this video assumes quite a few things, a person with boxing experience would never
have the kind of stance leaning forward arms out and not in a tight guard, it also assumes
the boxer wouldn't have already thrown a punch (or multiple punches). that may work with
someone acting tough that can't fight but I doubt you'll get the jump on a real boxer coming straight in, you'll get eaten alive, I've taken judo and boxed some. you won't come in straight on a boxer, not like that,
@TRontheLegacy thank u finally some one with some fighting sense. this is pretty much a joke boxing is way too effective just to be taken out in one sweep lol no fucking way
this video assumes quite a few things, a person with boxing experience would never
have the kind of stance leaning forward arms out and not in a tight guard, it also assumes
the boxer wouldn't have already thrown a punch (or multiple punches). that may work with
someone acting tough that can't fight but I doubt you'll get the jump on a real boxer coming straight in, you'll get eaten alive, I've taken judo and boxed some. you won't come in straight on a boxer, not like that,
Very nice moves and it'd work on a lot of people but then again there are those that'd land a straight right on your cheek since you don't step out before after you get the grip on his hand, I'd say it'd be a perfect move with a step out though.
This is comedy gold! Yeah let met get in this half-ass stance and the walk forward and not throw a punch. Might work if the person is piss drunk. I guess that is what the guy was trying to show.
you can tell the boxers arms are conpletely loose this guy was throwing him about like a ragdoll with no resistance but some of this does work on some VERY rare occurances
nice moves...boxing is cool i guess.... saw a 18 year old thts learning jeet kune do, beat the crap out of a 32 year old boxer who has been boxing since his early teens...
You are very fast! And while I think these one steps are very over simplified and may not work against an experienced or educated fighter, you would probably lock up some schmo on the street.
should work if you re super cool and the boxer charges. But in general there are many escapes for the boxer and one who punches in good angles should get away and counter pretty fast. good technique anyway ( i train in boxing)
1. Boxers aren't stupid. If they're in a stance, then chances are they're a boxer and they understand where striking and clinching distance is. No boxer would initiate at a distance where they could get hit or grabbed.
2. Boxers have good footwork. "Getting out of the way of the punches" by side stepping is pure retardation because boxers will side step and eat up whatever isn't covered. And if you did dodge a punch you'd probably only dodge a jab. They aren't dumb enough to do haymaker combos.
besides everyone in boxe stance will wait for a front attack, but in this technique you quickly got out of his punches' way and attacked from the side veeery quickly, so even if this "boxer" tried to hit you, if you do the technique correctly then he will just be hitting the air of course speed and technique are needed to do this O.O
lo i had never seen it, but i'll train it in my dojo now xD
boxers won't let their hands be taken from them. and they won't just stand, they will step in and give you a quick upper or body blow. this will work on those who think they can box.
grabbing is very unlikely boxers are trained to go in fast and come back fast. like evryone else is saying this would only work with an average person that doesnt know how to fight not a guy that really knows how to box depending on exp
this is good against any drunk idiot but if it was someone who really knew how to box then u would get destroyed. i recommend shooting on a boxers front leg just bc u never know how good someone is. never underestimate anyone
really good video but if you gonna fight with real boxer you must get hit before you get in the stance to wear him down ...sorry for grammar mistakes i am from serbia...:D
good techniques, but his stance is toooo WRONG! the elbows are like chicken wings, (the stance is to couver the chin/head) he´s got his fists over the head, wrong footwork ... it would be harder if there´s a real boxer...but i don´t want to correct u´r vid...the techniques are very good :)
that *could* work on an inexperienced fighter, but I wouldn't try it. Chances are if he's in a boxing stance, he already knows basic boxing and as soon as you step in for the grab he will knock your teeth out.
@wolfmotheresque NO MOST FOLKS DONT KNOW BASIC ANYTHING THEY JUST BRAWL. BUT WHAT IS THE SOMEONE KNOWS A SYSTEM THAT DOMINATES BOXING THEN NO TEETH SHALL BE MISSING.
IM SICK OF FOLKS PLACING ALL THE COOKIES IN THE BOXERS JAR!
@wolfmotheresque not necessarily. these days, with the popularity of mma and all, EVERYBODY thinks they can fight. some guys can bluff very well with an adequate stance...seeing what he does with it is a totally different story. i'd be more afraid of the guy who acts completely calm in a fight and DOESN't put his arms up--can't read them at all.
and yea, i know im replyin to a comment that's 1yr old. just makin a point is all.
@wolfmotheresque I don't agree. Many people will adopt a 'boxing' stance because they have seen movies and had a number of fights in the street, even if they don't have any real training. But every technique has risks, this looks better than many I have seen.
@kage110 Yep i agree, also thrown your front leg towards a knee to step in while u throw a jab puts off most ppl leading to a balls kick which takes down everyone except very experienced mma fighters ive found.Tho u still have to protect your chin.Any experienced fighter will throw a punch while lifting his other hand to his chin.Most black boys do this and if u anticipate it this move will work exactly the same.
@ rockos414 I agree that it is not likely that someone gives up their arm. However if we assume they are a panicked attacker, or if they are lets say drunk at a bar, this would be a good technique that if preformed quickly would be effective. Against you? Not so much.
I have done it two time live at work at a club. one time it was while guy wanted to push me and second when he rise up his hands up in wide guard saying "what the f..k You want" :)
I go two time a week for private box lessons only teacher and me a I tell You real good boxer want give You a chance. quick strike and hand come back the same line in tide guard back. :)
It's possible, but is it likely no. I practice BJJ and no one ever just lets you take their arm. I just don't see someone giving up their arm in a street fight.
Agreed but I will tell you what does work. A judo hip toss done with the right technique. I do MMA grapling and even going full blast it still works on almost everyone i try it on despite how simple and common it is but it's all about the technique it really is.
i had a security guard try that shit on me....i knocked his ass the fuck out...gud luck with this shit...i guess its for skinny weak ppl with no exp.....
Thats not a proper boxing stance at all. This is more the type of guy who's seen one or two boxing matches and thinks he can fight like that in a street fight.
This will work as well when he starts to punch. There is other similar tech. to this which also eliminate boxer punch. You can end by breaking bone and match is over to any boxer. All ppl who take Aikido, BJJ, JiuJitsu are aware of this.
@TICZMELIFE So... dumbass. How are they "aware" of it?
You better start taking scientific approaches to things instead of automatically accepting your moronic ass hypothesis as truth. If you remain in your ignorance a situation like this may arise and you could get yourself hurt badly.
When he "starts" to punch? Tell me what boxer telegraphs a jab to the point where you have enough time to side step. One jab faint and hook you're out cold on the ground with your wallet stolen and face stomped.
Also, kickboxing is not a weak sport by any means. Kickboxing gives you the versatility to kick and punch, whereas boxing only allows you to punch. You don't see any successful MMA fighter just doing Boxing which testifies to the fact that it is a traditional classical sport, which, we have evolved from. Fun to watch in it's sport with rules, but not effective as it is non versatile
I'm not talking about Boxing as a proffessional sport. I'm talking about it in the unrestricted sense you senseless moron.
All MMA matches are 1 vs 1 you dumbass. How is that relevant to 1 vs 2/3/4/5?
You apparently have never seen boxing outside of the ring. And I'm talking about fights with Disciples of Boxing, Not some dumbfuck thug who likes to throw his muscles around.
I never said running away was stupid. I said it was cowardly, and getting knocked down is because of stupidity.
WTF I have NO clue what you just said. Seriously either you are smoking crack or are a high school freshmen who has high testosterone and thinks he knows it all idk. Boxing in the unrestricted sense is the same fucking shit as the professional sport except that the sport is that: PROFESSIONAL. JESUS CHRIST, YOU ARE ONE WEAK FUCK.
For instance, I could say the very same thing about Boxing... 1. You stand up and pray that you are going to knock out your opponent, but give no consideration to ground game whatsoever, whilst 2 BJJ address both the standup styles for which it was created and works especially well against one-sided styles such as Boxing, and it also addresses the ground factor which many styles such as boxing neglect. Does it sound right what I'm saying? I didn't think so. Im comparing real world 2 real world
and it's always better to run away from multiple opponents than to be an idiot and try and face them all boxing or jiu-jitsu. Plain and simple any style you tale on is weak against multiple opponents... And you still haven't told me how one boxer is going to defeat multiple opponents at one time... The point is to NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN?? WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK BUT WHAT IF YOU DO?? DOES THAT EVER CROSS YOU REPTILLIAN MIND DOUCHE??
It is not stupid to run away from MULTIPLE OPPONENTS ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD WAY TO SURVIVE. Boxing is not flexible and any fighter can testify to that u need to watch MMA and find that a boxing-only fighter really has no chance..This is why people die in fights because they're dumb like you and try and take on lots of people, who God knows what kind of weapons they might be carrying.
"people die in fights because they're dumb like you and try and take on lots of people"
They die because they are HEROIC you undignified weeny. What would you say to a US MARINE? A mother trying to protect her children? Someone who is sacrificing themselves for the sake of many?
I never said Kickboxing is a weak sport. I said it was a STYLE that has weak balance.
I box, I kick, I grapple. I use knives, axes, hand guns, shotguns, rifles, explosives.
You're a constantly evolving argument, it's hard to get my point across to you when you are always changing what you say. You make a point, then take what I say out of context and add to your shitty argument.
How can you compare people who go out into the battlefield or defend their children with what we were talking about earlier.. You put a moral threshold on your weak argument to make it seem like you are taking a high ground we never debated about.
u- "It is not stupid to run away from MULTIPLE OPPONENTS ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD WAY TO SURVIVE."
The point in staying put to fight multiple opponents, ISN'T ABOUT SELF-PRESERVATION.
u-"Boxing is not flexible. You need to watch MMA and find that a boxing-only fighter really has no chance."
ALL MMA MATCHES HAVE BEEN 1 VS 1. How can you or anyone else judge boxing to not be flexible if you or they haven't seen it be used in a different light? IGNORANT!
The first few sentences you said added absolutely nothing to your lame argument idk why you included them.. And even if boxing was in some way flexible as to be able to adapt to OTHER ARTS what gives you the idea that if it can't win in 1vs1 again, what makes you think its gonna win against 2,3,4 people? You're so unenlightened its unreal.
not that all boxers are great fighters but .. ive found against a boxer i just take a high stance cover my head with elbows forward then when they try to though a power punch like a hook or a big right i drop my hips and do a single or better a double leg take down and hold them in a half gaurd and get the sub or just pound them out ... but ive been fighting for 20 years that may not work for everyone
this film is just when You do bouncer work and You do not let in some thug and he start his freaking " you are dead", "he will come for you", "you lost your job" etc and put up his hands.. rest You know.
must be explosive and very well trained to do that technique .. is very usefull in street fight because most of us, not well trained figthers take that stance ... but a boxer .. I have some reasonable dubt about them .. because they take most of the time in order to hit and they are used to duck hedbutts as well punches ... thanx for sharing ... and leave that to the PRO´S =)
Sorry re-read my comment, and it´s not what I meant, no disrespect to any technique, I meant ON MY SIDE ... I LEAVE THAT TO THE PRO´s (like you)and prefer, to step a side.
Regarding "street stance" u know is kind of a boxing stance only with the guard little more far from the body as a boxer would do... thanx for sharing again and 4 being so openminded to reply...
Most street fights never end up like this though. It isn't ever 1 vs 1.
Boxing is best against multiple enemies.
Grappling is best against a single enemy. Kick Boxing is good for counter attacks, ambushes, other Kick Boxers and most grapplers (depending on how close they are to you.) Boxing usually dominates everything if you use good methods of defense (subvert and converting)
yes its great against multiple enemies who will gang up on you at the same time and beat you to the ground to the ground... then I guess boxing is worthless..Think before you speak.
Again, you can think about this when you're getting rolled... At least while you're on the ground you can bring one down with you and break his arm or leg or even neck. Once you hit the ground in boxing, you're in trouble.
it didn't look like he was trying to catch a jab, but rather, to do what the video says, deal with a boxers stance (ie. before any punches are thrown.)
either way, boxers dont stick out their elbows far out like hancho in the vid. elbows stay in to protect the body. and if he attempt to grab the arm while the eblows are tucked in, he'd fall into a bad ass hook
very good example. i know you can only make it so realistic before it just becomes a proper attack. so dont mind the disgruntaled boxing fans who can't imagine that anouther art form has ways of neutralizing a boxer throwing a typical boxing straight punch.
ahhh! nice bit of brizillian juijitsu you performed there if i'm not mistakened. yes it is a form of jiujitsu but im almost sure it's brazillian. correct me if i'm wrong. But also one more thing. that is not a boxing stance. boxing stances utilize the elbow being close to your body. maybe no more than 8-9 inches but in the vide you can clearly see it was atlesat 1 foot to 1 and a half foot. nice move anyways. just wanted to share my 2 cents.
first of all the boxer is going to keep his distance untill he is ready to throw....If he is a good boxer....his jab will meet your chin faster than you can grab his hands and while you are trying to grab his hands his power hand is coming through to your chin....KO...And if your not knocked out by the 1-2 then i know for sure that your not going to have enough stability to even try to grab his hands much less anything else. Then he will just continue to give hooks and straight shots..Knock out
While I agree with this, you have to remember that in aikido the goal is not to fight if we don't have to...If someone (a boxer) in a realistic situation keeps their distance in order to set up an attack with quick jabs, there's nothing that says you have to stay and fight them...I don't see someone attacking a person on the street keeping their distance and setting up like a trained/sanctioned boxer would in the ring, unless maybe they are being attacked etc...
Yep distance is a big factor using this technique. Boxers will circle and react before your body could grab that arm.
My way of destroying a boxer is to kick the legs out from under him, then set up for the grab once he is preoccupied with my leg kicks. Closing the distance is made eaiser when they are worried about something else. Opening up with just a grab is kind of hard to execute to someone that is alert and ready to box.
too much hard work. if its the legs you want to take out then you have to shoot low and grab. better if someone is in boxing stance for this. but dont be phazed.. this move shown is easy to execute... just takes practice obviously. you will find that in time its just a natural reaction move. (i think this is krav maga)
im sorry it is my mistake... you are right it is a form of jujitsu.... krav maga has a similar style, veryy close quarter combat but is a lot more agressive (once arm is locked a knee or elbow or both would normally follow)... i agree if its in street enviroment then the odds are in your favour. although the boxing stlye of striking is also very effective when incorporated.
this is street self defence not a title fight with queenbury rules. so stop inventing theoretical situations when you have a visual aid and example to view... for free
u need years and years of practise for such a lock... not sure if it is even safe to post it on YT according to fact that some ppl might try it based on just seeing this :D
Anyone who has any fighting experience at all knows how to judge correct range, and when it is time to commit. This will only work on someone who thinks they are a boxer, but has never trained a lick of it.
P14 he's squarer than sponge Bob and he's stepping into the guy. P20 once again he steps right into the guy like an S and M freak. P26 there's not a boxer alive who puts all of his weight on his rear foot. P33 Got Damn it he did it again. Has this guy ever boxed before? I haven't seen flatter feet on a duck. P54 I give up.
Then again this vid might be for self defense, i got confused by the Aikido in mma response. however, a boxer should be able to throw a jab or step out of reach before the other guy could grab him
well first of all, whos going to take a boxing stance unless they intend to box. And what boxer is going to try to box an someone in MMA? You might say "well kick boxers sometimes do mma." but, boxing in its true form is purely fist fighting with rules that dont allow arm twists and such, this is the same for kick boxing. So why would any one with an ounce of intelligence try to use an orthodox boxing stance when those arm twists are so lethal against you?
The point is to catch the man before he has a chance to get set up. Not when he is already set up. Use some common sense people.
MrAaronch 8 months ago
is that san soo?
darthshadowxxx 10 months ago
best part about this video wasnt the sweet rapid moves, but the painful grunts the dummy attacker was making. i laughed so hard.
Zdawg2324 1 year ago
this won't work on every boxer.
PaiprBoi 1 year ago
this video assumes quite a few things, a person with boxing experience would never
have the kind of stance leaning forward arms out and not in a tight guard, it also assumes
the boxer wouldn't have already thrown a punch (or multiple punches). that may work with
someone acting tough that can't fight but I doubt you'll get the jump on a real boxer coming straight in, you'll get eaten alive, I've taken judo and boxed some. you won't come in straight on a boxer, not like that,
TRontheLegacy 1 year ago
@TRontheLegacy thank u finally some one with some fighting sense. this is pretty much a joke boxing is way too effective just to be taken out in one sweep lol no fucking way
Kamahl777666 10 months ago
this video assumes quite a few things, a person with boxing experience would never
have the kind of stance leaning forward arms out and not in a tight guard, it also assumes
the boxer wouldn't have already thrown a punch (or multiple punches). that may work with
someone acting tough that can't fight but I doubt you'll get the jump on a real boxer coming straight in, you'll get eaten alive, I've taken judo and boxed some. you won't come in straight on a boxer, not like that,
TRontheLegacy 1 year ago
Lets figure this out by typing skeptical remarks.
tdarnold 1 year ago
Very nice moves and it'd work on a lot of people but then again there are those that'd land a straight right on your cheek since you don't step out before after you get the grip on his hand, I'd say it'd be a perfect move with a step out though.
Anyhow, I'll subscribe, your videos seems good.
88Kamikaze69 1 year ago
@88Kamikaze69 Thanks for understanding the technique!
Piotrek830324 1 year ago
This is comedy gold! Yeah let met get in this half-ass stance and the walk forward and not throw a punch. Might work if the person is piss drunk. I guess that is what the guy was trying to show.
sdjfsdalhgas23423423 1 year ago
slower next time?
lilkidwidtalent74 1 year ago
you can tell the boxers arms are conpletely loose this guy was throwing him about like a ragdoll with no resistance but some of this does work on some VERY rare occurances
ImAKwlDudeLloolL 1 year ago
lol that does look pretty cool, but the whole point of the boxing stance is that they hit you before you can get close.... just saying
Neeks4215 1 year ago
yea just hope he dosnt aim for ur stomach with a straight quick power
mrKANYEwes 1 year ago
nice moves...boxing is cool i guess.... saw a 18 year old thts learning jeet kune do, beat the crap out of a 32 year old boxer who has been boxing since his early teens...
760cloud 1 year ago
@760cloud Thanks for Your comment!!
Piotrek830324 1 year ago
I love your videos.
Are you like, a security guard or secret service guy? Ha ha.
Thanks.
longboards4josh 1 year ago
You are very fast! And while I think these one steps are very over simplified and may not work against an experienced or educated fighter, you would probably lock up some schmo on the street.
wvdmc 1 year ago
i can work im not denying that but i thought boxers kept thier elbows tucked in
patrickwise06 1 year ago
best defense is not to be involved in a fight
blauerninja 1 year ago
should work if you re super cool and the boxer charges. But in general there are many escapes for the boxer and one who punches in good angles should get away and counter pretty fast. good technique anyway ( i train in boxing)
arikat1 1 year ago
1. Boxers aren't stupid. If they're in a stance, then chances are they're a boxer and they understand where striking and clinching distance is. No boxer would initiate at a distance where they could get hit or grabbed.
2. Boxers have good footwork. "Getting out of the way of the punches" by side stepping is pure retardation because boxers will side step and eat up whatever isn't covered. And if you did dodge a punch you'd probably only dodge a jab. They aren't dumb enough to do haymaker combos.
NinjaLikeTeaBagger 1 year ago
very good when someone drunk comes to get you.
petskup4 1 year ago
aikido??
xxCpxxDr0n3 1 year ago
That man would do nothing agains fast boxing hit
AndS1692 1 year ago
@AndS1692 that is why this technique is used against STANCE and NOT hit :)
Piotrek830324 1 year ago 6
@Piotrek830324
Ha, i see=)
But i dont think anybody will just stay in stance and do nothing
AndS1692 1 year ago
@AndS1692 You must react and think more flexible my Friend :) it can be used if he trys to push You or just put up his hand :)
Take Care
Piotrek830324 1 year ago 2
@Piotrek830324 you are right n.n
besides everyone in boxe stance will wait for a front attack, but in this technique you quickly got out of his punches' way and attacked from the side veeery quickly, so even if this "boxer" tried to hit you, if you do the technique correctly then he will just be hitting the air of course speed and technique are needed to do this O.O
lo i had never seen it, but i'll train it in my dojo now xD
thanks a lot for the video lad
hendrikmarine 1 year ago
@AndS1692 and thats why aikido would be an effective technique all you need to do is be faster than the boxer before he strikes.
kikitakahani 1 year ago
whoa, who taught Rick Astley self defense.
720Riot 1 year ago
boxers won't let their hands be taken from them. and they won't just stand, they will step in and give you a quick upper or body blow. this will work on those who think they can box.
guerillaphantom 1 year ago
grabbing is very unlikely boxers are trained to go in fast and come back fast. like evryone else is saying this would only work with an average person that doesnt know how to fight not a guy that really knows how to box depending on exp
HenryNguyen103 1 year ago
this is good against any drunk idiot but if it was someone who really knew how to box then u would get destroyed. i recommend shooting on a boxers front leg just bc u never know how good someone is. never underestimate anyone
WHITENUT45 1 year ago
really good video but if you gonna fight with real boxer you must get hit before you get in the stance to wear him down ...sorry for grammar mistakes i am from serbia...:D
KAIZER1987uf 1 year ago
good techniques, but his stance is toooo WRONG! the elbows are like chicken wings, (the stance is to couver the chin/head) he´s got his fists over the head, wrong footwork ... it would be harder if there´s a real boxer...but i don´t want to correct u´r vid...the techniques are very good :)
FTWDomDom 2 years ago
Thank You very much for Your comment!
Take Care
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
good technique for bouncers against drunk assholes i guess
hallmonitor98 2 years ago 5
Yes my Friend! Thanks for understanding!
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
@hallmonitor98
bouncers are douche bags who talk about ufc and street fights ALL THE TYME!!
they ganged up on my freind cause he was defending himself on a bouncer who hhit him for no reason, they had to get lyke 10 others on him!!
mrKANYEwes 1 year ago
that *could* work on an inexperienced fighter, but I wouldn't try it. Chances are if he's in a boxing stance, he already knows basic boxing and as soon as you step in for the grab he will knock your teeth out.
wolfmotheresque 2 years ago 21
@wolfmotheresque NO MOST FOLKS DONT KNOW BASIC ANYTHING THEY JUST BRAWL. BUT WHAT IS THE SOMEONE KNOWS A SYSTEM THAT DOMINATES BOXING THEN NO TEETH SHALL BE MISSING.
IM SICK OF FOLKS PLACING ALL THE COOKIES IN THE BOXERS JAR!
zellymusic 1 year ago
@wolfmotheresque was about to say the same thing
ManiaCop100 1 year ago
@wolfmotheresque not necessarily. these days, with the popularity of mma and all, EVERYBODY thinks they can fight. some guys can bluff very well with an adequate stance...seeing what he does with it is a totally different story. i'd be more afraid of the guy who acts completely calm in a fight and DOESN't put his arms up--can't read them at all.
and yea, i know im replyin to a comment that's 1yr old. just makin a point is all.
rursher 1 year ago
@wolfmotheresque I don't agree. Many people will adopt a 'boxing' stance because they have seen movies and had a number of fights in the street, even if they don't have any real training. But every technique has risks, this looks better than many I have seen.
kage110 8 months ago
@kage110 Yep i agree, also thrown your front leg towards a knee to step in while u throw a jab puts off most ppl leading to a balls kick which takes down everyone except very experienced mma fighters ive found.Tho u still have to protect your chin.Any experienced fighter will throw a punch while lifting his other hand to his chin.Most black boys do this and if u anticipate it this move will work exactly the same.
Thelondonbadger 3 months ago
@ rockos414 I agree that it is not likely that someone gives up their arm. However if we assume they are a panicked attacker, or if they are lets say drunk at a bar, this would be a good technique that if preformed quickly would be effective. Against you? Not so much.
patticusrocks 2 years ago
I have done it two time live at work at a club. one time it was while guy wanted to push me and second when he rise up his hands up in wide guard saying "what the f..k You want" :)
I go two time a week for private box lessons only teacher and me a I tell You real good boxer want give You a chance. quick strike and hand come back the same line in tide guard back. :)
Thanks for comment.
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
lol
resumerdesir 2 years ago
It's possible, but is it likely no. I practice BJJ and no one ever just lets you take their arm. I just don't see someone giving up their arm in a street fight.
rockos414 2 years ago 2
Agreed but I will tell you what does work. A judo hip toss done with the right technique. I do MMA grapling and even going full blast it still works on almost everyone i try it on despite how simple and common it is but it's all about the technique it really is.
xxzachlxx 2 years ago
jajaja LISTEN TO THIS GUY AND YOU ARE GONNA GET KO , you can pull that off on that weak skinny guy !!
SDRsTUBE 2 years ago
bullshit
stigander 2 years ago 2
Why don't try that on someone who can actually fight.
mariodelmindo 2 years ago
i had a security guard try that shit on me....i knocked his ass the fuck out...gud luck with this shit...i guess its for skinny weak ppl with no exp.....
dallashustla21 2 years ago
Shut the fuck up you lying sack of shit. You did nothing to nobody and you know it.
mikper7 2 years ago
Thats not a proper boxing stance at all. This is more the type of guy who's seen one or two boxing matches and thinks he can fight like that in a street fight.
diamondman420 2 years ago
This will work as well when he starts to punch. There is other similar tech. to this which also eliminate boxer punch. You can end by breaking bone and match is over to any boxer. All ppl who take Aikido, BJJ, JiuJitsu are aware of this.
TICZMELIFE 2 years ago
Thanks for understanding and for comment.
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
@TICZMELIFE So... dumbass. How are they "aware" of it?
You better start taking scientific approaches to things instead of automatically accepting your moronic ass hypothesis as truth. If you remain in your ignorance a situation like this may arise and you could get yourself hurt badly.
When he "starts" to punch? Tell me what boxer telegraphs a jab to the point where you have enough time to side step. One jab faint and hook you're out cold on the ground with your wallet stolen and face stomped.
NinjaLikeTeaBagger 1 year ago
"co ty kurwa chcesz?" lol , nice video..
gskowal 2 years ago
heh :)
Thanks
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
this will only work if he starts mouthing of and just have a boxing stance, not if he starts throwing punches.
connymat 2 years ago
Yes!!!!!!!
Thanks for comment and understanding of this technique.
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
yep, it waki gatame
easy to do and great result, if fine ^^
Thifner30 2 years ago
Yes Waki Gatame in police version :)
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
It's waki gatame in ju jutsu I think...
Basic technic, very efficience.
beat82 2 years ago
Yes Waki Gatame.
Take Care
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
what about his other hand
foamingeye2 2 years ago
hand after the technique is done or before ?
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Also, kickboxing is not a weak sport by any means. Kickboxing gives you the versatility to kick and punch, whereas boxing only allows you to punch. You don't see any successful MMA fighter just doing Boxing which testifies to the fact that it is a traditional classical sport, which, we have evolved from. Fun to watch in it's sport with rules, but not effective as it is non versatile
Calsonic66 2 years ago
I'm not talking about Boxing as a proffessional sport. I'm talking about it in the unrestricted sense you senseless moron.
All MMA matches are 1 vs 1 you dumbass. How is that relevant to 1 vs 2/3/4/5?
You apparently have never seen boxing outside of the ring. And I'm talking about fights with Disciples of Boxing, Not some dumbfuck thug who likes to throw his muscles around.
I never said running away was stupid. I said it was cowardly, and getting knocked down is because of stupidity.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
WTF I have NO clue what you just said. Seriously either you are smoking crack or are a high school freshmen who has high testosterone and thinks he knows it all idk. Boxing in the unrestricted sense is the same fucking shit as the professional sport except that the sport is that: PROFESSIONAL. JESUS CHRIST, YOU ARE ONE WEAK FUCK.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
For instance, I could say the very same thing about Boxing... 1. You stand up and pray that you are going to knock out your opponent, but give no consideration to ground game whatsoever, whilst 2 BJJ address both the standup styles for which it was created and works especially well against one-sided styles such as Boxing, and it also addresses the ground factor which many styles such as boxing neglect. Does it sound right what I'm saying? I didn't think so. Im comparing real world 2 real world
Calsonic66 2 years ago
I think you need to shut up and think about how stupid you sound.
1. Standing on one leg doesn't give you good balance while someone is punching or pushing.
2. what ground game is there for a boxer? Didn't you know that you are most defenseless when you are getting back up?
You are using at least 2 limbs(legs) and probably one arm to stand back up.
3. You haven't told me how grappling is any better than boxing vs multiple opponents. THE POINT IS TO NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN DUMBASS!
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
I'm not defending kickboxing douche
and it's always better to run away from multiple opponents than to be an idiot and try and face them all boxing or jiu-jitsu. Plain and simple any style you tale on is weak against multiple opponents... And you still haven't told me how one boxer is going to defeat multiple opponents at one time... The point is to NOT GET KNOCKED DOWN?? WELL NO SHIT SHERLOCK BUT WHAT IF YOU DO?? DOES THAT EVER CROSS YOU REPTILLIAN MIND DOUCHE??
Calsonic66 2 years ago
listen you defecated fetus. I gave the reasons why Boxing is better than the other two.
Faster strikes, better balance, flexibility.
Instead of rationalizing all this in your small undeveloped brain, GO OUTSIDE OF YOUR CAVE AND EXPERIMENT!
The point isn't to run away or to get knocked down. IT'S HOW TO SUCCESSFULLY FIGHT MULTIPLE OPPONENTS INSTEAD OF BEING COWARDLY OR STUPID!
The original point of my post, was to point out which style had the greatest chance of success against many foes.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
It is not stupid to run away from MULTIPLE OPPONENTS ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD WAY TO SURVIVE. Boxing is not flexible and any fighter can testify to that u need to watch MMA and find that a boxing-only fighter really has no chance..This is why people die in fights because they're dumb like you and try and take on lots of people, who God knows what kind of weapons they might be carrying.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
"people die in fights because they're dumb like you and try and take on lots of people"
They die because they are HEROIC you undignified weeny. What would you say to a US MARINE? A mother trying to protect her children? Someone who is sacrificing themselves for the sake of many?
I never said Kickboxing is a weak sport. I said it was a STYLE that has weak balance.
I box, I kick, I grapple. I use knives, axes, hand guns, shotguns, rifles, explosives.
I'm not a one trick pony.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
What are you smoking???
You're a constantly evolving argument, it's hard to get my point across to you when you are always changing what you say. You make a point, then take what I say out of context and add to your shitty argument.
How can you compare people who go out into the battlefield or defend their children with what we were talking about earlier.. You put a moral threshold on your weak argument to make it seem like you are taking a high ground we never debated about.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
Ok hypocrite, I'll stay on topic and then some.
u- "It is not stupid to run away from MULTIPLE OPPONENTS ITS ACTUALLY A GOOD WAY TO SURVIVE."
The point in staying put to fight multiple opponents, ISN'T ABOUT SELF-PRESERVATION.
u-"Boxing is not flexible. You need to watch MMA and find that a boxing-only fighter really has no chance."
ALL MMA MATCHES HAVE BEEN 1 VS 1. How can you or anyone else judge boxing to not be flexible if you or they haven't seen it be used in a different light? IGNORANT!
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
The first few sentences you said added absolutely nothing to your lame argument idk why you included them.. And even if boxing was in some way flexible as to be able to adapt to OTHER ARTS what gives you the idea that if it can't win in 1vs1 again, what makes you think its gonna win against 2,3,4 people? You're so unenlightened its unreal.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
You haven't seen 300?
The setting at which they fought, allowed them to funnel their enemy. THE ENEMIES COULDN'T MOVE THROUGH EACH OTHER EITHER.
FFS! try to understand this ONE CONCEPT!
4 guys trying to take you out? really dude, they would trip over one another unless they had a COHERENT STRATEGY.
Boxing can be used for capable of quick and balanced strikes. Furthermore, you can punch faster and in greater amounts than with kicks.
I think your light bulb needs replacing.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
@HerrQuixota Agree 100%, if you go to the ground in a street fight, you're loosing!
elwaponino 1 year ago
not that all boxers are great fighters but .. ive found against a boxer i just take a high stance cover my head with elbows forward then when they try to though a power punch like a hook or a big right i drop my hips and do a single or better a double leg take down and hold them in a half gaurd and get the sub or just pound them out ... but ive been fighting for 20 years that may not work for everyone
SanSuMartialArts 2 years ago
Boxers need to keep their feet.
Grapplers need to keep their head.
If either one doesn't keep what they are suppose to, they will undoubtedly lose.
Boxing against Grapplers requires a mind set on balance and power. (fortitude)
Grappling against Boxers requires a mind set on flexibility and speed. (agility)
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
ok... boxers need to keep their head AND their feet
Grapplers need to just keep their head.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
this film is just when You do bouncer work and You do not let in some thug and he start his freaking " you are dead", "he will come for you", "you lost your job" etc and put up his hands.. rest You know.
Anyway Thanks for Comment!!
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Good luck doing that to a real boxer. A quick right hook to the temple would end your technique within .0001 seconds.
safrenn 2 years ago 4
must be explosive and very well trained to do that technique .. is very usefull in street fight because most of us, not well trained figthers take that stance ... but a boxer .. I have some reasonable dubt about them .. because they take most of the time in order to hit and they are used to duck hedbutts as well punches ... thanx for sharing ... and leave that to the PRO´S =)
yayogde74 2 years ago
it was "somebody in boxing stance" not technical stance but like You wrote "Street Stance"
PRO`s ??
Thanks for Comment
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Sorry re-read my comment, and it´s not what I meant, no disrespect to any technique, I meant ON MY SIDE ... I LEAVE THAT TO THE PRO´s (like you)and prefer, to step a side.
Regarding "street stance" u know is kind of a boxing stance only with the guard little more far from the body as a boxer would do... thanx for sharing again and 4 being so openminded to reply...
yayogde74 2 years ago
heh
You are the Boss!
Thanks again!
Take Care
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
A good boxer knows how to deal with a grappler.
In fact, a good boxer isn't just a boxer. :)
Most street fights never end up like this though. It isn't ever 1 vs 1.
Boxing is best against multiple enemies.
Grappling is best against a single enemy. Kick Boxing is good for counter attacks, ambushes, other Kick Boxers and most grapplers (depending on how close they are to you.) Boxing usually dominates everything if you use good methods of defense (subvert and converting)
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
yes its great against multiple enemies who will gang up on you at the same time and beat you to the ground to the ground... then I guess boxing is worthless..Think before you speak.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
Boxing is the only style that gives you flexibility, balance, and speed against multiple targets.
Using kicks will make it easy for someone to knock you over. There is an inherent balance problem with all kickboxing styles.
Wrestling/Jiu Justu, the ground grappling styles, only leave you with enough strength and flexibility for one opponent.
Akido/Chin Na, the dignified grappling styles, lack flexibility and rely on the opponents to trip up on one another.
HerrQuixota 2 years ago
Again, you can think about this when you're getting rolled... At least while you're on the ground you can bring one down with you and break his arm or leg or even neck. Once you hit the ground in boxing, you're in trouble.
Calsonic66 2 years ago
boxers effective move is his jab. he wont leave his arm there not for a split second...
achaz 2 years ago
it didn't look like he was trying to catch a jab, but rather, to do what the video says, deal with a boxers stance (ie. before any punches are thrown.)
seadawg93 2 years ago
either way, boxers dont stick out their elbows far out like hancho in the vid. elbows stay in to protect the body. and if he attempt to grab the arm while the eblows are tucked in, he'd fall into a bad ass hook
achaz 2 years ago
sounds like a good point to me, Ive never tried grabbing a boxers arm, so I'll take your word for it.
I have seen plenty of people in street fights stand like this though.
seadawg93 2 years ago
ya dont get me wrong the technique is awesome its just it wouldnt work A boxer but it looks effective on the average joes, just of matter of speed
achaz 2 years ago
You have good eye! "deal with a boxers stance (ie. before any punches are thrown.) "
and his (attackers) posture is just like on street. wide hancho elbows :)
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
would be better to see what you do in slow mo also..cant really obsorbe the whole thing that easy..nice and effective move!
agonise 2 years ago
Thanks for Your comment!!
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
these videos dont account for real situations
im sure if this was applied it might work, but they can always spin out or fight back.
pyrolover 2 years ago
every answer have an answer
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
according to the video, if you break your friend's arm, you shouldnt stop :p
OriginalDarkAardvark 2 years ago
yes :) alwasys wait until Your "blow" finish :P
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Yes, never stop. Finish Your Film. :)
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Any reason the guy being countered can't punch him in the nuts?
JPearson1987 2 years ago 2
pain
juancarlosbr 2 years ago
he can´t, believe me, he´s got pain ;D
krstfh 2 years ago
ofcorse it can happen..
but there is:
pain
he is stretched in two different directions
I go with him on my side and not in front of him
give commend to take his right arm in front of him and high
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
you know that technique works on any stance
weather its boxing judo or crap magoo
in fact it has nothing to do with stance, all your doing is grabbing an arm weather its boxing or on top of your head it works the same
NakhitX 2 years ago
bravo!! You are one of these that understand meaning of this technique.
Take Care
crap magoo (krav maga?:)
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
yes crap magoo = krav maga lol its personal
NakhitX 2 years ago
shinya aoki breaks keiths arm using a move like this
search it
xoenhit 2 years ago
I know. it was said as one of first comments here :)
and some in middle too
Thanks for comment.
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
KURVAAAAA
shmocko22 2 years ago
MAN HANDLER SUPREME
billygundum 2 years ago
btw u spelled eliminate wrong on the title.
zzzzzzzzzz098 2 years ago
btw you spelled you wrong just there. lol only joking pal nice comeback i had to laugh.
oB4IL3Yo 2 years ago
very good example. i know you can only make it so realistic before it just becomes a proper attack. so dont mind the disgruntaled boxing fans who can't imagine that anouther art form has ways of neutralizing a boxer throwing a typical boxing straight punch.
good technique...well done
flipedside 2 years ago
Nice comment!
Not many ppl understand this technique!
what a pity!! :)
Take Care
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
ahhh! nice bit of brizillian juijitsu you performed there if i'm not mistakened. yes it is a form of jiujitsu but im almost sure it's brazillian. correct me if i'm wrong. But also one more thing. that is not a boxing stance. boxing stances utilize the elbow being close to your body. maybe no more than 8-9 inches but in the vide you can clearly see it was atlesat 1 foot to 1 and a half foot. nice move anyways. just wanted to share my 2 cents.
zzzzzzzzzz098 2 years ago
BJJ is quite young MA. this techniques is Waki Gatame, earlier used in Judo (traditional) but not now because is too dangerous.
btw u spelled Brazilian wrong in first sentence.
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Practicing self defense? In the WORK PLACE?!
How unethical.
ZahinDenatrose 2 years ago 2
This has been flagged as spam show
nice! thanks for the post
rkmn88 2 years ago
Thank You for Your comment!
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
first of all the boxer is going to keep his distance untill he is ready to throw....If he is a good boxer....his jab will meet your chin faster than you can grab his hands and while you are trying to grab his hands his power hand is coming through to your chin....KO...And if your not knocked out by the 1-2 then i know for sure that your not going to have enough stability to even try to grab his hands much less anything else. Then he will just continue to give hooks and straight shots..Knock out
1975chevysub 2 years ago 8
i'm with you. and he misspelled eliminate . lol
gtizzy777 2 years ago 3
i agree with you
DaBozzG23 2 years ago 3
im with you too bro! Its not like a boxer just going to stand there... they have one good-ass reaction
ilikeyoutub07 2 years ago 3
why does there ass action intrest you?
flipedside 2 years ago
stupid?
ilikeyoutub07 2 years ago
100% right man...this steven segal fancy moves can´t beat a good´ol knuckle sandwich hahaha!
astardelatorre 2 years ago 5
While I agree with this, you have to remember that in aikido the goal is not to fight if we don't have to...If someone (a boxer) in a realistic situation keeps their distance in order to set up an attack with quick jabs, there's nothing that says you have to stay and fight them...I don't see someone attacking a person on the street keeping their distance and setting up like a trained/sanctioned boxer would in the ring, unless maybe they are being attacked etc...
mikekalash 2 years ago 2
Yep distance is a big factor using this technique. Boxers will circle and react before your body could grab that arm.
My way of destroying a boxer is to kick the legs out from under him, then set up for the grab once he is preoccupied with my leg kicks. Closing the distance is made eaiser when they are worried about something else. Opening up with just a grab is kind of hard to execute to someone that is alert and ready to box.
MooneShadow 2 years ago 2
Take out the boxers legs.. use ya front kicks to keep him away till he attacks, then take him strait down as he moves in.. EASier said than done tho
SudoJudo1 2 years ago
too much hard work. if its the legs you want to take out then you have to shoot low and grab. better if someone is in boxing stance for this. but dont be phazed.. this move shown is easy to execute... just takes practice obviously. you will find that in time its just a natural reaction move. (i think this is krav maga)
flipedside 2 years ago
This is Japanese jujitsu reworked for bouncers an Cops... A JUDO/jujitsu guy will usually always beat a boxer..
SudoJudo1 2 years ago
im sorry it is my mistake... you are right it is a form of jujitsu.... krav maga has a similar style, veryy close quarter combat but is a lot more agressive (once arm is locked a knee or elbow or both would normally follow)... i agree if its in street enviroment then the odds are in your favour. although the boxing stlye of striking is also very effective when incorporated.
flipedside 2 years ago
I train Judo and Boxing and I gotta say that they go well hand in hand with each other.
CalBro 2 years ago
this is street self defence not a title fight with queenbury rules. so stop inventing theoretical situations when you have a visual aid and example to view... for free
flipedside 2 years ago
great move if a guy lets you do it!
graciecleveland 2 years ago 2
u need years and years of practise for such a lock... not sure if it is even safe to post it on YT according to fact that some ppl might try it based on just seeing this :D
Ziziky 2 years ago 2
any good boxer wont be standing in front of you
madnotesmusic 2 years ago
we doing this in grandmas house?
Alex280 2 years ago 2
can you guys do me a favor and do this video again, but this time with slow motion please. thank you!(ASAP)
JEBSDUDES 2 years ago
it will be hard now for me. Many ppl ask for it. wait little more please!
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
Anyone who has any fighting experience at all knows how to judge correct range, and when it is time to commit. This will only work on someone who thinks they are a boxer, but has never trained a lick of it.
whoady4shoady 2 years ago
P14 he's squarer than sponge Bob and he's stepping into the guy. P20 once again he steps right into the guy like an S and M freak. P26 there's not a boxer alive who puts all of his weight on his rear foot. P33 Got Damn it he did it again. Has this guy ever boxed before? I haven't seen flatter feet on a duck. P54 I give up.
ChaosIadore 2 years ago
This guy isn't even in a boxing stance....
lol...
JayDomination 2 years ago
Yeah that's pretty sad display of a boxer right there.
ChaosIadore 2 years ago
the boxer never punched. a dummy in any stance is still a dummy.
bookguy12000 2 years ago
Then again this vid might be for self defense, i got confused by the Aikido in mma response. however, a boxer should be able to throw a jab or step out of reach before the other guy could grab him
cha0ticpanda 2 years ago
very nice comment!
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
well first of all, whos going to take a boxing stance unless they intend to box. And what boxer is going to try to box an someone in MMA? You might say "well kick boxers sometimes do mma." but, boxing in its true form is purely fist fighting with rules that dont allow arm twists and such, this is the same for kick boxing. So why would any one with an ounce of intelligence try to use an orthodox boxing stance when those arm twists are so lethal against you?
cha0ticpanda 2 years ago
Oooh OK, this is where they got it from. Well 3 guys have this vid to thank for getting there asses handed to them by me.
ChaosIadore 2 years ago
you are the master..
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
lmfao i'm fast enough to just give you a left and you would be out
JayDomination 2 years ago
fast like superman?? :D
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
lol no, but fast enough that if you tryed to catch my hand it would just go numb.
JayDomination 2 years ago
do you know what is takedown?
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
is that a gun on the table? :P
forzhe 2 years ago
Yes! good eye! 5/5 Stars for You
Piotrek830324 2 years ago
cheers 5/5 for you
forzhe 2 years ago
Good god you are fast!!Did you ever have to do that to someone???
mwillblade 2 years ago