It's interesting to hear Beck playing a Les Paul here on "Shapes...". The LP has good sustain, but I prefer the richer harmonic content in a single-coil guitar, e.g.. Strat or Tele, on this particular song. The edgy twang of a Telecaster sounds really cool at places in this song. JMHO
All 3 guitarists were great/innovative in their own way, but Jeff came along when the boys wanted to breakout from a purely blues band and do their own distinctive stuff (like this song); and I think Jeff was the best one for this.
each was great, and each had a certain purpose. beck was definatley the most rocking stuff. when page got there and beck left, page was left with the ashes of a once great band.
For everyone arguing about who was best or who was first to do this or that, I'll bet most of you were not even born when this music happened. I was part of it-my generation-and to us, they were all good. We didn't argue about the differences, we were just glad that so much good music was happening!
So, just quit the fighting about it, go out and get this good music and ENJOY!!!
The Yardbirds with original members Chris Dreja & Jim McCarty will tour US in 2010; May 21 Robert Parilla PAC Montgomery College Rockville MD; May 22 Chesapeake Blues Festival Annapolis MD; May 23 Tangiers Akron OH; May 25 Sellersville Theatre Sellersville PA; May 26 BB Kings New York NY; May 27 YMCA Boulton Center Bayshore NY; May 28 Showcase Live Foxbourgh MA; May 30 Memorial Day Weekend Festival Virginia Beach VA.
you just got yo hear the beatles playing live at the star club in hamburg before the mania, also check their performance at the nme in sixty four, especially ringo and paul in long tall sally. then you can talk your bullshit
When the Johnny Burnette trio do this the guitar is going to the G on the 2 E strings. On this they're going to the G chord! I love the Yardbirds and Jeff Beck but it sounds wrong.
Love this!!! The beatles may have been the "masters " of studio recordings, mainly thanks to George Martin...but the Beatles couldn't touch the Yardbirds when it came to "live" performances. Its only my opinion of course. But, check out some of the 1966 Beatles live stuff, compare it with this ....and judge for yourself. I did = )
You shouldn't compare a pop group (albeit a brilliant one, capable of making rock records) with a band like this, who favoured guitar showmanship and rhythm over melody. Yardbirds are one of my favourite bands but shouldn't be compared with the Beatles.
@flimbambo - I was a Beatles fan before I became a Yardbird fan. Why not compare? Yardbirds were also concidered a "pop group". But this pop group could translate its "studio" recordings very well into their live performances, being able to expand there numbers into 7 minute + Rave - up style. Since the Yardbirds were mostly a "touring" group. But not so the Beatles, I take nothing away from the Beatles.....but this Beatles fan always will say....the Beatles were not that great live.
The Yardbirds got the 'pop' tag after 'For Your Love'- for me, the first psychadelic hit. A lot of good rock music is curiously given this 'pop' tag, but few could disagree that the Yardbirds were a rock band. The Beatles are often judged unfairly on their playing precisely because of this constant comparison with rock bands. Maybe if Harrison had put a twenty minute solo in the middle of 'She Loves You' he would have become as good as Clapton or Beck, but the song would have sounded crap.
@flimbambo - So then. ur saying the beatles were a 1 dimensional group who only played pop and not rock? When I listen to my fav Beatles album Revover I hear rock being played eg taxman, she said she said, tomorrow Never knows. So it is entirely FAIR to comapre beatles with other so-called rock band, but the beatles live basically stuck with their easier pop song format. And why not? When a lot of their late 65 66 music was studio magic, like backwards guitar solos,etc. hard to do this live.
@Yardbird68 I`m as huge of a Beatles/Harrison fan as there is and also loved the Yardbirds, especially with Beck. While the Beatles did an absolute variety of things and did them with a creative flair not to be soon, if ever, replicated, it is this fan`s opinion that no British Invasion band played the blues like the Yardbirds, with a respectable 2nd place to the Animals. Beck`s solo in Shapes still gives me goosebumps after thousands of listens...
@flimbambo - Were the Yardbirds only a 1 dimensional group and played only rock? No, they played rock, blues, and pop. For Your love is pop to me, Mr Your a Better Man is more pschedelic. But it doesn't matter. Comparing these 2 groups live is totally fair, because neither group was just one genre group, both played pop and rock. BTW, even if George were to play a 7 minute solo ( no Yardbirds solo was that long) he never could be as good as Jeff Beck, then or now, if George was still around.
@musikfanat whos arguing .its a friendly debate. Do you read any mean spirited comments?? I don't think so. Btw, I was born in 62 I grew up with this music also. Maybe you didn't have friendly discussions about Stones v Beatles...Stones v the Who etc, but me and my friends did. I do not even think we considered or cared what was goin on music wise...we just like it. We didn't have hindsight or farsight to see what music is to become. Relax, I already HAVE and enjoy this music. so lighten up
@Yardbird68 And your bird can sing from Revolver. Awesome riff, better than any of becks. Beck was a fillin for clapton when clapton left and WAS the least talented of the yardbirds lead guitarists. The Beatles were much better live and untouchable in the studio. George harrison was a much better guitarist than beck.
@BL80488 Hahahaha!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! Beck was just a fill in for EC?? hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable!!! Harrison better guitarist than Beck...hahahahaha......this has got be one of the funniest post i have read on yt.......ever thought about being a comedien???? Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@timjmoran JB wasnt more experimental. Any Compared to the other two Guitar Greats who Played in the yardbirds Ha was the least talented of the three, (Clapton, Beck, Page). As for the beatles being rough live???? Watch the Concert for Shell, Blackpool Night Out, NME 1964, 1965, Shea, Shindig, Ed sullivan, Live in Munich.....
@timjmoran ,,agreed,,,its all a matter of opinion,,,I personally think J.B. , E.C. , & J. P. rate no. 1 ,,I think G.H. wanted to be so much he became,he may be second best but he tried harder.My opinion...as far as live how can you tell whos really better,,,live recording from 60s most times are poor.
Hey bud, help yourself and don't ever say something so stupid to someone who really knows the guitar and guitarists. Jeff Beck being the least talented? You need to go stick your head in the sand.
@asmorgan88 Since I do not have the 2nd edition of Russo's book, I was wondering if it explains: Since Page had no rights, then how could he have the power to place an injunction on the 71 LP Live Yardbirds and stop it from being sold.
Not only this but recently when the CD version came out..the same thing?
Honestly...it honestly says that Page "has an extreme intimidation factor" when in regards to lawsuits.
I'm not asking you to believe me, I wouldn't be gaining anything by making it up...but those exact words are from the book.
Apparently, a lot has been added to the book...because there are a lot of people on here ranting about all these "expired" theories that have been put to rest by Russo.
@asmorgan88 - it really says that? Wow. I am going to buy the revised edition cause now I am curious. The only thing that is puzzling to me is this, if Chris could threaten Page with a lawsuit over the name Yardbirds as Shade says that made Page change the name, showing Chris had some kinda rights over Page ( so it seems ) then wouldn't Chris also have a "say" in regards to LP CD etc having the Yardbirds name??? Strange......
It also says that "Knowing That I'm Losing You" was never copywritten by Relf, & that Page had lifted the song, naming it "Tangerine", thus giving Page sole ownership of the track, & writing credits (even though they aren't his lyrics)...and it was thought that including the "Knowing That I'm Losing You" number would draw Page to file a lawsuit.
It also says that the whole thing about not using the name "The Yardbirds" anymore was to ensure that the name didn't travel on to a new band after the contractual obligations to the Scandinavian tour were met...
So, I guess it was filed to make sure that the band was indeed billed as "The Yardbirds", and that when the tour was over, that the name would be done...meaning, the eventual Led Zeppelin was to cease using the name after the tour was over.
@asmorgan88 - interesting stuff, thanks!! Yup, the Yardbirds are such an awesome group in all aspects of rock history, its why their my all-time fav. The only thing that has me scratching my head still is, if the name The Yardbirds was to done with after the Scand... tour anyway, why was their a need for Chris to threaten Grant & Page with a lawsuit? Whatever the case may be, I am glad Page didn't get to use the Yardbirds name! Thanks again!
Yeah - I think it was just that, to ensure that Jimmy wouldn't use the name following the tour...because...you know, he has a reputation (I guess) for "stealing" (for a lack of better words) others' ideas, songs, etc. or whatever. Perhaps they did, as legend has it, use the name one or two times in England after the Scandinavian tour, thus prompting Dreja to take a legal stand against it.
I've only been listening to them since late 2008, & I'm obsessed...
@asmorgan88 - I've been obsessed with them since 1981, use to be a BIG Beatles fan until I discovered the Yardbirds! No, "stealing" is the perfect name for it. And I think that makes sense, i,e; Page using or trying to use the name after the Scandinavian tour, so Chris made sure that Page kept to the agreement. BTW, you have seen or listen to all my rare live 68 Yardbirds ( and others ) that I have uploaded here?
I've known a handful of their songs for years. I bought the Rhino Records greatest hits tape '94...I was with my grandmother when I asked her if I could get it...she laughed & said : "Your grandfather played with them.".
Two different times my grandfather's band opened up for them.
He doesn't remember the '66 show at all, my grandmother does.
He remembers the '67 one quite clear : "I walked over to Page & said 'it was a privilege, thank you' & apparently he (Page) laughed & walked away!!!
@asmorgan88 Wow...thats awesome that your grandfather actually played at the same performance as the Yardbirds!! Hmmmm, I guess Page has always been a primadonna, what a wanker!
HAHAH - I know, I love that story! Apparently, according to my grandmother, it was a festival kind-of thing, & at the end of the day a core collection of the bands all got on stage & did an impromptu jam together. My grandfather doesn't recall...but his memory is shot.
And, even in the case of being a big Beatles fan, I agree...the media hyped them to bits. But they were HUGE in tiny Liverpool...and the media somehow arranged it to become a worldwide phenomenon.
@asmorgan88 - even the Yardbirds were huge ( a big local fan base ) at clubs such as Crawdaddy and Rkki Tiks etc, of course I'm talking about their Beck era ( I guess Clapton too) , with the Yardbirds pattened Rave-Ups, you know the long jams. Like Page said one time, "with the Yardbirds their was lot of room for doing expanded solos". But as already mention, the Beatles were media darlings.
It seems far fetched, but what people have got to realize is, that back then these legendary bands & musicians weren't legends yet. The Yardbirds, for example, are more popular today than back then...they were playing small places, in front of small crowds, with small time bands most of the time.
According to my grandmother his band also opened for every rock group of the 60's except The Beatles, Stones, Who, Beach Boys, Hendrix, Cream, & any other really big name.
@asmorgan88 So true, all groups had their faithful following of fans, but the hype and the adulations just didn't exist as it does today, since we the benifit of look back in retrospect. Except maybe in the case of the Beatles, which I have always felt ( only my opinion, no one elses ) was greatly induced by the media at the time. I would and could imagine if the Yardbirds had gotten such coverage and hype at the time how would their careers would have went.
That's not to say that they weren't good, or didn't draw money or crowds on their own behalf, but the media certainly brought it to the point that it got to. They were the first real "band", & they were all slightly ahead of their time looking too...so there was certainly a large aura about them that drew people in, aside from excellent music.
The Yardbirds promoted the hell out of themselves, toured relentlessly, made great records...and still weren't famous.
@asmorgan88 I think your referring to the Yardbirds and not the Beatles, right? As being the first real band. Yes, all you need to do is look at this video. Jeff with his Gibson slung low, not the Beatles at the chest style, a animated lead singer playing to the crowd etc. I mean the Yardbirds had the "look and sound" of a rock/blues group. I mean listen to all the groups who played at this NME rather popish and rather low key, then Yardbirds w/Beck really socking it to them, love it.
Yeah - In 1963, The Beatles were like futuristic! That's why they became media darlings. The mop tops, the suits, their personalities, the songs...most, if not all, of that was really cutting edge for the time. The world hadn't seen anything like that yet...aside from Elvis, perhaps. But, The Beatles were the "first band"...and the media knew they were marketable & the public was interested.
And - the thing a lot of people don't get, is that Jeff Beck was the first to really employ that thick, heavy, psychedelic sound...not fucking Hendrix.
This band used a sitar before The Beatles did, were playing expanded solos before anyone else, were the first to have two lead guitarists, were the first to manipulate American blues into flat out hard rock & roll, the first band to use guitar effects...yet people constantly cite others as being the best, or the firsts.
Hey, good taste in music. I have some music info & videos you might be interested in. I tried sending it to you but you have "friend lock" on your account, so I have to send you a friend invitation & you click "accept" first.
@asmorgan88 Ok , Yes Beck did have a huge part of creating that original "Psychedelic Sound". But for you to even compare Beck to Hendrix in reference to creation of sound......SERIOUSLY put down that Bong, you've had enough!!!
When you're feeling more sober look up 'Beck talking about Hendrix' and let's see how Jeff feels about Jimi. But then you probably think that Jeff Beck invented the Guitar...
The Beatles felt threatened by The Beach Boys...but they were clearly the better band..and persevered & made many more better records.
What are you trying to say?
Hendrix himself claimed that it was Beck in "Heart Full of Soul" that inspired him to experiment with effects, feedback, & distortion...so...don't be an outright ignorant prick.
...and I'm pretty sure Beck invented the guitar too, fuckstick.
@asmorgan88 For everyone arguing about who was best or who was first to do this or that, I'll bet most of you were not even born when this music happened. I was part of it-my generation-and to us, they were all good. We didn't argue about the differences, we were just glad that so much good music was happening!
So, just quit the fighting about it, go out and get this good music and ENJOY!!!
@BurleyFuzz For everyone arguing about who was best or who was first to do this or that, I'll bet most of you were not even born when this music happened. I was part of it-my generation-and to us, they were all good. We didn't argue about the differences, we were just glad that so much good music was happening!
So, just quit the fighting about it, go out and get this good music and ENJOY!!!
I think that '68, or the Page era, is my favorite by far...and not so much for the 'Little Games' album, but for the live material.
Your collection is great, I've been visiting your page for months...also on YouTube are recordings from the Shrine Auditorium shows in '68, which blow me away.
The Beck era was undoubtedly the best, but something about Jimmy's playing of Jeff's songs really struck a note with me. He's also much easier to emulate by far, which also draws me in to some degree!!!
@asmorgan88 Kinda the same for me. I always prefered Beck's stint with the Yardbirds and it was Jeff's playing from the "Having a Rave- Up" where I cut my teeth learning to play guitar. I cannot read notes, just play by ear. But one day I found the bootleg of Anderson Theater, and man, that went straight to my head! Little Games didn't really represent the true Page era YB...thanks to Mickie Most, but their true form can be heard on their live performances.
Yeah, I have to agree on the Mickie Most bit for sure...some of those cuts on that album are bullshit. I like the psychedelia undertone to them, but some are just garbage...I mean, I still like it nonetheless...but.
I've found that playing by ear my playing has progressed drastically...any suggestions of yours' pertaining to the Anderson Theatre album? I play along with that & the 'Beat, Beat, Beat" shows daily.
It's a shame that a lot of the bootlegs have poor quality...
@asmorgan88 the problem with Most and Little Games, most of the song were done with session guys without the Yardbirds! And some songs were really unfinished takes. Sure I do not mind some cuts from Little Games, but had the Yardbirds done as proper "studio" album with cuts Like Avron Knows, Think About It, Dazed & Confused, Knowing I'm Losing You, etc. The Yardbirds could have done and capable of putting out a kick - ass album
Yeah - I read that John Paul Jones cut a few tracks to that album. Kinda weird.
And good Jesus, had they put out an album with those tunes on it, it would be considered one of the best albums of all time, & certainly one of the first "heavy" albums too.
I love the way Page plays Beck's songs live. The little bits that he adds to the riffs/licks really catapult the song...the best example, to me, is "You're A Better Man Than I / Heart Full of Soul" off the Anderson Theatre LP.
@asmorgan88 Yeah, the Shrines is great stuff, I have the box set and had been planning to put the LP here on YT, did you also see from the same guy the Yardbirds at Fillmore West? Its awesome too, I have been looking for this for years!
Too bad the Yardbirds didn't do as McCarty stated a couple of yrs ago, that the should have done a "Roger The Engineer #2" album when they had Jimmy, but as you know, theYardbirds where mostly a touring group.
A lot of the bootlegs of them up here in New England are really, truly poor.
I have a tape of some show in Cleveland, & the quality is horrendous. My wife's uncle has TWO vinyl copies of the Anderson Theatre concert (one from each release)...he's a DJ I believe, & a big rock & roll fan...but I would KILL to have those!!!
There seem to be a lot more Page-era bootlegs floating around than there are Beck ones...
And, any idea why there are so many myths & legends about this group?
@asmorgan88 Yeas it too bad about the bootlegs, but my mind set is, no matter how bad, if its a rare Yardbirds performance I still want to hear it, I can always pick up something from it. Guess I'm lucky, I have a dead mint original Live Yardbirds Featuring JP, also have the CD that came out before Page stuck his nose in it again.
@asmorgan88 Your right about there is more Page era live stuff. I think the main or part of it is the fight that is goin on between Charlie Records & Sergio
Gomensky about the copyrights during this Beck period. I wish there were more of it!!
@asmorgan88 I think most like it is because most history is according to Page. And you know what a liar.....I mean story teller Page can be. Yoy know, he never listen to Jake Homes, the bowing bit ( Eddie Phillips did it first ), the story about New Yardbirds etc etc. For me I think the only thing most people think of when they heat about the Yardbirds is the 3 guitarists they had.
Yeah, I can't believe Page sometimes...reading his outrageous claims...the guy is fucking crazy. I can't believe his Jake Holmes story! In Russo's book there's a nice excerpt about that!
Yeah, it's a shame there are not more Beck bootlegs. The way he would improv onstage is awesome...like this song here, he's playing some random licks around the middle that aren't on record...it's really great.
@asmorgan88 - and also, when Jim McCarty was interviewed about the new CD Cumilar Limits, he mention that the song "Knowing I'm Losing You" , same melody as "Tangerine" , was to be included. Yet when the CD actually came out, it was missing. Once again Page power to stop it??
Check out the Beatles in Sweden in 63 -- one of their best performances. The beatles were excellent live artists, though by 66 they were sick of touring and stopped performing well.
@alramone1 - Whos fault is it that the Beatles were sick of touring and is that an excuse to perform poorly? I know if i went to see a group who performed poorly because of lack of commitment i'd be one pissed bloke!! I also think there drug use at this time was most likely the main factor of being tired and sick of touring.
If you think that The Beatles stopped touring due to drug use, & performed poorly due to lack of commitment then you're more of an ignorant prick than me.
@ass-morgan88 Hahahahaha ....LMAO, you are so correct cuddles....I am sure you know a helluva lot about pricks, don't ya......you backsliding little fag boy....hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
@ass-morgan88 - Hahahaha........oh yes, I am sure you would just "love" to fuck me (sorry I do not swing that way cuddles) and every other man, that is, you sicko gerbil boy... LOL.........but hey.... please don't worry cuddles you dont have to keep it in the closet....besides, your mommy loves you still and I am sure your b-friend does too....hahahaha
@assmorgan88 LMAO...nice try cuddles, but your reasoning and so-called logic is as flawed as your guitar playing. To explain.."Being is not dependent on the actuallity of knowlege", i.e: I know about hockey, but never played..I know about God, but I am no god, I know awful lot about the Yardbirds; but am not one. You understand cuddles? So "it takes one to know one" is a false concept and idea. Better luck next time cuddles.....hahahaha
Where I'm from, people talk about the stuff they know....you seem to know an awful lot about faggots. And, if I am what you claim, you certainly like talking to them an awful lot too...and using words like "ass", and "cuddles"...I think that's pretty fucking homoerotic.
For calling someone else gay, you sure do use a lot of homoerotic terminology yourself. I've never had the words "ass" or "cuddles" directed at me in the amount in which you have...that says something about you.
@rugbyoholic sorry my mistake mate, was just musing over ur chat with asmorgan88, was going to add something to it then decided not to, but accidently posted. Sorry my bad. = )
@asmorgan88 Hmmm...intersting. I never realised terms such as "ass" (everybody has one you know?) cuddles were words associated with homoerotic. It definitely shows where "your" mind set is. Never talked to a gay person to my knowledge....so throw that out the window. I only talk this way to you cuddles ( read any of my coments to others ) because it was YOU who took a swipe at me.....cause my opinion doesn't match your
@asmorgan88 it is only you cuddles that I use these words......you can read any of my posts to find out. But remember it was you who first used words like "prick", fuckstick", "I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot", "don't be so hard when I cum". I believe if anybody is guilty of using homoertic terminology it is you. And let me quote you "Where I'm from, people talk about the stuff they know" ..........nuff said
It was : "Don't BITE so hard when I cum"...faggot.
I don't mind you calling me gay, it doesn't bother me...what does bother me is your knack to tell me how gay I am. It's pretty gay to know how fucking gay someone is. Faggot.
I was a big Yardbirds fan.I still think they were a great band. But they had their weaknesses. Check out on youtube a cover band from S.F. called The RaveUps.
They sound better than the original. But as i said to a friend"It's the difference between 20 year old London art students on 60's equipment and 40 years experienced professional musicians on modern equipment.
Thank you. I just found another shot of Sam with that bass and the Epi logo is plain as day. Ever wonder what happened to it? Certainly made pop history in it's day.
OSLECRABSinyerpubes.. SHUT yer MOUTH, MAN! This is PURE BLASphemy,
dawg!! Come awn..Beck "bad" ??!? No F*&%in' way !! He was great then.. better now, of course... but a TOtally ground-breaking player in the mid-to-late 60's..
and thru into the middle 70's.This IS a pretty rough performance, tho.Beck STILL great, of course..
That Gibson Bass that Sam's playing sure got passed around. Photos show Dreja and later page picking on it. It's missing a control knob.Check out Alan Clayson's biography on the band...Love 93 Ya'll
The bass is an Epiphone Rivoli... almost identical to a Gibson EB-2. I think the headstock shape, inlay and Epiphone logo are the only visible differences. Not missing a knob, that's the bass/baritone push switch.
There are many more technically advanced guitarists these days as they have the resources to teach them to play the instrument better. There was nothing like that in the '50s when most of these guitarists learnt to play. It's just easier for people to be better at guitar today, which makes pretty much all guitarists in the '60s look like they have fallen behind.
Am I seeing this wrong or are his humbuckers really screwed all the way down into the guitarbody? Like.. really far away from the strings, could anyone confirm this?
Everybody who posts about how "bad" they were or how poor their "technique" was misses the point - the Yardbirds and their compatriots were not just forging the path for every little combo you've ever been in - but they were testing, stretching and defining the technical boundaries that were unknown then, yet provide the foundation for every piece of equipment we use today, damn near 50 years later. If you've ever plugged a guitar into an amp in someones' garage, you owe these guys a debt. :-)
Shapes of Things was a good song and it's nice to see the boys doing what they could with it live. But otherwise they display too much feeling of "we look a bit like the Beatles" and too little concentration on playing like tight band should. Without the rent-a-screamers and that twit Murray the YBs might have done better.
Despite who their git player was they were the only band putting out songs like this and "Mister you're a Better Man Than I". Much more than JUST a guitar band.
Gone...thank God. He thought the YBs were too commercial. he went to wank with cream for a while, took loads of smack, made a bunch of cash producing complete shite (layla, lay down sally etc...) and finished up being, allegedly, one of the worlds best guitarists. Id kick his sorry ass on the guitar. I know a few Freddie King licks, thats all EC has been doing for years...outrageous.
But it's how you use what you've got isn't it really? I agree that quality control dipped in his career later on, after Derek and The Domino's, or perhaps Ocean Boulevard...he's a good guitarist man, you can't take that away surely? But Beck's period had THE TUNES, and Page's era had the RIFFS and lunacy. All great in my opinion (and a very under-rated drummer in this group too, still jamming today I see).
Well, I think he made his name very early on. When was Five Live Yardbirds, 65? He was more focused on blues lead guitar playing at a time when chuck berry riffs were popular, so i guess he stood out as a 'great guitarist'. Bluesbraker era, i think how he played was more groundbreaking than what he played, the overdriven, sustain sound. Cream had some wicked tunes but three virtuoso show offs, a la Albert Hall gig, to me is just a dismal incoherent racket. EC seems to really divide ppl eh?
Yeh great point actually, the Bluesbreakers LP with Clapton is genuinely exciting...and also good point about Cream...initially their sound was pop (much like how Hendrix was being marketed), but as the decade wore on bands got heavier. Cream spawned the virtuoso's bands, which I loved a while back, as I'm getting older I'm tending to steer away from. I like tight, concise rock 'n' roll these days. Regradless of any disagreements, nice to hear from a guy who knows and appreciates good r'n'b...
Ha, likewise bro! Yeah i think that tightness and understanding within a group creates great music...Nirvana, Beatles, CCR, not really virtuosos, but something clicked. I guess I went off EC when I saw a documentary about Hendrix. EC said he was really pissed off and felt very lonely when JH died, like him and Jimi were in the same place musically, light years from anyone else...i thought you prick, your not in the same league as JH, you dont even play the same fuckin game...!
Yeh...Hendrix had the visceral excitement that Cream lacked I think...very studied guys whereas The Experience were nutters...and didn't take themselves that seriously, a really organic group. I think Clappo found another 'partner' later with Duane Allman, but we all know what happened there...he's always, since the Cream days, had a massive issue about being the sole guitarist in a band. Watch Concert For Bangladesh, Harrison wiped the floor with him on lead guitar, but Eric was smashed.
I don't pretend to know jack about this really, but your take on Cream was always mine - incoherent racket for the most part. GREAT individuals, but no tightness. Kind of like Blind Faith, though not to that degree of chaos.
And while chaos is huge part of R&B and Rock and Roll, if it SOUNDS like chaos, it missed the point. As an example check out the same concert, NME 1965, with The animals doing "Talkin' Bout You" - super wild energy, but a totality that never loses its coherence.
Agreed. Criticise EC and it seems a whole army of people will threaten to kill you but IMHO he really wasnt anything special...Peter Greens playing, singing, and composing skills wipe the floor with EC, ditto Hendrix. Jimmy Page moved on from straight blues to embrace a huge range of style in a way EC never did. Pete Townshend was explosive and totally original, the list goes on...he played some nice stuff but hes not in the league of the true greats IHMO
The man on bass was Paul Samuell-Smith. A couple of days after this performance he left to become a fulltime producer. Then some cat named Jimmy Page took over on bass.
One of the truly exceptional bands from England,actually one of the best.Relf had tremendous charisma and all the band members were top notch performers.These concert footage time capsules are priceless.
I couldn't agree more with your comment. Keith Relf captivated his audience with his talent and his shining personality... He certainly was the shining star.... It is such a shame that his life was cut short... He would still be performing today and still captivate his audience...
From Rolling Stone Magazine 3/13/75: Jimmy Page on the Yardbirds, "I have really good memories. Apart from one tour which just about killed all of us, it was so intense --apart from that, musically it was a great group to play in. I've never regretted anything I've ever done. Any musician would have jumped at the chance to play in that band. It was particularly good when Jeff and I were both doing lead guitar. It really could have been built into something exceptional at that point..."
it is a gibson eb2. unfortunately you can't get them new anymore and if you want one you have t pay a lot! but a good alternative is the epiphone rivoli a lot cheaper and made in the same factory by the same people with the same parts, like the es-330 was next to the casino.
i had got the reword -free trip from 'jukebox magasine'(belgrade,yugoslavia), and i watched the 'stones' when they were supprise group and played 'jumping jack flash' for the first time! do you have that clip, from new musical express concert in 66?
if you've got it, free ride to jfk baby, since i'm yellow cab driver in ny!
btw. the 'yardbyrds' they played the song from antonioni's 'blowup'(67).
"i had got the reword -free trip from 'jukebox magasine'(belgrade,yugoslavia) , and i watched the 'stones' when they were supprise group and played 'jumping jack flash' for the first time!
do you have that clip, from new musical express concert in 66?"
Heh heh, "Dzuboks"... that was the '68 one, 12 may 1968, and I don't think it was filmed (just like both Beatles & Stones '66 NME performances weren't filmed, contractual bullshit - except for the award presentations)
yes you're right 67 i made mine first trip to trieste i was 18 then, that was 68, but i wasn't shure if 'jummping jack', was 68?anyways wach the 'stones' with brian on nme 64'it's alwright' they were killing, 65 terible, too stoned...
It's interesting to hear Beck playing a Les Paul here on "Shapes...". The LP has good sustain, but I prefer the richer harmonic content in a single-coil guitar, e.g.. Strat or Tele, on this particular song. The edgy twang of a Telecaster sounds really cool at places in this song. JMHO
videomaniac108 2 months ago
All 3 guitarists were great/innovative in their own way, but Jeff came along when the boys wanted to breakout from a purely blues band and do their own distinctive stuff (like this song); and I think Jeff was the best one for this.
MrSlitskirts 2 months ago
4:40 THATS the way to slide throw the stage to turn off whatever effect Beck was using, probably fuzz.
Mr27Mod 3 months ago
each was great, and each had a certain purpose. beck was definatley the most rocking stuff. when page got there and beck left, page was left with the ashes of a once great band.
landonfinn 3 months ago
@PopExpo I'm with you 100%!
paulrob55 8 months ago
Say what you may about clapton and page...... Jeff Beck was the best fit for the yardbirds.
PopExpo 1 year ago 8
@PopExpo The only reason he doesn't get as least as much acclaim as the other two is because he's less commercial.
mlrockrules 7 months ago
VOX AC100 full throttle !
thebigsuperbeatle 1 year ago 5
Where's the Who footage?
juicedupnsloppy 1 year ago
Of The Yardbirds Guitarists, YES. And I DO know the Guitarists and I DO KNOW THE GUITAR. HE CANT TOUCH CLAPTON OR PAGE
BL80488 1 year ago
Stones rock the Yardbirds
GreatDylan420 1 year ago
Love this video....I hope Jeff eventually saved up enough money to buy a longer cord for his fuzztone pedal....LOL!
98jvstratcat 1 year ago
paul's bass is tight
nazz1966 1 year ago
what's the name of the guitarist at 4:36?
Lakrits3 1 year ago
@Lakrits3 JEFF BECK!!
gio73vanna 1 year ago
@Lakrits3 REAlly?!?? Ya don't know ?? It's the inESTImable .. Jeff beck.. of course.
Odd how he turns off the Fuzztone b4 hitting that last final two chords in his solo.
Still.. pretty danged good!!
timjmoran 1 year ago
why oh why isn't their footage of the Who at this show - evidently they stole the show that night.
coltom 1 year ago
OH MY GOD.. can we just stop comparing everything to the Beatles?? seriously.. its the dumbest thing
WorshipMacca 1 year ago
What lineup was this?
RayManzarekGod 1 year ago
godddd keith could blow.
talktalk3 1 year ago
@talktalk3 Damn straight. He and Brian Jones were British rocks' best harmonica/blues harp players.
alonenjersey 1 year ago
For everyone arguing about who was best or who was first to do this or that, I'll bet most of you were not even born when this music happened. I was part of it-my generation-and to us, they were all good. We didn't argue about the differences, we were just glad that so much good music was happening!
So, just quit the fighting about it, go out and get this good music and ENJOY!!!
musikfanat 1 year ago
PS dig the 'Stroll on' version for 'Blow up'. Kick ass!
kingslndflyr 1 year ago
Stacked with talent-unreal.
snatchhog 1 year ago
Beck says that one of the advantages of joining the band was that he got a free suit.
What a wit !! love the way he smokes at 1:42 with that "One Way Out " riff
12347771 1 year ago
Possibly the best lead solo Jeff Beck has EVER done!= in his entire career!
32Iroomi321 1 year ago
The Yardbirds with original members Chris Dreja & Jim McCarty are rockin at The Boulton Center Bayshore Long Island NY on Thursday May 27, 2010.
suffolkrocknroller 1 year ago
The Yardbirds are playing the Boulton Center Bayshore NY on May 27. I saw them last year at Westbury and they were awesome.
suffolkrocknroller 1 year ago
The Yardbirds were such an awesome contrast to the other Brit bands of the day. Jeff Beck was and always will be the shit!!!!
schultz970 1 year ago
The Yardbirds with original members Chris Dreja & Jim McCarty will tour US in 2010; May 21 Robert Parilla PAC Montgomery College Rockville MD; May 22 Chesapeake Blues Festival Annapolis MD; May 23 Tangiers Akron OH; May 25 Sellersville Theatre Sellersville PA; May 26 BB Kings New York NY; May 27 YMCA Boulton Center Bayshore NY; May 28 Showcase Live Foxbourgh MA; May 30 Memorial Day Weekend Festival Virginia Beach VA.
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dezern8 2 years ago
you just got yo hear the beatles playing live at the star club in hamburg before the mania, also check their performance at the nme in sixty four, especially ringo and paul in long tall sally. then you can talk your bullshit
ringomez 2 years ago
When the Johnny Burnette trio do this the guitar is going to the G on the 2 E strings. On this they're going to the G chord! I love the Yardbirds and Jeff Beck but it sounds wrong.
NeilThompson30 2 years ago
Love this!!! The beatles may have been the "masters " of studio recordings, mainly thanks to George Martin...but the Beatles couldn't touch the Yardbirds when it came to "live" performances. Its only my opinion of course. But, check out some of the 1966 Beatles live stuff, compare it with this ....and judge for yourself. I did = )
Yardbird68 2 years ago 2
You shouldn't compare a pop group (albeit a brilliant one, capable of making rock records) with a band like this, who favoured guitar showmanship and rhythm over melody. Yardbirds are one of my favourite bands but shouldn't be compared with the Beatles.
flimbambo 2 years ago
@flimbambo - I was a Beatles fan before I became a Yardbird fan. Why not compare? Yardbirds were also concidered a "pop group". But this pop group could translate its "studio" recordings very well into their live performances, being able to expand there numbers into 7 minute + Rave - up style. Since the Yardbirds were mostly a "touring" group. But not so the Beatles, I take nothing away from the Beatles.....but this Beatles fan always will say....the Beatles were not that great live.
Yardbird68 2 years ago 3
The Yardbirds got the 'pop' tag after 'For Your Love'- for me, the first psychadelic hit. A lot of good rock music is curiously given this 'pop' tag, but few could disagree that the Yardbirds were a rock band. The Beatles are often judged unfairly on their playing precisely because of this constant comparison with rock bands. Maybe if Harrison had put a twenty minute solo in the middle of 'She Loves You' he would have become as good as Clapton or Beck, but the song would have sounded crap.
flimbambo 2 years ago
@flimbambo - So then. ur saying the beatles were a 1 dimensional group who only played pop and not rock? When I listen to my fav Beatles album Revover I hear rock being played eg taxman, she said she said, tomorrow Never knows. So it is entirely FAIR to comapre beatles with other so-called rock band, but the beatles live basically stuck with their easier pop song format. And why not? When a lot of their late 65 66 music was studio magic, like backwards guitar solos,etc. hard to do this live.
Yardbird68 2 years ago 50
@Yardbird68 I`m as huge of a Beatles/Harrison fan as there is and also loved the Yardbirds, especially with Beck. While the Beatles did an absolute variety of things and did them with a creative flair not to be soon, if ever, replicated, it is this fan`s opinion that no British Invasion band played the blues like the Yardbirds, with a respectable 2nd place to the Animals. Beck`s solo in Shapes still gives me goosebumps after thousands of listens...
pilesovinyl 1 year ago
@flimbambo - Were the Yardbirds only a 1 dimensional group and played only rock? No, they played rock, blues, and pop. For Your love is pop to me, Mr Your a Better Man is more pschedelic. But it doesn't matter. Comparing these 2 groups live is totally fair, because neither group was just one genre group, both played pop and rock. BTW, even if George were to play a 7 minute solo ( no Yardbirds solo was that long) he never could be as good as Jeff Beck, then or now, if George was still around.
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musikfanat 1 year ago
@musikfanat whos arguing .its a friendly debate. Do you read any mean spirited comments?? I don't think so. Btw, I was born in 62 I grew up with this music also. Maybe you didn't have friendly discussions about Stones v Beatles...Stones v the Who etc, but me and my friends did. I do not even think we considered or cared what was goin on music wise...we just like it. We didn't have hindsight or farsight to see what music is to become. Relax, I already HAVE and enjoy this music. so lighten up
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68 Well, I was born in '51 so i was playing at this time. By the way, i was supporting you. i saw how someone was coming up against you...
Some of these people get hostile.
musikfanat 1 year ago
@Yardbird68 And your bird can sing from Revolver. Awesome riff, better than any of becks. Beck was a fillin for clapton when clapton left and WAS the least talented of the yardbirds lead guitarists. The Beatles were much better live and untouchable in the studio. George harrison was a much better guitarist than beck.
BL80488 1 year ago
@BL80488 Hahahaha!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!!! Beck was just a fill in for EC?? hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Unbelievable!!! Harrison better guitarist than Beck...hahahahaha......this has got be one of the funniest post i have read on yt.......ever thought about being a comedien???? Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@BL80488 OH MAN.. where to start with a comment this...BONEheaded!!
1st.. it's just plain SILLY to compare Beck & Harrison... they are So UTTERly
different from each other..JB MUCH more experimental.. GH more supportive
of the tune, whilst playing BRILLiantly concise solos. To say JB was "the least
talented" of the YB's is just..well..STOOPid!! and WRONG. Beatles could be pretty
rough live- ever hear Live @ Hollywood Bowl? Course -it's a miracle they could
play at all-w/ all the screaming.
timjmoran 1 year ago
@timjmoran JB wasnt more experimental. Any Compared to the other two Guitar Greats who Played in the yardbirds Ha was the least talented of the three, (Clapton, Beck, Page). As for the beatles being rough live???? Watch the Concert for Shell, Blackpool Night Out, NME 1964, 1965, Shea, Shindig, Ed sullivan, Live in Munich.....
BL80488 1 year ago
@timjmoran ,,agreed,,,its all a matter of opinion,,,I personally think J.B. , E.C. , & J. P. rate no. 1 ,,I think G.H. wanted to be so much he became,he may be second best but he tried harder.My opinion...as far as live how can you tell whos really better,,,live recording from 60s most times are poor.
kidbrad 1 year ago
@BL80488
Hey bud, help yourself and don't ever say something so stupid to someone who really knows the guitar and guitarists. Jeff Beck being the least talented? You need to go stick your head in the sand.
psychedylan 1 year ago 3
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@psychedylan Of The Yardbirds Guitarists, YES. And I DO know the Guitarists and I DO KNOW THE GUITAR. HE CANT TOUCH CLAPTON OR PAGE
BL80488 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
POP GROUP ARE YA?
BET YOU'RE MAKING THE MONEY NOW!!!
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Since I do not have the 2nd edition of Russo's book, I was wondering if it explains: Since Page had no rights, then how could he have the power to place an injunction on the 71 LP Live Yardbirds and stop it from being sold.
Not only this but recently when the CD version came out..the same thing?
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
Ok, so I went & looked...
Honestly...it honestly says that Page "has an extreme intimidation factor" when in regards to lawsuits.
I'm not asking you to believe me, I wouldn't be gaining anything by making it up...but those exact words are from the book.
Apparently, a lot has been added to the book...because there are a lot of people on here ranting about all these "expired" theories that have been put to rest by Russo.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 - it really says that? Wow. I am going to buy the revised edition cause now I am curious. The only thing that is puzzling to me is this, if Chris could threaten Page with a lawsuit over the name Yardbirds as Shade says that made Page change the name, showing Chris had some kinda rights over Page ( so it seems ) then wouldn't Chris also have a "say" in regards to LP CD etc having the Yardbirds name??? Strange......
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
It also says that "Knowing That I'm Losing You" was never copywritten by Relf, & that Page had lifted the song, naming it "Tangerine", thus giving Page sole ownership of the track, & writing credits (even though they aren't his lyrics)...and it was thought that including the "Knowing That I'm Losing You" number would draw Page to file a lawsuit.
Cool stuff...this band is fascinating.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
It also says that the whole thing about not using the name "The Yardbirds" anymore was to ensure that the name didn't travel on to a new band after the contractual obligations to the Scandinavian tour were met...
So, I guess it was filed to make sure that the band was indeed billed as "The Yardbirds", and that when the tour was over, that the name would be done...meaning, the eventual Led Zeppelin was to cease using the name after the tour was over.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 - interesting stuff, thanks!! Yup, the Yardbirds are such an awesome group in all aspects of rock history, its why their my all-time fav. The only thing that has me scratching my head still is, if the name The Yardbirds was to done with after the Scand... tour anyway, why was their a need for Chris to threaten Grant & Page with a lawsuit? Whatever the case may be, I am glad Page didn't get to use the Yardbirds name! Thanks again!
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
Yeah - I think it was just that, to ensure that Jimmy wouldn't use the name following the tour...because...you know, he has a reputation (I guess) for "stealing" (for a lack of better words) others' ideas, songs, etc. or whatever. Perhaps they did, as legend has it, use the name one or two times in England after the Scandinavian tour, thus prompting Dreja to take a legal stand against it.
I've only been listening to them since late 2008, & I'm obsessed...
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 - I've been obsessed with them since 1981, use to be a BIG Beatles fan until I discovered the Yardbirds! No, "stealing" is the perfect name for it. And I think that makes sense, i,e; Page using or trying to use the name after the Scandinavian tour, so Chris made sure that Page kept to the agreement. BTW, you have seen or listen to all my rare live 68 Yardbirds ( and others ) that I have uploaded here?
Yardbird68 1 year ago
I've known a handful of their songs for years. I bought the Rhino Records greatest hits tape '94...I was with my grandmother when I asked her if I could get it...she laughed & said : "Your grandfather played with them.".
Two different times my grandfather's band opened up for them.
He doesn't remember the '66 show at all, my grandmother does.
He remembers the '67 one quite clear : "I walked over to Page & said 'it was a privilege, thank you' & apparently he (Page) laughed & walked away!!!
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Wow...thats awesome that your grandfather actually played at the same performance as the Yardbirds!! Hmmmm, I guess Page has always been a primadonna, what a wanker!
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
HAHAH - I know, I love that story! Apparently, according to my grandmother, it was a festival kind-of thing, & at the end of the day a core collection of the bands all got on stage & did an impromptu jam together. My grandfather doesn't recall...but his memory is shot.
And, even in the case of being a big Beatles fan, I agree...the media hyped them to bits. But they were HUGE in tiny Liverpool...and the media somehow arranged it to become a worldwide phenomenon.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 - even the Yardbirds were huge ( a big local fan base ) at clubs such as Crawdaddy and Rkki Tiks etc, of course I'm talking about their Beck era ( I guess Clapton too) , with the Yardbirds pattened Rave-Ups, you know the long jams. Like Page said one time, "with the Yardbirds their was lot of room for doing expanded solos". But as already mention, the Beatles were media darlings.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
It seems far fetched, but what people have got to realize is, that back then these legendary bands & musicians weren't legends yet. The Yardbirds, for example, are more popular today than back then...they were playing small places, in front of small crowds, with small time bands most of the time.
According to my grandmother his band also opened for every rock group of the 60's except The Beatles, Stones, Who, Beach Boys, Hendrix, Cream, & any other really big name.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 So true, all groups had their faithful following of fans, but the hype and the adulations just didn't exist as it does today, since we the benifit of look back in retrospect. Except maybe in the case of the Beatles, which I have always felt ( only my opinion, no one elses ) was greatly induced by the media at the time. I would and could imagine if the Yardbirds had gotten such coverage and hype at the time how would their careers would have went.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
That's not to say that they weren't good, or didn't draw money or crowds on their own behalf, but the media certainly brought it to the point that it got to. They were the first real "band", & they were all slightly ahead of their time looking too...so there was certainly a large aura about them that drew people in, aside from excellent music.
The Yardbirds promoted the hell out of themselves, toured relentlessly, made great records...and still weren't famous.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 I think your referring to the Yardbirds and not the Beatles, right? As being the first real band. Yes, all you need to do is look at this video. Jeff with his Gibson slung low, not the Beatles at the chest style, a animated lead singer playing to the crowd etc. I mean the Yardbirds had the "look and sound" of a rock/blues group. I mean listen to all the groups who played at this NME rather popish and rather low key, then Yardbirds w/Beck really socking it to them, love it.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
Yeah - In 1963, The Beatles were like futuristic! That's why they became media darlings. The mop tops, the suits, their personalities, the songs...most, if not all, of that was really cutting edge for the time. The world hadn't seen anything like that yet...aside from Elvis, perhaps. But, The Beatles were the "first band"...and the media knew they were marketable & the public was interested.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
And - the thing a lot of people don't get, is that Jeff Beck was the first to really employ that thick, heavy, psychedelic sound...not fucking Hendrix.
This band used a sitar before The Beatles did, were playing expanded solos before anyone else, were the first to have two lead guitarists, were the first to manipulate American blues into flat out hard rock & roll, the first band to use guitar effects...yet people constantly cite others as being the best, or the firsts.
asmorgan88 1 year ago 2
@asmorgan88
Hey, good taste in music. I have some music info & videos you might be interested in. I tried sending it to you but you have "friend lock" on your account, so I have to send you a friend invitation & you click "accept" first.
Smudgefizz 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Ok , Yes Beck did have a huge part of creating that original "Psychedelic Sound". But for you to even compare Beck to Hendrix in reference to creation of sound......SERIOUSLY put down that Bong, you've had enough!!!
When you're feeling more sober look up 'Beck talking about Hendrix' and let's see how Jeff feels about Jimi. But then you probably think that Jeff Beck invented the Guitar...
BurleyFuzz 1 year ago
@BurleyFuzz
Yeah - I wouldn't worry too much about it, buddy.
The Beatles felt threatened by The Beach Boys...but they were clearly the better band..and persevered & made many more better records.
What are you trying to say?
Hendrix himself claimed that it was Beck in "Heart Full of Soul" that inspired him to experiment with effects, feedback, & distortion...so...don't be an outright ignorant prick.
...and I'm pretty sure Beck invented the guitar too, fuckstick.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
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@asmorgan88 For everyone arguing about who was best or who was first to do this or that, I'll bet most of you were not even born when this music happened. I was part of it-my generation-and to us, they were all good. We didn't argue about the differences, we were just glad that so much good music was happening!
So, just quit the fighting about it, go out and get this good music and ENJOY!!!
musikfanat 1 year ago
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@BurleyFuzz For everyone arguing about who was best or who was first to do this or that, I'll bet most of you were not even born when this music happened. I was part of it-my generation-and to us, they were all good. We didn't argue about the differences, we were just glad that so much good music was happening!
So, just quit the fighting about it, go out and get this good music and ENJOY!!!
musikfanat 1 year ago
I think that '68, or the Page era, is my favorite by far...and not so much for the 'Little Games' album, but for the live material.
Your collection is great, I've been visiting your page for months...also on YouTube are recordings from the Shrine Auditorium shows in '68, which blow me away.
The Beck era was undoubtedly the best, but something about Jimmy's playing of Jeff's songs really struck a note with me. He's also much easier to emulate by far, which also draws me in to some degree!!!
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Kinda the same for me. I always prefered Beck's stint with the Yardbirds and it was Jeff's playing from the "Having a Rave- Up" where I cut my teeth learning to play guitar. I cannot read notes, just play by ear. But one day I found the bootleg of Anderson Theater, and man, that went straight to my head! Little Games didn't really represent the true Page era YB...thanks to Mickie Most, but their true form can be heard on their live performances.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
Yeah, I have to agree on the Mickie Most bit for sure...some of those cuts on that album are bullshit. I like the psychedelia undertone to them, but some are just garbage...I mean, I still like it nonetheless...but.
I've found that playing by ear my playing has progressed drastically...any suggestions of yours' pertaining to the Anderson Theatre album? I play along with that & the 'Beat, Beat, Beat" shows daily.
It's a shame that a lot of the bootlegs have poor quality...
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 the problem with Most and Little Games, most of the song were done with session guys without the Yardbirds! And some songs were really unfinished takes. Sure I do not mind some cuts from Little Games, but had the Yardbirds done as proper "studio" album with cuts Like Avron Knows, Think About It, Dazed & Confused, Knowing I'm Losing You, etc. The Yardbirds could have done and capable of putting out a kick - ass album
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
Yeah - I read that John Paul Jones cut a few tracks to that album. Kinda weird.
And good Jesus, had they put out an album with those tunes on it, it would be considered one of the best albums of all time, & certainly one of the first "heavy" albums too.
I love the way Page plays Beck's songs live. The little bits that he adds to the riffs/licks really catapult the song...the best example, to me, is "You're A Better Man Than I / Heart Full of Soul" off the Anderson Theatre LP.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Yeah, the Shrines is great stuff, I have the box set and had been planning to put the LP here on YT, did you also see from the same guy the Yardbirds at Fillmore West? Its awesome too, I have been looking for this for years!
Too bad the Yardbirds didn't do as McCarty stated a couple of yrs ago, that the should have done a "Roger The Engineer #2" album when they had Jimmy, but as you know, theYardbirds where mostly a touring group.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
A lot of the bootlegs of them up here in New England are really, truly poor.
I have a tape of some show in Cleveland, & the quality is horrendous. My wife's uncle has TWO vinyl copies of the Anderson Theatre concert (one from each release)...he's a DJ I believe, & a big rock & roll fan...but I would KILL to have those!!!
There seem to be a lot more Page-era bootlegs floating around than there are Beck ones...
And, any idea why there are so many myths & legends about this group?
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Yeas it too bad about the bootlegs, but my mind set is, no matter how bad, if its a rare Yardbirds performance I still want to hear it, I can always pick up something from it. Guess I'm lucky, I have a dead mint original Live Yardbirds Featuring JP, also have the CD that came out before Page stuck his nose in it again.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Your right about there is more Page era live stuff. I think the main or part of it is the fight that is goin on between Charlie Records & Sergio
Gomensky about the copyrights during this Beck period. I wish there were more of it!!
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 I think most like it is because most history is according to Page. And you know what a liar.....I mean story teller Page can be. Yoy know, he never listen to Jake Homes, the bowing bit ( Eddie Phillips did it first ), the story about New Yardbirds etc etc. For me I think the only thing most people think of when they heat about the Yardbirds is the 3 guitarists they had.
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68
Yeah, I can't believe Page sometimes...reading his outrageous claims...the guy is fucking crazy. I can't believe his Jake Holmes story! In Russo's book there's a nice excerpt about that!
Yeah, it's a shame there are not more Beck bootlegs. The way he would improv onstage is awesome...like this song here, he's playing some random licks around the middle that aren't on record...it's really great.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 - and also, when Jim McCarty was interviewed about the new CD Cumilar Limits, he mention that the song "Knowing I'm Losing You" , same melody as "Tangerine" , was to be included. Yet when the CD actually came out, it was missing. Once again Page power to stop it??
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@flimbambo
Two entirely different bands...
The Yardbirds had finesse & flaunted it...
That's something The Beatles never did...listen to their music, straight to the point, nothing too complex, and never focused around one instrument.
The Yardbirds' guitar work is the focus of the group...
THE BEATLES were the focus of their group...
asmorgan88 1 year ago
Check out the Beatles in Sweden in 63 -- one of their best performances. The beatles were excellent live artists, though by 66 they were sick of touring and stopped performing well.
alramone1 2 years ago
@alramone1 - Whos fault is it that the Beatles were sick of touring and is that an excuse to perform poorly? I know if i went to see a group who performed poorly because of lack of commitment i'd be one pissed bloke!! I also think there drug use at this time was most likely the main factor of being tired and sick of touring.
rugbyoholic 2 years ago 3
@rugbyoholic
If you think that The Beatles stopped touring due to drug use, & performed poorly due to lack of commitment then you're more of an ignorant prick than me.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@ass-morgan88 Hahahahaha ....LMAO, you are so correct cuddles....I am sure you know a helluva lot about pricks, don't ya......you backsliding little fag boy....hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@rugbyoholic
What's with all the fag comments, buddy?
And, in the words of Mike Tyson : "I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot".
Fuck yourself, fuckstick.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@ass-morgan88 - Hahahaha........oh yes, I am sure you would just "love" to fuck me (sorry I do not swing that way cuddles) and every other man, that is, you sicko gerbil boy... LOL.........but hey.... please don't worry cuddles you dont have to keep it in the closet....besides, your mommy loves you still and I am sure your b-friend does too....hahahaha
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@rugbyoholic
Don't you remember the saying : "Takes one to know one" ?!
You certainly seem to know an awful lot about faggots...
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@assmorgan88 LMAO...nice try cuddles, but your reasoning and so-called logic is as flawed as your guitar playing. To explain.."Being is not dependent on the actuallity of knowlege", i.e: I know about hockey, but never played..I know about God, but I am no god, I know awful lot about the Yardbirds; but am not one. You understand cuddles? So "it takes one to know one" is a false concept and idea. Better luck next time cuddles.....hahahaha
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@rugbyoholic
You're probably the funniest person on YouTube...
Next time, don't be so hard when I cum.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
@rugbyoholic
Where I'm from, people talk about the stuff they know....you seem to know an awful lot about faggots. And, if I am what you claim, you certainly like talking to them an awful lot too...and using words like "ass", and "cuddles"...I think that's pretty fucking homoerotic.
For calling someone else gay, you sure do use a lot of homoerotic terminology yourself. I've never had the words "ass" or "cuddles" directed at me in the amount in which you have...that says something about you.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
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Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68 - why did you copy my message for??
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@rugbyoholic sorry my mistake mate, was just musing over ur chat with asmorgan88, was going to add something to it then decided not to, but accidently posted. Sorry my bad. = )
Yardbird68 1 year ago
@Yardbird68 ok.not a problem. enjoy
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 Hmmm...intersting. I never realised terms such as "ass" (everybody has one you know?) cuddles were words associated with homoerotic. It definitely shows where "your" mind set is. Never talked to a gay person to my knowledge....so throw that out the window. I only talk this way to you cuddles ( read any of my coments to others ) because it was YOU who took a swipe at me.....cause my opinion doesn't match your
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@asmorgan88 it is only you cuddles that I use these words......you can read any of my posts to find out. But remember it was you who first used words like "prick", fuckstick", "I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot", "don't be so hard when I cum". I believe if anybody is guilty of using homoertic terminology it is you. And let me quote you "Where I'm from, people talk about the stuff they know" ..........nuff said
rugbyoholic 1 year ago
@rugbyoholic
It was : "Don't BITE so hard when I cum"...faggot.
I don't mind you calling me gay, it doesn't bother me...what does bother me is your knack to tell me how gay I am. It's pretty gay to know how fucking gay someone is. Faggot.
asmorgan88 1 year ago
I almost forgot search "RaveUps" not Rave-ups
totally different band..
snifferenator 2 years ago
I was a big Yardbirds fan.I still think they were a great band. But they had their weaknesses. Check out on youtube a cover band from S.F. called The RaveUps.
They sound better than the original. But as i said to a friend"It's the difference between 20 year old London art students on 60's equipment and 40 years experienced professional musicians on modern equipment.
martbook 2 years ago
I totally agree, The Raveups capture the feel and sound of the Yardbirds very well, I have been a Yardbirds fan since 65'.
snifferenator 2 years ago
Their weaknesses make them, and any band. Relf was considered a weedy singer (he was asthmatic) and yet his harp playing was sublime.
flimbambo 2 years ago
:42 Becks arm raises ,oh hooo . freekin great !
oh man ....."this is to Linda in Rectom "?
DrHogfan 2 years ago
no .. Jeff Beck
lany33 2 years ago
holy shinto is that eric clapton?????
caznable2k 2 years ago
Blow Up..... Michelangelo Antonioni...
trabongo 2 years ago 2
at the marquee - but neither of these songs
totovillefranche 2 years ago
There were nights when this band could turn buttermilk into battery acid.
alonenjersey 2 years ago
Great clip, but the camera man seems to have forgotten to include Chris Dreja in any of the shots!
witchman67 2 years ago
video won't work
halloweenfiend666 2 years ago
Thank you. I just found another shot of Sam with that bass and the Epi logo is plain as day. Ever wonder what happened to it? Certainly made pop history in it's day.
12347771 2 years ago
OSLECRABSinyerpubes.. SHUT yer MOUTH, MAN! This is PURE BLASphemy,
dawg!! Come awn..Beck "bad" ??!? No F*&%in' way !! He was great then.. better now, of course... but a TOtally ground-breaking player in the mid-to-late 60's..
and thru into the middle 70's.This IS a pretty rough performance, tho.Beck STILL great, of course..
timjmoran 2 years ago
That Gibson Bass that Sam's playing sure got passed around. Photos show Dreja and later page picking on it. It's missing a control knob.Check out Alan Clayson's biography on the band...Love 93 Ya'll
12347771 2 years ago
The bass is an Epiphone Rivoli... almost identical to a Gibson EB-2. I think the headstock shape, inlay and Epiphone logo are the only visible differences. Not missing a knob, that's the bass/baritone push switch.
tomkatf 2 years ago
yea, the yardbirds bass players...most of them, played the epi bass...
often seen with the big E on the pick guard..
anyway....great fan of the y-birds..
pioneers!!
jonrickly 2 years ago
There are many more technically advanced guitarists these days as they have the resources to teach them to play the instrument better. There was nothing like that in the '50s when most of these guitarists learnt to play. It's just easier for people to be better at guitar today, which makes pretty much all guitarists in the '60s look like they have fallen behind.
Blompcube 2 years ago
Awesome performance.
Voxac100b 2 years ago
Am I seeing this wrong or are his humbuckers really screwed all the way down into the guitarbody? Like.. really far away from the strings, could anyone confirm this?
NFNitro 2 years ago
Everybody who posts about how "bad" they were or how poor their "technique" was misses the point - the Yardbirds and their compatriots were not just forging the path for every little combo you've ever been in - but they were testing, stretching and defining the technical boundaries that were unknown then, yet provide the foundation for every piece of equipment we use today, damn near 50 years later. If you've ever plugged a guitar into an amp in someones' garage, you owe these guys a debt. :-)
jahnbon 2 years ago 4
barely a hint here that jeff would go on to
such greatness he did.
very cool early look-see
krang07 2 years ago
Shapes of Things was a good song and it's nice to see the boys doing what they could with it live. But otherwise they display too much feeling of "we look a bit like the Beatles" and too little concentration on playing like tight band should. Without the rent-a-screamers and that twit Murray the YBs might have done better.
cuddlyable3 2 years ago
this is somekind of heavy metal!
valehathar 2 years ago
The most underated of all the mid-60's bands to come from England.
alonenjersey 2 years ago
Despite who their git player was they were the only band putting out songs like this and "Mister you're a Better Man Than I". Much more than JUST a guitar band.
homonculus9 2 years ago 3
I feel bad for the bass player's fretting hand. Ouch!!!
halloweenfiend666 3 years ago
thank you nyrainbow for posting this gem, thanks a lot
mickyhollie 3 years ago
where's Eric?
stubbyguy 3 years ago
jaming with The Cream.
unclesamfatg 3 years ago
Gone...thank God. He thought the YBs were too commercial. he went to wank with cream for a while, took loads of smack, made a bunch of cash producing complete shite (layla, lay down sally etc...) and finished up being, allegedly, one of the worlds best guitarists. Id kick his sorry ass on the guitar. I know a few Freddie King licks, thats all EC has been doing for years...outrageous.
neilus 3 years ago
But it's how you use what you've got isn't it really? I agree that quality control dipped in his career later on, after Derek and The Domino's, or perhaps Ocean Boulevard...he's a good guitarist man, you can't take that away surely? But Beck's period had THE TUNES, and Page's era had the RIFFS and lunacy. All great in my opinion (and a very under-rated drummer in this group too, still jamming today I see).
burnsybaby1987 3 years ago
Well, I think he made his name very early on. When was Five Live Yardbirds, 65? He was more focused on blues lead guitar playing at a time when chuck berry riffs were popular, so i guess he stood out as a 'great guitarist'. Bluesbraker era, i think how he played was more groundbreaking than what he played, the overdriven, sustain sound. Cream had some wicked tunes but three virtuoso show offs, a la Albert Hall gig, to me is just a dismal incoherent racket. EC seems to really divide ppl eh?
neilus 3 years ago
Yeh great point actually, the Bluesbreakers LP with Clapton is genuinely exciting...and also good point about Cream...initially their sound was pop (much like how Hendrix was being marketed), but as the decade wore on bands got heavier. Cream spawned the virtuoso's bands, which I loved a while back, as I'm getting older I'm tending to steer away from. I like tight, concise rock 'n' roll these days. Regradless of any disagreements, nice to hear from a guy who knows and appreciates good r'n'b...
burnsybaby1987 3 years ago
Ha, likewise bro! Yeah i think that tightness and understanding within a group creates great music...Nirvana, Beatles, CCR, not really virtuosos, but something clicked. I guess I went off EC when I saw a documentary about Hendrix. EC said he was really pissed off and felt very lonely when JH died, like him and Jimi were in the same place musically, light years from anyone else...i thought you prick, your not in the same league as JH, you dont even play the same fuckin game...!
neilus 3 years ago
Yeh...Hendrix had the visceral excitement that Cream lacked I think...very studied guys whereas The Experience were nutters...and didn't take themselves that seriously, a really organic group. I think Clappo found another 'partner' later with Duane Allman, but we all know what happened there...he's always, since the Cream days, had a massive issue about being the sole guitarist in a band. Watch Concert For Bangladesh, Harrison wiped the floor with him on lead guitar, but Eric was smashed.
burnsybaby1987 3 years ago
this is fucking cool tho eh? Keith and jeff, where you at bro?
neilus 3 years ago
You have a link to the scene with clapton and Harrison?
Barnekkid 2 years ago
I don't pretend to know jack about this really, but your take on Cream was always mine - incoherent racket for the most part. GREAT individuals, but no tightness. Kind of like Blind Faith, though not to that degree of chaos.
And while chaos is huge part of R&B and Rock and Roll, if it SOUNDS like chaos, it missed the point. As an example check out the same concert, NME 1965, with The animals doing "Talkin' Bout You" - super wild energy, but a totality that never loses its coherence.
TravelerDiogenes 2 years ago
Agreed. Criticise EC and it seems a whole army of people will threaten to kill you but IMHO he really wasnt anything special...Peter Greens playing, singing, and composing skills wipe the floor with EC, ditto Hendrix. Jimmy Page moved on from straight blues to embrace a huge range of style in a way EC never did. Pete Townshend was explosive and totally original, the list goes on...he played some nice stuff but hes not in the league of the true greats IHMO
neilus 2 years ago
You can see Jeff Beck was one of the first guitar players to have his axe hung low.
jwwutube 3 years ago
The man on bass was Paul Samuell-Smith. A couple of days after this performance he left to become a fulltime producer. Then some cat named Jimmy Page took over on bass.
alonenjersey 3 years ago
Very tasteful arrangements on two great
songs by the most creative lineup of this
legendary Live performing band. Priceless clip on YouTube, Thank you!
movingon4ever 3 years ago 2
do they have a bass player?
funnycarrot 3 years ago
guy on the left is the bass player
aljanadcob 3 years ago
One of the truly exceptional bands from England,actually one of the best.Relf had tremendous charisma and all the band members were top notch performers.These concert footage time capsules are priceless.
ricogarion 3 years ago 4
I couldn't agree more with your comment. Keith Relf captivated his audience with his talent and his shining personality... He certainly was the shining star.... It is such a shame that his life was cut short... He would still be performing today and still captivate his audience...
jka4311 3 years ago 2
He's so hot in this video. I really miss Keith, I love him so.
wouldntyoulike2know 3 years ago
The tone on Beck's guitar is just phenomenal.
DogbiteOW 3 years ago 2
And Keith Relf comin' in, first blowin some 4th position high end harp, then dropping to 2nd position. I didn't know he had it in him. RIP Keith!
kpls72 3 years ago
From Rolling Stone Magazine 3/13/75: Jimmy Page on the Yardbirds, "I have really good memories. Apart from one tour which just about killed all of us, it was so intense --apart from that, musically it was a great group to play in. I've never regretted anything I've ever done. Any musician would have jumped at the chance to play in that band. It was particularly good when Jeff and I were both doing lead guitar. It really could have been built into something exceptional at that point..."
kpls72 3 years ago
This band was the most underated of all the mid-60's Britsh bands. As for the bass, it might be a epiphone model
alonenjersey 3 years ago
what brand of bass is that?
dragonforce129 3 years ago
it is a gibson eb2. unfortunately you can't get them new anymore and if you want one you have t pay a lot! but a good alternative is the epiphone rivoli a lot cheaper and made in the same factory by the same people with the same parts, like the es-330 was next to the casino.
lagman50 3 years ago
I wish I was Linda!
ryantunks 3 years ago
from mexico, the fan number one of this legendary british gruop of the sixties,my name is ricardo martinez bernal.
elperri69 3 years ago
sorry it was 67...the 'stones' didn't play for a while...
zonkeymd 3 years ago
amazing...wonderfull...cheers marina!
this means so much to me !
I WAS THERE!!!!'
i had got the reword -free trip from 'jukebox magasine'(belgrade,yugoslavia), and i watched the 'stones' when they were supprise group and played 'jumping jack flash' for the first time! do you have that clip, from new musical express concert in 66?
if you've got it, free ride to jfk baby, since i'm yellow cab driver in ny!
btw. the 'yardbyrds' they played the song from antonioni's 'blowup'(67).
zonkeymd 3 years ago
"i had got the reword -free trip from 'jukebox magasine'(belgrade,yugoslavia) , and i watched the 'stones' when they were supprise group and played 'jumping jack flash' for the first time!
do you have that clip, from new musical express concert in 66?"
Heh heh, "Dzuboks"... that was the '68 one, 12 may 1968, and I don't think it was filmed (just like both Beatles & Stones '66 NME performances weren't filmed, contractual bullshit - except for the award presentations)
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ISB 3 years ago
yes you're right 67 i made mine first trip to trieste i was 18 then, that was 68, but i wasn't shure if 'jummping jack', was 68?anyways wach the 'stones' with brian on nme 64'it's alwright' they were killing, 65 terible, too stoned...
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zonkeymd 3 years ago