Philosophy & philosphers exposed...FUNNY Sh. Yasir Qadhi...

[handyman4791]

I lol'ed

Philosophy is useless because they can't agree

Then rubes the cawk of Allah

Ya see the dogmatism?

[blugublu]

And when I talk about philosophy, i'm refering to it as it is taught in schools and college.

Because, indeed, philosophy as a concept lives through Islam. But obviously, you know Islam much less that we muslims know philosophy. So the dialogue is not worth much.

Sorry for my english.

[blugublu]

You guys don't understand that when a muslim sees the work of a philosopher, he feels pity, really. We're far from being afraid of this.

I studied it too and I'm far from being a man who grew up in a religious family. I studied for myself and philosophy courses in highschool (I'm french) did help me wondering on existential issues, but when I compare the work of philosophers and the work of muslim scholars, my choice is quickly made.

In comparison, philosophy is a big waste of time.

[Blodhosta]

What he's arguing is not that philosophy is useless, but that studying historical philosophers is useless. That is one of the standard moves of radicals. I'm not saying he is one (I don't know him), but the attitude of "don't even look into other ways of thinking than this" is the trademark of all fundamentalism - whether political or religious.

Also, many people get a lot out of studying philosophy. The fact that he did not says more about him than it does about the intellectual history.

[cotMiasto]

his assumption about the 'premise of philosophy' is wrong, but he needs this misconception because his whole reasoning against philosophy is based on it.

[MrRuggedboy27]

@ The Laig 88 u are a muslim and you swear and do Gheebah, may Allah guide you

[mrAsim7]

@HamzaAndreasTzortzis

Can i ask as probably many ask, why hide behing Hamza's name

[hendersoncnc]

normally u put the link up..can u put the link to the full lecture and the abrdur rahman green one where he talks about megan fox..jzk

[ByChoiceMuslim]

@HamzaAndreasTzortzis Real Hamza would never say that. Get a life loser!

[Idriss9]

From which lecture is this video?

[ByChoiceMuslim]

What about the Muslim Philosophers like Al Khindhi, Ibn Sina, Al Farabi, Al-Ghazzali, Junaid Baghdadi and many others who were also Scholars, Jurist Faqih just like them?

[TheBeardedMan01]

I am sorry but the sheikh has no idea about philosophy. He says the basic premise of philosophy is false. But that right there is a philosophical statement. And if the premise is false than philosophy, through the means of logic, is also false. So the sheikhs argument is self-refuting.

[IndoMan11]

@TheBeardedMan01 lol, unfortunately a 4 minute video can't really explain the depths of Sh. Yasir's view point. When he taught Light of Guidance in Toronto, he spent about an entire saturday working through philosophy, and he did actually cover his sources for the premise, and go over a lot of our questions. If you get the chance at all, you should try to check out the class inshaAllah

[syahzamin]

Philosophy is the life manual for the confused.

[ashdotman1981]

He mentions plato's cave and then said "that's aristotle by the way". I don't think he knows much about what he is saying, even though in some parts he is funny, I think that he just doesn't understand the relationship between ideas and the world and also questioning your own prejudices/biases. He may have some of his own? I don't know but I think it all falls down to the individual because philosophy makes perfect sense to me.

[MrAnonymity]

You were the only person in class who didn't get any of it?

[swt2chlk]

hive five yasir qadhi

[jumbosearch]

masha ALLAH again yasir qadhi jsk

[virtualpigmaster]

The difference in theories has troubled me. However, it doesn't prove that we will get our answers from divine revelation. The solution to this problem is that there are no absolute truths when it comes to morality, and no spiritual realm at all. The basic truths of the physical world, discovered by science, are universal. Plus, philosophy does make sense and is relevant, you just don't understand them and have tried to find an excuse. (Also, "forms and caves" is Plato, not Aristotle! Genius...)

[HugoBrendonFraga]

I haven't taken the time to read earlier posts, so if this is redundant I apologize. What I find most amusing about Sheikh Yasir Qadhi's rant is the fact that he's using syllogistic and truth-functional statements to spin an argument against philosophy. In doing so he is utilizing principles of logic; a branch of philosophy. In other word he is employing methods of reasoning that were originally developed by the academic discipline he himself is slandering. Seems contradictory no?

[imaan4success]

yasir qadhi is a clear ignaramous...this basic premise he claims to the basis of philosophy is a baseless assumption. This idea that two philosophers never agreed on many issues...again a baseless claim as this is something that is impossible to know or prove. I think the only truth he spoke was admitting he never understood it and it doesn't make sense to him. How can a person comment on a field he does not understand? not only is this contradictory but also lunacy.

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@imaan4success There is no time in these types of lectures to non-Muslims, to go into intricacies of philosophy. That was not the purpose here. He made a generic and general point, which is 100% true, that philosophers have no Objective standard or criteria by which to follow in their methodology. It is all subjective. If you don't understand this point, then you are lost. Your name is "imaan4success". You must be a person of Kalam offended by the statements towards your classical Greek masters.

[imaan4success]

@MrSHIZZLE4u Like pointed out, his arguments are based upon baseless assumptions. Of course you if you can back them up then I will wait for the evidences. If you can not, then this just further proves my point. Also in order for you to defend his position, you need to respond to each and every point I made. Not just throw out blanket statements with out any truth to it. Just claiming what he said is true does not make it so. And please, leave out teh ad hominems it's childish.

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@imaan4success First off, don't try and take the moral high ground regarding ad hominems. Your initial comment here called Qadhi an 'ignoramus' as well as a 'lunatic'. Practise what you preach, else you just look ridiculous and insincere.

"Respond to each and every point"? You made no relevant point. You took a generic statement and read too much into it. If you want to take it up with Yasir Qadhi, he is available online at al-Maghrib and MuslimMatters. I am not here as his representative.......

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@MrSHIZZLE4u and it was clear that his statements about the characteristics of philosophers was general and to make a bigger point. i.e it was a figure of speech. What you are clearly doing is trying to pick on his words about "no two philosophers agreeing on anything" and blow this figure of speech up into something with which you will base an entire argument on. This shows your desperation in the matter and it also shows how you people of Kalam will defend, and have more time for.............

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@MrSHIZZLE4u your Greek Mushrik theological masters, rather than a Muslim. This shows the origins of your doctrine.

Oh and by the way, I just now clicked on your channel page, and it seems my initial thoughts were indeed correct - you are a person of Kalam. Quite frankly, my friend, you people have been refuted centuries ago.In the contemporary context, you have nothing new to offer.........................­.

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@MrSHIZZLE4u If you actually want to make some points here regarding your defence of philosophy in doctrinal/theological matters, then please go ahead. I'll be happy to converse with you. But if you are here to pick on peoples' generic figures of speech, then I have no time for your cheap and desperate ramblings.

[imaan4success]

@MrSHIZZLE4u You should read your own comments, so far all I have done is point out the baseless assumptions made by yasir qadhi and yourself which you can not seem admit. I keep asking for the evidences, and all I get is sheer rhetoric, just a whole bunch of speculation. Generic figures of speech? Yasir qadhi and yourself made some claims, i'm waiting for the evidences. If you can prove what you claim, I will accept it. But if you can not then you have to admit your wrong and ignorance.

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@imaan4success I see that the comments we are making are going all over the place as they are submitted on YouTube. I will message you to continue this discourse. It will make things much easier to follow.

[imaan4success]

@MrSHIZZLE4u OK that's it, the above just shows the type of person you are. Claiming mushrikeen are my masters? Prove that statement if you are truthful. But you will never be able to do so, because it is a clear lie. You also claimed me to be a person of kalam? Define kalam, then bring your evidences to support another accusation of yours. It seems you can't help but continually make claims without any evidences. Prove your accusations.

[imaan4success]

@MrSHIZZLE4u Firstly, I called yasir qadhi what he admitted himself on this issue, he admitted to not understanding philosophy, that makes him an ignoramus so if you have a problem with that, take it up with him. And don't lie and put words into my mouth, i never called him a lunatic. Again here you go ignoring the points i made and not addressing them. Merely claiming they are irrelevant does not make it so. You have to demonstrate it. You made some claims I am still waiting for the evidences.

[MrSHIZZLE4u]

@imaan4success My friend, for a person who holds so dearly to "Logic" and Deduction, you really are showing desperation and a lack of said concepts. Please don't waste my time. If you are here to discuss something substantial, then do so. But if you are here to indulge in "he said, she said" types of discourse, then run along.

If it's the latter, then I bid you farewell. If it's the former, then تفضل.

[imaan4success]

@MrSHIZZLE4u Firstly, back up your claims and accusations with evidences. I am still waiting. If you can not, then please take your own advice. How am I showing desperation? All you have so far is nothing but sheer rhetoric and baseless assumptions. I am still waiting for the evidences. Of course you are unable to provide any. Still you seem to think you are winning somehow? SubhanAllah. I will wait for you to prove your claims and accusations, until then there is nothing to discuss.

[saadbaradan]

@MrSHIZZLE4u That philosophers have no methodology or objective standard is false. The scientific method is to science as logic is to philosophy. Philosophers analyze arguments and their tool for doing so is logic via validity, soundness, etc..Furthermore, the underlying premise of philosophy, that we can use our brains to understand reality, is the same premise underlying science. Its' brains that produce a biology that purports evolution or a physics that purports the eternity of the world.

[pinkrose101s]

mashAllah AWESOME!

[farhan00]

Genius!

Philosophers ask questions that no one asked, that do not need to be answered by the common person. To be blunt, its stupid.

[110319701]

Fool