Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago (based on genetics). The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped with another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. The experts would disagree with you by at least 150,000 yrs but probable more. Everything I read puts the Neanderthal on its path by 500,000 yrs ago.
Interesting about the ideas on whether neaderthals had language. I would assume that if they had the gene for it, they probably did. And if they couldn't make certain sounds, why would that even be necessary? What about click languages that still exist today? Other languages depend on high or low tone to impart an entirely different meaning to a word.
It just boggles my mind to know that I AM descended of these people. The history of these people is carried in everyones' blood. It's truly a beautiful thought.
Since this has turned into a god or no god discussion, let me just say that everybody believes in "something". Some people believe in their good looks, some in their intellect, some their money, some in building themselves up by putting other people down. Some even go so far in spending all their energy "not believing in god" when the essence of God is love. I will choose free will. I choose to understand science and to love and help my neighbor. Its really that simple. Why all this hate? Evolve
It seems many Christians who will not accept evolution are interpreting the bible literally and not recognizing allegorical truths.
We know Adam and Eve were originally in Paradise, which is a spiritual realm, not somewhere on Earth. So we must accept then that Adam and Eve were the spiritual nature of every individual, rather than a physical man and woman.
btw, just a quick joke.. I go to a Baptist University.. The other day I said I was interested in the dialogue about evolution.. One guy then says, "If evolution had happened it would still be happening"... I think you can see what he was going for there.. Another girl (a very hot one) later tells me " O I have some fantastic magazine articles for me to give you... They basically tell about how no scientists really believe in evolution anymore because something about it makes it impossible.." ha
@SHIBBYiPANDA oh come on not again, maybe petition youtube to help cut back on the creationalist vs "everything that looks like a documentary" spam the comments this isnt funny anymore
@echafaud hahaha o ok good, ya I don't think there's a better source of humor than this whole creationism thing.. Some girl told me the other day, at my Baptist university I attend, that Darwin renounced the theory of evolution and became a Christian before he died... LOL!!!! I called bs on that one cuz I'd already heard it like 3 other times and done research on it but she still wouldn't believe me!!!!!! She claimed she studied "the articles" about it at her private Christian high school!!! LOL
@SHIBBYiPANDA its funny that creationists nitpick at evolution and say its a hoax (A very expensive one I assume that the government wouldn't waste billions on) but never get further proving "adam and eve" their proof is, one book, one voice. unchangable, unrelyable. creationists are funny, Adam and eve are Blond/Redhead/Brunette - when life started in africa, and that already contradicts itself, black people aren't white are they?
There is some truth about that story of Darwin abandoning his Theory of Evolution.It seems that he died tormented by doubts and in his latter editions of The Origin of Species he was faltering and patching up. Physicists of the time calculated a too small age of earth and the sun to allow the gradual action of natural selection to do the trick. It was until early XX century when radioactivity showed the real earth age, and until the 1940s when Genetics reconciled with Natural Selection.
@powerdriller10 hmmm thats interesting.. That's not alll these people said though.. A lot of people have stories about how Charles Darwin sang christian hymns with his entire household during the last years of his life and renounced evolution to some lady evangelist.. I looked at some of the evidence and it looked like it was a pack of lies to me. But that's way different from what you just said.. I would question evolution too if the age of the Earth was just a few million or something
Trying to convince religious morons about Science findings and methods is pointless, but we have to enter into the quarrel, because there are many people listening that do not know the facts and that can become prey of the ignorance and stupidity of the superstitious.
These retards distort facts. One thing is that Darwin had some doubts, and another that he recanted and abjured. Darwin knew that solid evidence supported his theory, but there were some bothering unknowns.
Alfred Russel Wallace, the naturalist that is credited together with Darwin for the Theory of Evolution, also later faltered about the original manuscript that he published on the matter. He fell into spiritualism and silly superstitions like Phrenology. While Darwin wrongly added Lamarckist explanations to the Theory, Wallace added Divine intervention in three crucial moments of Evolution: The first cell, the first neuron and the first human.
@SHIBBYiPANDA Type "translocation human and chimp" into google. You'll get a whole lot of information about the similarities between humans and chimps. Humans separated from chimps about 4-6 mya, but only 400,000 to 600,000 years ago from Neanderthal. These films assume a basic understanding. Educate yourself. Also, Presbyterian and the United Methodist believe science is science and religion is religion. Those two denominations believe the Bible must be interpreted. Get away from the Baptist.
@duckmanjoel Neanderthals didn't exist 500,000 years ago. They have been around for maybe 200,000 years. They evolved from an earlier species, either homo heidelbergensis or homo erectus, as did cro-magnon. Cro-magnon man and neanderthals have the same common ancestor, we are not directly descended from neanderthal man.
@8698gilNeanderthals and Cro-Magnon shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago (based on genetics). The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped with another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. The experts would disagree with you by at least 150,000 yrs but probable more. Everything I read puts the Neanderthal on its path by 500,000 yrs ago.
@8698gil Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago (based on genetics). The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped with another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. The experts would disagree with you by at least 150,000 yrs but probable more. Everything I read puts the Neanderthal on its path by 500,000 yrs ago.
@SHIBBYiPANDA we are still evolving not long ago 100% of humanity believed in some form of god now its just fucking idiots like you ,the rest of us are evolving
@simpleearthling well.. How evolved of you. I don't even believe in any gods and if you had above a 5th grade reading level you would've picked up that never in there did I say I did and, because I'm making fun of a baptist, I probably don't. Hope you're having fun patting your ego on the pack looking at evolution videos thinking you're so much smarter than anyone religious who are, biologically, just like you. Troll fucking pussy fucktard.
@SHIBBYiPANDA I'm curious. Do Baptist Universities have biology courses? I dread to see what kind of lectures they offer....given that evolution is the unifying theme of biology.
@PrimitiveByNature how did we get neanderthal dna?? I looked briefly for a short article about how we came about securing that but I couldn't get something specific.. Do you know?? A creationist would just as soon say that scientists are mistaken and that what we have presented as "neanderthal dna" is just manmade rubbish.. How can we know the methods and mechanisms used to acquire this prehistoric dna are legitimate??
@SHIBBYiPANDA Well I could go into great detail about how DNA is passed down but I assume you already know how if you're in university. lol Seriously though DNA testing has come a long ways and to say there is some kind of conspiracy going on that involves thousands of scientists is pretty rediculous. I can't explain the entire process here but if you google it you'll see how they got the DNA. I would say most scientist believe in evolution, even the vatican agrees.
If they both had the gene for speech, and they separated half a million years ago, if it were a single shared mutation, could that mean speech was able to be used by their common ancestor H. Heidelbergenis?
Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago (based on genetics). The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped with another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. The experts would disagree with you by at least 150,000 yrs but probable more. Everything I read puts the Neanderthal on its path by 500,000 yrs ago.
duckmanjoel 1 month ago
Interesting about the ideas on whether neaderthals had language. I would assume that if they had the gene for it, they probably did. And if they couldn't make certain sounds, why would that even be necessary? What about click languages that still exist today? Other languages depend on high or low tone to impart an entirely different meaning to a word.
8698gil 1 month ago
genetically speaking are we all the same?
Please answer.
mrjeovanni45 2 months ago
It just boggles my mind to know that I AM descended of these people. The history of these people is carried in everyones' blood. It's truly a beautiful thought.
BIytheisGreat 3 months ago 3
Since this has turned into a god or no god discussion, let me just say that everybody believes in "something". Some people believe in their good looks, some in their intellect, some their money, some in building themselves up by putting other people down. Some even go so far in spending all their energy "not believing in god" when the essence of God is love. I will choose free will. I choose to understand science and to love and help my neighbor. Its really that simple. Why all this hate? Evolve
duckmanjoel 5 months ago
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It seems many Christians who will not accept evolution are interpreting the bible literally and not recognizing allegorical truths.
We know Adam and Eve were originally in Paradise, which is a spiritual realm, not somewhere on Earth. So we must accept then that Adam and Eve were the spiritual nature of every individual, rather than a physical man and woman.
davitodude 9 months ago
btw, just a quick joke.. I go to a Baptist University.. The other day I said I was interested in the dialogue about evolution.. One guy then says, "If evolution had happened it would still be happening"... I think you can see what he was going for there.. Another girl (a very hot one) later tells me " O I have some fantastic magazine articles for me to give you... They basically tell about how no scientists really believe in evolution anymore because something about it makes it impossible.." ha
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago 10
@SHIBBYiPANDA I think it's more likely that your friends and their magazines have an agenda and we all know what that is.
PrimitiveByNature 1 year ago 10
@SHIBBYiPANDA oh come on not again, maybe petition youtube to help cut back on the creationalist vs "everything that looks like a documentary" spam the comments this isnt funny anymore
echafaud 11 months ago
@echafaud lol srry, I was just sharing that funny story
SHIBBYiPANDA 11 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA lol I don't mean you they should be banned! We on the other hand have the full right to mock them ofcourse
echafaud 11 months ago
@echafaud hahaha o ok good, ya I don't think there's a better source of humor than this whole creationism thing.. Some girl told me the other day, at my Baptist university I attend, that Darwin renounced the theory of evolution and became a Christian before he died... LOL!!!! I called bs on that one cuz I'd already heard it like 3 other times and done research on it but she still wouldn't believe me!!!!!! She claimed she studied "the articles" about it at her private Christian high school!!! LOL
SHIBBYiPANDA 11 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA its funny that creationists nitpick at evolution and say its a hoax (A very expensive one I assume that the government wouldn't waste billions on) but never get further proving "adam and eve" their proof is, one book, one voice. unchangable, unrelyable. creationists are funny, Adam and eve are Blond/Redhead/Brunette - when life started in africa, and that already contradicts itself, black people aren't white are they?
hotwhire 10 months ago
@SHIBB
There is some truth about that story of Darwin abandoning his Theory of Evolution.It seems that he died tormented by doubts and in his latter editions of The Origin of Species he was faltering and patching up. Physicists of the time calculated a too small age of earth and the sun to allow the gradual action of natural selection to do the trick. It was until early XX century when radioactivity showed the real earth age, and until the 1940s when Genetics reconciled with Natural Selection.
powerdriller10 6 months ago
@powerdriller10 hmmm thats interesting.. That's not alll these people said though.. A lot of people have stories about how Charles Darwin sang christian hymns with his entire household during the last years of his life and renounced evolution to some lady evangelist.. I looked at some of the evidence and it looked like it was a pack of lies to me. But that's way different from what you just said.. I would question evolution too if the age of the Earth was just a few million or something
SHIBBYiPANDA 6 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA
Trying to convince religious morons about Science findings and methods is pointless, but we have to enter into the quarrel, because there are many people listening that do not know the facts and that can become prey of the ignorance and stupidity of the superstitious.
These retards distort facts. One thing is that Darwin had some doubts, and another that he recanted and abjured. Darwin knew that solid evidence supported his theory, but there were some bothering unknowns.
powerdriller10 6 months ago
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Alfred Russel Wallace, the naturalist that is credited together with Darwin for the Theory of Evolution, also later faltered about the original manuscript that he published on the matter. He fell into spiritualism and silly superstitions like Phrenology. While Darwin wrongly added Lamarckist explanations to the Theory, Wallace added Divine intervention in three crucial moments of Evolution: The first cell, the first neuron and the first human.
powerdriller10 6 months ago
@powerdriller10 haha interesting..
SHIBBYiPANDA 6 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA lol does that automatically prove creation? nah, absurdity.
hotwhire 10 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA Type "translocation human and chimp" into google. You'll get a whole lot of information about the similarities between humans and chimps. Humans separated from chimps about 4-6 mya, but only 400,000 to 600,000 years ago from Neanderthal. These films assume a basic understanding. Educate yourself. Also, Presbyterian and the United Methodist believe science is science and religion is religion. Those two denominations believe the Bible must be interpreted. Get away from the Baptist.
duckmanjoel 5 months ago
@duckmanjoel Neanderthals didn't exist 500,000 years ago. They have been around for maybe 200,000 years. They evolved from an earlier species, either homo heidelbergensis or homo erectus, as did cro-magnon. Cro-magnon man and neanderthals have the same common ancestor, we are not directly descended from neanderthal man.
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@8698gilNeanderthals and Cro-Magnon shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago (based on genetics). The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped with another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. The experts would disagree with you by at least 150,000 yrs but probable more. Everything I read puts the Neanderthal on its path by 500,000 yrs ago.
duckmanjoel 1 month ago
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@8698gil Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon shared a common ancestor about 500,000 years ago (based on genetics). The first proto-Neanderthal traits appeared in Europe as early as 600,000–350,000 years ago. Proto-Neanderthal traits are occasionally grouped with another phenetic 'species', Homo heidelbergensis, or a migrant form, Homo rhodesiensis. The experts would disagree with you by at least 150,000 yrs but probable more. Everything I read puts the Neanderthal on its path by 500,000 yrs ago.
duckmanjoel 1 month ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA we are still evolving not long ago 100% of humanity believed in some form of god now its just fucking idiots like you ,the rest of us are evolving
simpleearthling 5 months ago in playlist Clash of the Cavemen
@simpleearthling well.. How evolved of you. I don't even believe in any gods and if you had above a 5th grade reading level you would've picked up that never in there did I say I did and, because I'm making fun of a baptist, I probably don't. Hope you're having fun patting your ego on the pack looking at evolution videos thinking you're so much smarter than anyone religious who are, biologically, just like you. Troll fucking pussy fucktard.
SHIBBYiPANDA 5 months ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA I'm curious. Do Baptist Universities have biology courses? I dread to see what kind of lectures they offer....given that evolution is the unifying theme of biology.
TheYipedo 3 weeks ago
how can we know these weren't just a race of humans that died out???
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA because DNA says they weren't.
PrimitiveByNature 1 year ago 3
@PrimitiveByNature how did we get neanderthal dna?? I looked briefly for a short article about how we came about securing that but I couldn't get something specific.. Do you know?? A creationist would just as soon say that scientists are mistaken and that what we have presented as "neanderthal dna" is just manmade rubbish.. How can we know the methods and mechanisms used to acquire this prehistoric dna are legitimate??
SHIBBYiPANDA 1 year ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA Well I could go into great detail about how DNA is passed down but I assume you already know how if you're in university. lol Seriously though DNA testing has come a long ways and to say there is some kind of conspiracy going on that involves thousands of scientists is pretty rediculous. I can't explain the entire process here but if you google it you'll see how they got the DNA. I would say most scientist believe in evolution, even the vatican agrees.
PrimitiveByNature 1 year ago
@SHIBBYiPANDA Christian elitists seem to find their dated study as flawless. a truly flat world we live on eh?
hotwhire 10 months ago
@hotwhire what???? I'm not Christian or creationist
SHIBBYiPANDA 10 months ago
Cro Magnon one grunt=yes, two grunts=no
Neanderthal, scratch crouch=tonight baby!
Barbarian216 1 year ago
If they both had the gene for speech, and they separated half a million years ago, if it were a single shared mutation, could that mean speech was able to be used by their common ancestor H. Heidelbergenis?
satanicwatermelon 1 year ago