Is it legal to play other peoples music, Mr DJ?

[stephen88hox]

is it legal or lawfull?answer that

im pretty sure its lawful.

[CRAZYcodfan6]

i have a question: if i buy music off i tunes is it alright to play on stage??

[neavesj]

same deal in australia for the club tax

[DJsonnyANTWERPEN]

in belgium price par year is from 250e for small dj's....and up !! but artists dont sea a cent from it..state take it !!

[hearv888]

if you do remixes you have to agree with artist first if you want to sell it..

[OUWATZAHLE08]

BUT i must cut yo of right there ellas im dont even want to tell people my playlist for 14 years of vocal trance djing i have told knowbody my playlist thats a matter of opinon even when i play at club dont tell

[Ghostlymuso]

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[iCamEntertainment]

yes master yoda.

[gretschplaya]

In the US, we may have to pay BMI or the ASCAP types of companies. That may be the PRS equivalent to the UK. Thanks for all of your helpful info!

[Theboxer500]

what if you download the music instead of buying it?

[sdeary1]

@Theboxer500 well if u downloaded it for free then its illegal from the get go...

[DJSFV12]

Post a tenminmix on youtube, post a tracklist, get blocked, account deleted, piece of cake.

[lxxxJOMAMAxxxl]

can you use a djs remix of a song in your own mix?

[BakaNation]

THANKS FOR THE INFO Hun!!! ;)

[twyla2362]

thought this was great......but surely too good to be true? As mentioned in many of the comments - it IS too good to be true in fact - sad fact.

As long as you play in a LICENSED VENUE as a dj using CD or vinyl, you are OK legally - but I wondered about mp3 and sure enough they are not covered - they are downloaded for private use only, so need the dj to buy a license for performing them in public, even if the venue has a normal license - crazy! Also applies to CDs you copy to mp3 yourself

[yoshimitsu0408]

Cheers, once again I learnt something today.

[djgiza86]

i wish this was the way in Aust. We have to pay a lic fee to play music to generate an income. so in other words if a cafe had a CD playing softly in the background for mood music. The cafe would have to pay the lic fee because the music is helping him make money. Saying that as a DJ our fees are higher, plus as a mobile DJ business if i was to make a second CD kit. i would have to pay a fee per CD per copy. So if you got 200 CD per kit.... It's absolute rubbish. plus we have to pay royalties

[raymondleeleggs]

he 2 people who disliked this video got sued for copyright infringement!

[SANDTANK26]

Your videos are far beyond prime. Stay up boss.

[JCUT01]

In Poland we must buy a licence to play music in clubs. One licence per year per one dj. Costs are around 2k pln so in quids its like 500. It means we can play illegal/legal music from any source we want but only if we buy`d that freakin licence. If not we must pay a penalty.

[DJMilky15]

@JCUT01 I think this is a good idea as you pay the right people I hope even if the music has been obtained illegally you are still paying the producers

[TheYengKitt]

Is it ok to play song that are downloaded from p2p websites? In a club

[Richardcld]

I have to disagree to a point on the PRS muscic Licence. Having been in the Bar trade for some time. If we had a group or band on that only played there music what they have Produced in there garage or bedrooms and all copy right belonged to them. you still have to pay the licence fee that is supposed to partly go to them but the for mentioned group actually gets no money from this. so where is the sense in that????

[TeknikZMaasterZ]

in my country in poland for play one song to people or something in radio ofcourse as you said in 4.30 we have to pay a "zaiks" in my counrty its "zaiks" :)

[MarkoweBity]

4;07

ok, allrigh, again, u know....

like singin :)

[mintcandy]

PRO are those who collects royalty.

Preforming Right Organization.

They collect royalty from any songs that been played through Broadcast or BIG BIG Venues. Small time clubs or bars can get away with it sometimes.

USA

[ChicagoMusicLibrary]

can i send you a song to play ? mesage me youre email address

[hyjinxsound]

is that a tonearm for the J on your hat? thats slick!

[YGRYC]

I`m sorry, but in spain it is illigaly to play some ones music in front of more then two people. You got to have a licens. new law))) sounds like crap, but its true. you got to pay 4 da radio is playing in your bar, heircut salon etc. Lots of Djs got problems with that.

[mistask8a]

man that sucks.

[artludacris]

@YGRYC yes you're right, here in Spain if you have a bar, heircut, etc. you have to pay to the SGAE if you're playing radio, and it's the same with the TV

[KARTOMAGAS]

How about having a screen behind you that writes songs title? :D

and what can you do to stop letting other people remix your mixes? doit like Tiesto :D ? ''Don'T Steel this'' :)

[jamesb8358]

i have been running my own disco for 17 years and you HAVE TO HOLD A PRS LICENCE to reproduce music in any public place, i hold a licence. this is the performing rights society, and is a punishable offence for any disco or public venue (ie village hall ect) to allow music to be played without a licence, so just be aware bedroom dj's you need a licence and public liability insurance to play in public.

[aaronSPSS]

i strongly disagree with the Phonographic Performance Ltd laws. its bassicly getting you to buy your music twice, three times, four times.. every year. and for the fact that they say its for playing to public . what happens if i am having a party in my house and i stick on the latest MOS album, technically im playing that to the public.. its the same thing as a mobile disco. it doesnt matter if its 10 or 10 hundred people its still the public no matter what. stupid licence and another con

[Sabie0]

In the Usa I heard that as long as you use effects in your mixed songs it is legal, you are not allowed to just the play the song, without any changes to it.

[catdog69kool]

For any australians here we have to get a licence from an organization called "ppca" and you haveto pay about 50 bucks depending on where your DJing, although any private party (being on private property and to a private crowd) there is no need to pay

[TheUtubesuxass]

wrong again dude,

The Performing Right Society (PRS) is writing to thousands of small businesses to make them aware of the consequences of, and possible legal action that could result from, breaking copyright law by playing music without a licence from PRS.

[Beanmaster73]

not in america- clubs have to pay ascap fee to play any music. land of the free my ass

[HitchHikersBlues]

@Beanmaster73 ...Yeah it's becoming more and more ridiculous around britain and europe too.

I know...soon enough we won't be able to do anything, without asking permission ??

[BakaNation]

@Beanmaster73 can you tell me more >.< i wana run a club here in the US in a few years but i wana learn more about the rights...since people like linkin park n such r all touchy about ppl stealing music i wondered if theyd b annoyed with djs and club owners =/

[DJsonnyANTWERPEN]

@Beanmaster73 belgium too.dj's must pay to use the music in clobs oor partys..shitt

[droz0099]

PPL - Public performance license

also

PPL - Phonographic performance license

[djhimmu]

@droz0099 Here in india these people have no idea about what is piracy and they charge a bomb for corporate event and dj gigs . if its oganised propely then things will be good, These so called PPL & IPRS are just fooling around and minting huge amount of money from people with out bothering whether its pirated or original source of music.

[demonicrubberducky]

No shirt, eh? Seshxy! XD

[DjBurgess08]

i got a vinyl from a shop the other day and on the vinyl is says ... "all rights of the producer and owner of the recorded work reserved unauthorized copying , hiring public performance and broadcasting of this record prohibited".. and just incase anyone wants to know the record label its "relentless vinyl"

[digerydooboi]

yeh it's PRS (Performing Rights Society) been learning bout it at college

[spectwon]

It's not only if you're making money. I ran a college radio station, and we had to pay the licensing fee (we were non-profit). The school had to pay licensing for all their events, even if they're not making any money.

[Froasier]

bottom line: if you obtained the music legally, then you are allowed to play it to any crowd as long as you aren't making money from it. if money is being made from it in any way, a license fee must be paid; this is usually taken care of by the venue (or radio station), but I'm not sure how it works for mobile DJs. there are exceptions, but that's the gist of it.

[landofnothing2009]

Music obtained legally cannot be played willy nilly to anyone, especially a public crowd, even if money was not being made. If you're playing it to your mates at a home party say, that's ok(?). The rules and regs are out there.

All rights of the producer and owner of the recorded work reserved, unauthorised copying, hiring, public performance and broadcasting of this record prohibited.

The above means what it says, even if it doesn't say it on the record purchased.

[ToxicMaggot]

i agree with you

[fkenjoi]

Okay, but this video doesn't address if you load your mixes online. Technically, people could just download the mix and listen to it and never have the incentive to go out and purchase the music since you made it available. Also, what if people pay you to listen to your mixes online?

[Froasier]

it has been my impression of the industry that you won't run into trouble by posting a mix online for free. people like to have original unmixed tracks so they will still often buy the music. if you charge people or have paid advertising with it then you will likely run into trouble.

[skatingsam]

o f*ck off wot hav u eva dun to help people nuffin didnt think so ellaskins is helping people who dont know anyfin about this stuff so go spam someone else gay boy

[tunes2unite]

Well said djfletcha. DJ Tutor always and forever.

[DjFletcha]

PracticeandEnjoy, your a sad lil bastard mate, Informing the wotever the fk ur informing, your in the same boat as the rest of us dj's pal.. so just take your head out your own arse.. and stop being a dick to people.. and Ellaskins, your a legend man .. thanks for your time that you took to make these videos.

[gjdjdisco]

sometimes it is illegal on ministry of sound: the mash up mix 2007 it says on the back: cannot be played in a public place or venue.

[cctv2wayradio]

it used to be called the PET licence "public entertainment licence" but theres many things changed and as many people using mp3 the didgital licence is out because of this

[practiceandenjoy]

i am absolutely disgusted as a professional dj playing for the length of time you have, you are giving the real honest djs a bad name. By law as a mobile dj you legally should have a PRS liscence, it's absolutly discraceful that you are not holding a prs liscence i bet your also the type of person who does not pay tax on your dj work . As a payer off of a prs liscence and have done for over 5 yrs i have no choice but to inform the prs about you and your work.

[longtone]

reply to practiseandenjoy:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but in the UK it's the venue who holds the PRS license.

check out: the mcps-prs-alliance website

But do you have a PRS licence as a DJ, or do you run a venue?

[practiceandenjoy]

I will correct you, yes you are right certain venues like night clubs , bars etc should have a prs liscence but, and i stress the but, most venues you will do as a mobile dj do not ie church halls , youth clubs , marquees and most wedding venues, I stress do not or will not hold a prs liscence.

[0dan7]

keeep hardcore alive dont fileshare

[discodjking]

You'd think if we are getting people to buy other peoples cds,then we are promoting the artist so shouldn't we get a cut too lol.

[ellaskins]

to discodjking, yes i know, we pay , we play , they listen, they buy, the producers get!!

[italfun]

yes, how about mixtape licencing or dj promo mixes?

[deejaybeef]

that duzent happen the person who buys it pays the shop the percentages are cut wen things are bought from the distributors so if the shop keeper buys 10 copies or 1 record from 1 artist if this costs 100£ thas wer the percentage comes from

[oddio95]

In the uk and europe there is the MCPS licensing fee

going on.They wiil and probably are now charging a fee for (you) the dj to play mp3's that you have already

payed for.The clubs now have to buy a license for dj's

playing who play mp3's,this sucks BIG TIME!!!!!

[groovindj]

oddio95, the digital DJ license is only for DJs who COPY songs from CDs they own to MP3. It covers the copying only. It does not apply to any DJ who legally downloads music, as it hasn't been copied from any other format.

[hypercatjohn]

playing mp3's is gay though, so its good that people who're gay, and play gay mp3's, get charged. just kiddin!

[BrandoB]

what if u 'steal' the music?

[cctv2wayradio]

in theroy if you need to pay a licence you should also keep recipts of the music you buy too as proof you paid rights to it, so if you steal it id'said no

[BrandoB]

I mean stealing.. as in 'downloading music'... cuz technically if ur not paying to listen to the music and its not 'commercially boradcasted' then u are stealing.. right?

[cctv2wayradio]

thats correct! but i guess many people here may "personally" agree that if your using for yourself is less likely to be a problem than copying it on or broadcasting it.

[syntse]

In Finland Clubs and Pubs need to pay some fee that they can have music in there. As for mobile DJs case there are separate DJ packages that need to be paid to be legally allowed to play music in event. The organizations that are gathering the fees are Teosto and Gramex in Finland.

[bamanda2]

can anyone explain how it works when a dj does a mix cd and sells it...how do they get permission to use the songs and then sell it and make money?? who gets what and how??

[necrobeef]

In France, the venues have to pay a tax to the SACEM who redistributes the funds to the producers and artists.

Similar to PRS in UK

[jasonyoudj]

interesting topics. next time jonathan plz make a topic with mixtape licensing.

[phatwalker]

Phonographic Performance Ltd (PPL) licenses 'sound recordings' which are carriers of original musical works (controlled by PRS). So, if you play CDs, tapes or records you may also need a PPL licence as well as one from PRS. PPL represents the record producers, and PRS the composers and music publishers. The venue is required to obtain these locences and should have displayed somewhere in the building. Usually a back office. etc. It is advisable you check a venue has them.

[DJGatecrasher]

So Phatwalker, in clarification, it's the venue responsibility to have the proper licences, and it's the DJs responsibility to make sure that venue he is playing at has these licences? I like the fact that Wedding Receptions are excluded. I wonder why :P ?

[phatwalker]

It is because a wedding reception like a birthay party is classed as private family occation.

[DudasMiska]

In Canada you are allowed to play any music you want, assuming you bought the original soundtrack.

[JJ12000]

Nice Hat!!!!!!!

[bert15579]

Well it seems that the public perfomance warning on records, cds is a ligitamate warning however as johnathon says it does make sense for djs to play the artists music to people members of the public for publicity, in a way the dj is doing some free advertising for the artist.

[DJGatecrasher]

On each CD/Vinyl there is a copyright notice about 'no public performance with permission' so I wanted to know if I needed a licence if I were to set myseng that he doesn't have a licence and in all the years of him DJing, he has never been asked for a 'licence'. Are other DJs here in the 'same boat'?

[DJGatecrasher]

I think this video is a response to an email that I self up as a mobile DJ? After watching the video, I didn't realise that pubs/clubs pay for a licence, but if you were setting up your own venue (as in Tutor's past videos), would I need a licence? Now, DJ Tutor did respond to me sayint to DJ Tutor yesterday? As we are in the era of copyright madness, I wanted to know legally where I stood with regards to playing other peoples music... cont

[briansredd]

If you are in the USA, Mobile DJs are EXEMPT from ASCAP/BMI Royalty licensing (thoes are the two big music publishing companys in the USA). The school of thought on this is: The hall you are playing at is responsible to pay, not you.

[briansredd]

I remember about 10 years (or more) ago, a club I was working at bought a satelite music service to play during the day. The fee for this music service included an ASCAP/BMI Publishing license.

[DJMattyf]

Ellaskins, you should start up your own clothing brand. With t-shirts and hats. I would certainly get one.

Please leave your comments.

[groovindj]

There is a PDF with info on the PPL (Phonograhic Perforance Limited) website. PPL and PRS are two different things, which the PDF explains.

[junglistni]

good topic, i always wondered as we wer playin other peopels records out, could we get busted cus of they copyright warnin. i always knew the artists wouldnt want that, but in theory i thot we could be. and i studied music business ahah

[groovindj]

On every CD and vinyl there is a statement that unauthorised public performance is prohibited. Therefore if you went and played a record in the middle of a field it would be illegal if there were other people around who heard it. If you did the same in a pub or a hall, chances are that they would have the relevant licenses for public performance (which would cover you playing music in there). This only applies if the music is on the original format, not copied from one media to another.

[Froasier]

The same rights apply regardless of format... copying a song doesn't magically give you the right to do whatever you want with it.

[groovindj]

I didn't say that it did. See my other comment, made a year ago, about the ProDub licence.

[Froasier]

Sorry I didn't realize the comment was so long ago, and your language was unclear. However the ProDub license is only required in the UK, it DOES apply to downloaded music as well as copies, and it does not allow you to burn CDs, or record your mixes. There is a similar law in Finland that interestingly lets you play copies of borrowed CDs as long as you have the license, but the license is like a lease you have to renew each year. All I can say is I'm glad I don't live in the UK or Finland.

[nikefreak01]

interesting theory, well i guess it aint a theory but good vid Jonathan!!

[DJbe9]

Just had to comment on your hat! Very nice! "DJ tutor" on it, smashing!!

[ellaskins]

to DJbe9, thanks dude!!

[DJMattyf]

PRS = Performing Right Society

[MishNMashed]

Yeah wot he said!