a humble foreign policy meeaning don't police the world and don't build nations.
The facts at hand are incomplete and you're trying to make a critical decision based on them. Impeachment is not being stalled, it's being avoided, and you can be sure that it will not come.
Isn't it amazing how G. W. Bush, since he announced his candidacy in 1999, has been completely immune to ... well, anything, everything. What goes on here?
fuck the election, that is a sideshow. The people of America know that whoever they vote for will onlyt fuck them over and break all he promises they made.
The two party system is an illusion put here to keep us fighting over little nothings all the while the people who understand that we have a corrupted system/government/money system use huge contributions and thousands of lobbyist to achieve their own agenda's. The world is changing and it wont be long before we will not have to live under these tyrants any longer.
Impeach now! It's been proved of this administration that they've lied time and again; the expense is not only the soldiers' lives but now those of people losing their homes and livelihoods-
This is just further proof that both the Republicans and Democrats are stalling any legal proceedings to protect their own asses from any illegal or known illegal activities that they have been part of or witnessed during this Admin.
** Let us the People of the United States relentlessly call the Congress to uphold their oath to the United States and to the People that put them there. ***
Time to AWAKEN AMERICA! You are living in a total POLICE STATE controlled by sell-out politicians like Conyers, Lieberman and the ultra-rich who put them in power to rip "We the People" off. They won't impeach Bush but they did Clinton for basically nothing but a petty sex scandal. For a great country that was "Founded on Democracy" this is a sham. Time for another million man march to Washington to demand our rights!
John Conyers (I actually met him in 1988) is correct if we assume that the Democratic party is even slightly different. Thus he would hedge because of the coming elections. In his mind there is a difference. In reality Conyers is wrong.
He could help prevent WW3 by starting the impeachment process!
fuck this shit Oh MY GOD we are fucking screwed, fuck all you ignorant bastards screweing this country impeach bush! fuck obama, fuck mccain. same shit different assholes!
Coyers... You haven't decided? You use the word delusioned "really" 65 articles now ahh and you can't find one you like. I love Bush to(scary guy) I am not a representative for the people, You are. In this video, I saw one dumb delusional "person". The rest were INFORMED brave Americans!
we supposedly elected him in office, why can't we kick him out. if you don't do your job at work you get fired, so why can't we FIRE HIS AS*??? FOR NOT UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION THAT HE TOOK AN OATH TO DO? ALONG WITH HIS ADM, IT SHOULD BE JUST THAT SIMPLE. DUHH!!
jefeisdguard - re. 'FOX is still number one...' LOL
"A study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last..."
That's right - people who watch two shows on the frigging COMEDY NETWORK are more knowledgeable about world events than FAUX viewers.
I'm a TRUE conservative Republican (a delegate to the state GOP convention) so naturally I signed Dennis Kucinich's petition on the articles for impeachment.
Conyers...just another invertebrate swimming around in the scatosphere that is American politics. We will have to take it to the streets, people. They have left us no other way.
Exactly! No man or woman is going to save us. It's up to us...it's called democracy - it's not a spectator sport! Please call your reps, John Conyers, whoever. I appreciate your discourse and opinions, but....psssssst....Do Something!
'Not with a bang, but with a whimper.' So this is how America's experiment with democracy dies after 200 years - crushed under the boot of fascism - not because the framers didn't provide us the tools to prevent it, but because the current generation of 'leaders' was too sick and indecisive to use them.
(Oh well, there's always Plan B, courtesy of the Second Amendment.)
Democrats and Republicans both are ruining this country and our constitution (Ron Paul and Dennis Kuccinich are the only exceptions). End of Discussion!
A waste of tax dollars? Are you serious? 3 trillion $s, 1 million Iraqis, 300K troops returning w/PTSD, our Constitution and stand in the world going down the tubes, and you say, it's not worth it? Friend, you need to leave America and find a place that cares about money only, and not democratic idealism as stated in our Constitution!
The democrat Senate and Congress have the lowest approval ratings in history.
20/20 vision is admirable. But I am an American and cannot vote for a Democrat nor endorse impeaching anyone. Do you think Bill Clinton should have been impeached? NO? I didn't either. A witch hunt.
But personal morality vs. international crime? Rumsfeld is wanted in Germany. The others will be afraid to leave the country. (Except to escape to countries that don't extradite like the u.s. but they'll be wanted here, too!) There are many legal cases against this regime (started by Prescott Bush apparently in that lineage!) The precedents in place cause the American Bar assn. to state this is the worst time in American Judicial history...Unfortunately, we 4 dummed down by Faux News, et al paz
You must enjoy Keith Olbermann then. That's truly too bad. He is a moron. And Fox News beat MSNBC and all cable news networks hands down. Live in your dream world. Obama will not save this world. He will create a "Big Brother" state. We do not need big government. We need patriotic people to represent us.
I'm sorry. I didn't know you liked Fox News otherwise I wouldn't have dissed it. But the fact remains Fox was started as the propaganda arm of the Bush Administration. (see Media Analyst Josh Silver 5/24/08 Huff.Post has all the references.) I definitely like alot about Ron Paul, and Gravel, too! All contribut ions from anyone who loves the Constitition, and especially the people, are essential. But the government allowing practical monopolies, while providing 'newsclips' is eerily Nazi Germany.
Also be serious. It's too late now. And Conyers sounds like he either had a stroke or is drunk. Nice Politician. Move to Iraq and see how far your freedom of speech goes.
We need to have the National Initiative for Democracy and vote for a law that makes it possible for the people to impeach if the Speaker of the House and Congress fail to do their duty. Also, Congressional members who delegate legislative powers to the Executive Branch must also be removed from power.
Wow! The footage of that footage of confrontation was amazing. Democrats need to hear the anger building over their many surrenders to Bush. They need to outmanuever him on at least something rather than just coasting and hoping to capitalize on anger in the election.
Veterans for Peace personify patriotism - being willing to speak truth to power, regardless of the pathetic insults that are hurled at you as a consequence.
Mr Conyers, You sir have made a handsome sum of cash on the publication of your book on Impeachment. Now you tell us you have not made up your mind about it. You sir are a coward and are now complicit in the crimes of BushCo. You sir are a fraud, a coward, who will use the suffering of the American people as a rhetorical base for your books and speeches and then refuse to honor the oath of office that you and these veterans have taken.
1, Impeach Cheney and the President gets to annoint a new major neoconservative ideologue when appointing a VP.
2, Impeach Bush and Cheney becomes President.
3, Impeaching both simultaneously is ridiculous in concept and unexecutable in practice.
Impeachment is a sham, unfortunately. We need to trap them under a mason jar. If you want to see the federal government change course, apply pressure to people in Congress who are on the fence, especially vulnerable conservatives to topple the veto.
Nope. Impeach cheney. Block the appointment of Cheney's replacement, then fire up impeachment against Bush. All legal, all within the rights of the Congress. What is it going to take it get the Democrats to act?
Target Pelosi and Conyers. Start a "To impeach Cheney and Bush" chip-in, and raise a couple of million dollars, and put it towards getting their Congressional seat opponents elected, just as AIPAC does. They'll get the message. If AIPAC responds with more dollars to their side, we must retaliate in force. We ARE the vast majority, it's time to start acting like it, and stop being so silent. A MoveOn telephone/picket campaign could probably do it, but they are clearly just Democratic Party shills
If Cheney went down, I bet Rice would step into VP. I have a hard time envisioning anyone else being publicly acceptable - what other faces are even recognizable?
Bush would have to do heavy damage control & Rice might be the only option. She isn't the hawk Cheney is, & couldn't get away w/ beating the war drums as well. Powell is probably still to furious to return, or support Bush if he did.
They wouldn't want to appt a Senator, b/c they'd lose more control in Congress
Wake up people. What the American people want doesn't matter, that is why impeachment doesn't go anywhere. We are just static in the background to the political system. We are a polyarchy not a democracy. The U.S. as a democracy is a government made "illusion".
Absolute SHAME on you, Representative John Conyers!!!
I cannot believe that you've been given every moral and legal arguement for initiating proceedings to impeach, and yet you stand there saying that it would have negative ramifications. How much do you believe in democracy and the rights of people to be protected from injustice and abuse, whether it comes from criminal citizens or criminal mis-representatives of the people? To choose not to do your legal duty, you're proving to be as guilty.
We must ask ourselves , WHY are the Dems Failing us ????? Is it simply that they are in bed with the Thugs in the Whit House ? ... don't draw too much attention to them selves as it may show the country that the rot is so deep that there is no hope for a Decent Government in the Great country any more. They were ALL bought many times over.
They wont impeach because they too are involved in the illegal activity. If they impeach Bush, the trial would cause for 99.9% of congress to be in the firing line for criminal charges. The entire system is rotten, it needs to be purged- new people need to run against these corrupt pigs... people that havent spent years being indoctrinated in democrat/republican training camps
We have to look for solutions its clear the fox cant guard the hen house. We know the government is not the solution. We have to become self reliant, we have to defend ourselves, we have to form militia, small farms and gardens. We must go back to basic humanity and help our family, freinds, and neighbors.
I think he was saying, "If we impeach Bush, then it could set precedents to make it easier for Republicans to impeach democratic presidents as well." So, they all scratch each other's backs and we all go to hell in a handbasket as we descend to the depths of a corrupt, imperial Rome with total disregard for the constitution.
(4:04) "There are real consequences far, far, far worse than not having Democrats in Congress or the Senate, or a Democrat in the White House."
Spoken like a true Patriot! The crimes committed by thus Bush-Cheney imperial presidency - under the guise of their so called "Unitary Executive" theories - are dangerous precedents that need to be removed like a cancer before they become legitimized in future Presidencies. This country's future depends on impeachment in the present.
Obviously if he's written a book on the validation for impeachment, the only thing holding him back is some sort of Neo-con threat to use the CIA to murder his family or him if he trys anything. This just confirms more and more that the government has no men behind the curtain though, that its really the corporations like the military industrial complex, or pharmaceutical industrial complex running the show.
isnt the reason we made the constitution was so that party wouldnt come above the rule of law? Isnt that the lame excuse democrats like conyers use for justifying complicity in pissing on the constitution?
For these hierarchical folks it is all a game. They have everything to lose by going against mindless meaningless self serving rules and goal of their own status and self importance. Basically what they are saying to you is: "me first", "you can go die as long as i am getting richer and advancing in the ruling hierarchy". He is saying "screw you peon", "it is your role in the hierarchy to die for my position and glory, by killing on command". "Now go shut up and die fool". Hitlerian for sure.
why do old veterans where thos cheap goofy looking uniforms and hats....geez they might be taken more seriously if they wore suits and that guy wearing the black t-shirt.....a t-shirt?!?!? WTF
When the uprising soon starts REMEMBER these so called polititions are PROTECTING traitors to our republic and shall hang with the CRIMINALS! God Bless our Republic.
Could it be your inaction is the result of intimidation, scare tactics, or loss of job security from the powers that be? Huh, Mr. Conyers?
The United States Military Industrial Congressional Complex and their corporate lobbyists are out to make a financial killing by killing at the expense of our terminally-ill Constitution!
I don't think Bush is the only leader in the world doing a bad job. If he was from a foreign country he would be more praised. Hugo Chavez, Putin, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Pervez Musharraf, Raúl Castro, Chen Shui-bian just to name a few.. No talk of getting rid of these leaders? why??
Maybe because they are not our 'leaders' but let's talk about leadership. I'm a Marine I know what leadership is. Bush is not a leader and to even attempt to put him in that category is to show that you don't know the true meaning of the word. Bush is just a driver of a bus that is speeding down the road to hell. He is a baffoon, a joke and a very bad one at that. My brothers being killed every day for a corrupt faction's political game is not funny to me and many others.
"He kept his promise to protect us." You make me want to vomit. You sound like a little girl that's about ready to cry. Maybe Bush gets bashed for a reason and maybe that reason is that he and his faction are traitorous criminals that need to face the full spectrum of the People's authority. Evangelical Christians that support George Bush and his policies obviously know not the Lord so get thee behind me, Satan!
I have NOT accepted, yet. So while I love Jesus, I am free to swing hard on all of these interloping anti-christian hypocrites before I have to turn the other cheek!
Sometimes it makes me furious that real christians don't fight back!
I am a civil asshole but an asshole nevertheless.
I like to arge with anyone about anything & will give blunt responses. Try me.
You have no idea what it means to be a real Christians. A vast majority of the "holier than thou" christians do not even understand the spiritual meanings and methods their religion is based on. All they do is live the "fluff" of a religion. Living the fluff does not make you a Christian.
pretty hateful and vindictive for someone who waves the cross around. You, sir, are the hypocrite. I'm not an aethiest. It seems all you spout are ignorant facts and accusations and its most likely because you have large intestines for brains and a rectum for a mouth. And I do enjoy my freedom especially considering I served 8 years in my beloved Corps of Marines and I deserve it. It's you who live on the blood of others worshipping your cult of human sacrifice. I mock you for the monkey U R
U say you served 4 eight years, how come ur one of the very few who feel the way you do!
I've family in the Marines & NO ONE has ur points of view! NO ONE!
It's forgotten by many, that the freedoms we enjoy today is just an illusion, uv ur right to do or say things but try saying them wisely, & civilly. That'd make me want to honor you more. Instead sound condescending.
Well maybe your family is just like you. Personally I know many a former Marine that thinks Bush should have his balls cut off and that's just for starters. You can't go by the opinions of men currently in uniform...there's is not to reason why. But anyways I'm done with you. I'd rather rub turpentine on my asshole than respond to anymore of your nonsense.
heh, you didn't just interpret what he said like that did you... sigh. Are there any more straws for you to grasp at at this point? Can it become more absurd.
Chavez was elected by the people. Ashmadinejad as well. Castro the same. They didn't bought their position they were elected by the people. Maybe it is time to remove your brainwash.
CIA attempted to assassinate Castro 25x without being successful. CIA financed terrorists everywhere in the world if the country was not complying the the US doctrin even though the leader was elected by its people.
At least they don't spread out in the world like a bloody virus to impose their views on others.
Adam Kokesh is my brother and I will stand with him for if free men do not have a right and just country then they have nothing. It is better to die with a sword in your hand than live as a slave and suffer the indignities of the corrupt. Semper Fi!
Thanks for posting this. I wouldn't have known this even took place if not for your video. I'd not heard of this group, nor of the meetings with Conyers. The rule of law in this country (the foundation by the way) is now gone. The FISA bill passed, the DOJ isn't interested in justice and now it appears our congress has joined in this downfall of our republic.
officialusa said,"Denying that statement is unamerican."
I never said that was unamerican. You did. Just like you started with the insults.
Do you end your arguments like that! MORON?
I suppose that would make you a wife-beater too, ehh?
Maybe 2 years ago, we could throw down semantically, because it is easier to comment with tons of expletives back & forth... but it isn't easy to be civil, now is it?
I did not say you said anything was unamerican. I said "Denying that statement is unamerican."
You quoted my statement, implied these soldiers were "conartists", that do not deserve an opinion, and suggested I reference a anti-democracy website to prove your point. If that does not make you a moron I am wrong and sorry.
I just know if I was a marine, went to war to remove WMDs to protect my country, saw my friends die or got wounded myself, then found out there were NO WMDs and the intel was wrong. I would be pissed also.
It is not so much "pro peace", but more like "anti-aggression". Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
Fox is a television version of the National Inquirer found at check out lines. Its tabloid and meant to entertain with foolish claims while sitting on the toilet to help you have a smoother movement. IT'S NOT REAL NEWS PEOPLE !!! It's a mouthpiece for the Neo Con . PROPAGANDA Machine. They make things up and spend 60% giving opinion NOT giving straight news. REAL news Has NO opinion or slant.
I don't blame you... I blame your media sources. You should stop watching Fox. It is not really news... just propaganda. In fact, not long ago they were required by the FCC to label themselves as "Infortainment" and "Not News". Fox did not change standards, the FCC did.
Also, you want to give sources that Bush & Cheney say things about Iraq & Al Qaeda(!), yet, it is then when THEY ARE CREDIBLE? It is then that they aren't lying, isn't it?
That is hypocritical of you & others here to be selective in what people say!
If they didn't admit it, then they'd be liars? NO. You are a selective hypocrite.
I agree - but be wary of ALL the corporate media 'news'. Almost none of them deal with real news anymore - they are ALL guilty of peddling infotainment to meet their own agendas.
Fox just happens to be the most blatant and biased of the bunch.
Ok, you weren't being facetious. You're just morbidly and grossly ignorant, uneducated, unaware, uninformed, and unbelievably pathetic. What worse though is that I am taking the time to make this pointless comment to you, I may as well have a conversation with my desk lamp... and you know what, it would probably turn out to be more worthwhile. It is a fucking tragedy that you are allowed to vote. My aforementioned desk lamp would make a better informed voting choice.
McCain never attended a racist church Obama did 4 20 yrs at Trinity United McCains pastor never spewed hate against blacks Obamas pastor spewed hate against whites McCain never studied the KKK philosophy Obama studied BLACK POWER thru Dr.J.H.Cone McCain was tortured as a P.O.W. Obama had a splinter once McCain has over 20 yrs EXP in politics Obama did 143 days of actual Congressionl work McCain has foreign affairs experience Obama went to muslim school in Indonesia Obama is a Kenyan citizen
Foreign Affairs experience... if that experience counts for anything like american foreign affairs in the past 50 years.. then that 20 years of experience isn't the kind of experience required - making it meaningless.
God forbid an enslaved and discrimated people have any will to pick themselves up from a couple hundred years of oppression.
Being a P.O.W. makes you qualified for president how?
What does it have to do with the tea in China? Well for starters, you listed a bunch of facts about Obama's pastor and not Obama. You're not voting for his pastor.
NO, that is not what McCain brings to the table according to me, thats not what I said at all. So no, wrong. I commented on your comparisons and comments, nothing more.
In my words what does Obama bring to the table? He can bring a wad of boiled leather and it would STILL be better than the shit that we've been eating.
VOTE! Adam Kokesh for US President.
Ikonakonei 2 years ago
damn gutless coward
wanghobb 2 years ago
What the fuck is that guy talking about: the obstacle for impeachment is CONYERS!
atradition 3 years ago
Impeachment's a joke ! why bother , he's out of office in 5 months , Best to just send his ass to the international criminal court in the Hague , for crimes against humanity !!!!
oliversinhell 3 years ago
Bush will never be impeached. It's a fucking joke played on the sore-losing, sniveling little commie-libs who just hate that their 2 men were PUNKED in 00 and 04.
And neither had the guts for a rematch to right the wrongs of their respective "stolen" elections. Where the fuck is Gore and Kerry today?
Bush finished them, and that is the ONLY reason we talk of impeachment. Be honest.
clericimachine 3 years ago
To clericimachine,
Yer only half right about Gore and Kerry. When Bush ran for President in 2000, he was campaigning for a humble foreign policy meeaning don't police the world and don't build nations.
We're blaming the GOP for all our problems.
NYJared04 2 years ago
The facts at hand are incomplete and you're trying to make a critical decision based on them. Impeachment is not being stalled, it's being avoided, and you can be sure that it will not come.
waluum 3 years ago
Isn't it amazing how G. W. Bush, since he announced his candidacy in 1999, has been completely immune to ... well, anything, everything. What goes on here?
srdancer 3 years ago
He's so ridiculous. Fuck Conyers!
TBRambo 3 years ago 4
fuck the election, that is a sideshow. The people of America know that whoever they vote for will onlyt fuck them over and break all he promises they made.
Linguist29 3 years ago 4
This has been flagged as spam show
"Occupy Wall Street"people warned not to let their efforts get hijacked (like the GOP hijacked the Tea Party)
Napolitano suggests common goals.
End the Fed
End the wars
End the income tax
/watch?v=nF30eMuWFHI
vechorik 3 months ago
I couldn't help but notice that the majority think 'jefeisdguard' is 'FOS' (or full of sh*t). Well then...there you have...Democracy!
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago
The two party system is an illusion put here to keep us fighting over little nothings all the while the people who understand that we have a corrupted system/government/money system use huge contributions and thousands of lobbyist to achieve their own agenda's. The world is changing and it wont be long before we will not have to live under these tyrants any longer.
MineTheSouls 3 years ago 2
Bottom line! The Israeli lobby, AIPAC, wants these warmongers to stay in office and attack Iran. period!
You bunch of regular Americans might as well go home and sit down and shut up! You can't afford the vigorish!
fr44ed 3 years ago 3
I think you make a very grave point....Grave as it may be....It's the truth.
DominickBlack 3 years ago
bunch of do nothings in gov. actually they do commit crime.
wasy35 3 years ago
Conyers is a sell-out.
The democratic party is full of sell-outs.
None of them have any courage or convictions.
If you want justice vote for the Socialist party.
DarWT26 3 years ago
Conyers needs to be kicked into gear...
dsmfishgal 3 years ago 3
Impeach now! It's been proved of this administration that they've lied time and again; the expense is not only the soldiers' lives but now those of people losing their homes and livelihoods-
dewin142 3 years ago 3
Adam Kokesh gave a great speech yesterday in D.C. at Revolution March. Right before Dr. Paul, he really energized the crowd.
Conyers is a son of a bitch.
FranG1214 3 years ago
He knows there is treason.
watch?v=odZNebRubdo
WTFaboutWTC7 3 years ago 3
This is just further proof that both the Republicans and Democrats are stalling any legal proceedings to protect their own asses from any illegal or known illegal activities that they have been part of or witnessed during this Admin.
** Let us the People of the United States relentlessly call the Congress to uphold their oath to the United States and to the People that put them there. ***
stevethul1 3 years ago 3
Time to AWAKEN AMERICA! You are living in a total POLICE STATE controlled by sell-out politicians like Conyers, Lieberman and the ultra-rich who put them in power to rip "We the People" off. They won't impeach Bush but they did Clinton for basically nothing but a petty sex scandal. For a great country that was "Founded on Democracy" this is a sham. Time for another million man march to Washington to demand our rights!
cinemaarts 3 years ago 3
Boules strike again.
magirecords2004 3 years ago
Conyers cares only about Conyers.
keytoothed 3 years ago 3
What a disrespectful government !
They all should be impeached. And judged in a court of law with a jury of people that know the constitution from front to back.
Conyers is a coward.
Democrats are servants of the same master the Republicans serve.
Israel, Zionists, Khazars, Ashkenazi usurers.
asperin 3 years ago 2
What's a 'Khazar'?
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago
You are in the 21st century, you have Internet, come on don't be lazy.
asperin 3 years ago 3
Way to go guys! I guess we better impeach Conyers too!
Sheeesh...what's it gonna take?
BRING 'EM HOME!
nick4peace 3 years ago
Well done. Well said.
t4ac3y1 3 years ago
John Conyers (I actually met him in 1988) is correct if we assume that the Democratic party is even slightly different. Thus he would hedge because of the coming elections. In his mind there is a difference. In reality Conyers is wrong.
He could help prevent WW3 by starting the impeachment process!
Beadbud5000 3 years ago
it's amazing, the fluff here. unbelievable.
dudeulartv 3 years ago
Impeach Bush and Cheney
USoldOutCanadians 3 years ago 2
conyers didnt used to be this useless. please retire sir.
callieland 3 years ago
Why the Democrats WON'T Impeach Bush and Cheney
watch?v=yhfPasLxa70
Gilgamesh73 3 years ago
That's how one man can stall the country... BRAVO... TRAITOR!!!
WE ARE ON THE DISH!
freekrolik 3 years ago
Truthers versus Liars, the truth hurts but the lies are killing people.
It's an empire, say it. It's a global empire and your just the military tax slave arm.
Nobody has been held accountable since the failed coup in '34
It's been a faux fascist democracy ever since. Now it's right out there in your face and the innocence theorists still can't see it.
JFK, USS Liberty, Watergate, Iran Contra, Bosnia, Incubator babies, 911, WMD, Iran has nukes, allah allah akbar here comes the bogey man
SlaveStorm 3 years ago 2
fuck this shit Oh MY GOD we are fucking screwed, fuck all you ignorant bastards screweing this country impeach bush! fuck obama, fuck mccain. same shit different assholes!
antikrist 3 years ago
Hey, how come rating Comments is disabled for this vid?
TOOBola 3 years ago
Tyranny born of Democracy
watch?v=UOTyR3xHLi0
fraMichigan 3 years ago
Coyers... You haven't decided? You use the word delusioned "really" 65 articles now ahh and you can't find one you like. I love Bush to(scary guy) I am not a representative for the people, You are. In this video, I saw one dumb delusional "person". The rest were INFORMED brave Americans!
debseakey 3 years ago
we supposedly elected him in office, why can't we kick him out. if you don't do your job at work you get fired, so why can't we FIRE HIS AS*??? FOR NOT UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION THAT HE TOOK AN OATH TO DO? ALONG WITH HIS ADM, IT SHOULD BE JUST THAT SIMPLE. DUHH!!
billsarebullyesyes 3 years ago
The ones that love the W admin are scared shitless.
See the desparation in the words, insults and violent hatred, very scared they are.
Geez he is undecided, so enjoy your days in the boiling sun as you rot on the side of the road:)
DVincentW 3 years ago 3
jefeisdguard - re. 'FOX is still number one...' LOL
"A study by the Pew Research Study shows that viewers of the Daily Show and the Colbert Report have the highest knowledge of national and international affairs, while Fox News viewers rank nearly dead last..."
That's right - people who watch two shows on the frigging COMEDY NETWORK are more knowledgeable about world events than FAUX viewers.
thinkprogress. org/2007/04/16/daily-show-fox-knowledge/
jmsmith911 3 years ago 4
Call your congressman today...Impeachment is back on the table...July 10th Kucinich introduces Impeachment article again
watch?v=7TSxG6sidho
once Bush is impeached all congress is goin down...thats why they are stalling on impeachment
ArchangelSandalphon 3 years ago 2
Maybe we can make a citizen's arrest of the President?
lightleague 3 years ago 2
Conyers, be an American before you no longer have the rights of one!
lightleague 3 years ago
I'm a TRUE conservative Republican (a delegate to the state GOP convention) so naturally I signed Dennis Kucinich's petition on the articles for impeachment.
DillonX 3 years ago
Conyers...just another invertebrate swimming around in the scatosphere that is American politics. We will have to take it to the streets, people. They have left us no other way.
bionicmisfit 3 years ago 2
We need to clean house in Washington!
But the dirtiest politicians get the pork for their voters....their Upper class voters.
So nothing will change....
beckpod1 3 years ago
God bless that Veteran for speaking wisdom! IMPEACH NOW!!!!!!
marcusjansen239369 3 years ago
Its starting to sound like revolution time...
They just arent giving any other alternative.
lordvalgarX 3 years ago
bastards
odin422 3 years ago
Why are you going to impeach him now? He is soon gone. This is just a waste of time. Get to work worthless congress.
blackxavior 3 years ago
the process seems A lot like voting - he who counts the votes decides
lezlitaz 3 years ago
He has not made a decision, but what about the people he represents. Seems to me it would be a one question survey to Michigan folks.
erwickline 3 years ago
Damn.
eversincealways 3 years ago
Exactly! No man or woman is going to save us. It's up to us...it's called democracy - it's not a spectator sport! Please call your reps, John Conyers, whoever. I appreciate your discourse and opinions, but....psssssst....Do Something!
madebutante 3 years ago
'Not with a bang, but with a whimper.' So this is how America's experiment with democracy dies after 200 years - crushed under the boot of fascism - not because the framers didn't provide us the tools to prevent it, but because the current generation of 'leaders' was too sick and indecisive to use them.
(Oh well, there's always Plan B, courtesy of the Second Amendment.)
jmsmith911 3 years ago
Democrats and Republicans both are ruining this country and our constitution (Ron Paul and Dennis Kuccinich are the only exceptions). End of Discussion!
Forlo12345 3 years ago
You folks have no clue. Another waste of tax payers dollar. And this man represents the U.S.??????
Vote for Obama and you will see him assasinated within 2 years after he goes back on his promises.
bvb720 3 years ago
A waste of tax dollars? Are you serious? 3 trillion $s, 1 million Iraqis, 300K troops returning w/PTSD, our Constitution and stand in the world going down the tubes, and you say, it's not worth it? Friend, you need to leave America and find a place that cares about money only, and not democratic idealism as stated in our Constitution!
madebutante 3 years ago
The democrat Senate and Congress have the lowest approval ratings in history.
20/20 vision is admirable. But I am an American and cannot vote for a Democrat nor endorse impeaching anyone. Do you think Bill Clinton should have been impeached? NO? I didn't either. A witch hunt.
bvb720 3 years ago
But personal morality vs. international crime? Rumsfeld is wanted in Germany. The others will be afraid to leave the country. (Except to escape to countries that don't extradite like the u.s. but they'll be wanted here, too!) There are many legal cases against this regime (started by Prescott Bush apparently in that lineage!) The precedents in place cause the American Bar assn. to state this is the worst time in American Judicial history...Unfortunately, we 4 dummed down by Faux News, et al paz
madebutante 3 years ago
You must enjoy Keith Olbermann then. That's truly too bad. He is a moron. And Fox News beat MSNBC and all cable news networks hands down. Live in your dream world. Obama will not save this world. He will create a "Big Brother" state. We do not need big government. We need patriotic people to represent us.
bvb720 3 years ago
I'm sorry. I didn't know you liked Fox News otherwise I wouldn't have dissed it. But the fact remains Fox was started as the propaganda arm of the Bush Administration. (see Media Analyst Josh Silver 5/24/08 Huff.Post has all the references.) I definitely like alot about Ron Paul, and Gravel, too! All contribut ions from anyone who loves the Constitition, and especially the people, are essential. But the government allowing practical monopolies, while providing 'newsclips' is eerily Nazi Germany.
madebutante 3 years ago
Why can't you support impeaching anyone?
MooseOfReason 3 years ago
It's a waste of tax payers money. Plus it would take years. He will be gone in 6 months.
bvb720 3 years ago
Iraq War's a waste of taxpayer money. So's paying all those goons at the NSA to wiretap phonecalls and e-mails.
It's a waste of yours. I wouldn't consider it a waste if it were my tax dollars.
Know what else could be gone in six months? The rest of the Bill of Rights.
MooseOfReason 3 years ago
If Obama get's in we will have less freedoms.
bvb720 3 years ago
Also be serious. It's too late now. And Conyers sounds like he either had a stroke or is drunk. Nice Politician. Move to Iraq and see how far your freedom of speech goes.
bvb720 3 years ago
Well, it used to go alot further in Iraq than it does now.
madebutante 3 years ago
Maybe the bastard was paid off to cancel impeachment.
buddyfreakinholly 3 years ago
We need to have the National Initiative for Democracy and vote for a law that makes it possible for the people to impeach if the Speaker of the House and Congress fail to do their duty. Also, Congressional members who delegate legislative powers to the Executive Branch must also be removed from power.
gravelin08 3 years ago
Against Nancy Pelosi? Support Cindy Sheehan for her Congressional seat - make it the HOT seat!!!
madebutante 3 years ago 2
worthless hypocrite - shame, shame, shame. He talks about impeachment but won't do anything about it. And to perform like that in front of people!
gravelin08 3 years ago
have you people figured it out yet they are all a bunch of pussy on the hill. but there are a few that have to balls but no one to back them.
redrunner257 3 years ago
Wow! The footage of that footage of confrontation was amazing. Democrats need to hear the anger building over their many surrenders to Bush. They need to outmanuever him on at least something rather than just coasting and hoping to capitalize on anger in the election.
GrownupPhan 3 years ago
The future of America is in the balance here.
Why do they hesitate to follow justice? They are cowards not following the law! They impeached Nixon for so much less.
lhooq21 3 years ago
They have to impeach.
Or they are traitors and are guilty of complicity.
Stand for our country and the world.
Go to houseDOTgov & senateDOTgov & judiciaryDOThouseDOTgov
and fax, phone and email
and DEMAND Conyers and your reps IMPEACH
Send a FREE ax at faxzeroDOTcom
Watch "the prosecution of george bush for murder" on here.
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wawuru 3 years ago
To all the comments here: "ditto"
oolong2 3 years ago
Veterans for Peace personify patriotism - being willing to speak truth to power, regardless of the pathetic insults that are hurled at you as a consequence.
MichaelConrad81 3 years ago 2
"I haven't made up my mind, I haven't decided"...
~Bush and Cheney don't have to be held accountable, so why should I? That's basically what Conyers is saying.
archtopone 3 years ago 2
Impeach Cheney to shake the GOP & put Bush in his place.
Put Rove's "executive privledge" claim to the the test, subpoena him again, and get the evidence to impeach Cheney for sure.
crock703 3 years ago
we could impeach him ourselves by forcing the enactment of the National Initiative
oldhacks 3 years ago 2
Mr Conyers, You sir have made a handsome sum of cash on the publication of your book on Impeachment. Now you tell us you have not made up your mind about it. You sir are a coward and are now complicit in the crimes of BushCo. You sir are a fraud, a coward, who will use the suffering of the American people as a rhetorical base for your books and speeches and then refuse to honor the oath of office that you and these veterans have taken.
You are a sick and spineless little man.
So prove me wrong
trauts01 3 years ago 3
Does no one in the United States own a GUN?!!!!!
PsyogiBottoms 3 years ago
Or a telephone?
Put down the gun and call your Congressperson.
Have everyone of your family members call their Congresspersons, then tell their friends family & coworkers to do the same.
Tell them you will campaign & collect money for their opponent in the next race. Tell them who you are & any power you wield in the community.
Form a group to protest, plan some clever stunt, get on the news
When they see that they'll lose power, they'll do an about face & pretend to be leading the charge.
crock703 3 years ago 2
1, Impeach Cheney and the President gets to annoint a new major neoconservative ideologue when appointing a VP.
2, Impeach Bush and Cheney becomes President.
3, Impeaching both simultaneously is ridiculous in concept and unexecutable in practice.
Impeachment is a sham, unfortunately. We need to trap them under a mason jar. If you want to see the federal government change course, apply pressure to people in Congress who are on the fence, especially vulnerable conservatives to topple the veto.
JayKHazen 3 years ago
Nope. Impeach cheney. Block the appointment of Cheney's replacement, then fire up impeachment against Bush. All legal, all within the rights of the Congress. What is it going to take it get the Democrats to act?
TDanza8 3 years ago
Target Pelosi and Conyers. Start a "To impeach Cheney and Bush" chip-in, and raise a couple of million dollars, and put it towards getting their Congressional seat opponents elected, just as AIPAC does. They'll get the message. If AIPAC responds with more dollars to their side, we must retaliate in force. We ARE the vast majority, it's time to start acting like it, and stop being so silent. A MoveOn telephone/picket campaign could probably do it, but they are clearly just Democratic Party shills
lastnymleft 3 years ago
If Cheney went down, I bet Rice would step into VP. I have a hard time envisioning anyone else being publicly acceptable - what other faces are even recognizable?
Bush would have to do heavy damage control & Rice might be the only option. She isn't the hawk Cheney is, & couldn't get away w/ beating the war drums as well. Powell is probably still to furious to return, or support Bush if he did.
They wouldn't want to appt a Senator, b/c they'd lose more control in Congress
crock703 3 years ago
Bill Clinton did far, far less.
RickTJustice 3 years ago
Wake up people. What the American people want doesn't matter, that is why impeachment doesn't go anywhere. We are just static in the background to the political system. We are a polyarchy not a democracy. The U.S. as a democracy is a government made "illusion".
Katwagner55 3 years ago
Absolute SHAME on you, Representative John Conyers!!!
I cannot believe that you've been given every moral and legal arguement for initiating proceedings to impeach, and yet you stand there saying that it would have negative ramifications. How much do you believe in democracy and the rights of people to be protected from injustice and abuse, whether it comes from criminal citizens or criminal mis-representatives of the people? To choose not to do your legal duty, you're proving to be as guilty.
salgreco 3 years ago
We must ask ourselves , WHY are the Dems Failing us ????? Is it simply that they are in bed with the Thugs in the Whit House ? ... don't draw too much attention to them selves as it may show the country that the rot is so deep that there is no hope for a Decent Government in the Great country any more. They were ALL bought many times over.
MasterMark123 3 years ago
complete inside job - it's pretty clear.
2rate2 3 years ago
Unreal but not suprising
monnie110 3 years ago
we should have been impeach bush shit
rell127 3 years ago
They wont impeach because they too are involved in the illegal activity. If they impeach Bush, the trial would cause for 99.9% of congress to be in the firing line for criminal charges. The entire system is rotten, it needs to be purged- new people need to run against these corrupt pigs... people that havent spent years being indoctrinated in democrat/republican training camps
MuslimGhost 3 years ago
Convyers couldn't keep his hand out of the cookie jar!
doobtribe 3 years ago
impeach the fucker
BankOFganja 3 years ago
Coward
jeffreymcneill 3 years ago
We have to look for solutions its clear the fox cant guard the hen house. We know the government is not the solution. We have to become self reliant, we have to defend ourselves, we have to form militia, small farms and gardens. We must go back to basic humanity and help our family, freinds, and neighbors.
pure1warrior 3 years ago
Adam Kokesh- Great analogy, perfectly delivered! Thank you for your service in Iraq but especially here at home.
whoisinchargehere 3 years ago 2
I think he was saying, "If we impeach Bush, then it could set precedents to make it easier for Republicans to impeach democratic presidents as well." So, they all scratch each other's backs and we all go to hell in a handbasket as we descend to the depths of a corrupt, imperial Rome with total disregard for the constitution.
barbarossa0067 3 years ago 2
John Conyers is the same idiot trying to pass the reparations bill!
Reparations?
We have to give money to descendants of former slaves?
Conyers & a whole host of other DemocRATs should themselves be impeached!
Starting with Pelosi, Reid, Biden, Dodd, Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Waxman, Schumer, Leahy, Rangel, Feinstein, Kennedy, Edwards, etc. Just to name a few!
Congress needs to be gutted.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
(4:04) "There are real consequences far, far, far worse than not having Democrats in Congress or the Senate, or a Democrat in the White House."
Spoken like a true Patriot! The crimes committed by thus Bush-Cheney imperial presidency - under the guise of their so called "Unitary Executive" theories - are dangerous precedents that need to be removed like a cancer before they become legitimized in future Presidencies. This country's future depends on impeachment in the present.
jeremiahp 3 years ago
crying shame
wisdomknight777 3 years ago
Obviously if he's written a book on the validation for impeachment, the only thing holding him back is some sort of Neo-con threat to use the CIA to murder his family or him if he trys anything. This just confirms more and more that the government has no men behind the curtain though, that its really the corporations like the military industrial complex, or pharmaceutical industrial complex running the show.
Xakryn 3 years ago
isnt the reason we made the constitution was so that party wouldnt come above the rule of law? Isnt that the lame excuse democrats like conyers use for justifying complicity in pissing on the constitution?
RationalLiberty 3 years ago
most compelling confrontation I have seen in 8 years... that soldier from fallujah deserves even higher exposure.
thanks, TRN, for being there to cover this, and then webcast it.
quicksite 3 years ago
For these hierarchical folks it is all a game. They have everything to lose by going against mindless meaningless self serving rules and goal of their own status and self importance. Basically what they are saying to you is: "me first", "you can go die as long as i am getting richer and advancing in the ruling hierarchy". He is saying "screw you peon", "it is your role in the hierarchy to die for my position and glory, by killing on command". "Now go shut up and die fool". Hitlerian for sure.
hypnofan35 3 years ago
Poor old guy has bought the lie to the point he has no concept of reality anymore... Can we get a few Congressmen that wear the big boy pants?
TimberGeek 3 years ago
Conyers is in league with Satan just like the rest of them.
Dedhedted71 3 years ago 2
why do old veterans where thos cheap goofy looking uniforms and hats....geez they might be taken more seriously if they wore suits and that guy wearing the black t-shirt.....a t-shirt?!?!? WTF
josiahdallas 3 years ago
go to hell you typical moron!
kevgrim 3 years ago
hwo bout a cup of stfu idiot.
GamlGandalf 3 years ago
When the uprising soon starts REMEMBER these so called polititions are PROTECTING traitors to our republic and shall hang with the CRIMINALS! God Bless our Republic.
ljrow49 3 years ago 4
Could it be your inaction is the result of intimidation, scare tactics, or loss of job security from the powers that be? Huh, Mr. Conyers?
The United States Military Industrial Congressional Complex and their corporate lobbyists are out to make a financial killing by killing at the expense of our terminally-ill Constitution!
No impeachment? Gee, what a surprise.
Love,
mom4education
mom4education 3 years ago
that soldiers speech is dead on!
kalvinphil 3 years ago 3
I don't think Bush is the only leader in the world doing a bad job. If he was from a foreign country he would be more praised. Hugo Chavez, Putin, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Pervez Musharraf, Raúl Castro, Chen Shui-bian just to name a few.. No talk of getting rid of these leaders? why??
x11115 3 years ago
Maybe because they are not our 'leaders' but let's talk about leadership. I'm a Marine I know what leadership is. Bush is not a leader and to even attempt to put him in that category is to show that you don't know the true meaning of the word. Bush is just a driver of a bus that is speeding down the road to hell. He is a baffoon, a joke and a very bad one at that. My brothers being killed every day for a corrupt faction's political game is not funny to me and many others.
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago
I wouldn't waste time with x11115. He is a mindless redneck nazi loser that lives in his parents basement.
officialusa 3 years ago
SkinSinFilms said,"I'm a Marine I know what leadership is"
I don't know you. Nor do I really know if you are a good judge of character. But you are human & prone to its infallibilities.
John Murtha is also a Marine & he stinks with the disgrace of besmirching our troops & condemning them before any trial had commenced.
Bush has kept his promise to protect us since 9/11. Hasn't he?
It just pisses me off that that means so little to the Katrina-Bush bashing bunch here!
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
"He kept his promise to protect us." You make me want to vomit. You sound like a little girl that's about ready to cry. Maybe Bush gets bashed for a reason and maybe that reason is that he and his faction are traitorous criminals that need to face the full spectrum of the People's authority. Evangelical Christians that support George Bush and his policies obviously know not the Lord so get thee behind me, Satan!
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago
SkinSinFilms said,"You make me want to vomit."
U make me want to kill my young!
Very proud to say that my kids did not grow up to be moral decadents, like you & your SKINFLICKS!
Ur an atheist. Ur in a country that is 85% Christian. This country was founded on Christian principles!
Betcha even ur relatives in the past were Christians!
Ur whiney statements of Bush's efforts to protect us is sickening.
Enjoy your freedom to make your immoral videos, hypocrite
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Nice Christian retort.
DVincentW 3 years ago
DVincentW said,"Nice Christian retort."
I'm a little rough around the edges.
I have NOT accepted, yet. So while I love Jesus, I am free to swing hard on all of these interloping anti-christian hypocrites before I have to turn the other cheek!
Sometimes it makes me furious that real christians don't fight back!
I am a civil asshole but an asshole nevertheless.
I like to arge with anyone about anything & will give blunt responses. Try me.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
You have no idea what it means to be a real Christians. A vast majority of the "holier than thou" christians do not even understand the spiritual meanings and methods their religion is based on. All they do is live the "fluff" of a religion. Living the fluff does not make you a Christian.
slantythecamel 3 years ago
pretty hateful and vindictive for someone who waves the cross around. You, sir, are the hypocrite. I'm not an aethiest. It seems all you spout are ignorant facts and accusations and its most likely because you have large intestines for brains and a rectum for a mouth. And I do enjoy my freedom especially considering I served 8 years in my beloved Corps of Marines and I deserve it. It's you who live on the blood of others worshipping your cult of human sacrifice. I mock you for the monkey U R
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago
SkinSinFilms said,"You, sir, are the hypocrite."
Just how is that?
U say you DESERVE ur freedom, don't we all?
U say you served 4 eight years, how come ur one of the very few who feel the way you do!
I've family in the Marines & NO ONE has ur points of view! NO ONE!
It's forgotten by many, that the freedoms we enjoy today is just an illusion, uv ur right to do or say things but try saying them wisely, & civilly. That'd make me want to honor you more. Instead sound condescending.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Well maybe your family is just like you. Personally I know many a former Marine that thinks Bush should have his balls cut off and that's just for starters. You can't go by the opinions of men currently in uniform...there's is not to reason why. But anyways I'm done with you. I'd rather rub turpentine on my asshole than respond to anymore of your nonsense.
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago
SkinSinFilms said,"Personally I know many a former Marine that"
Did I quote you right?
Did you just say you know of just ONE MORE MARINE, that feels the way you do?
That's it?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
heh, you didn't just interpret what he said like that did you... sigh. Are there any more straws for you to grasp at at this point? Can it become more absurd.
slantythecamel 3 years ago
slantythecamel said,"you didn't just interpret what he said
I was JUST ASKING? He could've answered himself, why did you?
How can the truth be absurd?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Chavez was elected by the people. Ashmadinejad as well. Castro the same. They didn't bought their position they were elected by the people. Maybe it is time to remove your brainwash.
CIA attempted to assassinate Castro 25x without being successful. CIA financed terrorists everywhere in the world if the country was not complying the the US doctrin even though the leader was elected by its people.
At least they don't spread out in the world like a bloody virus to impose their views on others.
GamlGandalf 3 years ago 3
Anyone who respect the rule of law and human rights, does talk about ousting these dictators - thats why they talk about ousting Bush as well.
Bush's awful leadership is what gives legitimacy to these other dictators. They don't look so bad when the golden child starts screwing up.
crock703 3 years ago 2
What a total waste of human flesh
kalvinphil 3 years ago
There MUST be a MASSIVE revolt in this country. Read it again if you didn't understand it. Read it until you do.
If you're unclear about waht MASSIVE means or REVOLT...fuckin' look them up!
Snowflake70 3 years ago 4
Adam Kokesh is my brother and I will stand with him for if free men do not have a right and just country then they have nothing. It is better to die with a sword in your hand than live as a slave and suffer the indignities of the corrupt. Semper Fi!
SkinSinFilms 3 years ago 5
It seems that your day in politics is lost.
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago
Thanks for posting this. I wouldn't have known this even took place if not for your video. I'd not heard of this group, nor of the meetings with Conyers. The rule of law in this country (the foundation by the way) is now gone. The FISA bill passed, the DOJ isn't interested in justice and now it appears our congress has joined in this downfall of our republic.
Boomer1949 3 years ago 9
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Boomer1949,
Veterans For Peace is a taxpayer funded anti-US 501c3 'charity'.
So are the following: Code Pink, Global Exchange, Media Matters, WCW, NLG, CCR, NION, etc.
Just to name a few.
For more info on these & other groups visit following link below.
No spaces
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jefeisdguard 3 years ago
These veterans fought for the US, I think that entitles them to an opinion. Does not mean they hate the US.
You are a complete moron.
officialusa 3 years ago 4
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officialusa said,"These veterans fought for the US, I think that entitles them to an opinion. Does not mean they hate the US.
You are a complete moron."
Moron?
If you haven't viewed what's on the link, well, that's makes YOU the moron & IGNORANT!
Sure, as you say, they have the right. We all have the right, but at the same time so do CONARTISTS!
Read the info & get back to me.
Then we can discuss why impeaching BUsh is stupid.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
I've seen the link to the anti democracy website you gave.
"These veterans fought for the US, I think that entitles them to an opinion. Does not mean they hate the US."
Denying that statement is unamerican.
FYI: If there is a fox logo on your TV, you are most likely a misinformed redneck
officialusa 3 years ago
officialusa said,"Denying that statement is unamerican."
I never said that was unamerican. You did. Just like you started with the insults.
Do you end your arguments like that! MORON?
I suppose that would make you a wife-beater too, ehh?
Maybe 2 years ago, we could throw down semantically, because it is easier to comment with tons of expletives back & forth... but it isn't easy to be civil, now is it?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
Check your reading comprehension
I did not say you said anything was unamerican. I said "Denying that statement is unamerican."
You quoted my statement, implied these soldiers were "conartists", that do not deserve an opinion, and suggested I reference a anti-democracy website to prove your point. If that does not make you a moron I am wrong and sorry.
officialusa 3 years ago
officialusa said,"were "conartists", that do not deserve an opinion"
Maybe 'conartists' was a bit harsh or maybe out of touch.
How about 'peace-niks'!
I hope these 'peace-niks' don't become complacent & anti-war if we should ever be invaded, like the movie 'Red Dawn'!
There! Now how was that for a civil discussion 'tween us youtube constituents!
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
I just know if I was a marine, went to war to remove WMDs to protect my country, saw my friends die or got wounded myself, then found out there were NO WMDs and the intel was wrong. I would be pissed also.
It is not so much "pro peace", but more like "anti-aggression". Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11.
officialusa 3 years ago 4
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officialusa said,"then found ... NO WMDs and the intel was wrong"
Now hold on there, HOSS!
Haven't you seen the latest news wires?
9/11 commission reports were definitely published prematurely!
THEY(our boys) HAVE FOUND STOCKPILES OF NUCLEAR MATERIAL IN IRAQ!
Saddam WAS planning to make a bomb!
This news is only 3-4 days OLD!
Again, it has also been investigated that Saddam & his associates HAVE met with Al Qaeda operatives in Iraq & in Europe!
Why shouldn't the 'enemy of my enemy' meet?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
some one has been taking one too many painkillers. In true republican fashion.
PersonalJesus348 3 years ago 2
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PersonalJesus348 said,"some one has been taking one too many painkillers. In true republican fashion."
Threw my line out & got another bite!
Thanks for dropping in!
Here is the link to the nuke materials found in Iraq!
no spaces
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jefeisdguard 3 years ago
that is funny... I posted my post about fox not being news just as you were pasting a link to a fox webpage.
Coincidence or clear reality?
officialusa 3 years ago 2
Fox is a television version of the National Inquirer found at check out lines. Its tabloid and meant to entertain with foolish claims while sitting on the toilet to help you have a smoother movement. IT'S NOT REAL NEWS PEOPLE !!! It's a mouthpiece for the Neo Con . PROPAGANDA Machine. They make things up and spend 60% giving opinion NOT giving straight news. REAL news Has NO opinion or slant.
MasterMark123 3 years ago 3
MasterMark123, Thank you... You are 100% correct!!
officialusa 3 years ago
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MasterMark123 said,"Fox is a television version of the National Inquirer"
The National Inquirer? THe liberal mag of liberal mags?
Are you seriously surprised?
Of course, their NOT going to endorse a competitor!
You have to do better than that!
FOX is still number one & even Hillary has admitted to its fair coverage!
Just for shits & giggles, which one do you subscribe to?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
I don't blame you... I blame your media sources. You should stop watching Fox. It is not really news... just propaganda. In fact, not long ago they were required by the FCC to label themselves as "Infortainment" and "Not News". Fox did not change standards, the FCC did.
The material you speak of can be explained here
watch?v=QEGM-9yzCPc
officialusa 3 years ago 2
officialusa said,"material you speak of"
That is incorrect. Not the same material.
Did you look at mine?
Also, you want to give sources that Bush & Cheney say things about Iraq & Al Qaeda(!), yet, it is then when THEY ARE CREDIBLE? It is then that they aren't lying, isn't it?
That is hypocritical of you & others here to be selective in what people say!
If they didn't admit it, then they'd be liars? NO. You are a selective hypocrite.
The Rumsfield video is as OLD as dirt! WTF?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
officialusa
I agree - but be wary of ALL the corporate media 'news'. Almost none of them deal with real news anymore - they are ALL guilty of peddling infotainment to meet their own agendas.
Fox just happens to be the most blatant and biased of the bunch.
bushputz 3 years ago
absolutely... News needs to be independent.
When independent media becomes mainstream we will all be better informed.
Most concerning is not the false news they report, but the real news they don't.
officialusa 3 years ago
I hope you're being facetious.
slantythecamel 3 years ago
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slantythecamel said,"I hope you're being facetious."
Now, why would I joke about a thing like that?
'officialusa' is not abreast of the current situations & his links mean absolutely nothing.
He thinks FOXNEWS isn't credible so he sites liberals links for me.
Wonder which news outlets he watches!
Hillary has finally admitted that Fox gave her better coverage than the other outlets!
Fox is fair!
'officialusa' is probably voting for OBAMA!
Obama the racist muslim in christian clothing.
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
my links mean nothing? They are links to videos of YOUR republicans. Liberal links? They were republicans in the videos.
You believe fox is credible? Sorry, but I have to reaffirm my original position because you ARE a moron.
I can no longer waste my time arguing with the willfully ignorant
officialusa 3 years ago
Ok, you weren't being facetious. You're just morbidly and grossly ignorant, uneducated, unaware, uninformed, and unbelievably pathetic. What worse though is that I am taking the time to make this pointless comment to you, I may as well have a conversation with my desk lamp... and you know what, it would probably turn out to be more worthwhile. It is a fucking tragedy that you are allowed to vote. My aforementioned desk lamp would make a better informed voting choice.
slantythecamel 3 years ago 4
slantythecamel said,"It is a fucking tragedy that you are allowed to vote."
You know, I was thinking the same thing about you & all those reading/commenting here!
You must also be an OBAMA supporter.
Guess that means you want to be selective about your information to & would like to silence my voice, ehh?
When we do vote, please stay home & talk to your lamp, it would make me feel a lot better & you'd at least get a tan out it! Sunshine!
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
The hypocrasy of that statement is just mind blowing.
Go make you vote based on fiction and imaginary ideologies. You represent exactly what is wrong with America.
You are a program running scripts and nothing more.
slantythecamel 3 years ago
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
So don't vote for Obama's pastor.
Foreign Affairs experience... if that experience counts for anything like american foreign affairs in the past 50 years.. then that 20 years of experience isn't the kind of experience required - making it meaningless.
God forbid an enslaved and discrimated people have any will to pick themselves up from a couple hundred years of oppression.
Being a P.O.W. makes you qualified for president how?
The rest: conjecture and discrimination.
slantythecamel 3 years ago
slantythecamel said,"So don't vote for Obama's pastor."
What has that to do with the time in China?
Ok, Let's use your words in regards to McCain.
-foreign affairs experience, meaningless
-P.O.W. doesn't qualify one for NADA, ZILCH
-REST is conjecture
That is what McCain brings to the table according to YOU! Right?
Now, in your words ... what does OBAMA bring to the table?
jefeisdguard 3 years ago
What does it have to do with the tea in China? Well for starters, you listed a bunch of facts about Obama's pastor and not Obama. You're not voting for his pastor.
NO, that is not what McCain brings to the table according to me, thats not what I said at all. So no, wrong. I commented on your comparisons and comments, nothing more.
In my words what does Obama bring to the table? He can bring a wad of boiled leather and it would STILL be better than the shit that we've been eating.
slantythecamel 3 years ago