Umm, Im an Atheist and the best explanation I read in a Hitchens Book " The portbale Ahteist " was... Anitmatter -1 and Matter +1 added together equals nothing. The nothingess was unstable and Kaboom.
A God is meant to be Feared. Fear is a Dangerous Word. It could mean Respect but is could also mean being Afraid. Afraid as in if you don't do this, Your going to Hell. All Reason, Hope, & Freedom Gone in Holy Fire Forever. The Bible also says we are Born with Sin. What?? So if we Sin, in any way, we're going to Hell. But we can't help it, it's our Nature. So why then Punish 80% of People that you Created, Knew would Sin, & Knew would Never be Fixed or Learn. Bullshit!
God is energy, it's immaterial.. it has always existed, it is eternal. God transferred energy from itself to create the physical reality we're allowed to experience.
The universe had a beginning, modern science shows us this. So where the hell did this energy come from? Where did all the energy come from to create all physical matter? God, because god is the infinite eternal source of energy.
@the7mad9cap7laughs that idea backs up hinduism. god is in everyone and everyone is different forms fo god . Energy could have always existed if god has always existed. Energy could be "god" but that would back up hinduism and buddhism which says we are all one interconnected. i think enegry could be what a soul is and "god", But not the idea of god in the bible . energy cant be created or destroyed only changed into a differnt form ..sounds like rebirth.
@DarkBeauty1989 But there was at a point in our physical universe when none of this energy existed. It just popped into existence from an external source. That source would logically be the creator of the universe. Now whether you want to say this energy has a 'personality' or not is up to debate, but still, the very science of the big bang shows the universe was indeed created. This man has to result to anger and intimidation to convince his viewers, uses no logic whatsoever..
@the7mad9cap7laughs energy was needed for the bigbang. so energy could have always existed. it cant be created or destroyed just like the idea of god and a soul. If god didnt need a cause neither would energy. Buddhism talks about the bigbang and evolution. so what I am saying is maybe energy is "god" or just our souls. we all have energy in us and when we die our energy leaves our body and never is destroyed. we are all ONE ...we are all energy.
Mormons are clever about this one. They say matter and energy have always existed, and that god merely "organized" it into what we see today. Of course that doesn't explain who or what organized their god, but that's when you're told to shut up and have faith :)
.... i like a lot of your videos, but who truly knows how this matter that has always existed exists. and why, how, we know its here, and thats about it, energy and matter can never be destroyed or created, but then how the fuck is it here? this is where logical faith comes in to play CTM
We don't know what caused the big bang or how it happened. But we do know that it happened. But all scientists know that the energy matter and space had to come from somewhere. Most creationists seem to forget this
@Lathox motha fucka, we dont know the big bang happened, we dont know shit besides the fact that shit exists, and theres a whole bunch of shit around us.
We have sufficient evidence to conclude that the universe originated from the big bang. The only evidence religion has ever provided was its own scripture. You might not know anything, superstitiousbatshitman. But that doesn't mean you can discredit those of us that do.
@Lathox Alright , i hope you know what youre telling me. Youre are just falling into the cult of "science", of course they dont fucking know what happened 500 trillion years ago. Not a single damn person does. and if they do claim they know, theyre selling you something! i dont care what kind of evidence they have, unless its a fuckin hd video recording of that shit going down its not enough for me to believe, so suck my logical cock after you lather it up mr. lathcox
First of all, this universe isn't even 500 trillion years old. Modern day astrophysics has given us a pretty accurate picture of our universe. Light travels at the same speed everywhere in the universe. We can see hypernovae and quasars up to about 13 billion light years. That by itself is pretty convincing window into the past. Nor is the only thing we have. Such evidence is far better than fairytales written 2000 years ago.
@Lathox idk man, that just tells me we can see really far into the universe, but the universe goes on and on, to a point where its really hard to even comprehend. I just dont understand where ppl get the balls to tell the public something so bizarre and abstract in order to answer the most amazing mystery. Why dont we just let go. leave it at that, mysteries are cool right? I mean its cool to try and figure things like this out, but its literally impossible to actually know.
Why leave things as a mystery when you can actually find out the real answer? That curiosity is what drives science. And science is what brought us from horse and buggy to auto mobile. It might be impossible to know somethings but I won't take some ancient text's answer and call it good. I'm going to wait for a real answer. And the big bang theory is a sound explanation supported by evidence.
@Lathox maybe your right and its not pointless to search for the answer, but im not satisfied with the Big Bang thheory because if we completly understood how it happened, we could create universes ....this is a problem with science, we take theories as fact and stop experimenting. so question, research, hypothisize, and experiment, on whatever you want, including the beginning of all things we know.
We didn't stop experimenting. They completed a massive particle accelerator in Europe a few years ago to help answer more questions proposed by the Big Bang Theory.
You can come up with as many explanations as you want. But if they don't have evidence supporting them, then they are unscientific. Further, any supposed evidence of any divine involvement has been discredited by every test so far devised. The explanation of creationism has long since been buried in the academic arena. To top it all off: even if we could prove that a diety did it this doesn't validate any other religious claims (ie afterlife, commandments, etc).
@Lathox then we agree, but the big bang doesnt have amazing evidence to support it, i kind of find it silly that so many ppl take it as a truth when its just a theory
@supersbatspiderman also the obsession over this question is radical too. ppl should figure out their own philosophies on how to live and realize that the beginning, though it started everything, shouldnt have too much of an effect on the now
No. First of all a theory is more than just a guess. Theory means that is supported by a strong body of evidence. Here are a few examples. Massive gulfs between clusters of galaxies, a unilateral background radiation that is present at every point in known space, the fact that the celestial bodies are in fact moving further apart. This theory has lead us to many more discoveries as a result, and it is consistent with all known evidence.
@Lathox i understand what a theory is, and they have been proven wrong on more than occasion. discoveries are made because we are always finding out how the physical world works. all science is a description of the physical world. so yea some evidence backs it up, there obviously was a reason why this theory was made, but the obsession that everyone says its true...its crazy. Its a fantasy man. theres an inconceivable amount of possibilities about how when and where all this went down.
Big Bang theory is about as likely to be proven wrong as the earth being proven to be non-spherical. And no there is no evidence for there being a "reason" for it. Reason would imply that someone or something made it for something. Planets orbit stars because of the laws of gravity not because they think it's cool. If you happen to have a better explanation for why the universe is expanding, has a background radiation, etc, I would like to hear it.
@Lathox we dont know that the whole universe is expanding, thats just another theory someone had because galaxies in our very small sector of the universe are moving apart. to actually know the universe is expanding we would have to lterally see the end of the universe, map the whole universe and be able to actually measure it. how do we know its not just infinite. how do we know that there werent thousands of big bangs, how do we know water doesnt come from one place and gold another?
@supersbatspiderman also shit like the big bang has never happened in our existence. weve never witnessed the energy of the earth and sun compressed to a size of an atom, we've witnessed atom bombs, but they dont make shit, they just destroy things.so really the very premise that there was a big bang is a little bit faulty. I mean right now we can discredit creationism because of scientific findings imagine what the big bang theory will dissolve to with 300 more years of science and exploration
You don't know astrophysics dude. We can see out over 12 billion light years worth of galaxies and galaxy clusters. Yes there are many unanswered questions and probably always will be, but we can conclusively say that our universe originated from a very small point, and that it is around 13.5 billion years old. Beyond that it's mostly conjecture.
@Lathox To assume we knw the origin and age of the universe is crazy. What kind of tests do we have to tell how old the unverse is? theres no carbondating test for the universe. we havent met the end of the universe, so to say that there is an end to the universe is an assumption, to say there was a beginning to the universe is an assumption. the universe is completely different than anything else we evaluate, who says that it even needs to have a birth?
We don't use carbon. Carbon has two short of a half life roughly one to two thousand years but rhenium has a half life of 40 billion years that can tell us much more. And this is just one method that been used. We know that all of the matter, energy, and space had to come from somewhere but we do know that our version of this known universe originated from the big bang.
You are using the logical fallacy of argument from agnosticism. I have already told you what evidence we have and you continue to reject it as insufficient. Theists would have provided you with no physical evidence whatsoever. You do not know the difference between what we can see and prove and what is specualtion. Do you have an alternative explanation or any evidence to the contrary?
@Lathox i dont think im using any fallacies. the evidence you have is insificient. And you can believe what ever you want, obviously, but dont try and play off a scientific fairytale as fact
@supersbatspiderman Speak for yourself. The OVERWHELMING majority (98-99%) of scientists accept the Big Bang did happen. I guess... they don't know shit, either, right?
@TheKainMan I mean you can believe any fairytale you wanna believe in and justify it anyway you want, but i am a part of the science community and dont believe in that shit.
@supersbatspiderman What are your credentials, then? What qualifies you as an official member of the science community? Belief is a personal opinion that means shit. There is no belief in science, only acceptance or denial. So deny all you want, evidence shows the Big Bang DID happen, almost 14 billion years ago and it didn't need a reason to happen, it just happened.
Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as "before the Big Bang". Any member of the science community knows about t=0.
@TheKainMan I have a bachelors in modern physics, not that i need to explain any scientific qualifications when we're speaking logic.... what else is the big bang besides a belief? No one saw it.You believe that all of the matter in the universe fit into a tenis ball?sure believe it, get whatever fancies you want out of it, but in the end of the day youre just lying to yourself, trying to comprehend everything that ever existed, when the truth is, there are a world of mysteries to ponder.
@supersbatspiderman Congratulations, you've exposed yourself, you fucking liar!
Any freshman physics student knows matter and energy are interchangeable and energy is INFINITELY compressible. Now if we only had a formula to justify that... oh wait, how about E = m*c^2? Who the fuck came up with that one more than 50 years ago, huh, Mr. Modern-Physics-Bachelor's-Degree?
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Thanks, now everyone can see you're just another dumb creationist trying to pass off as someone intelligent. So unoriginal!
@TheKainMan Now i never said The big bang is impossible, that would be wrong, but to say that it happened is wrong. You prove to me how the universe began, ill recommend you for whatever the fuck kind of award you want. but until that day comes, everyone who claims to know something about the beginning, is completely full of shit including scientists and creationists... you tell me you know that shit, and ill tell you youre selling something. so fuck that.
@supersbatspiderman I want an award for exposing you. Also, nice how you changed the subject. Science doesn't claim to know everything, it explains how things work. Like I said, you can accept it or deny it.
Now you claim neither science nor creationism (lol) knows how it happened. Then what the fuck are we supposed to believe? Whatever the fuck we want? Fine, I believe a pink unicorn took a rainbow piss in the snow one day and everything was created. Do I have any evidence to back that up? No!
@supersbatspiderman You're actually worse than a creationist, you're a denialist. You make absurd requests and then say that because no one can satisfy your curiosity, they are automatically dumb fucks not even worth of the soil on your shoes.
Well, good, sir, go fuck yourself. Unless you come up with a better explanation, don't throw shit like a retard at over a hundred years of observations and deductions and claim it's all bullshit because nobody was there to see.
@TheKainMan That pink unicorn idea was the first you said that made anysense, as for me i have my tree legged big hearted aliens to keep me company. We think of ideas all day about how shit started and theyre all just as noteworthy as any of that other bullshit that you find in a book. Sometimes the truth is a mystery and should be advertised as such for creative minds to ponder
Then you tried to provide counter arguments, you failed.
Now you try to peacefully reconcile, triple FAIL!
The truth doesn't work both ways, just like science, and the scientific method is true and valid because it works. Your subjective interpretation without evidence of what is true and valid only serves to show what an idiot you are.
The next time you feel like talking shit, don't! You have nothing to back it up with.
@TheKainMan Look kid, i dont have my degree but i am a junior studying modern physics right now. you connected einstein's law of energy that basically says everything is energy to a theory that says all matter can be condensed. Dispite what you think, they are different. What Einstien said holds water. This other Theory of compression is bull shit as far as im concerned. The most dense matter we know to man weighs about 100 pounds and can fit into the size of your hand. dense right?
@supersbatspiderman Now cut that size into 1:1 billionth and put the wieght of our earth into that. That shit exists right? Of course it fuckin doesnt, ive never seen it and neither has anyone. This theory that says that all matter can be indefinitly compressed isnt really prooved anywhere in the world, or our own history
@supersbatspiderman Now say that this shit actually works, and all the matter in the entire universe can fit into a tennis ball. shit can happen, doesnt mean that shit does happen. I could meet a beautiful sexy asian girl tomorrow and fuck her every single day until the day that i die. This shit can happen, but is it going to happen? I mean i hope so, but no it probably wont.
@supersbatspiderman I know history man, and the last ppl who said they could give you the answers to everything, killed and surpressed a bunch of ppl. Now this science approach is a little bit cooler. Saying to search for the truth, so if you really are science minded, you might be able to see the truth that no one has a clue. most ppl dont know the true history of Earth let alone the history of the universe
@supersbatspiderman Wow! Horrible twist of my words, just pathetic! I never said matter is infinitely compressible. I said Einstein's theory E=mc^2 shows matter can be converted into energy and vice-versa. You need proof of that? Nuclear reactors and the Sun's core.
Energy, on the other hand, CAN be compressed into a point smaller than an atom.
Also, your analogies don't make any sense. The BB didn't need a reason to happen. It just did.
@supersbatspiderman Unless you come up with a better theory of how our Universe works, shut the fuck up and stop bashing what people hundreds of times smarter than you accept as actual fact until proven otherwise.
If we were to go by your modus cogitandi, we'd still be hurling our own shit at predators to defend ourselves.
I'm actually curious why you even go to school. The books you read are full of crap, by your standards, because they say the same things I'm typing here.
@TheKainMan II can tell youre not a scientist. To be a good Scientist means to not be afraid to question accepted truths. which is exactly what i am doing with this big bang bulllshit. i see it as a weak attempt to explain something that people fear. Its not my business to tell people how the universe started, cuz once you start that story, its all just a bunch of fairytales. have your last words, but not a second before you suck my logical nutsack, im out.
Righto! The only logical model for reality is an infinite universe with an inherent quantum. We don't know if there is an end to the quantum, but quanta have been observed; molecules, atoms, particles. True creation is true "something from nothing". Magic.
Firstly, "nothingness" is a mistranslation. Secondly, your limited sensory apparatus has misled you into thinking that "time" is as you perceive it. Thirdly, your impassioned speech is devoid of logic, it is rhetorical and driven by paradigmatic thinking, not critical thinking. You couldn't construct an argument that follows logical form, much less an argument that is valid. Read Dr. Keith Yandell's, "The Epistemology of Religious Experience" and have a nice tall glass of, shut the fuck up!
funny "not known" for why or how but then when you offer a why & a how as in a GOD theory they call you names. no one else has come up with a why or how this universe came to be except creationists. so like i believe its true so i say so. the only rebuttal they have is"you a stupid face"all i know is they pose a question,then i give an answer,then i get insulted. that sounds like an ego trip or at least a basic bias towards people of a faith. yikes
No idiot i'm a fucking sexist your just a fucking troll looking for pissed people off with you 'i like to type in big caps for attention' your wasn't looking rational exchange quit trying to be Mr nice guy just because i pawed you in argument lol. If you just wanted a "rational exchange of ideas" you should of acted like but you didn't so do us all a favor, shut the fuck up already nobody wants to hear you bitch in Big Caps about God and Jesus and ramdon shit. Try Shockofgod
@Spider58x Wow so you concede you started this farce?Paw Me, wait are you a cat?
You also concede i did not call you a satanist? That you admitted to it freely? And how dare you speak for everyone. I was perfectly willing to leave this issue in the past,but your constant harassment leaves little room for that.And who is trying to get attention? Do i try to put you down? Do i call you names?
Once again i'll try to leave this in the past.By allmeans keep letting ppl know how u spend your time
@Spider58x No i gave an opinion. You mistook the meaning of that opinion and started profanely insulting me.You called yourself a satanist,not me(as in i typed you told me you were).You are the one calling me a what was it? " a little bitch" as if calling me a derogatory term for a women isnt sexist? Oh yeah and a "trolling fag" as if using someone's sexual orientation as a derogatory term isnt bigoted? and of course "stupid" i'm the one who keeps getting these rants in the inbox "constantly".
For the 100th a last fucking time, i never said i was satanist! It called sarcasm. Get a dictionary and look the word up because you have no clue what the fuck it means. Why would i call my self a satanist if i don't believe a damn word of the bible or that Satan even exist? There is no other way to put it. your fucking stupid.
@Spider58x 1st you call it a joke,then sarcasm..Well I am laughing at how much time you waste of your own life to try and bring me down!But how can anyone be fucking stupid? Is there a smart way to fuck?And yet you admit i never called you a satanist you typed it first,then i typed about what you typed.Really not a word,how about "the" or "air"?Now that's sarcasm.And if you really understood thermodynamics you'd know there is a GOD.But yo wut ev.That asidewhatabout the federal reserveconspiracy?
sarcasm fits under the joke category.Do you own a dictionary?. And no, i don't need to "bring you down" lol I think i heard that in a J-lo song or something lol.
As for the federal reserve conspiracy, Alex Jones(even if he is right) need to be put in a mental institution. Nutcase for sure. Kinda like people who believe the bible =0 did i just say that?
@Spider58x Holy schnicke's!!!!!! Did we just agree on something?!?!? Me i think Alex jones is a jesuit puppet.The jesuits(who own the illuminati) are controlled by satanists.If you don't believe in him or GOD that's fine.But these tyrants do they literally worship & perform satanistic human sacrifice's! I get testy cuz ive delt with real satanist's b4.......It was not fun.....
ALSO YOUR THE ONE WHO STARTED INSULTING ME,I JUST PROVIDED AN OPINION AND IDEA,WHICH ACCORDING TO YOU IF ITS DIFF THAN YOUR IS A "CAPITOL" OFFENSE(PUN).YES AN AGENDA: TO GIVE AN OPINION,NOT FORCE IT ON SOMEONE THAN INSULT THEM IF THEY DISAGREE,UNLIKE YOU.THATS NOT AN ATTACK JUST OBSERVATION
Your the one who started this coversation int the FIRST PLACE!!!Go back and read you first comment to me and you'll know why i did. First, you called me a satanist when you said "The book of sataism is the worst book ever written"(your words not mine) implying that i worship Satan. You know the one you took down.
Second, you have been trolling me and other people for about a day now. Just leave and take your stupid preaching somewher else you trolling fag
@Spider58x owe just owe if i wanted to call you a satanist i would have said "your a satanist" i was merely pointing out my opinion about me thinking the bible is a better book than the one alester crowely wrote i didnt mean for you to take offense also your the one who insulted me first by calling me stupid but again these are just lines on a page so unless you disagree with what you just quoted me saying i wont "bother" you with any more of my opinion good day to you sir Health and Truth toall
Just providing my opinion,brought about by selective reasoning.As all scientists selectively reason theirs.All knowledge is based on only what is known not what is unknown.So how can any of us so we know something,hell we could all be pods in the matrix or fleas on GODs back,or a giant bean burrito.Now thats sarcasm.
OH YEAH AND ONE MORE THING THEY PREACH ABOUT THERMODYNAMICS PROVING THAT ENERGY CANT BE CREATED OR DESTROYED LIKE ITS THEIR BIBLE BUT RIDDLE ME THIS SATANISTS. WHY DID THE ENERGY CHANGE TO CREATE THIS WHOLE UNIVERSE? WHY DID IT ( THE APPARENT GODLESS ENERGY) MORPH INTO US? WE WHO CAN CREATE AND DESTROY OBJECTS?SO THIS ENERGY WAS JUST BOUNCING AROUND &JUST BANG INSTA HUMANS FROM NOTHING BUT PURE ENERGY WITH NO THOUGHT OR FEELING HO HO SANTAS HERE AND HES GOT THERMO UNDERQWEAR LOL WHY WHY WHY
YES PEOPLE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SOMEONE ELSE TOLD THEM OUT OF A BOOK,WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT CHRISTIANS DO!!!!!! HA HA HA
WELL THERMODYNAMICS DO DA DO,HA HA HA THEY DO THE SAME THING AS CHRISTIANS I THINK THATS JUST HILARIOUS OH ME OH MY I HAVENT LAUGHED THAT HARD IN A LONG TIME ...................
THERMODYNAMICS........ HO-N-HA HA OH MY SIDES THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
A vacuum is not nothing, but something because it has space. Also saying that the energy that makes up the universe has always existed while not a false statement is certainly misleading. It has been here since the beginning of time, so technically that is "always" but saying it always existed kind of implies the universe has always been here (ie didn't have a beginning) which is demonstrably not true.
@Hamulus8 When I say "Complete nothingness" I am not referring to a vacuum. I am actually referring to absolute, complete nothingness. I agree this universe had a "beginning", but the energy that caused that beginning has always existed in the multiverse for as long as their has been time. Everythingness is the default state of things instead of nothingness, therefore creation is not possible.
@CultOfDusty You say "vacuum" in your clip in the same breath as this "nothingness" you refer to. Also, we cannot know anything about this universe (or the energy therein) prior to the big bang. There is no prior as far as we can tell. M-theory posits a multiverse, but still (as yet) says nothing about the origins of this universe or where the energy for it came from. Unless you are moving this cult along to accepting that you have "special knowledge" this video is just plain wrong.
@Hamulus8 CHECK ME AND SPIDER58X COMMENTS HE ADMITS HE IS A SATANIST THATS WHAT THIS WHOLE PAGE IS FOR TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE FEEL STUPID AND TO PROFANELY INSULT OTHERS ALL THE TIME WHILE TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE ELSE THERE IS NO GOD, I ACTUALLY GOT HIM TO ADMIT IT HA HA AHA HAH HO HO OH MY THE FOOL
BTW the reason i said satanist in the first place is because in a earlier comment to me you said and i quote "The Book of Satanism is the worst book ever written" but you removed the comment like the little pussy bitch you are. When is said i was a satanist is was a sarcastic response to that since that's you called me a satanist in the first place. But keep making an ass out of your self. I haven't had this much fun on youtube in a long time.
@Spider58x I removed the comment because i fked up the reasoning.so it wasnt complete or very intelligent.
Second no one in their right mind jokes about being a satanist.Every joke has a sliver of truth.Also i never called you a satanist i talked about your insults to christian beliefs you asked for evidence,as far as evidence goes in the court of law the bible would be considered documentation as it came about roughly the same time as this supposed jesus.I didnt:saywithoutdoubtthats preference
"i fked up the reasoning . so it wasnt complete or very intelligent"
Nothing you ever said on here was complete or intelligent. The only thing you want here is attention with you big caps typing. Which reminds me of the all the chicks that i went to high school and college with, just attention whores with a IQ below room temperature You're no different from them as far as I'm concerned.
@iwanttocrashmybike Dude, there is no God. I disagree with Dusty about what can be known about the big bang, but I am intelligent enough to realise that God is fictional. I gave up imaginary friends many years ago, and perhaps you should to. Incidently, typing with the caps lock on does not make you seem more intelligent.
@Hamulus8 Contradiction: you state what happened b4 the big bang can't be known.But you discount the possibility of GOD.A being from another dimension,that could have brought something into this dimensions nothingness.Thats my theory have fun disproving it.
@iwanttocrashmybike MORON ALERT! Can't be known DOES NOT MEAN GOD DID IT. I discount the idea that God did it on the same grounds that I discount that magic space pixies did it. It adds nothing to our understanding of what happened, and it can't be tested. Saying "I don't know" is simply an honest answer based on the evidence.
@Hamulus8 My referral to the vacuum was an explanation of peoples incorrect view of nothingness. The problem is when you do short videos you can not explain every little detail or you lose people.
It seems logical to me that the default state of things can not be complete nothingness because nothing can come from nothing. Therefore this can not be the default state of things. It takes no special knowledge to believe 0 + 0 = 0.
@CultOfDusty It may seem logical to you, but it is simply not knowable. The universe began with a singularity which means all the laws of physics were compromised. There is also the question of whether an equal amount of anti-matter/matter was created, thus maintaining equilibrium, but ultimately we cannot know and your assertion is not supported by science. Scrap this vid and replace it with one that is factually accurate. Love your work, but you are in error here.
@Hamulus8 I appreciate your concerns, and while this is not my favorite vid, I still do not see how it errors with science. How can the default state of things be complete nothingness? If it were ever complete nothingness, wouldn't it still be complete nothingness? Therefore by default doesn't that mean that the default state of things must have been somethingness?
@CultOfDusty Science is about what we can observe. True, there are areas which are very conceptual (M-theory/string theory would be included here) but they still make predictions which are testable. We exist within this universe where time began 13.7 billion years ago and all matter/energy came into being. We cannot know what came before. To say you know is no different from a theist saying "God done it". You are making it up so you are no better than a creationist.
@Hamulus8 I understand what your saying here, but this is sorta a philosophical issue. You can't really "know" anything for 100% (beyond your on existence perhaps). I'm not saying this is something I know to be a fact, but rather this is what I have reasoned to be more probable than not based on the information I currently have. I'm more than willing to change my beliefs if I attain better information then the information I already posses.
@CultOfDusty Science says we don't know. We can't know. You say "this is what I reasoned". You have done nothing but speculate, same as creationists do. So does this mean they can "logic slap" you now? We don't know what came before. Just state that instead of speculate. There is no rule that says we have to know. If you think you do know, go to uni, get a degree in cosmology then submit your "reason" for peer review. Otherwise you don't know, you are guessing same as they are.
@Hamulus8 I enjoy watching creationists/theists get slapped! Logic slapped is as fun as any other. But slap them with the good stuff. Slapping them with speculation can't possibly hurt as much as slapping them with established scientific fact.
You have some great vids here, but this one is weak and cheapens the others. I just don't want to let them off the hook. Check out the youtube vid "A Universe From Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss and keep slapping!
@Hamulus8 I find it odd that you say "nothing hurts as much as slapping them with scientific fact"as all science is based on existence,this existence.Also why "hurt" thats negative. And still have not answered a why this singularity that a singularity that you admit compromised the known laws of physics happened in the first place.An explosion of any kind does not create a sophisticated simetrical being such as us.If it did create anything it would be franken-ish.
@iwanttocrashmybike MORON ALERT! The big bang theory is seperate from abiogenesis which is seperate from the theory of evolution. Go and get a basis high school education (pref not from the US) and come back when you understand what you are talking about.
@Hamulus8 Oh yes of course calling me a moron and not disproving my theory really convinced me you know more than me. and and still you talked about not knowing what happend b4 which isnt what i said isaid a"why" which are two diff things
1HOW
2WHY
BOTH OF WHICH ARE B4 THE EVENT BUT LET me guess your response will be "your a big dummy,im a scientist" if any of you guys could of actually talked in stead of just throwing insults i might of had respect for yall but wutev bye!
@iwanttocrashmybike I apologize for calling you a moron. It's just so frustrating hearing the same regurgitated crap from creationists. And no, I am not a scientist - as far as science goes I only have a high-school education. The rest I have taught myself which is exactly what I would encourage you to do. You have internet access so there is no excuse for your ignorance. Find out what you are arguing against BEFORE you argue against it.
@Hamulus8 allimsaying is thattheenergy in this dimen(thermodynamics)was here then wastransformed to the universe (big bang/creation/evolution) andconstructed (all string theorys) orcreated likea artist makes a song out of sound.i thinkmost theorys are correct ) but if you combine most withthat artist idea its the only one that gives a why.ill do more research and fine tune it(like an instrument lol)who else but a GOD could manipulate the laws of all these theorys"my ways are not your ways" later
@iwanttocrashmybike It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about re the laws of physics. It's like you are inserting random words to try to make yourself sound knowledgeable. Just makes you sound more stupid.
"Who else?" Stupid question that has no answer. It's like "Who shit the moon out of their arse?" You can answer God to your who question, but just as easily answer Allah, Zeus or magical space pixies. Adds nothing to our understanding, explains nothing predicts nothing.
@Hamulus8 uh holy crap, you miss the point. all the laws of physics are based on existence. the q is b4 existence so obviously your smart sounding "laws of physic" dont applly to an existence that doesnt exist yet. "spiritual existence" that can change energy thus creating existence. & yes scientificaly you cant prove/disprove it. but thats the whole point. and yes it does explain something,and predict something. and thats not from some blind sheep point of viewitsjusttheonlyanswer that fits
@iwanttocrashmybike And BTW I can't "disprove" your HYPOTHESIS. Nobody can, which is why it is a stupid hypothesis (scientifically speaking). If it is not disprovable or testable then it is useless. Saying "God done it" makes no predictions and adds nothing to our understanding. So why bother with it? Our model of the universe works just as well without it, or with an equally ludicrous notion (magical space pixies done it/the flying spaghetti monster done it).
@Hamulus8 By that criteria it doesn't seem like you would be able to make any definitive statement, because without possessing 100% of the information, which no one could do, everything is speculation.
But i do understand what your saying. This video was meant as more of a thought experiment rather than a scientific proposition, and is meant to show Christians how their concept of an all powerful God who has always existed is inconsistent with creation.
@Hamulus8 After thinking about it, perhaps your point is that logic, or what we perceive as logic, is only logical in this particular "dimension", and therefore on a different plane of existence it might be logical for something to come from nothingness?
@CultOfDusty We can't possibly see "past" the beginning of our universe. It is illogical to say that we can. To say that something existed before the beginning of time is to say that this was not the beginning of time.
What is the difference between saying "logic tells us there must be a first cause, therefore it's God" and "logic tells us that the energy for this universe had to come from somewhere, therefore it always existed in another universe"? Neither statement is testable or predictive.
Many things in the bible are very harsh, somewhat hard to believe, some might say even foolish. But remember God doesnt look at mans outward appearence, God looks at our inward heart. If God didnt excercise judgement how would we know right or wrong; for by the law (of Moses) is the knowledge of sin.
Job suffered many hardships was inflected with sores head to toe, lost his children, flocks and houses, but God blessed him in his latter life coshe didnt sin
@madjimms MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT I KNOW OF MONKS THAT WORKED WITH NAZIS FOR THEIR OWN BELIEFS ABOUT ALIENS AND ANTI GRAVITY MACHINES HA HA THERE GOES YOUR THEORY AND WAY TO ADD PERVERSION TO ADD STRENGTH TO YOUR WEAK HATEFUL OPINION HA HA COOLSPIRITUAL STUFF &KARMA HUH? AND WHAT DO YOU THINK PUTTING OTHER PEOPLE DOWN IS? ITS NOT NICE! SO IT'S NOT GOOD KARMA.
@madjimms thats right an agenda " to voice my opinion without fear of reprisals" if my style of like the caps better makes you feel like someone's yelling at you my bad but they are just lines on a page.
@madjimms REALLY? i give my opinion, also what i believe to be true but no one has given me an answer as to WHY the energy transformed.also the laws of thermodynamics do make perfect sense that energy cannot be created or destroyed in this universe.this system. this created universe. thiscreated system. there my opinion based on what ive seen here and on that shockGOD video that spider guy told me about,Also the comments dusty,spider,& you post contain what YOU believe to be true yes or no?
EVERYTHING CANNOT, I REPEAT CANNOT HAVE ALWAYS HAVE EXISTED. IT HAD TO HAVE A BEGINNING, EG: TIME MATTER AND SPACE. WHY YOU MAY ASK, LET ME TELL YOU. IF TIME ALWAYS EXISTED WE NEVER WOULD HAVE REACHED THIS MOMENT IN TIME THERE WOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A NOW. THE UNIVERSE AND MATTER AND SPACE ARE NOT INFINITE(YOU CANNOT HAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF FINITE THINGS), WHY - OK TIMES TWO BY TWO BY TWO AND ADD DIVIDE SUBTRACT OR MULTIPLY IT UNTILL YOU REACH INFINITY, OOOH YOU CANT..
@Spider58x - well energy can be created if you have a creator. And everything we see can come from the things which are unseen, from God, which isnt fake if you believe the bible.
No, something that can't be created(energy) therefore can NOT have a creator behind it. Your just ignoring scientific facts which eliminates all creditability you have .
And no, i don't believe the bible for many reasons, don't get me started =P
You know nothing about Thermodynamics don't you??? Energy can't be created or destroyed it just changes forms it CAN"T BE NET ZERO proven by the uncertainty principle(look it up)
BTW I'm still laughing at the first comment. Chris Rock has nothing you. Your an comedic genius.
I'M GOING TO POST YOUR FIRST COMMENT TO ME ON ALL OF MY ATHEIST FRIENDS PAGE SO THEY CAN GET IN ON THE FUN TOO.!!!!
that was a joke you idiot. I'm not a satanist. That was obvious sarcasm dumb ass. You stupidity is off the charts. But i was 12 years old once so i understand your pain.
"Again with the insults, always resorting to such childish ways of communication"
Like when you called me a satanist that wasn't a childish way of communication. Keep contradicting your self you troll. Nobody here takes your stupidity seriously
@Spider58x DUDE WONT EVEN ADMIT WHAT HE TYPED YOU SAID JOKE OR NO JOKE YOU ARE
"ATHEIST/SATANIST" I TYPED THAT YOU ADMITED IT. I DIDNT CALL YOU A SATANIST I TYPED ABOUT YOU ADMITING IT YO & I USE CAPS CUZ I LIKE THE STLE AND ITS EASIER TO READ. .AND YET STILL NO RATIONAL THOUGHT JUST EMOTIONAL ATTACKS
YOU SHOULD JUST STAND IN FRONT OF THE MIRROR IF ALL YOU WANT IS SOMEONE TO BELITTLE.
my theory is that our universe as it is now all sprung out of a black hole. like a quazar. black holes have huge ammount of gravity, so black holes attract other black holes. and after a huge amount of time all the black holes attracted achother into one huge black hole that in the end exploaded ( look up quazars) and created the universe we're in now.
the only part that ppl find hard to get is that everything have allways existed. wich is ofcourse hard to comprehend.
theism is believing in eternity as if you believe in eternity something that can not be grasped by the human mind then you are believing in god something on the same level as eternity that can not be grasped by the human mind, it all comes down to facts and science and theism get along just fine but science religion dont
@lasciencefan Theism is the assertion that a entity of some sort created everything (this can be sub divided in to the many religions that reflect this.) The human mind at this stage cannot comprehend everythink i agree, however what you have to remenber is that this theism has a very human emotion. For centuries many people have been killed in the name of religion for not believeing in the human interuptation of this entity. Science priciples are based on what we can see, hear, and test.
@loudman12 science can not test the supernatural as it is not there to test in a conventional way. One day maybe we will be able to. But theism asserts that this supernatural entity is real and he has certain standards, so basically claiming they know the "Unknowable"
@loudman12 if the God Thing is Unknowable, then christians and believers have lied to them selfs thinking they know, if a So called God as u but it, Created everything, then God is a Atheist Scientist, what Created a Lie.
Science Moves Forwards, Beliefs Stay Behind, u believers ever want to clhallenge any one, the challenge the Ultimate Atheist. WITH NO BELIEFS,
@realnameunknown2011 hey im not a believer i am a atheist :) at the end of the day, my position is that i can not stand here and say 100% that there could be no god. My assertion is that the religious people have not yet proved that one exsists, they make the claim, they need to prove it. science will set us free completley one day, untill then its a constant battle with people who do not want to progress.
@loudman12 but theism is not religion religion is just foolish men who think they are smarter then everyone else, most scientists are theists and there is very good reasons to believe in a higher power that ordered life ands allowed it to happen science will never explain where the diversity of life came from science is very limited in what it can tell us
@lasciencefan Theism is the term dedicated to the explanation of religion and the clerks, etc that study the bible and the teachings, thus i consider it to be a religion through its assocation."Most sciencetists are theists2 No they are not 95% of sciencetists reject the idea of god, I suggest you look this up before you type it on here. "Science will never explain the diverstiy of life" UH they have and will continue to learn more as time progresse's. Our genetic code has unlocked our past.
@loudman12 and our close association will other forms of life. Let me ask you for you to make that comment do you have a good understanding of the science for that particular field? I would say no as if you had, those comments you would not have typed in the first place. I did study into evolutionary biology and genetic structures amd once I learned this It became easier I suggest do some research learn the basics then you have a better understanding.
that was a great point about science teachesthat everything always existed as it can not concieve how anything could have a beginning it agrees with theism so perfectly thatyswhy athiests should stop using science against theism and creationists organised religious people should stop trying to use science against science
@lasciencefan Well not really theism is the assertion that God (depending on what religion you follow) poofed everything out of nothing!!!. Know their is hardly any information or evidence to prove this, so how can science agree with theists?//
@TheStrawbeery well science has proven that the apparant cure for leprosy is not killing two birds and sprinkling of the blood on the victim. science has proven that the earth circles the sun, not the other way around. Science has proven that the world is not flat, and the world is older then 4000 years. Science has proven that diseases are bacterial infections, not demons pocessing people, need i go on?
:Scumbag atheist:... Wants his beliefs respected, but has no respectful way of arguing his point
rtwftw1 1 day ago
watch lawrence kraus video on a universe from nothing, the full vid is on youtube
wearestarstuffsagan 2 days ago
I don't think people can even conceive the concept of "nothingness" what does that even mean anyway? What does "nothingness" look like?
AstriaICOW 3 weeks ago
Umm, Im an Atheist and the best explanation I read in a Hitchens Book " The portbale Ahteist " was... Anitmatter -1 and Matter +1 added together equals nothing. The nothingess was unstable and Kaboom.
MrMick73 1 month ago
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A God is meant to be Feared. Fear is a Dangerous Word. It could mean Respect but is could also mean being Afraid. Afraid as in if you don't do this, Your going to Hell. All Reason, Hope, & Freedom Gone in Holy Fire Forever. The Bible also says we are Born with Sin. What?? So if we Sin, in any way, we're going to Hell. But we can't help it, it's our Nature. So why then Punish 80% of People that you Created, Knew would Sin, & Knew would Never be Fixed or Learn. Bullshit!
ssohood2011 1 month ago
*different*
DarkBeauty1989 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
This guy is fucking retarded.
God is energy, it's immaterial.. it has always existed, it is eternal. God transferred energy from itself to create the physical reality we're allowed to experience.
The universe had a beginning, modern science shows us this. So where the hell did this energy come from? Where did all the energy come from to create all physical matter? God, because god is the infinite eternal source of energy.
You're fuckin stupid dude lol
the7mad9cap7laughs 1 month ago
@the7mad9cap7laughs that idea backs up hinduism. god is in everyone and everyone is different forms fo god . Energy could have always existed if god has always existed. Energy could be "god" but that would back up hinduism and buddhism which says we are all one interconnected. i think enegry could be what a soul is and "god", But not the idea of god in the bible . energy cant be created or destroyed only changed into a differnt form ..sounds like rebirth.
DarkBeauty1989 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@DarkBeauty1989 But there was at a point in our physical universe when none of this energy existed. It just popped into existence from an external source. That source would logically be the creator of the universe. Now whether you want to say this energy has a 'personality' or not is up to debate, but still, the very science of the big bang shows the universe was indeed created. This man has to result to anger and intimidation to convince his viewers, uses no logic whatsoever..
the7mad9cap7laughs 1 month ago
@the7mad9cap7laughs energy was needed for the bigbang. so energy could have always existed. it cant be created or destroyed just like the idea of god and a soul. If god didnt need a cause neither would energy. Buddhism talks about the bigbang and evolution. so what I am saying is maybe energy is "god" or just our souls. we all have energy in us and when we die our energy leaves our body and never is destroyed. we are all ONE ...we are all energy.
DarkBeauty1989 1 month ago
@the7mad9cap7laughs Both atheist and theist have to agree that something either popped into existence are always existed.
DarkBeauty1989 1 month ago
lol
DarkBeauty1989 1 month ago
Mormons are clever about this one. They say matter and energy have always existed, and that god merely "organized" it into what we see today. Of course that doesn't explain who or what organized their god, but that's when you're told to shut up and have faith :)
MorrisonEnterprise 1 month ago
Completely agree.. but..... where is your cap?
sushanalone 1 month ago
dude your really animated.
WeedReviewMovies 2 months ago in playlist More videos from CultOfDusty
is a pity that all americans sound do retarded. i might actually be able to listen to him then.
morrisrussellwillis 2 months ago
e=mc2 explains all this
crownvvc4 2 months ago
.... i like a lot of your videos, but who truly knows how this matter that has always existed exists. and why, how, we know its here, and thats about it, energy and matter can never be destroyed or created, but then how the fuck is it here? this is where logical faith comes in to play CTM
supersbatspiderman 2 months ago
We don't know what caused the big bang or how it happened. But we do know that it happened. But all scientists know that the energy matter and space had to come from somewhere. Most creationists seem to forget this
Lathox 3 months ago
@Lathox motha fucka, we dont know the big bang happened, we dont know shit besides the fact that shit exists, and theres a whole bunch of shit around us.
supersbatspiderman 2 months ago
@supersbatspiderman
We have sufficient evidence to conclude that the universe originated from the big bang. The only evidence religion has ever provided was its own scripture. You might not know anything, superstitiousbatshitman. But that doesn't mean you can discredit those of us that do.
Lathox 2 months ago
@Lathox Alright , i hope you know what youre telling me. Youre are just falling into the cult of "science", of course they dont fucking know what happened 500 trillion years ago. Not a single damn person does. and if they do claim they know, theyre selling you something! i dont care what kind of evidence they have, unless its a fuckin hd video recording of that shit going down its not enough for me to believe, so suck my logical cock after you lather it up mr. lathcox
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman
First of all, this universe isn't even 500 trillion years old. Modern day astrophysics has given us a pretty accurate picture of our universe. Light travels at the same speed everywhere in the universe. We can see hypernovae and quasars up to about 13 billion light years. That by itself is pretty convincing window into the past. Nor is the only thing we have. Such evidence is far better than fairytales written 2000 years ago.
Lathox 1 month ago
@Lathox idk man, that just tells me we can see really far into the universe, but the universe goes on and on, to a point where its really hard to even comprehend. I just dont understand where ppl get the balls to tell the public something so bizarre and abstract in order to answer the most amazing mystery. Why dont we just let go. leave it at that, mysteries are cool right? I mean its cool to try and figure things like this out, but its literally impossible to actually know.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman
Why leave things as a mystery when you can actually find out the real answer? That curiosity is what drives science. And science is what brought us from horse and buggy to auto mobile. It might be impossible to know somethings but I won't take some ancient text's answer and call it good. I'm going to wait for a real answer. And the big bang theory is a sound explanation supported by evidence.
Lathox 1 month ago
@Lathox maybe your right and its not pointless to search for the answer, but im not satisfied with the Big Bang thheory because if we completly understood how it happened, we could create universes ....this is a problem with science, we take theories as fact and stop experimenting. so question, research, hypothisize, and experiment, on whatever you want, including the beginning of all things we know.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman
We didn't stop experimenting. They completed a massive particle accelerator in Europe a few years ago to help answer more questions proposed by the Big Bang Theory.
Lathox 1 month ago
@Lathox and thats wonderful, so why stop coming up with other explanations of the beginning, if the first one helped out science so much
supersbatspiderman 4 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
You can come up with as many explanations as you want. But if they don't have evidence supporting them, then they are unscientific. Further, any supposed evidence of any divine involvement has been discredited by every test so far devised. The explanation of creationism has long since been buried in the academic arena. To top it all off: even if we could prove that a diety did it this doesn't validate any other religious claims (ie afterlife, commandments, etc).
Lathox 4 weeks ago
@Lathox then we agree, but the big bang doesnt have amazing evidence to support it, i kind of find it silly that so many ppl take it as a truth when its just a theory
supersbatspiderman 4 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman also the obsession over this question is radical too. ppl should figure out their own philosophies on how to live and realize that the beginning, though it started everything, shouldnt have too much of an effect on the now
supersbatspiderman 4 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
No. First of all a theory is more than just a guess. Theory means that is supported by a strong body of evidence. Here are a few examples. Massive gulfs between clusters of galaxies, a unilateral background radiation that is present at every point in known space, the fact that the celestial bodies are in fact moving further apart. This theory has lead us to many more discoveries as a result, and it is consistent with all known evidence.
Lathox 3 weeks ago
@Lathox i understand what a theory is, and they have been proven wrong on more than occasion. discoveries are made because we are always finding out how the physical world works. all science is a description of the physical world. so yea some evidence backs it up, there obviously was a reason why this theory was made, but the obsession that everyone says its true...its crazy. Its a fantasy man. theres an inconceivable amount of possibilities about how when and where all this went down.
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
Big Bang theory is about as likely to be proven wrong as the earth being proven to be non-spherical. And no there is no evidence for there being a "reason" for it. Reason would imply that someone or something made it for something. Planets orbit stars because of the laws of gravity not because they think it's cool. If you happen to have a better explanation for why the universe is expanding, has a background radiation, etc, I would like to hear it.
Lathox 3 weeks ago
@Lathox we dont know that the whole universe is expanding, thats just another theory someone had because galaxies in our very small sector of the universe are moving apart. to actually know the universe is expanding we would have to lterally see the end of the universe, map the whole universe and be able to actually measure it. how do we know its not just infinite. how do we know that there werent thousands of big bangs, how do we know water doesnt come from one place and gold another?
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman also shit like the big bang has never happened in our existence. weve never witnessed the energy of the earth and sun compressed to a size of an atom, we've witnessed atom bombs, but they dont make shit, they just destroy things.so really the very premise that there was a big bang is a little bit faulty. I mean right now we can discredit creationism because of scientific findings imagine what the big bang theory will dissolve to with 300 more years of science and exploration
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
You don't know astrophysics dude. We can see out over 12 billion light years worth of galaxies and galaxy clusters. Yes there are many unanswered questions and probably always will be, but we can conclusively say that our universe originated from a very small point, and that it is around 13.5 billion years old. Beyond that it's mostly conjecture.
Lathox 3 weeks ago
@Lathox To assume we knw the origin and age of the universe is crazy. What kind of tests do we have to tell how old the unverse is? theres no carbondating test for the universe. we havent met the end of the universe, so to say that there is an end to the universe is an assumption, to say there was a beginning to the universe is an assumption. the universe is completely different than anything else we evaluate, who says that it even needs to have a birth?
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
We don't use carbon. Carbon has two short of a half life roughly one to two thousand years but rhenium has a half life of 40 billion years that can tell us much more. And this is just one method that been used. We know that all of the matter, energy, and space had to come from somewhere but we do know that our version of this known universe originated from the big bang.
Lathox 3 weeks ago
@Lathox no we dont. you believe that this happened.
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
You are using the logical fallacy of argument from agnosticism. I have already told you what evidence we have and you continue to reject it as insufficient. Theists would have provided you with no physical evidence whatsoever. You do not know the difference between what we can see and prove and what is specualtion. Do you have an alternative explanation or any evidence to the contrary?
Lathox 3 weeks ago
@Lathox i dont think im using any fallacies. the evidence you have is insificient. And you can believe what ever you want, obviously, but dont try and play off a scientific fairytale as fact
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman
Only if you agree not to play off a scientific fact as a fairy tale.
Lathox 3 weeks ago
@Lathox agreed.
supersbatspiderman 3 weeks ago
@supersbatspiderman Speak for yourself. The OVERWHELMING majority (98-99%) of scientists accept the Big Bang did happen. I guess... they don't know shit, either, right?
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@TheKainMan I mean you can believe any fairytale you wanna believe in and justify it anyway you want, but i am a part of the science community and dont believe in that shit.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman What are your credentials, then? What qualifies you as an official member of the science community? Belief is a personal opinion that means shit. There is no belief in science, only acceptance or denial. So deny all you want, evidence shows the Big Bang DID happen, almost 14 billion years ago and it didn't need a reason to happen, it just happened.
Oh, and by the way, there is no such thing as "before the Big Bang". Any member of the science community knows about t=0.
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@TheKainMan I have a bachelors in modern physics, not that i need to explain any scientific qualifications when we're speaking logic.... what else is the big bang besides a belief? No one saw it.You believe that all of the matter in the universe fit into a tenis ball?sure believe it, get whatever fancies you want out of it, but in the end of the day youre just lying to yourself, trying to comprehend everything that ever existed, when the truth is, there are a world of mysteries to ponder.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Congratulations, you've exposed yourself, you fucking liar!
Any freshman physics student knows matter and energy are interchangeable and energy is INFINITELY compressible. Now if we only had a formula to justify that... oh wait, how about E = m*c^2? Who the fuck came up with that one more than 50 years ago, huh, Mr. Modern-Physics-Bachelor's-Degree?
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Thanks, now everyone can see you're just another dumb creationist trying to pass off as someone intelligent. So unoriginal!
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@TheKainMan Now i never said The big bang is impossible, that would be wrong, but to say that it happened is wrong. You prove to me how the universe began, ill recommend you for whatever the fuck kind of award you want. but until that day comes, everyone who claims to know something about the beginning, is completely full of shit including scientists and creationists... you tell me you know that shit, and ill tell you youre selling something. so fuck that.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman I want an award for exposing you. Also, nice how you changed the subject. Science doesn't claim to know everything, it explains how things work. Like I said, you can accept it or deny it.
Now you claim neither science nor creationism (lol) knows how it happened. Then what the fuck are we supposed to believe? Whatever the fuck we want? Fine, I believe a pink unicorn took a rainbow piss in the snow one day and everything was created. Do I have any evidence to back that up? No!
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman You're actually worse than a creationist, you're a denialist. You make absurd requests and then say that because no one can satisfy your curiosity, they are automatically dumb fucks not even worth of the soil on your shoes.
Well, good, sir, go fuck yourself. Unless you come up with a better explanation, don't throw shit like a retard at over a hundred years of observations and deductions and claim it's all bullshit because nobody was there to see.
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@TheKainMan That pink unicorn idea was the first you said that made anysense, as for me i have my tree legged big hearted aliens to keep me company. We think of ideas all day about how shit started and theyre all just as noteworthy as any of that other bullshit that you find in a book. Sometimes the truth is a mystery and should be advertised as such for creative minds to ponder
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman You fail yet again.
First you lied, it didn't work.
Then you tried to provide counter arguments, you failed.
Now you try to peacefully reconcile, triple FAIL!
The truth doesn't work both ways, just like science, and the scientific method is true and valid because it works. Your subjective interpretation without evidence of what is true and valid only serves to show what an idiot you are.
The next time you feel like talking shit, don't! You have nothing to back it up with.
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Now, let me know when you're ready to hand me my award.
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@TheKainMan Look kid, i dont have my degree but i am a junior studying modern physics right now. you connected einstein's law of energy that basically says everything is energy to a theory that says all matter can be condensed. Dispite what you think, they are different. What Einstien said holds water. This other Theory of compression is bull shit as far as im concerned. The most dense matter we know to man weighs about 100 pounds and can fit into the size of your hand. dense right?
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Now cut that size into 1:1 billionth and put the wieght of our earth into that. That shit exists right? Of course it fuckin doesnt, ive never seen it and neither has anyone. This theory that says that all matter can be indefinitly compressed isnt really prooved anywhere in the world, or our own history
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Now say that this shit actually works, and all the matter in the entire universe can fit into a tennis ball. shit can happen, doesnt mean that shit does happen. I could meet a beautiful sexy asian girl tomorrow and fuck her every single day until the day that i die. This shit can happen, but is it going to happen? I mean i hope so, but no it probably wont.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman I know history man, and the last ppl who said they could give you the answers to everything, killed and surpressed a bunch of ppl. Now this science approach is a little bit cooler. Saying to search for the truth, so if you really are science minded, you might be able to see the truth that no one has a clue. most ppl dont know the true history of Earth let alone the history of the universe
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Wow! Horrible twist of my words, just pathetic! I never said matter is infinitely compressible. I said Einstein's theory E=mc^2 shows matter can be converted into energy and vice-versa. You need proof of that? Nuclear reactors and the Sun's core.
Energy, on the other hand, CAN be compressed into a point smaller than an atom.
Also, your analogies don't make any sense. The BB didn't need a reason to happen. It just did.
That's the accepted theory right now.
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Unless you come up with a better theory of how our Universe works, shut the fuck up and stop bashing what people hundreds of times smarter than you accept as actual fact until proven otherwise.
If we were to go by your modus cogitandi, we'd still be hurling our own shit at predators to defend ourselves.
I'm actually curious why you even go to school. The books you read are full of crap, by your standards, because they say the same things I'm typing here.
TheKainMan 1 month ago
@TheKainMan II can tell youre not a scientist. To be a good Scientist means to not be afraid to question accepted truths. which is exactly what i am doing with this big bang bulllshit. i see it as a weak attempt to explain something that people fear. Its not my business to tell people how the universe started, cuz once you start that story, its all just a bunch of fairytales. have your last words, but not a second before you suck my logical nutsack, im out.
supersbatspiderman 1 month ago
@supersbatspiderman Awww, giving up so early, hun? Here's the last nail in the coffin for your ass:
"I therefor question the truth of 2+2=4. No I can proudly wear the crown of imbecility!". See where your logic fails miserably? Of course you do.
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So, in closing, I won, you lost, go fuck yourself!
Love and peace :*
TheKainMan 1 month ago
Righto! The only logical model for reality is an infinite universe with an inherent quantum. We don't know if there is an end to the quantum, but quanta have been observed; molecules, atoms, particles. True creation is true "something from nothing". Magic.
40gabe 3 months ago
Firstly, "nothingness" is a mistranslation. Secondly, your limited sensory apparatus has misled you into thinking that "time" is as you perceive it. Thirdly, your impassioned speech is devoid of logic, it is rhetorical and driven by paradigmatic thinking, not critical thinking. You couldn't construct an argument that follows logical form, much less an argument that is valid. Read Dr. Keith Yandell's, "The Epistemology of Religious Experience" and have a nice tall glass of, shut the fuck up!
timhaas1 4 months ago
funny "not known" for why or how but then when you offer a why & a how as in a GOD theory they call you names. no one else has come up with a why or how this universe came to be except creationists. so like i believe its true so i say so. the only rebuttal they have is"you a stupid face"all i know is they pose a question,then i give an answer,then i get insulted. that sounds like an ego trip or at least a basic bias towards people of a faith. yikes
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
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iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
No idiot i'm a fucking sexist your just a fucking troll looking for pissed people off with you 'i like to type in big caps for attention' your wasn't looking rational exchange quit trying to be Mr nice guy just because i pawed you in argument lol. If you just wanted a "rational exchange of ideas" you should of acted like but you didn't so do us all a favor, shut the fuck up already nobody wants to hear you bitch in Big Caps about God and Jesus and ramdon shit. Try Shockofgod
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x Wow so you concede you started this farce?Paw Me, wait are you a cat?
You also concede i did not call you a satanist? That you admitted to it freely? And how dare you speak for everyone. I was perfectly willing to leave this issue in the past,but your constant harassment leaves little room for that.And who is trying to get attention? Do i try to put you down? Do i call you names?
Once again i'll try to leave this in the past.By allmeans keep letting ppl know how u spend your time
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
"Your constant harassment'
Dude who is one who started this whole argument? YOU!!!
Who is the one who keeps replying to every single comment on this page? YOU!!!
And who is the one who keeps make up lies about how i'm a Satanist, Sexist Biggiot? YOU AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!
Who's the one who is trying to force his "GOD" myth on everyone on this page?? YOU GUESS IT!!!
Youre just a hypocrite who never shuts the fuck up. What r u 12? Is this how you spend your time?
Asswiipe
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x No i gave an opinion. You mistook the meaning of that opinion and started profanely insulting me.You called yourself a satanist,not me(as in i typed you told me you were).You are the one calling me a what was it? " a little bitch" as if calling me a derogatory term for a women isnt sexist? Oh yeah and a "trolling fag" as if using someone's sexual orientation as a derogatory term isnt bigoted? and of course "stupid" i'm the one who keeps getting these rants in the inbox "constantly".
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
For the 100th a last fucking time, i never said i was satanist! It called sarcasm. Get a dictionary and look the word up because you have no clue what the fuck it means. Why would i call my self a satanist if i don't believe a damn word of the bible or that Satan even exist? There is no other way to put it. your fucking stupid.
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x 1st you call it a joke,then sarcasm..Well I am laughing at how much time you waste of your own life to try and bring me down!But how can anyone be fucking stupid? Is there a smart way to fuck?And yet you admit i never called you a satanist you typed it first,then i typed about what you typed.Really not a word,how about "the" or "air"?Now that's sarcasm.And if you really understood thermodynamics you'd know there is a GOD.But yo wut ev.That asidewhatabout the federal reserveconspiracy?
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
sarcasm fits under the joke category.Do you own a dictionary?. And no, i don't need to "bring you down" lol I think i heard that in a J-lo song or something lol.
As for the federal reserve conspiracy, Alex Jones(even if he is right) need to be put in a mental institution. Nutcase for sure. Kinda like people who believe the bible =0 did i just say that?
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x Holy schnicke's!!!!!! Did we just agree on something?!?!? Me i think Alex jones is a jesuit puppet.The jesuits(who own the illuminati) are controlled by satanists.If you don't believe in him or GOD that's fine.But these tyrants do they literally worship & perform satanistic human sacrifice's! I get testy cuz ive delt with real satanist's b4.......It was not fun.....
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
I have no clue what jesuit puppet is but i just type Alex Jones in on the Youtube and this came up "Alex jones: the Justin Beber rant" LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
Spider58x 10 months ago
WOW ITS NOT YELLING,THEIR LINES ON A PAGE.
AND WAY TO PROVE YOUR A SEXIST WITH THOSE REMARKS
ALSO YOUR THE ONE WHO STARTED INSULTING ME,I JUST PROVIDED AN OPINION AND IDEA,WHICH ACCORDING TO YOU IF ITS DIFF THAN YOUR IS A "CAPITOL" OFFENSE(PUN).YES AN AGENDA: TO GIVE AN OPINION,NOT FORCE IT ON SOMEONE THAN INSULT THEM IF THEY DISAGREE,UNLIKE YOU.THATS NOT AN ATTACK JUST OBSERVATION
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
"Youre the one who stated insulting me"
Your the one who started this coversation int the FIRST PLACE!!!Go back and read you first comment to me and you'll know why i did. First, you called me a satanist when you said "The book of sataism is the worst book ever written"(your words not mine) implying that i worship Satan. You know the one you took down.
Second, you have been trolling me and other people for about a day now. Just leave and take your stupid preaching somewher else you trolling fag
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x owe just owe if i wanted to call you a satanist i would have said "your a satanist" i was merely pointing out my opinion about me thinking the bible is a better book than the one alester crowely wrote i didnt mean for you to take offense also your the one who insulted me first by calling me stupid but again these are just lines on a page so unless you disagree with what you just quoted me saying i wont "bother" you with any more of my opinion good day to you sir Health and Truth toall
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
Just providing my opinion,brought about by selective reasoning.As all scientists selectively reason theirs.All knowledge is based on only what is known not what is unknown.So how can any of us so we know something,hell we could all be pods in the matrix or fleas on GODs back,or a giant bean burrito.Now thats sarcasm.
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
OH YEAH AND ONE MORE THING THEY PREACH ABOUT THERMODYNAMICS PROVING THAT ENERGY CANT BE CREATED OR DESTROYED LIKE ITS THEIR BIBLE BUT RIDDLE ME THIS SATANISTS. WHY DID THE ENERGY CHANGE TO CREATE THIS WHOLE UNIVERSE? WHY DID IT ( THE APPARENT GODLESS ENERGY) MORPH INTO US? WE WHO CAN CREATE AND DESTROY OBJECTS?SO THIS ENERGY WAS JUST BOUNCING AROUND &JUST BANG INSTA HUMANS FROM NOTHING BUT PURE ENERGY WITH NO THOUGHT OR FEELING HO HO SANTAS HERE AND HES GOT THERMO UNDERQWEAR LOL WHY WHY WHY
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
YES PEOPLE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT SOMEONE ELSE TOLD THEM OUT OF A BOOK,WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT CHRISTIANS DO!!!!!! HA HA HA
WELL THERMODYNAMICS DO DA DO,HA HA HA THEY DO THE SAME THING AS CHRISTIANS I THINK THATS JUST HILARIOUS OH ME OH MY I HAVENT LAUGHED THAT HARD IN A LONG TIME ...................
THERMODYNAMICS........ HO-N-HA HA OH MY SIDES THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
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iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
A vacuum is not nothing, but something because it has space. Also saying that the energy that makes up the universe has always existed while not a false statement is certainly misleading. It has been here since the beginning of time, so technically that is "always" but saying it always existed kind of implies the universe has always been here (ie didn't have a beginning) which is demonstrably not true.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 When I say "Complete nothingness" I am not referring to a vacuum. I am actually referring to absolute, complete nothingness. I agree this universe had a "beginning", but the energy that caused that beginning has always existed in the multiverse for as long as their has been time. Everythingness is the default state of things instead of nothingness, therefore creation is not possible.
CultOfDusty 10 months ago
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iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@CultOfDusty You say "vacuum" in your clip in the same breath as this "nothingness" you refer to. Also, we cannot know anything about this universe (or the energy therein) prior to the big bang. There is no prior as far as we can tell. M-theory posits a multiverse, but still (as yet) says nothing about the origins of this universe or where the energy for it came from. Unless you are moving this cult along to accepting that you have "special knowledge" this video is just plain wrong.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 CHECK ME AND SPIDER58X COMMENTS HE ADMITS HE IS A SATANIST THATS WHAT THIS WHOLE PAGE IS FOR TO MAKE SOME PEOPLE FEEL STUPID AND TO PROFANELY INSULT OTHERS ALL THE TIME WHILE TRYING TO CONVINCE EVERYONE ELSE THERE IS NO GOD, I ACTUALLY GOT HIM TO ADMIT IT HA HA AHA HAH HO HO OH MY THE FOOL
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
BTW the reason i said satanist in the first place is because in a earlier comment to me you said and i quote "The Book of Satanism is the worst book ever written" but you removed the comment like the little pussy bitch you are. When is said i was a satanist is was a sarcastic response to that since that's you called me a satanist in the first place. But keep making an ass out of your self. I haven't had this much fun on youtube in a long time.
Cheers ;)
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x I removed the comment because i fked up the reasoning.so it wasnt complete or very intelligent.
Second no one in their right mind jokes about being a satanist.Every joke has a sliver of truth.Also i never called you a satanist i talked about your insults to christian beliefs you asked for evidence,as far as evidence goes in the court of law the bible would be considered documentation as it came about roughly the same time as this supposed jesus.I didnt:saywithoutdoubtthats preference
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
"i fked up the reasoning . so it wasnt complete or very intelligent"
Nothing you ever said on here was complete or intelligent. The only thing you want here is attention with you big caps typing. Which reminds me of the all the chicks that i went to high school and college with, just attention whores with a IQ below room temperature You're no different from them as far as I'm concerned.
Spider58x 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike Dude, there is no God. I disagree with Dusty about what can be known about the big bang, but I am intelligent enough to realise that God is fictional. I gave up imaginary friends many years ago, and perhaps you should to. Incidently, typing with the caps lock on does not make you seem more intelligent.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 Contradiction: you state what happened b4 the big bang can't be known.But you discount the possibility of GOD.A being from another dimension,that could have brought something into this dimensions nothingness.Thats my theory have fun disproving it.
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike MORON ALERT! Can't be known DOES NOT MEAN GOD DID IT. I discount the idea that God did it on the same grounds that I discount that magic space pixies did it. It adds nothing to our understanding of what happened, and it can't be tested. Saying "I don't know" is simply an honest answer based on the evidence.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 My referral to the vacuum was an explanation of peoples incorrect view of nothingness. The problem is when you do short videos you can not explain every little detail or you lose people.
It seems logical to me that the default state of things can not be complete nothingness because nothing can come from nothing. Therefore this can not be the default state of things. It takes no special knowledge to believe 0 + 0 = 0.
CultOfDusty 10 months ago
@CultOfDusty It may seem logical to you, but it is simply not knowable. The universe began with a singularity which means all the laws of physics were compromised. There is also the question of whether an equal amount of anti-matter/matter was created, thus maintaining equilibrium, but ultimately we cannot know and your assertion is not supported by science. Scrap this vid and replace it with one that is factually accurate. Love your work, but you are in error here.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 I appreciate your concerns, and while this is not my favorite vid, I still do not see how it errors with science. How can the default state of things be complete nothingness? If it were ever complete nothingness, wouldn't it still be complete nothingness? Therefore by default doesn't that mean that the default state of things must have been somethingness?
CultOfDusty 10 months ago
@CultOfDusty Science is about what we can observe. True, there are areas which are very conceptual (M-theory/string theory would be included here) but they still make predictions which are testable. We exist within this universe where time began 13.7 billion years ago and all matter/energy came into being. We cannot know what came before. To say you know is no different from a theist saying "God done it". You are making it up so you are no better than a creationist.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 I understand what your saying here, but this is sorta a philosophical issue. You can't really "know" anything for 100% (beyond your on existence perhaps). I'm not saying this is something I know to be a fact, but rather this is what I have reasoned to be more probable than not based on the information I currently have. I'm more than willing to change my beliefs if I attain better information then the information I already posses.
CultOfDusty 10 months ago
@CultOfDusty Science says we don't know. We can't know. You say "this is what I reasoned". You have done nothing but speculate, same as creationists do. So does this mean they can "logic slap" you now? We don't know what came before. Just state that instead of speculate. There is no rule that says we have to know. If you think you do know, go to uni, get a degree in cosmology then submit your "reason" for peer review. Otherwise you don't know, you are guessing same as they are.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 I enjoy watching creationists/theists get slapped! Logic slapped is as fun as any other. But slap them with the good stuff. Slapping them with speculation can't possibly hurt as much as slapping them with established scientific fact.
You have some great vids here, but this one is weak and cheapens the others. I just don't want to let them off the hook. Check out the youtube vid "A Universe From Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss and keep slapping!
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 I find it odd that you say "nothing hurts as much as slapping them with scientific fact"as all science is based on existence,this existence.Also why "hurt" thats negative. And still have not answered a why this singularity that a singularity that you admit compromised the known laws of physics happened in the first place.An explosion of any kind does not create a sophisticated simetrical being such as us.If it did create anything it would be franken-ish.
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike MORON ALERT! The big bang theory is seperate from abiogenesis which is seperate from the theory of evolution. Go and get a basis high school education (pref not from the US) and come back when you understand what you are talking about.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 Oh yes of course calling me a moron and not disproving my theory really convinced me you know more than me. and and still you talked about not knowing what happend b4 which isnt what i said isaid a"why" which are two diff things
1HOW
2WHY
BOTH OF WHICH ARE B4 THE EVENT BUT LET me guess your response will be "your a big dummy,im a scientist" if any of you guys could of actually talked in stead of just throwing insults i might of had respect for yall but wutev bye!
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike I apologize for calling you a moron. It's just so frustrating hearing the same regurgitated crap from creationists. And no, I am not a scientist - as far as science goes I only have a high-school education. The rest I have taught myself which is exactly what I would encourage you to do. You have internet access so there is no excuse for your ignorance. Find out what you are arguing against BEFORE you argue against it.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 allimsaying is thattheenergy in this dimen(thermodynamics)was here then wastransformed to the universe (big bang/creation/evolution) andconstructed (all string theorys) orcreated likea artist makes a song out of sound.i thinkmost theorys are correct ) but if you combine most withthat artist idea its the only one that gives a why.ill do more research and fine tune it(like an instrument lol)who else but a GOD could manipulate the laws of all these theorys"my ways are not your ways" later
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike It is obvious that you have no idea what you are talking about re the laws of physics. It's like you are inserting random words to try to make yourself sound knowledgeable. Just makes you sound more stupid.
"Who else?" Stupid question that has no answer. It's like "Who shit the moon out of their arse?" You can answer God to your who question, but just as easily answer Allah, Zeus or magical space pixies. Adds nothing to our understanding, explains nothing predicts nothing.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 uh holy crap, you miss the point. all the laws of physics are based on existence. the q is b4 existence so obviously your smart sounding "laws of physic" dont applly to an existence that doesnt exist yet. "spiritual existence" that can change energy thus creating existence. & yes scientificaly you cant prove/disprove it. but thats the whole point. and yes it does explain something,and predict something. and thats not from some blind sheep point of viewitsjusttheonlyanswer that fits
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 oh and of course who else but ARSEMOONICUSS SHITER OF MOONS!!!
LOLLOL LOL
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike And BTW I can't "disprove" your HYPOTHESIS. Nobody can, which is why it is a stupid hypothesis (scientifically speaking). If it is not disprovable or testable then it is useless. Saying "God done it" makes no predictions and adds nothing to our understanding. So why bother with it? Our model of the universe works just as well without it, or with an equally ludicrous notion (magical space pixies done it/the flying spaghetti monster done it).
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 By that criteria it doesn't seem like you would be able to make any definitive statement, because without possessing 100% of the information, which no one could do, everything is speculation.
But i do understand what your saying. This video was meant as more of a thought experiment rather than a scientific proposition, and is meant to show Christians how their concept of an all powerful God who has always existed is inconsistent with creation.
CultOfDusty 10 months ago
@Hamulus8 After thinking about it, perhaps your point is that logic, or what we perceive as logic, is only logical in this particular "dimension", and therefore on a different plane of existence it might be logical for something to come from nothingness?
CultOfDusty 10 months ago
@CultOfDusty We can't possibly see "past" the beginning of our universe. It is illogical to say that we can. To say that something existed before the beginning of time is to say that this was not the beginning of time.
What is the difference between saying "logic tells us there must be a first cause, therefore it's God" and "logic tells us that the energy for this universe had to come from somewhere, therefore it always existed in another universe"? Neither statement is testable or predictive.
Hamulus8 10 months ago
@CultOfDusty good video :)
DarkBeauty1989 1 month ago
Perfectly said Dusty ★★★★★
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Katalyzt 10 months ago
Things are not created. Things are transformed from one thing to another thing.
LegionIscariot 11 months ago
Have you read the book of Job?
Many things in the bible are very harsh, somewhat hard to believe, some might say even foolish. But remember God doesnt look at mans outward appearence, God looks at our inward heart. If God didnt excercise judgement how would we know right or wrong; for by the law (of Moses) is the knowledge of sin.
Job suffered many hardships was inflected with sores head to toe, lost his children, flocks and houses, but God blessed him in his latter life coshe didnt sin
theageofgrace 11 months ago
Buddhists are cool, they may believe in spiritual stuff & karma, but they don't base their life on sucking a gods sons dick.
Have you ever seen a capitalist Buddhist? Republican Buddhist?
madjimms 11 months ago
@madjimms MAYBE MAYBE NOT BUT I KNOW OF MONKS THAT WORKED WITH NAZIS FOR THEIR OWN BELIEFS ABOUT ALIENS AND ANTI GRAVITY MACHINES HA HA THERE GOES YOUR THEORY AND WAY TO ADD PERVERSION TO ADD STRENGTH TO YOUR WEAK HATEFUL OPINION HA HA COOLSPIRITUAL STUFF &KARMA HUH? AND WHAT DO YOU THINK PUTTING OTHER PEOPLE DOWN IS? ITS NOT NICE! SO IT'S NOT GOOD KARMA.
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike Your caps lock must be stuck, either way I can't listen to someone who is yelling.
madjimms 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike You have an agenda, all one has to do is look on your channel...
madjimms 10 months ago
@madjimms thats right an agenda " to voice my opinion without fear of reprisals" if my style of like the caps better makes you feel like someone's yelling at you my bad but they are just lines on a page.
Health& Truth to you potential friend.
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike The only "truth" your comments have is YOUR truth.
madjimms 10 months ago
@madjimms REALLY? i give my opinion, also what i believe to be true but no one has given me an answer as to WHY the energy transformed.also the laws of thermodynamics do make perfect sense that energy cannot be created or destroyed in this universe.this system. this created universe. thiscreated system. there my opinion based on what ive seen here and on that shockGOD video that spider guy told me about,Also the comments dusty,spider,& you post contain what YOU believe to be true yes or no?
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike shockofgod is a fear monger.
madjimms 10 months ago
EVERYTHING CANNOT, I REPEAT CANNOT HAVE ALWAYS HAVE EXISTED. IT HAD TO HAVE A BEGINNING, EG: TIME MATTER AND SPACE. WHY YOU MAY ASK, LET ME TELL YOU. IF TIME ALWAYS EXISTED WE NEVER WOULD HAVE REACHED THIS MOMENT IN TIME THERE WOULD HAVE ALWAYS BEEN A NOW. THE UNIVERSE AND MATTER AND SPACE ARE NOT INFINITE(YOU CANNOT HAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF FINITE THINGS), WHY - OK TIMES TWO BY TWO BY TWO AND ADD DIVIDE SUBTRACT OR MULTIPLY IT UNTILL YOU REACH INFINITY, OOOH YOU CANT..
theageofgrace 11 months ago
@theageofgrace
You fail big time idiot.
Energy cannot be CREATED or DESTROYED!!!(first law of thermodynamics)
If everything had a Beginning then that mean that everything had to first come from NOTHING!!! Which is obviously false.
You can't get 1(something) from 0(nothing). 0=1(if everything had a beginning) is wrong, dead wrong!!
Spider58x 11 months ago
@Spider58x - well energy can be created if you have a creator. And everything we see can come from the things which are unseen, from God, which isnt fake if you believe the bible.
theageofgrace 11 months ago
@theageofgrace
What?
No, something that can't be created(energy) therefore can NOT have a creator behind it. Your just ignoring scientific facts which eliminates all creditability you have .
And no, i don't believe the bible for many reasons, don't get me started =P
Spider58x 11 months ago
@Spider58x - try me, tell me what bothers you about the bible.
theageofgrace 11 months ago
@theageofgrace
Noah Ark is obviously false
Hundreds of contradictions
It supports slavery, murder, rape, genicided, and blind submission to authority
The entire old testament is full of the worst shit even written by man
No evidence for the existence of Jesus
Most of the ten comments don't make sense and there should be much more
Exodus 11 :4-5 when god tells Moses to kill incident children in Egypt
and so on....
Spider58x 11 months ago
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@Spider58x - What do you think of Jesus.
theageofgrace 11 months ago
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iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spider58x 10 months ago
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iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
You know nothing about Thermodynamics don't you??? Energy can't be created or destroyed it just changes forms it CAN"T BE NET ZERO proven by the uncertainty principle(look it up)
BTW I'm still laughing at the first comment. Chris Rock has nothing you. Your an comedic genius.
I'M GOING TO POST YOUR FIRST COMMENT TO ME ON ALL OF MY ATHEIST FRIENDS PAGE SO THEY CAN GET IN ON THE FUN TOO.!!!!
I'm such an evil atheist/satanist =)
Welcome to Youtube
Have Fun ;)
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x HA HA HA HA HA HA HA LOL I GOT YOU TO ADMIT THAT YOU ARE A SATANIST
WHO WAS IT THATS LAUGHING? LOL HA HA HA HA
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
that was a joke you idiot. I'm not a satanist. That was obvious sarcasm dumb ass. You stupidity is off the charts. But i was 12 years old once so i understand your pain.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x Again with the insults,always resorting to such childish ways of communication.
EX: "well your a poopy face ,so i win by default"
AND BY THE WAY YOU KNOW NOTHING OF REAL PAIN
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
@iwanttocrashmybike
"Again with the insults, always resorting to such childish ways of communication"
Like when you called me a satanist that wasn't a childish way of communication. Keep contradicting your self you troll. Nobody here takes your stupidity seriously
Spider58x 10 months ago
@Spider58x DUDE WONT EVEN ADMIT WHAT HE TYPED YOU SAID JOKE OR NO JOKE YOU ARE
"ATHEIST/SATANIST" I TYPED THAT YOU ADMITED IT. I DIDNT CALL YOU A SATANIST I TYPED ABOUT YOU ADMITING IT YO & I USE CAPS CUZ I LIKE THE STLE AND ITS EASIER TO READ. .AND YET STILL NO RATIONAL THOUGHT JUST EMOTIONAL ATTACKS
YOU SHOULD JUST STAND IN FRONT OF THE MIRROR IF ALL YOU WANT IS SOMEONE TO BELITTLE.
iwanttocrashmybike 10 months ago
my theory is that our universe as it is now all sprung out of a black hole. like a quazar. black holes have huge ammount of gravity, so black holes attract other black holes. and after a huge amount of time all the black holes attracted achother into one huge black hole that in the end exploaded ( look up quazars) and created the universe we're in now.
the only part that ppl find hard to get is that everything have allways existed. wich is ofcourse hard to comprehend.
MooseHunter911 11 months ago
theism is believing in eternity as if you believe in eternity something that can not be grasped by the human mind then you are believing in god something on the same level as eternity that can not be grasped by the human mind, it all comes down to facts and science and theism get along just fine but science religion dont
lasciencefan 1 year ago
@lasciencefan Theism is the assertion that a entity of some sort created everything (this can be sub divided in to the many religions that reflect this.) The human mind at this stage cannot comprehend everythink i agree, however what you have to remenber is that this theism has a very human emotion. For centuries many people have been killed in the name of religion for not believeing in the human interuptation of this entity. Science priciples are based on what we can see, hear, and test.
loudman12 1 year ago
@loudman12 science can not test the supernatural as it is not there to test in a conventional way. One day maybe we will be able to. But theism asserts that this supernatural entity is real and he has certain standards, so basically claiming they know the "Unknowable"
loudman12 1 year ago
@loudman12 if the God Thing is Unknowable, then christians and believers have lied to them selfs thinking they know, if a So called God as u but it, Created everything, then God is a Atheist Scientist, what Created a Lie.
Science Moves Forwards, Beliefs Stay Behind, u believers ever want to clhallenge any one, the challenge the Ultimate Atheist. WITH NO BELIEFS,
realnameunknown2011 1 year ago
@realnameunknown2011 hey im not a believer i am a atheist :) at the end of the day, my position is that i can not stand here and say 100% that there could be no god. My assertion is that the religious people have not yet proved that one exsists, they make the claim, they need to prove it. science will set us free completley one day, untill then its a constant battle with people who do not want to progress.
loudman12 1 year ago
@loudman12
sorry the way it, might sound i was not calling u a believer, it was more of a message 4 the room, i mist typed it was ment to say as they but it..
realnameunknown2011 1 year ago
@loudman12 but theism is not religion religion is just foolish men who think they are smarter then everyone else, most scientists are theists and there is very good reasons to believe in a higher power that ordered life ands allowed it to happen science will never explain where the diversity of life came from science is very limited in what it can tell us
lasciencefan 1 year ago
@lasciencefan Theism is the term dedicated to the explanation of religion and the clerks, etc that study the bible and the teachings, thus i consider it to be a religion through its assocation."Most sciencetists are theists2 No they are not 95% of sciencetists reject the idea of god, I suggest you look this up before you type it on here. "Science will never explain the diverstiy of life" UH they have and will continue to learn more as time progresse's. Our genetic code has unlocked our past.
loudman12 1 year ago
@loudman12 and our close association will other forms of life. Let me ask you for you to make that comment do you have a good understanding of the science for that particular field? I would say no as if you had, those comments you would not have typed in the first place. I did study into evolutionary biology and genetic structures amd once I learned this It became easier I suggest do some research learn the basics then you have a better understanding.
loudman12 1 year ago
that was a great point about science teachesthat everything always existed as it can not concieve how anything could have a beginning it agrees with theism so perfectly thatyswhy athiests should stop using science against theism and creationists organised religious people should stop trying to use science against science
lasciencefan 1 year ago
@lasciencefan Well not really theism is the assertion that God (depending on what religion you follow) poofed everything out of nothing!!!. Know their is hardly any information or evidence to prove this, so how can science agree with theists?//
loudman12 1 year ago
scientist never proved anything. without logic there is no logic so basicly you have no standard for logic
TheStrawbeery 1 year ago
@TheStrawbeery I think you mean science never proved anything is that correct.
loudman12 1 year ago
@loudman12 yes that is correct
TheStrawbeery 1 year ago
@TheStrawbeery well science has proven that the apparant cure for leprosy is not killing two birds and sprinkling of the blood on the victim. science has proven that the earth circles the sun, not the other way around. Science has proven that the world is not flat, and the world is older then 4000 years. Science has proven that diseases are bacterial infections, not demons pocessing people, need i go on?
loudman12 1 year ago
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TheStrawbeery 1 year ago
@loudman12 scientists never proved that creation was a theory
TheStrawbeery 1 year ago